MARTIN family, Lambeth, 1881-1905
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MARTIN family, Lambeth, 1881-1905
 billcmartin
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Posted: 22 Apr 2007 5:44PM GMT |
Classification: Query
Surnames: MARTIN, COOPER
Can anyobne offer some advice on how I can increase my certainty about my ancestor and his family?
From my grandfather William Charles MARTIN (2)'s birth certificate (Lambeth, 5th Jan 1905) I know his father was William MARTIN and his mother was Emily Sarah (nee COOPER). From their marriage certificate (Lambeth 1903) I know my gt gt gndfather was Charles MARTIN (1), a coal porter, working on the Thames. So far, so good.
I have found a Charles MARTIN, coal porter, in the 1901 census, (b abt 1846, lambeth) living with his 4 boys, including my gt granddad, William, at 36 Goding St, Lambeth. I'm certain that this is our family because the aforementioned 1903 marriage certificate shows one of the witnesses as George TROWSE, who also lived in Goding St, according to the 1901 census, and was probably a family friend.
However I'm stuck trying to find the correct birth certificates for the 4 boys and their father, Charles. I have found birth listings for Charles' boys, all born Lambeth (which is correct according to the census), but the birth certificates I've received shows the father as Frederick Charles MARTIN. In the 1891 census, I again found Charles MARTIN (not Frederick Charles MARTIN), dock labourer, b abt 1849, Hackney (note the discrepancies with the 1901 census) living in Lambeth, at 37 Duke St (now Duchy st), Lambeth. Again plausible. In 1891 this Charles MARTIN lived with his wife, Emma, with the 4 boys with the same names as in the 1901 census. We were also surprised to have found 4 older girls in the family in 1891, who must have left home by the 1901 census.
I have sent off for some birth certificates for some of Charles' kids, which show Emma MARTIN (nee RICHARDSON) as the mother but Frederick Charles MARTIN as the father.
How can I confirm which is correct? I've searched censuses to see if I could find a Frederick Charles Martin with a son William (b abt 1885) but with no luck. I'm really stumped on this now and would be delighted to learn how I can proceed with a higher degree of certainty. My family tree, Martin-Peterson, is availble to view on Ancestry.co.uk. Thanks in advance for any pearls of wisdom!
William Charles Martin (4)
From my grandfather William Charles MARTIN (2)'s birth certificate (Lambeth, 5th Jan 1905) I know his father was William MARTIN and his mother was Emily Sarah (nee COOPER). From their marriage certificate (Lambeth 1903) I know my gt gt gndfather was Charles MARTIN (1), a coal porter, working on the Thames. So far, so good.
I have found a Charles MARTIN, coal porter, in the 1901 census, (b abt 1846, lambeth) living with his 4 boys, including my gt granddad, William, at 36 Goding St, Lambeth. I'm certain that this is our family because the aforementioned 1903 marriage certificate shows one of the witnesses as George TROWSE, who also lived in Goding St, according to the 1901 census, and was probably a family friend.
However I'm stuck trying to find the correct birth certificates for the 4 boys and their father, Charles. I have found birth listings for Charles' boys, all born Lambeth (which is correct according to the census), but the birth certificates I've received shows the father as Frederick Charles MARTIN. In the 1891 census, I again found Charles MARTIN (not Frederick Charles MARTIN), dock labourer, b abt 1849, Hackney (note the discrepancies with the 1901 census) living in Lambeth, at 37 Duke St (now Duchy st), Lambeth. Again plausible. In 1891 this Charles MARTIN lived with his wife, Emma, with the 4 boys with the same names as in the 1901 census. We were also surprised to have found 4 older girls in the family in 1891, who must have left home by the 1901 census.
I have sent off for some birth certificates for some of Charles' kids, which show Emma MARTIN (nee RICHARDSON) as the mother but Frederick Charles MARTIN as the father.
How can I confirm which is correct? I've searched censuses to see if I could find a Frederick Charles Martin with a son William (b abt 1885) but with no luck. I'm really stumped on this now and would be delighted to learn how I can proceed with a higher degree of certainty. My family tree, Martin-Peterson, is availble to view on Ancestry.co.uk. Thanks in advance for any pearls of wisdom!
William Charles Martin (4)