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Holmes Merchants of Belfast

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Re: Holmes Merchants of Belfast

Posted: 23 Jun 2011 12:37PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Holmes and Joy
I am descended from the Holmes Merchant family, but have also had great difficulty in piecing together a family tree. I have now achieved a bit more detail than you had in 2008. My main sources in Ireland are:
The early years of American Consular representation in Belfast (see Google - it is on the second page if you type in Holmes Merchants in Belfast)
The IGI which has a pedigree resource file for the Henry Joy family
The Gammell family tree (typei gammel family on )Google
The Rev. Professor Frederick Holmes's English will which mentions his sister Sidney Gammell and brother-in-law James Coates
The Belfast News Letter index cards at PRONI (kindly researched by Heather Flanders) which show the marriage of Frances Holmes to James Coates on 27 August 1822 at St. Mary's, Newry,and the marriage of Sidney Holmes to James Gammell on 21 9 1825 at Donoghmore, the death of James Holmes late of Ballymenoch House, Holywood, Co. Down on 28 September 1832 at Finglass and of Jane, relict of James Holmes of Ballymenoch and daughter of James Davis of Newry on 3 April 1838.

From all this I have pieced together the following:

HOLMES FAMILY

John Holmes b. 1709 d. betw. 1777 and 1779
m. Mary Willson b. 1714 d. 1779
John Holmes b. 1745 Belfast d. 1825 Donegall Place, Belfast, Partner in the Belfast Bank founded 1787
m. Isabella Patterson d. bef. 1825
Mary Isabella Holmes b. 14 5 1771, d. 7 10 1832
m. Henry Joy b. 16 10 1754 d. 15 4 1835 Bur. Clifton St. Burial Ground, Belfast, propprietor of The Belfast Newsletter
Issue (see Joy family tree below)
Jennet Holmes b. 1774 Antrim
m. William Russell of Edenderry, Down
Elizabeth Holmes b. 1775 Antrim
m. John Holmes Houston b. abt. 1767 (see below)
James Holmes b. 1777 bp 13 2 1777 1st Presbyterian Ch., Belfast
John Holmes b. Antrim
m. Ann Daniell or Agnew
Ann Holmes
Isabella Holmes
Henry Holmes b. 1778
Catherine Helen Holmes b. 1780 Antrim
m. John Russell of New Forge on 20 2 1801 Antrim
Isabella Russell b. 1802 Antrim
m. William McCance b. 1800 m. on 30 4 1824 Belfast Presb. Ch.
Mary Holmes b. abt. 1747 d. 1830
m. Thomas Houston of Dublin
John Holmes Houston b. abt. 1767
m. Elizabeth Holmes b. 1775 Antrim (see above)
James Holmes of Ballymenoch, Holywood, Co. Down b. abt. 1753 d. Sep. 1832 at Finglass, Partner in Holmes and Davis, Belfast Linen Merchants, US Consul in Belfast
m. Jane Davis b. abt 1762, d. 27 3 1838, Hill St., Newry
Maria Holmes b. 17 6 1783 1st Presb. Ch. Belfast
The Rev. Professor Frederick Holmes, b. 1791 Co. Down (per 1841 census) d. 15 10 1850 Shrewsbury, MA 1825, St. John's, Cambridge, 3rd professor and Bursar, Bishop's College, Calcutta 1826 - 36
m. Anna Maria Loxdale b. 7 4 1792, bp. 9 April 1792 Condover, Shropshire m. 9 March 1825, Shrewsbury, St. Chad d. 6 June 1863 Montgomery
Rosamund Holmes b. 12 1 1826 Calcutta d. June 1893 Shrewsbury
m. The Rev. Edward Warter b. 18 9 1811 m. 9 9 1856 d. 25 11 1878
Hugo Francis Warter b. 1859 d. 1865
Cecil Frederick Holmes, MA, JP,b. 31 7 1828 Calcutta bp. 13 6 1832 Shrewsbury, St. Chad, d. 25 4 1887 Harrow, Senior Asst. Master Harrow School 1853 1887, Cambridge Cricket Blue
m. Constantina Louisa Laugher b. 1 11 1833, m. 28 7 1857, Montgomery, d. 5 1 1889
Constance Sidney Holmes b. 12 8 1858
m. Sir Frank A Swettenham, CMG, m. 21 2 1878, Br. Resident in Selangor.
Cecil Devereux holmes b. 22 10 1859 d. Oct 1887
Gerald Frederick Holmes b. 30 11 1860, d. 11 2 1895
Henry Carlyle (Lylie)b. 24 1 1862
Marcus Edward Holmes (US Congressional Order of Merit) b. 15 4 1865, d. 13 8 1898 Manilla, Killied in action as Sergeant in US Army
Violet marion Holmes b. 18 5 1866 d, 2 2 1939 Chelsea
m.1. Edward Burgess Weatherall, Captain, b. 15 11 1860, Hampstead, m. 24 9 1889, Kensington, Barrister
Issue
m.2. Bertram Pemberton Stedall b. 19 3 1869, St. Giles, m. 27 2 1902, Whitby, d. 26 June 1950 Knightsbridge, Iron and Steel Merchant
Issue
Nigel Trevor Holmes b. 12 7 1868, d. 5 8 1908, Harrow cricket XI, won Public school rackets.
Lionel Holmes b. 1832 bp 13 6 1832, Shrewsbury, St. Chad
The Rev. Arthur Holmes, MA, St. John's Cambridge, head of Shrewsbury School b. 4 8 1836, Shrewsbury bp. 8 3 1837, Shrewsbury St. Chad, d. 17 April 1875 (Suicide), Cambridge, Dean of Clare College, Cambridge, Classical Scholar
m. Eleanor Willan b. 1837 m. 15 6 1861 Penzance, d. 24 6 1926, Lugano
Frances Holmes
m. James Coates b. 8 2 1794 of Eastwood, Kilkeel, Co. Down, m. 9 8 1822 St. Mary's Newry, d. 24 11 1863 Bur. Kilkeel
Frances Coates b. 22 8 1831 Kilkeel
Foster Coates
m. Catherine Forsythe m. 15 8 1854, Downpatrick
Sidney Holmes
m. James Gammell, Capt. 92nd. Regt. of Foot, of Ardiffery, Cruden Bay Aberdeenshire, b. 3 1 1797, m. 21 9 1825 d. 1893 Fought in Peninsular War
Extensive Issue (see Gammell family tree on Internet).


