I believe its, Fanny P.H. Petheram who married George Rueben Brown-John. These two are my "long lost" family members as well. Fanny & George are my Great Great Grandparents. I'm not positive on how many children they had. Their son, Victor C., my Great Grandfather, married Winnifred. They moved from England to Owen Sound, Ontario. Most wound-up here in Vancouver, BC though. I'm not sure how many kids they had either. Their son, Clive (my grandfather) married Doris Rumley and they had 5 kids. Lloyd, Raymond, Sydney (my father), Gaynell and Steven. I've started a tree, but because I was the bastard child of Sydney, I still have yet to meet anyone in the Brown-John family. I have contacted them all, and have been shunned without reason. FYI - He was 23, my mother was 15. Clive & Doris wrote a book years ago (I haven't read it yet), its called, "Up the Creek Without a Paddle". Don't believe everything you read nor half of what you hear though. Its quite disappointing if you follow the Brown-John Tree. In my research, I've found a cousin (Erin) and a brother (Ryan), neither of which had anything good to say about most of the family. The men are known for abandoning their wives. And the wives abandon the kids (Erin said Doris did - my Grandmother) at the side of the road up in Central BC. Most all the info I have came from cousin Erin Brown-John. Her father, Steve, and Aunt Gaynell got to stay home because they were so young. So they had/have it easy. No one wants anything to do with Ray or Syd or any of their kids (Denise, Ryan and Stephanie are Syd's). I've never even seen a picture of anyone (I'm 43)except for pix of Erin and Ryan on FB. They won't help. They ignore me. All I wanted was medical info and a picture. Sorry to disappoint. I have some more info, but its from the Brown-John side. Its not good.