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Re: Wines' Family in Somerset & some in St.Pancras,London

janEvans47 — 2009-11-09 00:53:52Z

Just a note about Wines family. Although I don't have any connection, I have been reading a couple of Somerset films recently, and I would advise anyone researching this name, to also take into account names transcribed as Vines, because the handwriting in the registers is easily mistaken V for W.
Yours in Genealogy,
Jan
in sunny QLD Australia

Re: Westcombe in Somerset

georgewestcombe — 2009-11-08 08:55:39Z

Sorry no one in Somerset but we are spread over quite a large area as a family. Unfortunately the ladies have all married and therefore changed their names. I live in Bishop's Waltham, just outside of Winchester. I have a distant cousin who is also involved in the history of the name. If you are interested let me know and I will persue it? Good luck in your search.
Regards, George Westcombe

Re: Menagerie / circus / showmen / Harp Inn Taunton

mikemorris5_1 — 2009-11-07 23:06:24Z

Hi, Dorothy.
Thank you for this - more confirmation of the showman link but still no forename!!
One of James’ sons-in-law was John “Manchester Jack” Gill, reputed to be England’s first lion-tamer.
All the Bromsgroves, descended from John & Esther, that I can connect with, were baptised, married and buried at St Mary Magdalene. Another family, headed by Henry and Sarah, were Octagon Chapel Weslayans, but I cannot connect them to John & Esther.

Re: Menagerie / circus / showmen / Harp Inn Taunton

mikemorris5_1 — 2009-11-07 23:05:55Z

In the parish registers, he is named John Manchester Gill.

“Manchester Jack of Wombwell’s Menagerie was the first lion tamer. In about 1835 he appeared before the public, sitting on the back of Nero, the lion, and opening Nero’s mouth.” (JL Middlemiss: Zoo on Wheels, 1987.) Poor old Nero was, by some accounts, rather elderly.

I have yet to find Gill or any of ‘my’ Bromsgroves in the 1841 census. I guess they were on the road. None of the inns associated with them later were in family hands at that time. In 1841 both of James’ brothers, John & William, were butchers in Taunton but none of James’ family were with them.

Mike

Wines' Family in Somerset & some in St.Pancras,London

JimDrummond10 — 2009-11-07 07:05:46Z

Hi Jan
Do you happen to have any information about the WINES' Family that lived in the South Petherton,Taunton area?

I am particulary anxious to make contact with any relatives of
William who married Hannah,John William who married Eliza,
and Elizabeth.
Any leads would be appreciated.
Regards James

Re: Douglas Granville Bowen Partridge - 1911 census look-up

chrisdoran1 — 2009-11-07 02:25:08Z

1896 Penge directories show Deputy Surgeon General Samuel Bowen Partridge at Thicket Lodge, 40 Thicket Road. The house, which was on the north corner of the junction with Anerley Park Road, has been demolished.

Coincidentally or not, of the half dozen other Partridges in the locality at the time, there is another Deputy Surgeon General, William Peyton Partridge, at Bella Vista, 10 Southend Road, Beckenham.

Re: Brimmell Marriage

Merice46 — 2009-11-06 05:59:30Z

Hi,
The 1851 census says Thomas and Ann born in Gloucestershire???Their daughter Rebecca was born in Bedminster.

Regards

Sandra

Re: Menagerie / circus / showmen / Harp Inn Taunton

mdmn07 — 2009-11-06 01:02:24Z

In the 1861 census, there is a John Gill, age 60, born in Salford, Lanc., married to Bessie, who is the Inn Keeper of the Phoenix Inn, in East Street, Taunton, St Mary Magdalen. He may have tamed a few cats in his younger years. LOL

They sound like an interesting bunch.

Dorothy Nagy

Re: Menagerie / circus / showmen / Harp Inn Taunton

mdmn07 — 2009-11-05 16:21:27Z

Hi, You may be able to get some information from the church where Mr Sewell was burued. Your Mr Bromsgrove may be interred there as well.

Found in a Google search:
In July 1829 Joseph Neal Sewell a blind giant from Lincolnshire was buried in St Mary Magdalen churchyard. During his life Sewell had made a living by being exhibited in public, at exhibitions and touring shows, but lately had made friends with a Taunton man called Mr Bromsgrove. He was reputedly staying with another friend, Mr Luxton, when he died and in accordance with his wishes he was buried in the local churchyard. Many people visited the huge and hence unusual grave on the North side of the tower.

