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Re: WALKER & SHINGLER in the Black Country

ladylinda54 — 2012-09-22 15:06:00Z

I know this is an old post but....
John Thomas Shingler died April 23 1945,previously lived at 154 Spon Lane,West Bromwich.
Probate granted to Thomas Brookes,bricklayer and Albert Walker,moulder, in June 1945.
Effects of £168.8s.2d.

Re: Family Research - NOCK / WILLETTS / LOWE / SHAKESPEARE / NEWTON ived and worked in the Black Country

nicolabeverley — 2011-12-31 17:42:36Z

This is my shakespeare linehttp://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/family-tree/bcconnectio.... I did start tracing the family tree just to see if we were related,but now he doesnt seem important now, as i feel i have found a whole new family,My grandad died before i was born,& his father died when he was 3 yrs old so nobody knew anything about them.

Re: Family Research - NOCK / WILLETTS / LOWE / SHAKESPEARE / NEWTON ived and worked in the Black Country

mi2early — 2011-12-29 14:17:09Z

There are 149 posts on the SHAKESPEARE message board.

Re: Family Research - NOCK / WILLETTS / LOWE / SHAKESPEARE / NEWTON ived and worked in the Black Country

familybee — 2011-12-29 00:03:51Z

Finally! Someone has noted a Shakespeare in their family!
Do you happen to know if your line goes back to THE William Shakespeare born 1564? I know that my line goes back to him via the Arden, Webb, Stokes and other families. Is anyone else reading this tracking his line?
Thanks,
Kay

Re: Family Research - NOCK / WILLETTS / LOWE / SHAKESPEARE / NEWTON ived and worked in the Black Country

nicolabeverley — 2011-11-25 21:42:42Z

My great great Aunt is jane eliza shakespeare,who married john edward nock,& ended up in new jersey usa.Would love to hear from you

Re: Thomas BULLAS - strikes pre 1900 in the black country

flower1101 — 2011-09-21 15:42:59Z

Another quick thought.... if you search for 'Black Country nail making' on an internet search engine it should come up with plenty of information about the industry - I recall an informative site from Sedgley, and local history sites for Cradley Heath may also be useful - Cradley is next door to Netherton, and is famous for chain making in particular. I seem to remember reading that many nail makers went into the chain making industry, so hopefully there may be some useful information for you there somewhere!

Best Wishes.

Re: Thomas BULLAS - strikes pre 1900 in the black country

DFanshawe — 2011-09-21 15:04:54Z

Many thanks for the information I will be looking up the websites.
Regards Dena Fanshawe

Re: Thomas BULLAS - strikes pre 1900 in the black country

flower1101 — 2011-09-21 13:52:43Z

Hi, nail making and mining were two major industries in Dudley (particularly in Netherton, within Dudley Borough) during the 1800s. There were apparently Nail Makers strikes around the 1840s and 1850s, I think due to increased mechanisation and the subsequent loss of jobs. It makes sense that your Grandfather would have been employed in mining, being one of the other major industries in the area, and as (I think!) there would have been few nail making jobs left in Dudley by 1900. Maybe mining in Chesterfield was similar to mining in Dudley! I'd suggest searching for 'Netherton, West Midlands' in good old Wikipedia, and under 'industry' it should give you a very brief outline of when the strikes were etc. I think it also says that the last nails to be made by hand in the area were for horse-shoes.

I hope this helps, good luck with your research.

Re: Thomas BULLAS - strikes pre 1900 in the black country

alberta24 — 2011-09-09 12:48:31Z

1891 St. James ~Terrace ,Dudley
Thomas Bullas age 27 coal miner
Emma age 28
Eliza 5
Walter 4
Alice 2.

1881 with parents ~James and Susannah in Dudley occupation Horse nail maker.

Re: Thomas BULLAS - strikes pre 1900 in the black country

DFanshawe — 2011-09-09 07:01:45Z

Thank you for your reply.
I have the census s. But would love to know more about the strike/s that bought him and his family to Chesterfield.
So can assume that it was a Miner's Stike!

Thomas BULLAS - strikes pre 1900 in the black country

DFanshawe — 2011-08-22 12:23:22Z

My Grandfather Thomas Bullas B. 1863 and married to Emma Bowman, up rooted his entire family and moved them from Dudley in 1900 to Chesterfield following a strike (or strikes) He was a miner in Chesterfield so could have been miners strike(s) He came form a long line of 'Nail Makers'.

