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Re: Samuel SHAW's wife

sjshaw365 — 2013-06-17 14:48:51Z

Hi thanks again Bryan

Looking at the marrage certificate for Samuel Shaw & Mary Lewis wich is dated Dec 23 1923, Samuel's age is 27 and Mary is 23. So I have worked Samuel's year of birth back to circa 1896. I had previously guessed his birth to be about 1890

Samuels occupation is down as Miner but Mary's is blank. At the time of marrage Samuel lived in Goldthorpe and Mary lived in Highgate. Their fathers Richard shaw & Richard Henry Lewis are both down as being miners also.

Looking for a Kevin Dunn who was born in Yorkshire or lives there?

nadinef2993 — 2013-06-17 13:25:47Z

Hi there,

Looking for a lost uncle who is still possibly living. He was put in to care as a child and was adopted around the age of 1. Thought to have been born around 1960, `961 or 1962. Hope someone replies as to any information. His mother is Irene Dunn.

Re: Samuel SHAW's wife

BryanHoggarth — 2013-06-16 14:16:34Z

Stephen,
Thanks for the update on your progress.

The attached is possibly the 1911 census record for Mary Alice LEWIS. I could not see any likely candidate for Samuel SHAW.
If you have access to the census records then you should be able to track back through to 1841 (though the LEWIS family may be troublesome). If you don't have a subscription to Ancestry or Findmypast then try your local library (take a USB memory stick with you for copying stuff)
(Edit - I see from your tree that you have already tracked the ancestors of Alice)

Should you want further help then you should provide the other information which is on the marriage certificate -
the ages of the Bride and Groom
Where they were living
The occupations of the Bride and Groom
The occupations of the fathers of the Bride and Groom.

Bryan

Re: Samuel SHAW's wife

sjshaw365 — 2013-06-16 11:14:17Z

Hi,

Thanks for the advice / help, and sorry for any duplicate posts I may have posted. I'm a complete novice at this family tree stuff and find myself getting lost very easy. I now have copies of the following:

-My paternal fathers birth certificate, which confirms Samuel Shaw and Mary Alice Lewis as his parents.

-the marrage certificate for Samuel Shaw & Mary Alice Lewis dated 26/12/1923, which name their fathers as Richard Shaw & Richard Henry Lewis. It also lists the witnesses as Samuel Henry Jones & Gladys Lewis.

My next step now is fining info for 'Richard Shaw'

It's no point asking my father or his eldest brother about their fathers family as they say they're clueless. 'sigh'

Re: Eli Booth Family Yorkshire

eworld_2 — 2013-06-15 21:05:20Z

So this looks like his birth

Births Dec 1867
Booth Eli Dewsbury 9b 604

and this the marriage of his parents

Marriages Mar 1861
BOOTH Joseph Dewsbury 9b 541
Pickersgill Martha Dewsbury 9b 541

If you get a copy of his birth certificate, it will contain his mother's maiden name to confirm this. You can order from outside the UK and have it sent to your address there.

From the marriage correct certificate you should be able to find the names of the respective fathers. You should then be able to find the family on the various census returns back to 1841.

Re: Joseph Fox

BryanHoggarth — 2013-06-15 14:34:00Z

Hi Tim,

FreeBMD has index of Births Marriages and Deaths from 1837 to about 1960.
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

BMD certificates cost £9.25 from here
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

The info you find on UK bmd certificates can be read here:
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/most_customer...

To order the death certificate you need the name, year, quarter, place, Volume number and Page number as given to you previously.

You can see Thorn Drive, Gipton on Google Maps and Google Street view. The houses are not old.

It may be useful to try to work it from your end - who was the last ancestor you had called FOX in England and what happened to his/her siblings.

Bryan

Re: Whitby Master Mariners

mcbrideemily — 2013-06-15 14:23:39Z

Hello Roy,
I have quite a bit of information. Actually this tree is one I do with a distant cousin in England and it is her husband's line. If you would like to email her direct at:
denmo@denmo.karoo.co.uk
she will be very happy to hear from you & give you details she has of your Day line.
Her name is Denise.