JOY FAMILY

Robert Joy
m. Jane Ellis
Francis Joy b. 1697 d. 1790
m. 1. Margaret Martin m. Abt 1717, d. bef. 1745
Robert Joy b. 1722, d. 1758
m. Grace (Grizzell) Rainey d. 1762
Henry Joy b. 16 10 1754 d. 15 4 1835, bur. Clifton St. Burial Ground, Belfast, Proprietor of Belfast Newsletter
m. Mary Isabella Holmes b. 14 5 1771, d. 7 10 1832 (see Holmes tree above)
Robert Joy b. 12 22 1798 d. Feb. 1814
William Bruce Rainey Joy d. abt. 1876
Henry Holmes Joy d. 1875 QC
m. Catherine Anne Ludlow, m. 8 9 1830 Westbury on Trym, Gloucestershire
Miss Joy
m. Mr. Tomb
Miss Joy
m. Mr. Holmes April 1784, Belfast
Frederick JOY D. 1853, bELFAST
John Holmes Joy
Susan Bruce Joy b. 7 5 1812, d. 5 6 1832
Robert Joy
Henry Joy
m. Barbara Dunbar m. Abt 1747
Ann Joy b. 1730 Belfast, d. 25 5 1814 Belfast
m. John McCracken b. Abt. 1726, d. 20 12 1803 Belfast
Henry Joy McCracken b. 31 8 1764 or 1767, d. 17 July 1798
m.2. Ann Morrison in 1745


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