I would love to know more about their life before they came to Chesterfield and from anyone who is descendents of his siblings.
Can anyone tell me about the strike (s)?

Re: WALKER & SHINGLER in the Black Country

crusoe123 — 2011-07-17 18:28:55Z

Your message is now almost a year old, so my first question is have you fund the information, or are you still looking?
If you re still looking, then I think you have some information incorrect. No-one can Give their name to someone else by deed poll. A person can change their name by deed poll, or if he is a child, the name may (in certain circumstances) have been changed by deed poll,by a parent, but this would have to be registered and it would have appeared in the London Gazette at the time. If you know the name he was registered in, at birth, and the name he was given by deed poll, it might be possible to trace it. There is no death registered in England for anyone named Thomas Shingler.

Re: Family Research - NOCK / WILLETTS / LOWE / SHAKESPEARE / NEWTON ived and worked in the Black Country

jenny30152 — 2011-06-22 21:28:08Z

Hi my name is Jennifer and my grandad came from Dudley Wolverhampton and is name was George Alfred Richard Lowe he left there to get work in Stockton-on-Tees and that is where he met my grandmother Matilda Newbold if you have any info i would be glad to hear from you regards Jenny

Re: Family Research - NOCK / WILLETTS / LOWE / SHAKESPEARE / NEWTON ived and worked in the Black Country

warspen — 2011-04-12 19:30:15Z

think this is your elah nock

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcc...

this site will able to help you as they have a black country section

http://www.genealogyforum.co.uk/forum/index.php

Re: STROYDE, Dudley, CLEMPSON,

borobabs — 2011-03-17 22:54:24Z

Hiya your Richard's father John Stride was my was my James Stroyds younger brother ,,

Re: Family Research - NOCK / WILLETTS / LOWE / SHAKESPEARE / NEWTON ived and worked in the Black Country

jenny30152 — 2011-03-14 16:32:09Z

Hi i am researching my family tree names who are Lowe, Swales,Newbold,Hill,Kirgon.My grandfather George Alfred Richard Lowe who lived in Dudley Wolverhampton they had something to do with the Ring o Bells pub in Dudley Wolverhampton. My grandfather left there to come to live and work in Stockton - on- Tees where he met and married my grandmother Matilda Newbold. If anyone has any information i would glady appreciate it thank you regards Jenny

Re: Family Research - NOCK / WILLETTS / LOWE / SHAKESPEARE / NEWTON

GeneAngel1 — 2011-02-11 18:48:20Z

Ashley,

If you are related in some way to Elah, then welcome to the rather large family of NOCK.......

If you wish to exchange info please let me know though a post and we can exchange emails and data

Geneangel

Re: Family Research - NOCK / WILLETTS / LOWE / SHAKESPEARE / NEWTON

ashleycollins7 — 2011-02-11 01:35:50Z

I believe that I may be the great grand daughter of Elah (Nock) Lowe whom is one of the people you are speaking of in your post. She came over at age 11 through Ellis Island. I think they are the same person since you mention samuel lowe dying in "pequannack" nj. It is Pequannock NJ and that is also where my family is from.

Re: SYLVESTER -Boatmen of the Black Country

Bootsy0060 — 2010-09-05 19:27:54Z

Hi
What information do you have on marriage of Emily including witnesses.Regards John

WALKER & SHINGLER in the Black Country

dom_dale2000 — 2010-08-29 15:30:33Z

Hello, i am looking for anyone in the Black Country who is named Shingler.
My reason for this search is that in 1940 a gentleman by the name of THOMAS SHINGLER gave his surname of Shingler to my great Uncle through DEED POLL.
I am unaware of any marriage having taken place between Thomas Shingler and my great grandmother Harriet Walker but it would be interesting to try and find out why this took place.
All the information that i have is Thomas Shingler and Harriet Walker lived together, we believe in Spon Lane, West Bromwich in 1940 untill his death, but this is not confirmed.
If anyone has any info please feel free to get in touch.
Heather Dale

