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Re: Mines in Llanidloes

scottetanner — 2013-05-24 16:58:56Z

Hi there,

I have come across your post while doing some research in to the mines in the local area. Pennygreen (llanidloes) consists of a old factory that has now been converted in to flats that runs along the river, There is also Penny Genygreen farm, and a number of Victorian house that still remain on penygreen road. As for the mines in the area there a 3 that are in walking distance of llanidloes, First there is Van lead mines, these mines north/east of llanidloes, Secondly there is byntail lead mines, they are located next to the dam just north of llanidloes. and then there are the mines that I am looking in to now. these are the closed to llandloes and as yet I have know name for. south of llanidloes. Hope this helps.

All the best
Scott Tanner
Trails Outdoor Pursuits

Re: 1881 birth certificate - Montgomeryshire location translation?

jcfl58 — 2013-05-18 00:11:02Z

Thanks for the quick reply. I was confused by the "guest cottage" advertisements that came up when I searched but you have cleared that up for me. I really appreciate that.

Yes, we were aware that my grandfather was illegitimate. We also had very little information about his mother and other family members but I took a chance on this birth certificate when I saw his name and Llangadfan in the FreeBMD index for around the time he was born. The only thing that doesn't match exactly is the certificate says his birth date is april 13 but on his passport and other paperwork he had april 15. I know he was living with his grandmother in 1891 and that maybe over time he came to believe the date was the 15th. What do you think?

Re: 1881 birth certificate - Montgomeryshire location translation?

kmilton144 — 2013-05-17 12:37:29Z

POSTSCRIPT

You have probably picked up on the fact that, as no father's name is given on the birth certificate, William was almost certainly illegitimate: not all that unusual in 19th century rural Wales!

Re: 1881 birth certificate - Montgomeryshire location translation?

kmilton144 — 2013-05-17 12:30:21Z

As you may know, Llangadfan is a small township in Montgomeryshire a few miles from Llanerfyl.

HENEFAIL is almost certainly the name of the cottage or other abode where your grandfather was born. Welsh HEN means OLD; EVAIL may be short for GEVAIL, a SMITHY. So my guess is that the translated name of the abode is 'Old Smithy'.

It was quite common in the 20th century for old cottages in Wales to be renovated and let out as holiday cottages. This was certainly what happened to the Montgomeryshire cottage where my own great-grandparents lived until the 1930s. So it would not be unusual, now, to find a Google search flagging up such properties as holiday accommodation.

Hope this helps!

1881 birth certificate - Montgomeryshire location translation?

jcfl58 — 2013-05-16 18:57:18Z

I just received what may be my grandfather's birth certificate which I have attached. Under the column "when and where born" it has "Henefail"then "LLangadfan". When I search for henefail on google maps or just in google it separates into "hen efail" and seems to refer in some instances to guest cottages etc.

I would appreciate any help in understanding what this refers to.

Re: richard eininon JONES born 1884 in llanfair careninion

helenbickerton12 — 2013-04-20 17:01:42Z

thanks kobiexx

Re: richard eininon JONES born 1884 in llanfair careninion

kobieharris1 — 2013-04-20 15:03:10Z

Is this him in 1891

1891 Wales Census about Richard Jones
Name: Richard Jones
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanfair, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Civil parish: Llanfair Caereinon
Ecclesiastical parish: Llanfair Caereinon
Town: Llanfair
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Llanfyllin
Sub-registration district: Llanfair
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4599
Folio: 23
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Owen 19
Jane Owen 62
Mary Owen 23
Richard Jones 6
Thomas Owen 17

my grandfather richard eininon JONES born 1884 in llanfair careninion

helenbickerton12 — 2013-04-20 14:57:59Z

im trying to find my grandfather richard eininon jones born 1884 in llanfair careninion with no result on finding his birth record i think he may have been adopted or an orphan there is no name as father on his marriage cert

Re: Edward Lawrence -Forden

qujul9 — 2013-04-15 13:18:51Z

Birth registered of EDWARD LAWRENCE - 1884 MONTGOMERY/16/81(to order) - Found on www.northwalesbmd.org.uk
Forden is close to Montgomery

Edward LAWRENCE -Forden

lneighbour1 — 2013-04-15 13:18:02Z

I am looking for ancestors of Edward Lawrence thought to have been born in Forden in Aug. of either 1884/5 or 1887/8. Married Margaret Andrew on March 7 1913. Found him in 1901 census but not the 1891. If he was possibly an orphan or lived in an orphanage would there be any way to trace him. Would it be possible to find any records. Thanks

Re: Edward Lawrence -Forden

sandimcw1 — 2013-04-14 17:34:37Z

Hi,

I am a relative of Edward Lawrence and wondered if you found out much?