Regards Emily

Re: Whitby Master Mariners

mosmanroy — 2013-06-15 13:38:35Z

Thank you, Emily. No, I didn't find him, and 10 years later I cannot remember my concern! It must have been an offshoot of my Robin Hood's Bay people:
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~mosman

Roy
storm04@globalnet.co.uk

Re: Joshep Fox

Lindacalvert11 — 2013-06-15 13:06:01Z

Hi,

Checking the address on Google shows that it's a private residence, not a funeral home.

Obits aren't particularly popular in the UK, the most you're likely to find is a few lines giving the date, place & time of funeral.

Libraries tend to keep copies of local newspapers on microfiche, so you could try contacting Leeds City library by email and asking them to do a check around the date of death period. This link should take you to their local and family history service http://www.leeds.gov.uk/leisure/Pages/Local-and-family-histo...

Most libraries also keep historical copies of voting registers, it might be worth checking whether they have copies for 1970/71 and seeing who was registered to vote at the address you have.

Hope this helps
Best wishes
Linda

Re: Joshep Fox

timsan60 — 2013-06-15 11:09:52Z

Thank you for responding.

The obituary card lists an address. 58 Thorn Drive, Gipton, Leeds, Yorkshire. Can someone determine if this is for a private residence or funeral home? Is there any local newspaper that might have copies of newspapers online so I could view any obituary they might have? I would hope that it would name other family members and relatives.

(I am in Connecticut USA - If there is no newspaper online and I can not determine what the address on the card is for how would I get a death certificate?)I still have a few relatives overseas in Ireland before going the death certificate route.

Any help with the address in Gipton or local newspaper would be appreciated. Thank you.

Re: Joshep Fox

Lindacalvert11 — 2013-06-15 07:41:40Z

Hi,

I think the Joshep is a simple spelling error. The UK death register for Oct quarter 1971 has the following entry:
Joseph FOX dob 16 Mar 1917 (age 54) Leeds v.2c p.1081

Allowing up to six weeks to register a birth (if, in fact, your Joseph was born in England or Wales), means your Joseph's birth would have been registered in either the March or June quarters of 1917.

Births Mar q 1917
Joseph FOX (mother's m/n GOLD) Hammersmith v.1a p.316
Joseph FOX (mmn SYKES) Dewsbury v.9b p.779
Joseph A FOX (mmn CLEAVER) Holborn v.1b p.942
Joseph H FOX (mmn HAWKES) Worksop v.7b p.99

Births June q 1917
Joseph FOX (mmn WOODS) West Derby v.8b p.742

I've checked out Ancestry trees and there aren't any containing a Joseph FOX with the given date of birth. As already suggested, your best option would be to obtain a copy of the death certificate in the hope that a relative is named as the informant.

Best wishes,
Linda

Re: Joshep Fox

timsan60 — 2013-06-15 02:20:52Z

Thank you for replying.

The actual spelling on the obituary card is Joshep Fox not Joseph. I know that this looks strange. The date of death is 10-29-1971 and it says he was 54 years old all on the obituary card. I incorrectly said 10-28-1971 in my first post. You said the mothers maiden name might be Sykes. Do you have any idea what the fathers name is? My mothers maiden name is Fox. Most of her ancestors are from Ireland. The other names you mention are no where in the family tree.

Re: Joshep Fox

eworld_2 — 2013-06-14 22:00:23Z

First of all I assume that you mean Joseph Fox and that was his full name. If the age is correct there are only a limited number of Joseph Fox births in the Birth Indexes for the relevamt period and the most likely one is in Dewsbury in the March Quarter of 1916. If this is correct then his mother's maiden name was Sykes and he probably had several siblings Charles E, Beatrice, James, Ernest, Mary, Laurence, Gerald and Geoffrey. Do any of these names ring a bell ?

All the above is intuitive and may be completely wrong so you really need to pay for a copy of his death certificate which in 1971 should include his date of birth and narow down the possibilities. It may also give the name of a relative as the informant which will help in the search for the right Joseph Fox. A word of warning though, death certificates ae only as good as the knowledge of the informant and in some cases this has turned out to be erroneous.