Re: VINCENT Family in the black country

dom_dale2000 — 2010-08-28 15:11:54Z

Hello my name is Heather Dale, i am also looking for family in the Black Country with the surname Vincent.
My grandmother on my mothers side was called Elizabeth Vincent(1930) until she married my grandfather Arthur Fisher(1921) in 1949.
If this info matches any info in your tree please get in touch. Heather

Re: Boatmen of the Black Country

Glentrammon — 2010-07-13 21:38:21Z

I have been looking at the James family of Walsal that include, Charles James (1828) and his son Samuel (1856)
Have you mad any progress on this family?
Regards - Pete

SYLVESTER -Boatmen of the Black Country

jacksmelad — 2010-04-30 12:10:31Z

Hi,I was looking leads on the surname Sylvester.My great x2 grandmother Emily was born in Deepfield/Bilston abt 1866 before moving to Stoke-on-Trent and marrying Richard Guy.
Her father was Thomas Sylvester but have no info as yet about him.
My late grandfather said the Sylvesters were Boatmen.So presume I'm looking for Sylvester Boatmen in the Bilston area.Just wondered if anyone knew anymore or could point me in the right direction
regards,Steve

Re: Family Research - NOCK / WILLETTS / LOWE / SHAKESPEARE / NEWTON ived and worked in the Black Country

jenny30152 — 2010-03-15 21:43:03Z

Hi i am researching the family Lowe my grandad was called George Alfred Richard Lowe and he came from Dudley, his dad ran the Ring o Bells pub in Dudley. He came to Stockton-on-Tees to find work and that is where he met my gran Matilda Newbold. He was born about 1886 and his fathers name was Alfres Richard Lowe that is all i know about him dont know if this is any use to you regards Jenny

Re: Family Research - NOCK / WILLETTS / LOWE / SHAKESPEARE / NEWTON ived and worked in the Black Country

smlawrence1 — 2010-03-04 00:04:28Z

Hello :)
im new to all this only started tracing my family etc today :).
my nans names newton. we live in wolverhampton xx

Re: JACKSON & PARKES families from the Black Country

srjacx — 2009-12-16 14:12:49Z

I can't find a Joseph Jackson among my data who is a candidate. BUT I do fnd an interesting marriage
Parents:
Father: John Jackson father
son Joseph marries
Spouse: Mary Ann Dickenson Family
Marriage: 16 SEP 1855 Bilston, Stafford, England
This all on the family search site of the Mormon people.
Then I find in Worcstershire this set of siblings of a Joseph J and Mary
68. Thomas JACKSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 1859 Langley, Oldbury, Worcester, England

69. Edward JACKSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 1861 Langley, Oldbury, Worcester, England

70. Joseph JACKSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 1866 Langley, Oldbury, Worcester, England

71. ROBERT JACKSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 1854 Langley, Oldbury, Worcester, England

72. Sarah JACKSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 1855 Langley, Oldbury, Worcester, England

and I find these on the 1881 census
Joseph JACKSON Head M Male 56 Langley, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Mary JACKSON Wife M Female 50 Bilston, Stafford, England
Thomas JACKSON Son U Male 22 Langley, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Edward JACKSON Son U Male 20 Langley, Worcester, England (Bricklayer)
Rebecca JACKSON Daur U Female 16 Langley, Worcester, England
Joseph JACKSON Son U Male 15 Langley, Worcester, England Bricklayers Labourer
Annie JACKSON Daur U Female 11 Langley, Worcester, England
Clement JACKSON Son U Male 9 Langley, Worcester, England
Thomas JACKSON Father W Male 95 Langley, Worcester, England Formerly Bricklayer
Here son Joseph born about 1856

Maybe the right family..maybe not.

Re: JACKSON & PARKES families from the Black Country

keithattwell80 — 2009-12-15 22:02:10Z

you are an absolute diamond. Thanks for that.

I have been trying to find my grandfathers family for 4 years and in the space of a month a couple of people including your kindself come forward with this information. Dennis Wood, the Proffessor of French Literature at Birmingham University was the other. He has connexions to the Farrier family that my grandfathers sister Matilda married into.