Sandi (nee Lawrence)

Montgomeryshire Quaker Records

EdCelecta — 2013-04-12 22:24:41Z

Searching for children of Richard Lewis, Quaker, 1690, Quaker Dolobran Monthly Mtg., and Shropshire, ENG. Wife Mary, bro-in-law John Meredith. Known children, James and Thomas. Came to Pennsylvania in 1713.

Re: JONES / WILLIAMS Montgomeryshire Wales

claire_nik2 — 2013-04-10 14:55:35Z

That's great thank you very much for your help.

Re: JONES / WILLIAMS Montgomeryshire Wales

jqaswell — 2013-04-09 12:25:52Z

Checked 1871 Original Census says birth of Richard Jones states it was in Llangyngog.
1861 Census - Richard 26 born now in Llanwnog
Jane 24
Robert 4 born in kerry
Mary 1 born in Kerry
Emma 3 weeks born in kerry
on http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk
FOUND
Marriage of Richard Jones to Jane Gwilt 1859 Kerry St. Michaels CN06/1/97
Birth of Robert GWILT 1857 Kerry/04/6 (born prior to marriage possible?) Couldn't find a Robert Jones
Birth of Emma Jones 1861 Kerry/04/75
Birth of Mary Jones 1860 Kerry/04/57
Alfred Jones 1862 Kerry/05/1
Charles W 1861 Kerry/04/77
Too many Janes Jones
Can't find Mariah

1851 found a Richard Jones 15, born in Llanwnog living with Elizabeth Jones (sister) 24 and Emmanuel Jones (Brother) 21 (Head Farmer of 30 Acres) living in Llanwnog parish

1841 found a Richard Jones 7 born in Llangynog living with Elizabeth Jones 50 (Llangynog 1791), Benjamin 24, Joseph 22, Ann 18, Elizabeth 14, Immanuel 12 (Llangynog)
Don't know if this is of any help.

Re: JONES / WILLIAMS Montgomeryshire Wales

kepgw — 2013-03-24 23:15:56Z

The one on the Lynmore is before the cricket ground and there might be one in the town itself but I cant be certain

Re: JONES / WILLIAMS Montgomeryshire Wales

claire_nik2 — 2013-03-21 22:24:01Z

Thank you for your reply. I will go and investigate which one it would have been. :)

Re: JONES / WILLIAMS Montgomeryshire Wales

kepgw — 2013-03-19 13:35:03Z

I know of two Burnt House's near Montgomery... one is on what's known as the Lynmore, down past the present cricket ground and there is also one near Chirbury on what's known as Lower Lane

Re: JONES / WILLIAMS Montgomeryshire Wales

claire_nik2 — 2013-03-15 13:10:17Z

Yes not the most unusual names for Wales. I have found my great great great grandad and now I'm stuck. I have him on the 1871 census. Married to jane jones. Living at little gate cottage Kerry. I think I have just attached a photo. I'm not sure how to make sure I have the right Richard in the earlier census. Would I try and find his marriage records to get his fathers name? Not quick sure what I'm doing as new to this.

Re: JONES / WILLIAMS Montgomeryshire Wales

mi2early — 2013-03-15 12:48:58Z

Admin note:
Those are pretty common surnames. If you want help with your family, you'll need to provide some first names and dates. Good luck!

JONES / WILLIAMS Montgomeryshire Wales

claire_nik2 — 2013-03-15 12:48:04Z

I'm starting my family tree. Living round Kerry, Sarn and Montgomeryshire. My grandad lived at Lump House abermule. I am also looking at my nans side. She was a Williams and lived at Burnt House, Montgomery.

Does anyone have any details on these or the houses?

Re: Cemmaes or Commins Montgomeryshire?

alysonmcgarrigle — 2013-03-03 18:40:59Z

Many thanks for this, I'm sure it's worth investigating further.