Re: Whitby Master Mariners

mcbrideemily — 2013-06-14 21:44:42Z

Your Capt Thomas Day was the brother of my husband's 2 x gt.grandfather. I know this is a long time since you posted but only just found it. Did you find what you were looking f

Joshep Fox

timsan60 — 2013-06-14 15:31:57Z

I found an obituary card for a Joshep Fox. He died 10-28-1971 at 54 years old. The card says 58 Thorn Drive, Leeds, Yorkshire. I am trying to find out how he fits into my family tree. This obituary card was found in a scrapbook of a family relative who passed away. None of my living relatives knows who he was. Does anyone out there know who his parents were or if he had other brothers or sisters. My mothers maiden name is Fox. I am in the Connecticut, USA. Any help you can provide would be appreciated. Thank you.

Re: looking for grandfathers

Priestley3 — 2013-06-14 06:35:32Z

hi sandra
thanks for that regards pat

Re: looking for grandfathers

Merice46 — 2013-06-13 14:14:31Z

Hi,
Relict means widow.

Regards

Sandra

Re: looking for grandfathers

Priestley3 — 2013-06-13 13:48:45Z

hi linda
sorry its taken so long but just found what i hope ties in with john saunders his buriel date 18/10/1833 in leeds as you said the anchor was a different owner by 1834 his wife ann died 8/2 1845 a relict of john saunders of knarsbrough
what does the word relict mean thanks so much i would be grateful if there is anymore info regards pat

Re: Kerridge Family - Hinderclay Walsham-le-Willows

lkkarol21 — 2013-06-12 19:53:17Z

Are you still out there. My name is Linda Kerridge Karol. If you are still receiving posts please write to lkkarol@gmail.com. I live in Virginia, USA

Re: Eli Booth Family Yorkshire

chadwickr1950 — 2013-06-12 12:27:47Z

A very quick look at the 1871 census for Ossett gives the following

Joseph Booth 34 Head b Pudsy abt 1837

Martha Booth 34 Wife b Ossett abt 1837

Thomas Booth 10 Son b Ossett abt 1861

William Booth 8 Son b Ossett abt 1863

Charles Booth 7 Son b Ossett abt 1864

Mary Booth 6 Daughter b Ossett abt 1865

Julia Booth 4 Daughter b Ossett abt 1867 (mistranscribed Lulia)

Eli Booth 3 Son b Ossett abt 1868

Martha Booth 1 Daughter b Ferrybrige abt 1870

Elizabeth Barker 17 Servant b Gainborough, Lincolnshire abt 1854

Looks like this is your Eli. Hope this helps you get a bit further back

Roger

Eli Booth Family Yorkshire

simplybooka00 — 2013-06-12 00:21:02Z

I am not sure which part of Yorkshire my family is from, But i have traced my great-great-grandfather back to Ossett, Yorkshire and then hit a dead end.Eli Booth was his name He was Born in 1868(I think) he was married to Catherine who was born in 1872.

Eli Booth Family

simplybooka00 — 2013-06-12 00:20:28Z

James W. and Ann Christian Harrison

bobarrivedusa — 2013-06-09 19:06:51Z

I am trying to locate Ann Christian Harrison who is a cousin of mine. She was born in Midleton, Cork, Ireland and later married James Harrison and settled in York.

Their children are:

1. Ann who married someone by the surname of Williams and they have two known children.

2. Cyril Harrison

3. Georgina Harrison who married I believe Gordon Welburn and may have a few children.

4. John Harrison

I have lost touch since the mid 1980's and would like to reconnect with Ann if possible. They may have been from the Harrogate area of York.

Any help would be appreciated.
Bob Harnden
Florida USA

Re: Jefferies

BryanHoggarth — 2013-06-09 10:25:36Z

Dee,
I see on Freebmd the idex for his birth
Births Jun qtr 1928
Jefferies George F, Richardson Bramley 9b 316
(the Bramley district may well have included Beeston. There was some swapping with Holbeck)

His birth certificate will give you the name of his parents and then you can trace the marriage of his parents and so on back in time. Once you have people on the 1911 census it becomes easier.