Good luck in your search.
Dorothy Nagy

Brimmell Marriage

turnerronaldn — 2009-11-05 15:56:38Z

Can anyone help me with marriage information for Thomas Brimmell who married Ann ? about 1825. Both Ann and Thomas were born in Bedminster 1791 and 1781. They had a daughter Amelia born abt 1826 in Bedminster. Thanks.

Ron T

Re: N Knott 1776 Knotts Farm [Dinnington]

Ronbasford2 — 2009-11-05 13:48:50Z

Hi Christopher,
Thanks for your message.
This was 3 years ago,Sorry no notes or file kept.
I am not related.
Regards Ron of Romsey.

Re: N Knott 1776 Knotts Farm [Dinnington]

kcsthompson — 2009-11-05 11:43:53Z

Hi Ron,

I see that you are interested in Knott Farm, Dinnington,Somerset,England. I am descended from the Knott family that owned the farm at Dinnington and would be interested to know if you are descended from this family as I have a great deal of information about them.

Regards,

Christopher )England)

Re: Douglas Granville Bowen Partridge - 1911 census look-up

D_Mawle — 2009-11-03 15:52:03Z

Hi Celia,
Thank you very much for going the extra mile for me. I sometimes do the same thing when a person or family captures my attention. Since discovering this family about a week ago, I've made contact with a descendant on Genes Reunited who is my 3rd cousin once removed. His mother has done an extensive research on the family. Another Partridge and GR member who is descended from a branch which wasn't in India asked me if I knew anything about them. Now, thanks to you, I can tell him a bit and steer him towards the obit link you provided. Thanks again for finding the time to help. You're a dear! Kind regards, Dave

Re: Douglas Granville Bowen Partridge - 1911 census look-up

celiacm — 2009-11-03 12:10:46Z

Do you know about all the Indian links? In case not, as it is such an interesting family, I couldn't resist delving a bit further ...

The 1901 census (when Douglas, his brother Noel and mother Elizabeth were boarders at a house in Lordship Lane, Dulwich Common) also gives his birthplace as Gorakhpur, India. His father Godfrey was presumably still out in India then, as a directory lists G B Partridge as a resident of Gorakhpur and "persnl. asst. to agent and chf. engr., T. S. ry." in 1895.

The 1881 census has Godfrey as a student at the Crystal Place School of Engineering and living with his family in Penge. His father (Douglas's grandfather) was Samuel Bowen Partridge, retired Dep Surgeon General Bengal Army.

There is an obituary of Samuel Bowen PARTRIDGE here:
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/pdf_extract/1/1950/1296
and there must be a lot more information about the family elsewhere.

Re: MONTAGUE or MONTACUTE family from Montacute in Somerset

myfanwyhughes175 — 2009-11-02 22:08:35Z

Your Francis wasn't a Frederick by any chance? It's just a brother of my ancestor Mary Ann is called Frederick b.1859 in Montacute.

Also the name Lowe doesn't crop up anywhere in your research does it, as it appears my Montacute's changed their name to Lowe at some point.

MONTAGUE or MONTACUTE family from Montacute in Somerset

Tulip38 — 2009-11-02 22:07:00Z

I'm looking for information on the Montague or Montacute family from Montacute village in Somerset - England.
My Great-Grandmother was Lottie Alberta Montacute/Montague (b. 1883). She married Charles William Benjamin Ham in Lambeth/ London in 1902. She had four sisters and a brother - Maud Evelin (b. 1883), Flossie (b. 1885), Gladys Marjorie (b. 1890), Francis Leslie (b. 1894) and Gertrude Amy (b. 1896). Their parents where Francis Montacute/Montague (1859-1902) and Mary Sarah Wilson (b. 1856).
The family moved up to Lambeth/ London between 1891 and 1894.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Montacute family from Montacute in Somerset

myfanwyhughes175 — 2009-11-02 14:33:36Z

You don't happen to know the parents or siblings of Henry age 49 in 1861,a s I have a Walter Montacute age 45 in 1861, born in Odcombe Somerset. Do you think they could be brothers?

Menagerie / circus / showmen / Harp Inn Taunton

mikemorris5_1 — 2009-11-02 03:25:44Z

In his excellent “Book of Taunton” (1977), Robin Bush says, “At the Harp Inn, South Road, circus animals were given a home after their travelling days were over. The landlord, Bromsgrove, had been attendant [±1826-9] to the blind giant, Joseph Sewell, buried here [Taunton] in 1829.” (My additions in square brackets.)