Re: Cemmaes or Commins Montgomeryshire?

mendillon — 2013-02-28 00:11:22Z

Hello,
Perhaps another route you might try is
In the area of llanrhaeadr ym Mochnant, montgomeryshire,
There is on the 1861 census a district of Llanrhaeadr called Henfache. Lots of people on my tree live in that area and within Henfache on page 4 of 11 there is an area
where they have houses down as Commins, I believe it may have been at one time Common Land ?/
Certainly in 1861 there are various residences there.
It may be late for your relative b 1786 but this could be checked on the 1841 census.
sometimes Henfache is down as a place on its own and other times it is down as a district of Llanrhaeadr ym Mochnant.
Because it is so close to what is written down on your ancestor's document I just thought it may be worth looking into??
Good Luck
Menai

HUMPHREYS family from Llanwennog... can anyone help?

kevinpope145 — 2013-02-25 14:21:06Z

Hi everyone, can anyone help me in the search for John Humphreys?. According to the 1861 it states John was born abt 1833 in Llanwennog, Mongomeryshire Wales... Have been unable to trace before this time. Have no details of his parents or siblings, other than he married Ann Thomas and settled in Pontesbury Hill with his wife and children. Thankyou in advance

Re: Humphreys family from Llanwennog... can anyone help????

humphrer — 2013-02-24 23:49:09Z

Thanks for this information. I am a direct descendent of Evan and Elizabeth Humphreys. This information has helped me out a lot. Can I ask where you managed to get the Christening records from you discuss here?

Thanks
Rob

John WILLIAMS born 1807 Newton Montgomery Wales.

judy510131 — 2013-02-24 15:38:18Z

Hi I was wondering if someone could help me I have come to a dead end in my family tree. I am looking for John Williams born 1807 Newton Montgomery Wales. And a any marriages he may have had.
Thanks Judy Williams Australia.

Re: DAVIES of Llangurig and Trefeglwys

jqaswell — 2013-02-24 14:09:41Z

Any time if I can help, if I am at the office I will always look up information for you.

Re: DAVIES of Llangurig and Trefeglwys

kaludah — 2013-02-24 01:19:12Z

Thank you very much for your reply. Richard and Mary had a son Daniel, so perhaps the witness Daniel was her brother? Thanks again for your help.

Sharon in Australia

Re: Cemmaes or Commins Montgomeryshire?

alysonmcgarrigle — 2013-02-22 08:57:29Z

Thank you so much for looking. i don't really know yet if the information is helpful as we have so little information but it may well be so very grateful to you for finding it.

Re: DAVIES of Llangurig and Trefeglwys

jqaswell — 2013-02-21 20:33:26Z

Have been at Genealogical Office Newtown today found the following
CHRISTENING - Llangurig
15.11.1812 Richard son of Richard and Elizabeth Davies of Glynhafren

MARRIAGE
Richard Davies (OTP - of this parish Llangurig) 25th May 1832 to Mary Jerman (OTP) witnessed by Samuel Bennett (name often used as witness) and Daniel Jerman (Family?) he also witnessed Ann Jerman to Thomas Evans 12th July 1832 and Jane Jerman to Thomas Richards 9th May 1832

BAPTISM
Richard son of Richard and Mary Davies 14th October 1832 of Glynbrochan.

Re: Cemmaes or Commins Montgomeryshire?

jqaswell — 2013-02-21 20:32:36Z

I have been at Genealogical Office Newtown today, tried to look up Thomas Owens, could find no OWENS but found
Thomas Owen BAPTISM 25th December 1784 son of David and Mary Owen of Gwernybwich Cemmaes, Montgomeryshire.

Not sure if this is of any help.

Re: Caroline TUDOR 1871 or poss.1851, place of birth Kerry, Montg

carlamike14 — 2013-01-23 18:12:17Z

Hi tom
Many thanks for reply. My john richard edwards is a diffrent john to yours. Although mine was born newtown abt 1873/74 he married mary ann mills from tipton staffs bn abt 1878. He died in trefonen oswestry shropshire in 1953. His fathers name was john but have no further info on his mum or dads places of birth etc. I seem to have thought your john was linked to me. Thankyou for the info on your john helped me alot to clear the confusion up.
Mike

Re: Evan Evans and Mary Trefeglwys married 11 Jan 1793

alberta1950 — 2013-01-21 14:37:15Z

You are right. Mary married Edward Owen and lived in Newtown the rest of her life. I made a mistake and I am sorry I put that mistake on here.