I have tried to find a marriage of a George Jefferies (& variants) to a Richardson without result. She may have been married before so her marriage would be done in her married name but then the births of children would show her maiden name. Or maybe the father was not called George.

You can find out if the George born in 1828 had siblings by seraching for births of children called JEFFERIES with mothers name RICHARDSON. Beware that there could be other couples with the same surnames.

Bryan

FreeBMD has index of Births Marriages and Deaths from 1837 to about 1960.
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

BMD certificates cost £9.25 from here
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

The info you find on UK bmd certificates can be read here:
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/most_customer...

Jefferies

DeeXJay82 — 2013-06-08 22:31:30Z

Hi im looking for any links with George Frederick Jefferies Born on 7th march 1928 to George Frederick Jefferies and mother whose maiden name was Richardson

George Frederick jefferies Born 7/03/1928 in Bramley Leeds Yorkshire although people have listed as him being Born in Beeton Leeds
George married Pamela Watts on 5th august 1950 in Croydon surrey one of the witnesses was a D Jefferies cant make out the name could be Dolly not sure if this is his mother or his sister
they had 3 Children Brian, Graham and Susan Jefferies
they Divorced in 1961
he went on to marry Audrey Joyce Archer and had one child Maria Jefferies.
he has a sister unsure of name at the moment and a brother Lionel who was in Barnstable
George died on 28th of July 2005 in Woolworth London

I am his First born Granddaughter the Daughter of Susan Jefferies am looking to research the Jefferies line so if anyone has information on his siblings and his mother and father please comment thank you as he was Born in Yorkshire thats where my search should begin if you can help and shed light on the jefferies line would be really appreciate it.

Re: mitchells in Herford and Yorkshire

1finediner — 2013-06-04 23:11:41Z

Thank you for all the info - much appreciated.
Susan

Coomber, Underhill, Leadley, Lye, Clarkson, Cook

goureebeg — 2013-06-03 08:45:05Z

Hello,

Trying to trace descendants of the following Coomber people who were born in York 1908 -1921 and married as shown.

George H. Coomber married Irene Underhill
Ceilia Mary Coomber married Reginald G. Leadley
Edith M. Coomber married William H. Lye
Alice I. Coomber she died 1914
Phyllis E. Coomber married Geoffrey Clarkson
Norah M. Coomber married Douglas Cook
James N. Coomber

See also http://bmdnotices.com/in-memoriam/viewremembrance.aspx?remem...

Thanks
Frank O'Donovan

Re: mary ellen hall

jmj25 — 2013-06-02 07:47:20Z

hi
I know that she married in 1904 and i can locate her from then onwards, i dont have alot of info on her apart from the 1911 census, when she was married to john william denny but that doesnt show her place of birth which is why she hasnt been so easy to find , then the only other info is what is on her marriage cert, her dad was called john hall and was deceased at time of wedding and was a quarryman,the only match i keep stumbling on is an 1881 census for a mary ellen hall born in scales lancashire, her dad was a quarryman and her mum was called mary ann relph(jackson) , do you think that i could be on the right track ?

Re: Emily Pearson

nanajones71 — 2013-06-01 17:55:45Z

Hi Ellen thank you for that info everything is now falling in place take care Ruth

Re: Emily Pearson

nanajones71 — 2013-06-01 17:52:20Z

Hi Mary thanks so much that is a lot of info will let my cousin in Australia know what you wonderful people have found for me take care Ruth

Re: Emily Pearson

B_Booth1_1 — 2013-06-01 16:30:35Z

Mary Earley married James Pearson 21/11/1869,she was born 7/8 1848 and died 30/111903.
James Pearson born 25/2/1853 died Bournmouth 1925
According to a tree on here he maybe married Lydia Stead,in 1911 he is at The College Durham
Married 1 year to Lydia Gordon Pearson!!
I can't find the marriage record.

