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Posted: 11 May 2013 2:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi, I think this could well be an ancestor of mine. I enclose some ramblings about my looking at these names over 10 years ago. My Grandmother told me 40 yrs ago that our family originally came from Lossiemouth and Banff. My email is
and my name is Andrew Ross.
Here is what I wrote.

The Shand Family
Euphemia Shand was Andrew Ross’s great great grandmother.

David Ross and Euphemia Ross both of Tradeston Glasgow married 14.Nov.1829 in Gorbals Glasgow [644 2/7]

Euphemia’s parents came from Lossiemouth. Her death certificate dated 19 Aug.1866 (Age 66) stated that her parents were James Shand, a carter, (deceased) and Elizabeth Shand (deceased)ne Mackay.

According to the IGIs which I searched in Blackburn and Liverpool in Jan 1997
I found out the following

James Shand married Elizabeth and they had a number of children

John Shand christened 1.Nov.1789 Moray Drainie
James Shand c 9.Jan 1791 Moray Alves
Christian Shand (F) christened 5 July 1795 Moray Rofford
Elizabeth Shand c 21 May 1797 Moray Dyke
Elspeth c b 10 July 1802 c 17.7.1802 Moray Drainie.

Could it have been that because Elizabeth and Elspeth were so similar Elspeth was changed to Euphemia???

When I went on Scotland’s people Jan 21 2009 I looked on the OPR’s for a Euphemia Shand born to James Shand and Elizabeth Mackay. The only one in the time period of 1790-1815 in Scotland was Elspet Shand b 10.7.1802 and baptised 17.7.1802. born to James Shand, labourer n Lossiemouth.

I then looked for James Shand and Elizabeth Mackay’s marriage. The only one available was 17.6.1805 at Canongate, an old burgh in Edinburgh. At that time James was a cooper and Elizabeth daughter of James Mackay late a stonemason. Did they get married legally after having children? Or am I dealing with two sets of different people?

I then searched for a Elizabeth Mackay’s birth and came across one on 31/12/1784 at Latheron in Caithness.

Then I looked nationally for a James Mackay’s birth between 1730 and 1770 in Caithness. There were 3 possibilities. Looking nationally for a James Mackay between 1730 and 1770 there were 40, which makes it very difficult to identify the real parents. Six seem more possible than the remainder.

SubjectAuthorDate Posted
Andrew Ross 15 Apr 1998 12:00PM GMT 
Andrew Ross 11 Aug 1998 12:00PM GMT 
Cheryl Franceschi 11 Sep 1998 12:00PM GMT 
Michelle Rowe 31 Jul 2005 9:52PM GMT 
derek_walker5... 10 May 2013 4:14PM GMT 
Forfarian 10 May 2013 4:33PM GMT 
clatterinbrig... 10 May 2013 9:02PM GMT 
derek_walker5... 10 May 2013 11:18PM GMT 
docrossinzu 11 May 2013 8:47PM GMT 
clatterinbrig... 10 May 2013 8:24PM GMT 
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