Re: Montgomeryshire - Children out of Wedlock in 1800-1900's acceptable or not acceptable by society

kepgw — 2013-01-20 21:11:59Z

Common practice in chapels up to early 1970's for young girls to be cast out of the congregation for this "sinful offence". In 19th C and early 20thC common practice for young girls to be send to the workhouse for the birth of the child only in most cases to be let back into the family. As an earlier post stated most such children raised by his grandparents as part of their family and even when girls went on to marry the child stayed with its grandparents

Re: Montgomeryshire - Children out of Wedlock in 1800-1900's acceptable or not acceptable by society

ursulagriffiths — 2013-01-17 22:22:16Z

My great grandmother was in service and had a child out of wedlock which was sent to the institution in Talgarth, where, apparently, it died.

Re: Caroline TUDOR 1871 or poss.1851, place of birth Kerry, Montg

thedwards1 — 2013-01-11 18:20:34Z

Mike,

This is where I get lost. I know all of my John Richard Edwards' (DOB: 13 Nov 1874) children and they do not match yours at all. I have a couple of references noting that his father was "Richard Edwards" and that his mother was "Caroline Tudor" so likely true. Just can't nail the specifics just yet. That's Caroline not Catherine.

It seems there was another Richard Edwards and perhaps a Catherine Tudor marriage in the same area of Wales with DOBs about the same. Your "Richard Edwards" perhaps is not my Richard Edwards. Or perhaps just a different marriage, an entirely possible scenario.

My John Richard Edwards came to the USA in 1887 and is buried in Manchester, NH. Had children named: John Richard Jr., William Daniel, Christina E., Dorothy Campbell, Elizabeth Euphemia, Isabelle Shakespeare, Luena M, Caroline Ellen, Clarence Robert.

If you or anyone else wants to take this back and forth offline, send a message directly to my thedwards1 Ancestry.com User ID and we can explore more, perhaps with shared email addresses. The more we understand about the "maybe two" Richards the better chance we have of zeroing in on whose who.

Or continue something here as you wish.

Tom Edwards

Re: Caroline TUDOR 1871 or poss.1851, place of birth Kerry, Montg

carlamike14 — 2013-01-10 20:27:52Z

Hii tom
Im in shock..lol ive been researching my great great grest grandfather richard edwards born newtown 1852 married catherine tudor born kerry. They lived in john street for a while my grandfather joeseph edwards was john richard edwards son. John richard edwards son of catherine and john edwards. If i can help in any way please ask but im over the moon that i found your notice.. mike

DAVIES of Llangurig and Trefeglwys

kaludah — 2012-12-30 15:57:43Z

Hoping to find others researching my family.

Richard DAVIES born Llangurig abt 1812 married Mary (surname unknown). This Richard was widowed in 1881 and living in Glynbrochan (farmer of 160 acres) with 2 unmarried children.

Their eldest son Richard (b1832 Llangurig – 1918 Trefeglwys) is my gt gt gt grandfather. Richard married Mary (surname also Davies) and had 10 children: Mary Jane b1861, Richard b1864, John b 1866, Margaret b 1868, Elizabeth (Lizzie) b 1871, Matilda (Tille) b1873, Ellen Louise (Nellie) b1876, and Thomas Edward b 1882. By 1871 the family were living in Bodaioch Hall in Trefeglwys, raising sheep. Thomas’ daughter Mary still lives there.

Richard and Mary’s eldest daughter Mary Jane married Richard EDWARDS in 1881 and had 3 children – Mary Eleanor (aka Nellie m Llew Mills no issue), Richard Asaph and John Ernest (my gt grandfather). The two boys emigrated to Australia and had 2 (both living) and 8 (3 living incl my grandmother aged 91yrs) children respectively.

When Richard snr died in 1897 Mary Jane married his nephew John Henry Davies and had 2 more children – Gwladys Myfanwy (m Charles Ioworth Evans no issue) and Cecil Edgar (m Adeline Breed no issue). This family lived in Talgarth House in Llanidloes.

I’m having lots of trouble tracing marriages/issue/deaths of Mary Jane’s siblings. I know that Thomas married Anna Mary Owen. I believe Lizzie married James Fulcher and Nellie married Evan Evans, but can’t confirm these hunches as yet. For the others I have no marriages or deaths.

Please contact me if you know anything of this family! Any bit of info would be helpful – contact with actual family members thrilling!!!!!