Unfortunately, he gives neither Bromsgrove’s forename, nor the source of this information.

I think the Harp Inn was possibly also known as the Half Way House Inn and South Road became Shoreditch Road (not South Street).

I believe the Bromsgrove referred to was my gx3-grandfather, James (1799-1852), but it could have been a brother, or their father, James (dates unknown).

Can anyone help me confirm/expand this tale?

Re: MEAKER in Somerset

syljun — 2009-10-25 12:32:11Z

Any connection to Mary Meaker bap.1772, Stawell Somerset.
Married John Periam at Moorlinch Parish Church 1794? Regards,Syljun

Re: James Millard

alberta24 — 2009-10-24 17:44:01Z

On census Charlotte says born Kilmington Somerset.
1871 Six Wells ,Stourton,Wiltshire
Charles Davis age 33 ,b. Stourton, Wilts
Mary age 36 b. Kilmington
all children born Kilmington
William 15
Frederick 13
Mary 10
Martha 8
Charlotte 6
john 4
George 2

Re: James Millard

alberta24 — 2009-10-24 17:37:05Z

In 1901 they are still in horton Street
children at home are
Lila 15
Willie 14
Christopher 12
Reginald 10
Beatrice 9
Leonard 6
Dorothy 4
Muriel 2

Re: James Millard

alberta24 — 2009-10-24 17:33:52Z

1891 38 horton Street,Frome
James millard age 30 Wiredrawer
Charlotte age 26
Ellen age 7
Lila age 6
William age 4
Christopher age2
Reginald age 5 months

Re: William Carpenter

KerryWales — 2009-10-31 09:30:08Z

Maggie,
My name is Kerry Frater. I don't know if we have corresponded before.
William & Martha are my GT Gt Gt Grandparents (I believe).

I have no details on Martha's parentage (yet) but I believe that William is the son of William CARPENTER and Elizabeth COPLEY (or COBLEY).
Sarah MOSLEY has done some research which she has passed onto me that takes the CARPENTER line back to around 1600. I have yet to cross-reference the work which I always recommend (including my own work) just to get a second source.

I am descended through their son Charles and from him Francis, who was one of the siblings that migrated to South Wales.

You can email me directly on my email address kerry at myforefathers dot co dot uk.
I spell it out to help slow down mail robots picking up my address.

Kerry

Re: Dowling in Somerset

rdhann — 2009-10-28 08:41:22Z

Hi Susan.

Are you still interested in the Dowlings of Paulton? If so, please get in contact. I also have some info to share.
Rob,
Bristol, England.

Re: Coles, Snow

sjsnow1 — 2009-10-27 01:08:11Z

I have just linked Eliza Snow born 1858 to possibly Isaac Coles - marriage 1879 - 5b 737 (Oct-Dec Tiverton)

Details on my Eliza - born 1858 Cullompton
father - Peter Snow born 1826 Cullompton
mother - Elizabeth Vinnicombe born 1827 Cullompton.

Does this tally with what you have as there are no other Eliza marriages in this time period that would fit.

Re: Wines family

JimDrummond10 — 2009-10-30 11:32:38Z

Hello ??
I'm researching the Drummonds' and I can tell you a bit about them . Jane(1813-1905) arrived here in 1829 but I think from Scotland & not Ireland.Her Father was James(1784-1863. If you care to contact me by email and tell me your location I will be glad to tell what I have learned so far.
Kind regards, Jim Drummond,Perth,W..Australia
Jaydee9160@bigpond.com

Re: Wines family

JimDrummond10 — 2009-10-28 12:33:09Z

Hi Vivien
Many thanks for sending the info about the Wines'.It has enabled me to do some more research.We do have a Mormon church near us so I will call there.I am quite new to this family tree building and know little about computers!
However, I do find it very addictive and educational.I never realised I had so many relatives.
Can you tell me what is your connexion to the Wines Family?
Kind regards Jim Drummond jaydee9160@ bigpond.com

Re: The HATCH Family of Stone/Chapel Allerton - Further Info

douglasbrown_1 — 2009-11-01 06:20:37Z

I should have mentioned in my original post that William & Jane were married in Chapel Allerton on 23 July 1771 or 1772 (sources vary).

Douglas

The HATCH Family of Stone/Chapel Allerton

douglasbrown_1 — 2009-11-01 06:13:36Z

This is my first posting to this list as I have just started researching my 5th Great Grandparents, William Hatch (b abt 1750 Somerset) & Jane Tucker (b abt 1751 Somerset).

