Thank you so very much for your reply ,I have been stuck at this for years . According to a Passengers List that I am not even sure is the right one but is rather the closest one shows the following information. On February 22 , 1851 Catherine Tierney at 12 years old on the Ship Marmion came from Liverpool , England to the port of New York with her 26 year old mother Judith and other siblings who are Thomas 11years old, Michael 9 years old, Bridget 7years old, Patrick 6 years old, Jeremiah 4 years old, and John at 3 years old. If Judith is Catherine's mother she had her at 14years old. Which puts her year of birth 1838 which coincides with the New Orleans 1880 Census which says she was 42. Catherine Tierney died on 17 Oct 1886 at 48 years of age. in New Orleans, La. In your message you mentioned something about the 2nd son having the father's name instead of the first son ? I don't know if they got married in Ireland or the US . The oldest son of James Russell and Catherine Tierney is William born 1854 the next son is Joseph born 1856, Annie 1860,James 1862, Theresa 1867,Charles 1870, and Ella 1873. This is all I can find on this couple . For James Russell I can't even find his death in New Orleans, La. to confirm his age at death. If you can help me I really would appreciate it . thank you very much.