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Re: St Pancras Workhouse

Posted: 17 Dec 2012 6:31AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Moy
In case it is of interest to either of you, Im pasting in an extract from a Moy family history I wrote for my son in law. The people mentioned can be found in Ancestry public members tree.

"The earliest Moy ancestor whose life we can trace from birth is Charles Moy (1818-1905). His parents, Charles Moy and Martha Senior, were married at St Dunstan and All Saints Church in Stepney in April 1818, and Charles was born in September 1818. The baptism certificate shows his father’s occupation as ‘weaver’ but we have no other information about his parents, including where or when they were born. There have been Moys in London since around 1500, but many also moved in from Norfolk and Suffolk during the 18th century, so there is a need for further research on the Moy family before 1800.
The next time that the younger Charles shows up in the records is July 1836, when he married Mary Ann Elizabeth Hedge (1818-1891) at Paddington parish church , near the Edgware Road.

For some reason, Charles spelled his name ‘Moye’ on the marriage register, though it is shown as Moy in most other records. The witnesses were his wife’s parents Joseph and Harriet Hedge. All four signed their own names on the register – not always the case at that time.
We know a bit more about the older generation of Hedges: Joseph John Hedge (1790-1854) was born in the parish of St Marylebone, probably in the St Pancras workhouse. His father, also named Joseph John Hedge, and mother Sarah Ranger were aged about 20 at the time, and did not marry until a few days after the birth. Joseph John the younger became a whitesmith – that is, a tinplate worker - and married Harriet Pearce (1787- ) on 11 December 1809 at Paddington St James.
At the time of the 1841 census, Joseph and Harriet were living at Seymour Court, St Pancras; a near neighbour was Rebecca Moy whose relationship to Charles Moy is still unclear. By 1851 the Hedges were living at 15 Phillips Buildings, St Pancras; Joseph died in 1854.
Following their marriage in 1838, Charles and Mary Ann Elizabeth Moy do not appear in any of the early census records, but we know from the details they gave on their children’s baptism certificates that they stayed in the same area and that Charles worked as an upholsterer and mattress-maker. Their older children were Mary Anne Elizabeth, born in 1838 , Charles (1842) , Harriet (1844) and John (1845), who both died in infancy, and George (1847) .
There seems to have been a nine year gap after George until Charles William Moy was born on 26 September 1856. However, he was not baptised until almost three years later, on 21 July 1859, and his mother, now living at Drummond Crescent St Pancras, was the only parent named on the register. Because of this I had speculated that Charles senior might have died or gone to prison or that Mary Ann Elizabeth might have had an illegitimate child, especially as the 1861 Census shows Charles, aged 4, living at 26 Drummond Crescent alone with his widowed grandmother Harriet Hedge .
However, recent research has shown that the little boy’s parents were actually living next door at 25 Drummond Crescent with his older brother George, but that in this and other censuses they were recorded with the surname Ward.* It is not known why they chose to use an assumed name, especially as their correct name and addresses were recorded on their children’s baptism and marriage certificates. Both parents were present to witness Charles’ wedding in 1876 and they were still living at 25 Drummond Crescent when Mary Ann Elizabeth Moy died in January 1891; Charles was granted probate on her estate which was valued at £146 3s 10d.

Charles Moy Junior married Mary Angus (1857-1941) in July 1876 at St Pancras Parish Church. Their marriage certificate records that the younger Charles was a zinc worker. Zinc was used for soldering metalwork, and some zinc workers were employed in the building industry to solder metal guttering or water and gas pipework / plumbing.

Charles and Mary went on to have eight children over the next twenty years, from George Edward Moy (1877-1937) to the two youngest, Florrie and Alfred, born in 1894 and 1896 respectively. By that time George was in his teens and the family had moved to Walthamstow. In the 1891 Census they were living in 5 Lime Street, in 1901 at 14 Campbell Rd and in 1911, 24 Walpole Road. Charles was still a zincworker; he died in 1934, followed by Mary in 1941...

*Mary Anne Elizabeth Moy (1838-) married Henry Finigan 1838, later lived in Clerkenwell
Charles (12 May 1842- ) married Caroline Louisa Piper in 1860, Bethnal Green, later lived in St Pancras and then Hornsey.
George (14 April 1847- ) married Eliza 1865, with whom he had 7 children, still living in St Pancras in 1911.
Charles was recorded in this census as ‘William’ - he seems to have been known variously as Charles or William at different times of his life – while Harriet’s surname was mistakenly recorded by the census taker as ‘Edge’.
The 1861 Census records a ‘Charles Ward’ mattress-maker, wife Mary Ann and son George living next door at 25 Drummond Crescent. The birthdates and other details fitted the Moy family, so I checked back and found: 1841 Charles Ward upholsterer, living at Wellesley Street, St Pancras, Marylebone with wife Mary Ann + children Mary Ann age 3 and Joseph age 1. In 1851 Charles Ward, upholsterer is at 8, Anns Place, St Pancras, Marylebone (the same address as the Moy children’s baptism records) with wife Mary Ann and children: Joseph b 1840, Charles 1842, George 1847. Going forward from 1861, in 1871 they are still at 25 Drummond Crescent , wife or daughter ‘Marian’, son William b 1857 (ie Charles William) apprentice zinc worker, and granddaughter Alice Finigan (the daughter of their eldest daughter Mary Ann). In 1881, Charles is still there along with [wife’s name illegible] and [illegible forename] Moy Ward, a grandson aged 15, a zinc worker. In 1891, Charles Ward is still there, a widower living on own means, with a granddaughter Mary A Moy aged 15 b. "
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