Sharon
Newcastle Australia

Re: The Mill, Melin-y-ddol, Llanfair Caereinion

siouxhealer — 2012-12-06 13:37:53Z

Hi there,
Just stumbled across this post. The Mill was used as a holiday let in the early 80s and there half a dozen statics down on the field byy the river. The Mill was caretaken by Janet & John Warwick who lived in Capel Y Ddol, one of the cottages up on the road opposite the mill. The owner was a Dr... whose name I can't recall.

Not much help sorry :~)

All the best

Sioux

Re: EVANS in Weshpool, Montg. - Haplogroup T2 mtDNA

MOUTREY — 2012-12-05 04:10:19Z

I did find considerable information about the Stephens and Rees/Reese families from the Utah and Welsh censuses. I can send you more information in an email so please write to me at owl@mcn.org. Here is the information on John Stephens and Margaret Jane Rees/Reese:

•ID: I242
•Name: John STEPHENS
•Sex: M
•Birth: 30 Apr 1859 (Jul 1861) in Llanddarog,Carmarthen,Wales
•Death: 11 (9) Jul 1914 in Richfield,Tooele Co.,Utah,USA
•Burial: Salt Lake City Cemetery,Salt Lake,Utah
•Emigration: 1890 1 2 3 4 5
•Change Date: 13 JUN 2009 at 09:43:56

Father: John STEPHENS b: in Wales
Mother: Rachel JENKINS b: in Wales

Marriage 1 (MARGARET) JANE REESE REES [*16] T2b 263A b: 7 MAR 1872 in Llwynybustach,Llangendeirne,Or Llanddarog,Carmarthen, Wales
•Married: 1896 in Salt Lake City ,Utah,USA
Children
1. MARY JANE STEPHENS [*16] T2B 263A b: 18 JUN 1897 in Richfield,Utah,USA
2. Margretta Ann STEPHENS [*16] T2B 263A b: 26 AUG 1898 in Richfield,Utah,USA
3. Lucy Bloodwyn STEPHENS [*16] T2B 263A b: 1903
4. 2 Sons STEPHENS b: in Richfield, UT
(I don't put in the names of the sons as this is a file of direct maternal inheritance on mitochondrial DNA.

•Name: (MARGARET) JANE REESE REES [*16] T2b 263A
•Sex: F
•Birth: 7 MAR 1872 in Llwynybustach,Llangendeirne,Or Llanddarog,Carmarthen, Wales
•Death: 3 APR 1903 in Mercur,Tooele Co.,Utah,USA
•Emigration: 1896
•Note:
BIOGRAPHY:
Immigration
Anchoria, Glasgow to NY 29 Jun 1898
Mary Jane Rees 24 no work single
last res. Alberdare Nat. English
Destination: NY to Des Moines
passage paid by W. Llewellen $20
Intended husband in Marquette, Iowa

BIOGRAPHY: Paris Southampton to NY Aug 1897

BIOGRAPHY: Nat. Lib. of Wales
Marriages
Title Rees, Evan, bach., gent., Llanidloes, Montgomeryshire to Evans, Mary Elizabeth, sp., Llanidloes, Montgomeryshire : 1822 Nov. 26.
In Marriage bonds, ca. 1750-1837 (WlAbNL)004420303
Details Rees, Evan, Llanidloes, Montgomeryshire, bach., gent.

BIOGRAPHY: LDS Family History Center submitter
Irma Jean MYERS
212 Oxleigh Way, Folsom, California, 95630, United States of America

BIOGRAPHY: LDS Family Search 1881 Wales Census
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John REES Head W Male 36 Llanegwad, Carmarthen, Wales Publican
Thomas REES Son U Male 12 Llanarthney, Carmarthen, Wales Publicans Son
Jane REES Daur U Female 9 Llanarthney, Carmarthen, Wales Scholar
Elizabeth REES Daur U Female 7 Llanddarog, Carmarthen, Wales Scholar
Marria REES Serv U Female 21 Llanddarog, Carmarthen, Wales General Servant (Domestic)
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------
Source Information:
Dwelling 122 & 121 Lammas St
Census Place Carmarthen St Peter, Carmarthen, Wales
Family History Library Film 1342300
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5398 / 5
Page Number 3

BIOGRAPHY: Household:

BIOGRAPHY: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Joseph REES Head M Male 46 Llangunog, Carmarthen, Wales Potter (Earthen Manuf)
Elizabeth REES Wife M Female 45 Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales
Margaret REES Daur U Female 13 Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
George W. REES Son Male 10 Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales Scholar
Mary REES Daur Female 8 Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales Scholar
Elizabeth REES Daur Female 4 Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales Scholar

