Hi My McShanes were coal miners as well
you mention Ellen this is strange on gg grand
death certificate it had Ellen as his mother
Isabella was the witness i am wondering if she got names mixed up they also called their son Henry he died single
as i said in the previous one Henry Patrick Rose and Mary are all through my family My gg uncle John McShane
he married a Bridget McInulty they called their daughter Mary.
Hope to hear from You soon regards jean