Dennis's family has Oldbury Jacksons in it. He's a nice chap and will give you the password I expect
http://dennis47.tribalpages.com/

Thanks again

Keith

Re: JACKSON & PARKES families from the Black Country

keithattwell80 — 2009-12-15 13:24:38Z

Hi again

bit more info, haven't had a lot of time to look, Xmas and all that

Josephs parents were Joseph Jackson c1825 Langley Worcestershire and Mary (Unknown) c1831 born Bilston,Staffordshire.

best wishes

Keith

Re: JACKSON & PARKES families from the Black Country

srjacx — 2009-11-26 16:06:49Z

Hi
I cannot find a link although I do have several Joseph Jacksons among my ancestors
Do you know who were the parents of Joseph Jackson a/o Eliza Knowles?
I strongly suspect we have a common black country ancestor but so far too elusive

Re: JACKSON & PARKES families from the Black Country

keithattwell80 — 2009-11-24 13:12:38Z

Hi

My grandfather was Joseph Jackson born 18/02/1893 in Park Lane, Oldbury, Worcestershire (then) England. He survived the Somme and Ypres, captured, escaped to Switzerland and married my grandmother Marthe Buser in 2 ceremonies in Lausanne and Bern on the 1st/3rd August 1918. Lucky me. His father was Joseph Jackson also and his mother Eliza Jane Elizabeth Knowles.Believe he had 2 sisters Emily and Matilda and a brother Henry. Any links?

Best wishes

Keith
keith.attwell@blueyonder.co.uk

Re: JACKSON & PARKES families from the Black Country

srjacx — 2009-11-04 00:05:22Z

looking forward to hearing from you
B Jackson aka stafka

Re: JACKSON & PARKES families from the Black Country

AsMadasanHatter — 2009-11-03 20:58:35Z

The woodall connection sounds v familiar will get back to you when I get my laptop back as my tree is on it x

Re: Wm. MALPASS of Dudley, Black Country

black_widow2005uk — 2009-10-12 13:51:14Z

Have you found them in any census at all? I've just had a quick look and cant find them. I also looked for william's birth on familysearch.org and there wasnt a single Malpass born in clay hills on that site, which is usually helpful.

I did find a William Malpass born in 1813 in Bitterley, Shropshire, he had a brother called John, born the same place. They also had many siblings. There parents were Benjamin and Elizabeth.

Hope this is some help.

Emma.

Re: Wm. MALPASS of Dudley, Black Country

vhdl15464 — 2009-10-12 09:26:42Z

Could Clay Hills be CLEE Hills? I have found this misinterpretation on the record of one of my family. Perhaps it was the way that the enumerator heard the word.

Velda

Re: JACKSON & PARKES families from the Black Country

stafka — 2009-09-21 00:35:35Z

Great to hear from you!!!
My ancestor Ellen Whale married Isaiah Jackson in Tipton in 1845. Her parents were William Whale and Elizabeth Stringer. I have much more on their ancestors and their descendants.
Their name Whale often appeared as Wheale
.......................................................
I have John Woodall and Marey? marrying 1661. Among their off spring was a son John Jr who marries Mary Hollis. Then son Joseph married Mary Hadley 1716 Dudley. I have extensive data on their line down to a marriage of their descendant Isaiah Jackson as above
............................................................
My Whitehouses are more recent with Joseph Whitehouse marrying Bertha Owen ..1906.....my grandmother's( Mary Owen) sister
I also have another situation where a Whitehouse married an Allen girl in the 1950's.Her grandmother mother was also a Dudley Owen.
I can unravel the Whitehouses!
..........................................................
I have Jackson from Dudley on BOTH sides of my Dudley ancestry
............................................................The surname Stringer also appears frequently
Perhaps we have a link with each other. Email me at srjacx@yahoo.ca and I will hopefully find common ancestors

Re: JACKSON & PARKES families from the Black Country

AsMadasanHatter — 2009-09-20 12:47:36Z

hi I have Whale, Woodall and Whitehouse of Dudley x

Re: Please can someone help solve a Black Country mystery?

AsMadasanHatter — 2009-09-20 12:35:54Z

SPon lane is but a stones throw away from Aston Manor a lot would have gone that way for work x

Re: Please can someone help solve a Black Country mystery?

warspen — 2009-06-04 21:26:01Z

sorry wrong link try this

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcc...

Re: Please can someone help solve a Black Country mystery?

warspen — 2009-06-04 21:16:15Z

is this your william george rose ?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcc...

Re: JACKSON & PARKES families from the Black Country

christylovesdogs — 2009-02-26 14:51:56Z

Hi
My name is christy Jones, I live in the United states. My mother is a parkes and I have woodall' s in my family. I am also a jones. I wolud like for you to e-mail me at usabeautfulgirl@yahoo.com if you have any queations.