BIOGRAPHY: ---------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------
Source Information:
Dwelling Stepney Terrace
Census Place Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Family History Library Film 1342295
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5374 / 156
Page Number 16

Genetic: HVR1 16126C 16294T 16296T 16304C 16519C
HVR2 073G 309.1C 315.1C
SMGF
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
•Change Date: 21 MAR 2011 at 17:24:54

Ancestry Hints for (MARGARET) JANE REESE REES [*16] T2b 263A

10 possible matches found on Ancestry.com

Father: Joseph REES b: Abt 1844 in Llangendierne,Carmarthenshire,Wales,UK
Mother: MARY JONES [*16] T2B 263A b: 1839 in Llangendeirne,Carmarthenshire,Wales,UK

Thanks for writing.
Marian Franklin

Re: EVANS in Weshpool, Montg. - Haplogroup T2 mtDNA

mariestephens478 — 2012-12-04 22:08:00Z

my father is john reese stephens born 1899 Mercur utah to John stephens and jane stephens they were members of the lds church and alot of their records are there. Marie

Re: David BENBOW b. abt 1840 Montgomershire

kepgw — 2012-11-27 22:25:50Z

There is a Montgomeryshire Benbow's page on www

Re: Cemmaes or Commins Montgomeryshire?

kepgw — 2012-11-19 19:52:13Z

Commins could refer to Commins Coch but still in Cemmaes parish but will check this when I have time

Cemmaes or Commins Montgomeryshire?

alysonmcgarrigle — 2012-11-19 15:42:30Z

I am trying to track any information about an ancestor, Thomas Owens. He died in Bangalore in 1822 while serving with 53rd Regiment of Foot which he had joined in 1807. The regimental record of his death gives a birthplace which looks like 'Montgomery Commias' and his profession as a Tailor. I believe he was born around 1786.

Many thanks!

Re: Birth discrepancy : William JONES from Pont Llogel, Wales

kepgw — 2012-11-01 20:29:15Z

Only possible baptism Llanfihangel is
29.3.1835 William s Thomas a Anne Jones Efel Lwydiarth lab'r

None at Llangadfan

Re: Birth discrepancy : William JONES from Pont Llogel, Wales

susanjp57 — 2012-11-01 04:44:27Z

Thank you so much for that information. I was unaware that the church at Pont LLogel/Llwydiarth wasn't built until 1854.

Kind regards,
Susan

Re: Birth discrepancy : William JONES from Pont Llogel, Wales

kepgw — 2012-10-29 22:27:17Z

To check for baptism you need to check church records of Llanfihangel yng Nghwynfa and Llangadfan. The church at Pontllogel/Llwydiarth not erected until 1854

Re: parents of Richard EVANS born in Carno in 1837

jqaswell — 2012-10-07 14:15:12Z

Not sure is this is any use:
1825 Nicholas Evans - Farmer Lluest, Carno wife Jane - son born Nicholas 15.10.1824.
Marriage of Nicholas Evans (born Llanwnog) to Jane Morris (Carno) took place 11.5.1825 witnessed by Robert Wilson and John Thomas.
However by 1841 census Nicholas Evans is not with Jane but someone called Anne who is only 25 he is 45 and an ag Laborer - Children Isaac M 9; John M 6; Richard M 3 living in Pandy Carno, Montgomeryshire.
Death of Jane Evans Llanwnog two registered in 1838 ref; 1-15-57554; 1-25-57502

Re: John James PORTER born August 1860- Montgomeryshire

ddd1232012 — 2012-10-07 11:37:14Z

Thank you so much for trying - I couldn't get anywhere either.

I have to see if I can get more information from family.

Thanks again!

Re: parents of Richard EVANS born in Carno in 1837

alberta1950 — 2012-10-07 03:16:54Z

Thank you . That does give me a basis to look at over his possible relationship to Richard Charles Evans living with him in 1881 census as the second family there. Anne may be a Jones ..who married that Richard Evans 1837

Re: An odd bequest from Catherine FRANCIS b. Llangadfan to David Pierce ROBERTS

kepgw — 2012-10-06 21:26:04Z

David Pierce Roberts was headmaster of Llangadfan School. He and his wife are buried in Llangadfan churchyard and is highly unlikely to have fathered the children mentioned.... why she left him the legacy is a mystery unless his wife was related