James was a Plasterer /gardener/Dean and chapter of Durham cathederal.

Emily Pearson born 12/2/1875 baptised 7/3/1875.

Regards Maryb.

Re: mary ellen hall

ellenadamson1 — 2013-06-01 13:24:45Z

Hi there ,Are there any middle names from 1904 onwards that may help ?

Re: Emily Pearson

ellenadamson1 — 2013-06-01 08:03:50Z

Name: Emily Pearson
Parish: Halifax, St John the Baptist
Baptism Date: 7 Mar 1875
Father's Name: James Pearson
Mother's Name: Mary Pearson
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Father James is a Plasterer
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Re: parentage of john brearey[1564] scow hall yorkshire england

ellenadamson1 — 2013-05-31 18:00:14Z

parents:John BrereyNameMary BrereyGenderFemaleChristening Date21 Mar 1609Christening PlaceFEWSTON,YORK,ENGLANDBirth DateBirthplaceDeath DateName NoteRaceFather's NameJohn BrereyFather's BirthplaceFather's AgeMother's NameMother's BirthplaceMother's AgeIndexing Project (Batch) NumberP00918-1System OriginEngland-ODM
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http://archive.org/details/parishregisters00socigoog

Re: parentage of john brearey[1564] scow hall yorkshire england

ellenadamson1 — 2013-05-31 17:43:43Z

I'm afraid on line records don't go back that far.Try this
http://archive.org/details/registersparish00parkgoog

ellenadamson1

parentage of john brearey[1564] scow hall yorkshire england

mabuike — 2013-05-31 05:55:35Z

my name is DENNIS MICHAEL BREAREY,BORN LEEDS 1931,NOW RESIDE PERTH WEST AUSTRALIA, SEARCHING FOR LINKS,MY CLOSEST LINK IS SAMUEL BREAREY[REVEREND] YORKMINSTER CATHEDRAL,WHERE A COMMEMORATIVE PLAQUE INSIDE THE CHURCH,ERECTED BY HIS WIFE LELLIS [1735] GIVES VALUABLE LINKS TO HIS ANCESTORS,BUT DOES NOT CONNECT WITH JOHN BREAREY OR HIS DAUGHTER MARY,PLEASE COULD ANYONE ASSIST?

Re: Lygo

ricklesb1 — 2013-05-30 19:14:44Z

He is my great-grandfather. What would you like to know? Sarah Ellen Copley was his mothers name.

Re: William Henry Fenwick

sawilson121 — 2013-05-30 17:56:26Z

Thankyou Sumi48 for your information dates look reasonable have some more info to gather then I can compare and make a judgement. Thanks Again

Re: William Henry Fenwick

Sumi48 — 2013-05-30 16:10:13Z

From Army attestation record William Henry Fenwick born 23 December 1890 Saltmarsh, Howden Yorkshire occupation Policeman.

father's name Henry Fenwick, mother Elizabeth.

Married Emily Garton at Beverly 1 May 1915, can see 2 births registered at Sculcoates with mmn Garton, Marjorie E Fenwick 1917 and Kenneth Fenwick 1927.

this looks like family in 1901 census

1901 England Census about William H Fenwick
Name: William H Fenwick
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry J Fenwick
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Fenwick
Gender: Male
Where born: Saltmarshe, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Saltmarshe
Ecclesiastical parish: Laxton
Town: Saltmarshe
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration District: Howden
Sub-registration District: Howden

Piece: 4458
Folio: 112
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry J Fenwick 47
Elizabeth Fenwick 46
Arthur Fenwick 18
Rose Fenwick 20
Lilley Fenwick 14
Alice Fenwick 12
William H Fenwick 9
Marshall Fenwick 6

He may have lied about his birth year to join the army the first time and it could be 1892

Name: William Henry Fenwick
Birth: Jan 1892 - Howden, Yorkshire East Riding
Sue

Re: Emily Pearson

nanajones71 — 2013-05-30 15:09:49Z

Thank you Linda that is a lot more info than I was able to get hope everything works out now for my cousins in Australia. Have a great weekend take care Ruth