As far as I know they had 2 sons. William (b 18 November 1775 Somerset) & Richard (b abt 1777 and christened in Badgworth on 8 September 1777).

William Jnr moved to Whitburn, Co Durham and married Jane Nicholson in Bishopwearmouth on 12 June 1798. Information contained in the parish records for their children's christenings states that William came from Stone Allerton, Somerset.

I have no further information on Richard.

I'd really like to make contact with anyone else researching this family.

Douglas Brown,
Queanbeyan, Australia

William Carpenter

undergardener1 — 2009-10-29 22:23:52Z

Dear List,
I'm searching for details of the birth date & place of my G Grandfather ( x4 ).
William Carpenter married Martha Young in Axbridge Somerset in Sept 1806.
If anyone can help me I would appreciate it.
Thank you
Maggie

Re: Crockers in Somerset

Ronald_Dayman — 2009-10-27 21:35:15Z

Crocker/Damon of Yeovil... Mary Damon appears to be the eldest sister of my ggggrandfather Timothy Deamon, named after his father. This family with several surname spellings lived in Barwick a hamlet a couple of kms. south of Yeovil cc 1750-1800. They then moved to Yeovil. Mary's baptism 1766 entry can be found @ FreeReg Search for Barwick. The children's parents were shown variously as Timothy and Elizabeth (Betty) Damon,Deman,Deamon and Dinan. I only know the history of my ggggfather, born in 1775. Served in the Royal Artillery 1794-1814 and died in Yeovil in 1859. I hope this helps you rocket and thanks for details about my ggggaunt!

Re: Tracing, Palmer, Briffett, Ware, Davis and Rich

tscott102 — 2009-10-26 19:29:40Z

Hi

I have traced the Davis family which are a relation of mine back to 1750 in Charlinch. I'd be interested to hear what information you have on the Davis family in the Charlinch/Somerset area?

I look forward to hearing from you.

Tom Scott

Re: SURNAME - SCOTT

tscott102 — 2009-10-26 19:14:24Z

Hi

My family are from Bridgwater Somerset, I have traced them back to circa 1770, I would be interested to know more about your Scott relatives you may have from the Bridgwater/Somerset region?

I look forward to hearing from you.

Tom Scott

Re: Scott-Coles

tscott102 — 2009-10-26 19:10:38Z

Re: Scott-Coles pre1758 Dulverton/Exford area of England

tscott102 — 2009-10-26 19:10:14Z

Re: Scott William of Exford, Somerset

tscott102 — 2009-10-26 19:08:33Z

Hi

My family are from Bridgwater Somerset, I have traced them back to circa 1770, I would be interested to know more about your Scott relatives you may have from the Devon/Bridgwater/Somerset region?

I look forward to hearing from you.

Tom Scott

Re: James Scott Hake and Agnes James

tscott102 — 2009-10-26 19:05:20Z

Re: Railway personnel records in Somerset

celia_turner — 2009-10-25 16:54:31Z

David

Are you aware that there was a Somerset & Dorset Joint Railway company - there is bound to be a website.

Celia

Re: Wife of Richmond Oliver Parfitt

Merice46 — 2009-10-31 10:38:06Z

Hi,
Have you got this???

1901 census for east Cardiff Glamorgan

Piece 4974 Fol 38 Page 47

3 bedford Place

John Parfitt 38 wid. corporation carter born Stoke lane
Mary E 14 born Havod? Glamorgan
Eveline M 1 born Cardiff Glamorgan

Regards

Sandra

Re: Middlezoy, Westonzoyland and Othery, Somerset families

dwwjackson — 2009-10-23 03:30:25Z

Frank Bawden and Sarah Joan (Eddington) Bawden were my Great Grandparents. My grandmother Kate (Bawden) married Robert Henry Taylor and they came to the U.S. in 1912.

Lucy Ann and Kate were sisters.
I have been trying to make some connection to my Grandfather Henry Robert Taylor. He was born in Wiveliscombe
to Thomas and Mary Taylor in 1888.
Thanks for the reply. Wish we could make contact a different way.

James Millard

mischieflele — 2009-10-24 15:38:48Z

I am searching for if James Millard b.1863 in Frome, Somerset had any children.

James worked as a Wire Drawer and I think was married to a Charlotte Davis.

I am having difficulty on seeing if they had any children.

I do not have much information on his wife Charlotte Davis either,

More information on James Millard though is that his parents were William Millard b.1820 and Mary Harper b.1822 and had a brother, Edwin b.1868 who moved to Dewsbury, Yorkshire.