Re: Please can someone help solve a mystery?

mallosa — 2009-01-10 10:04:35Z

Forgot to say - why not click on 'contact' & ask if they have any information about Jimmy Rose?

Re: Please can someone help solve a mystery?

mallosa — 2009-01-10 09:59:38Z

Hi Angie,you've pobably seen this on the attached link:

Jim Rose(West Bromwich) total bouts 48 active 1920s to 1930s

http://www.prewarboxing.co.uk/boxer%20lists/R%20list.htm

Re: Help researching Genealogy in the Black Country

lindaggeorge — 2009-01-07 16:39:30Z

As an original member of RRO, I was sad to see it go but was pleased to also be an original member of Black Country Gob. Which apart from being able to help with Black Country History Family Research, also has forums covering Black Country Trades and Local History. The Black Country Gob Gallery is a marvellous collection of images of BlackCountry Folk and Buildings including many no longer standing.

Well known Black Country names, like Tibbetts, Hadley, Willetts, Rose, Parkes and many more besides can be found there.

Re: Help researching Genealogy in the Black Country

58_kdr — 2009-01-07 16:08:37Z

Black Country Connections (http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/) is indeed a team effort with a lot of people adding information - that is the whole point of it really.

Naturally this can lead to errors but we have a clear policy on this matter. If anyone disagrees with some of the information on the site then they are welcome to contact the administrators and we will look into the matter.

Usually what we do is throw the topic open for discussion on http://www.genealogyforum.co.uk/forum/ and/or check the original data at the archives.

It works a little like Wikipedia - we rely on people pointing out the mistakes so they can be fixed but do not see our site as 100% reliable. The up-side of having so many contributors is that although there may be more errors entered there are also more people to spot them :-)

Occasionally there may be cases where there are two interpretations based on the same inconclusive data. When that happens we tend to let the first post stand and add a note pointing out the second possibility.

So, if you have spotted any mistakes please let us know so that we can look into them. We now have over 16000 entries on the site and I would them all to be correct if possible.

Kate (one of the administrators of Black Country Connections)

Re: Help researching Genealogy in the Black Country

brielec — 2009-01-07 12:18:35Z

I found a number of inaccuracies in that bc Tribal Pages. Seems to me it's a case of quantity, not quality, with information being entered by various people.

If anyone is thinking of taking information from there, I would recommend they check it all out at the archives before using it. As you should when using all information taken from other people's research.

Re: Help researching Genealogy in the Black Country

warspen — 2009-01-06 19:58:59Z

mine you ive come across this and it seem good

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/

and they seem to get on this site from what ive been told

http://www.genealogyforum.co.uk

Re: Family Research - NOCK / WILLETTS / LOWE / SHAKESPEARE / NEWTON

PeteWelsby — 2009-01-06 10:22:12Z

Searching for Nock I came across this topic myself albeit a little old now. The Rowley Regis site has since closed however it has been replaced by a forum for the whole Black Country region called Blackcountry Gob. Take a look here, it may help. http://www.blackcountrygob.com

Help researching Genealogy in the Black Country

PeteWelsby — 2009-01-04 19:24:26Z

If anyone is researching their family history in the Black Country Region then I would recommend taking a visit to BlackCountry Gob, the community forum for the Black Country.

Since the closure of Rowley Regis Online ( www.rowleyregis.com) Black Country Gob ( www.blackcountrygob.com) has taken it's place with most of the regular members from there moving over to BCG.

A vast amount of data is shortly to be uploaded to the site which may well help in your search.

Re: Family Research - NOCK / WILLETTS / LOWE / SHAKESPEARE / NEWTON ived and worked in the Black Country

warspen — 2008-11-28 22:18:43Z

hi gene angel have you seen this tree most of your relatives will proberly inter connect with it

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com

you can also catch use here

http://www.genealogyforum.co.uk

Re: Searching for Elmore, Reynolds, Bartram and Mobberley in Black Country @1900

2008-11-08 01:02:09Z

I am researching a family of Elmore's from Darlaston. My family are, William. b 1898. Darlaston, John Henry. b 1900.Darlaston. Both sons of John & Ann of Darlaston.