Re: Emily Pearson

nanajones71 — 2013-05-30 15:01:56Z

Thank you Claire Will check this out with my cousin. Take care Ruth

Re: mary ellen hall

jmj25 — 2013-05-30 07:52:24Z

one of the witnesses is the grooms brother arthur ernest denny, the other is a lady called annie whitehead whom at the moment i am not sure of who she is

Re: mary ellen hall

jmj25 — 2013-05-30 07:50:11Z

that makes me think i maybe on the right track , i have pulled this mary ellen out a few times, but have been unsure with not having much to go on , also john dying in 1887 fits in.
thankyou

Re: mary ellen hall

eworld_2 — 2013-05-29 22:09:04Z

The 1881 census shows a Mary Ellen Hall daughter of John Hall a quarryman living in Baycliff Aldingham. She was born in Scales about 1875 to John Hall and Mary Ann(Ralph). Looks as though John died 1887 possibly.

Re: mitchells in Herford and Yorkshire

1finediner — 2013-05-29 20:14:49Z

Thanks, jean! I appreciate the info.
susan

Re: mitchells in Herford and Yorkshire

1finediner — 2013-05-29 20:12:53Z

Hi Caroline,
Thank you so much for the info - I just saw this post.

One more roadblock undone!
Susan

Re: mary ellen hall

susan2670 — 2013-05-29 18:21:04Z

What were the Witness's names on the marriage cert?
Could they be related to Mary?

mary ellen hall

jmj25 — 2013-05-29 17:13:47Z

Hi
can anyone help ?
Mary ellen hall, married john william denny 26/12/1904,skipton,her place of birth is not stated it just has ox wrote in red , does anyone know what this means?
also i have no info about her apart from what is on her marriage cert, i know her dads name was john hall, he was deceased at time of wedding so sometime before 1904, and his occupation was a quarryman, she was 28 when she got married so i think her DOB was around 1876, i dont know her mothers name,where she was born or of any siblings she may have had, it states on her wedding cert she was a domestic servant .i can find her from marriage onwards untill her death in 1957 but nothing before her marriage.
can anyone help ?

Re: Emily Pearson

Lindacalvert11 — 2013-05-29 16:39:13Z

Hi Ruth,
On the 1891 census Emily PEARSON can be found living with her aunt & uncle Joseph P & Maria A PATTERSON in Durham. A check through the marriage registers shows a marriage for Joseph PATTERSON & Maria PEARSON in Sept 1876 Durham, so Maria is likely to be a sister of Emily's father.

Back-tracking Maria PEARSON through the census and you can see her on the 1861 census in Durham with widowed father and siblings:
John PEARSON b.1832 Merrington Durham occ: Plasterer
John PEARSON b.1853 Durham
James PEARSON b.1855 Durham
Maria PEARSON b.1857 Durham

This James PEARSON appears on the 1871 census (adding three years to his previously stated age)

James PEARSON age 19 b.1852 Durham occ: Plasterer
Mary PEARSON wife age 22 b.1849 Kidderminster
Frederick O PEARSON son age 1month b.1871 Durham

This information ties in with the baptism record found by Claire.

A check through the marriage registers shows:
James PEARSON & Mary EARLY March 1869 Durham.

1861 census Durham
John EARLY b.1825 Wilton Wiltshire
Sarah EARLY b.1825 Kidderminster
Mary EARLY b.1849 Kidderminster
+ three siblings

I can't find the 1881 census which should show Emily with her parents and siblings but her parents can be seen on the 1891 & 1901 census.

Hope this helps
Regards
Linda

Re: Emily Pearson

claireco_1 — 2013-05-28 20:21:19Z

Hi Ruth,

I've found a baptism for Emily Pearson dated 7 March 1875 at St. John the Baptist church, Halifax. Her parents are James and Mary Pearson, and James' occupation is a plasterer. I hope that's enough information for you to rule this possibilty in or out.

Thanks,
Claire