So please if you have any information please do reply,

Re: James Millard

mischieflele — 2009-10-25 08:30:37Z

Thank you!

This has been extremley helpful.

Re: Wines family

AGostelow — 2009-10-29 03:23:38Z

Jim, I know that you are currently researching the Wines family, but is there any chance that you are descended from Jane Drummond who emigrated with her family from Ireland to WA & married Michael Clarkson in 1833? Sorry but I have no links to the Wines! Just wondered re Drummonds.

Re: Wife of Richmond Oliver Parfitt

grrr0001 — 2009-11-01 10:20:39Z

And the winner is ... neither!

Based on Arthur Sidney Parfitt's birth certificate, his (and May's) father is John Parfitt, not Richmond Oliver Parfitt, The mother is Emily Southway (deceased.) Richmond has a brother John.

So, I assume that Arthur and May stayed with their grandparents, while their father John, mourned his wife. Coincidence, or perhaps mourning the death of his own wife, brought their Uncle Richmond to be at the same place at that time.

Thanks again to everyone for their help.

Kind regards, Grant

Re: Douglas Granville Bowen Partridge - 1911 census look-up

12325373 — 2009-11-01 17:13:51Z

Hello. You probably already have this information but twice is better than never.Living at 8 Beaconfields Road, Weston Super Mare, Somerset

Godfrey Bowen Partridge Head Married 50 Civil engineer (Retired) AMICE. Born Calcutta India. Resident. British Subject by parentage.

Elizabeth Stewart Partridge Wife Married 51 16 years married. Born Dublin, Ireland.

Douglas Godfrey Bowen Partridge Son 15 School. Born Garakhpur India. British subject by parentage.

Noel Godfrey Partridge Son 11 School. Born Sydenham, Kent.

Mary Anne Langdon Visitor 17 Single. Born Newport, Monmouthshire.

Winifred Langdon Servant 28 Single Domestic Servant Housemaid. Born Newport, Monmouthshire.

Ellen Cecilia Langdon Servant 22 Single Domestic Servant Cook. Born Newport, Monmouthshire.

Hope that this helps. You will get more responses if you put your requests on the Eng-Somerset list as many people do not reply to Message Board messages.

Best wishes

Royston Clarke
Aylesbury UK
royston@clarke9376.freeserve.co.uk

The Bacons of Goathurst

WillardBacon57 — 2009-10-26 14:43:12Z

From 1580 to 1800, Goathurst is home to quite a number of Bacons. Other Bacons show up into the 1900's. If you have a Bacon in your line from Goathurst, as I do, I'd like to trade information. willbacon@charter.net.

Douglas Granville Bowen Partridge - 1911 census look-up

D_Mawle — 2009-10-30 19:48:31Z

I don't know where he was born but it was about 1895 and I believe he was living in Somerset in 1911. I would be very grateful if someone could find him and other members of his household. Thanking you in advance with kind regards, Dave

John Powell B 1750 Cardiff Wales

powellbru — 2009-10-23 01:29:39Z

Hi,

I'm trying to connect with two family trees which have a common John Powell b 1750 Cardiff Wales married Elizabeth Phelps Porlock and died Porlock 1808.

The family trees are the The King Family Tree, and the Sleightholme 1 Family tree.

Thanks

Re: Somerset Records Office, closing dates.

janbuchanan11 — 2009-10-23 12:44:59Z

Latest update:

Mondays 2 January-29 March – On site access to fiche and originals closed.

We will still be open Tuesdays-Fridays, 9.00 am-5.00 pm during this time, and on selected Saturday mornings.

Tuesday 6 April-Friday 3 September – Access to original documents closed.

Wednesday 7 April-Friday 2 July – Access to microfilm/fiche OPEN Tuesdays-Fridays.

Monday 5 July-Friday 3 September – Access to microfilm/fiche closed.

The Somerset Heritage Centre’s contact details will be:

Somerset Heritage Centre
Brunel Way
Norton Fitzwarren
Taunton TA2 6SF

Re: Wines family

viric1 — 2009-10-28 22:18:02Z

Hello Jim,

I don't have any personal connection to the WINES family but saw your posting on the Rootsweb ENG-Somerset mailing list, as all messages on this board also appear there.
I just thought I would check some of the readily available resources - FreeBMD, FreeReg, census etc. which are normally the "first port of call" to see if some useful leads could be found.

Vivien