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Re: DeBrot and DeHaset, De Hasiet on Bonaire

acherre20 — 2012-10-19 14:56:14Z

Hi, I'm glad to white you and get in touch with you. Mi g-g-grand father was Ernesto Neuman y Louis Neuman was my g-grand father (he lived in Venezuela, state of Falcón, in the town of Tucacas; he died in Tucacas in 1927. They had a relationship with Rosita Chispina Neuman (Lambertus) from Bonaire. Do you have any informatión about them or others Neuman than could help me; I'll apreciate it. I'd like to hear from you. Thanks a lot. Hernán Rodríguez Rotjes

Re: DeBrot and DeHaset, De Hasiet on Bonaire

ladavis37 — 2012-09-12 20:36:08Z

Thank you for your response. I am still interested in my grandson's ancestors in the DeBrot and DeHaset families. I have my previous paperwork at my home, and am presently at grandsons' uncles' home (paternal, not maternal). Some time ago a distant relative was kind enough to send a picture of two of Dehaset ancestors for my three grandsons. Another responded from Holland. In October, I will email you with these grandson's maternal lines. Sincerely, LD

Re: DeBrot and DeHaset, De Hasiet on Bonaire

acherre20 — 2012-09-12 19:48:27Z

My name is Hernán and my g-grandfather was Luis Neuman and my g-g-grandfather was Ernesto Neuman and they lived in Coro,Falcón, Venezuela. Luis Neuman died in 1927 in Tucacas, Falcón, Venezuela. I´d like to know more about them.

Re: Craane

jetgruning1 — 2012-08-08 19:40:26Z

Jean Raijmakers,
Kinderen van Hendrik Smeins en Aurora Craane wonen in Nederland. Een dochter woont in Aalst Waalre en in Geldrop zijn twee of 3 kinderen woonachtig. Ik ken de fam. persoonlijk.
Hendrik Smeins en Aurora Craane kregen 26 kinderen. Op Curacao hebben ze gewoond in het landhuis Koningssplein.

Re: marchena of bonaire

elvismarchena — 2012-07-23 09:30:23Z

Hi Garrick,

I would like to tell you that I will be working on a book about the history of the family Piar-Marchena. There for I,m searching for as much as possible material about them.
I already downloaded some info on my computer.

Please keep in touch.

Elvis

Re: marchena of bonaire

elvismarchena — 2012-07-23 09:08:25Z

Dear Garrick,

As you are excited and mixed up to know that there is more about your ancestors, so am I when receiving your message.
Welcome to our ancestry search and thanks for connecting us.

We have a complete family tree of Piar-Marchena family tree.
I can help you with most of all. The Piar family was easy to seach because of our uncle Manuel Piar of the thirth generaion. Garrit, our first ancestor was born in Rome and was named Luis Piar. The Piar family had a very rich and interesting history.

Concerning the Marchena family we know but a few. We can not derive there history. Who was the firts Marchena on Bonaire? It was told that we are ancestors of Abraham de Marchena but I doubt that. Our key to the whole mistery is the misterious person who is called Anna Perina Marchena. Who was this woman, who were her parents? Cornelis Marten wrote a book in wich she appears telling her great contribution in the Bonaire society. Do you have info about her? I would like to know of wich Marchena family tree you are so I can send you more info. My brother Sideny and I are really working on keeping in touch with our families so I am so greatful to you for connecting.

My email is : elvismachena@hotmail.com. Then it would be eaier to sent you the whole family tree.

I'm ok and I'm looking forward for your answer.

Elvis Marchena

Re: marchena of bonaire

garrick_marchena — 2012-07-23 04:41:19Z

Elvis sorry,

I got so exited and mixed up all my facts!
It was Mr. C.Massur who explained about Anna Perina living near 100 years old, and born 1803 not 1703 as i wrote.

greets,
Garrick.

Re: marchena of bonaire

garrick_marchena — 2012-07-23 04:21:00Z

Hi Elvis,

I am great great great grandson of Laurence Piar and Anna Perina Marchena. Compared to you I am new to the search for the origin of my family name. I would love to contribute in any way possible, and am planning to keep on the search.
I have a family tree that goes till Laurence Piar and Anna Perina, but not further back.
Becasue of your info i found out that Anna Perina was born on Curacao 1703 (she lived almost 100 years!...thats is amazing!!)

Hope all is well with you, and hope we can stay in thouch.

Garrick Marchena.

Re: marchena of bonaire

garrick_marchena — 2012-07-23 03:59:34Z

Hi everybody!
Hope you all are doing well.

This message is to Ileene, but also Nadine who started this questionaire and everyone else who might be interested.

Hi Ileene,

I was looking for information on my great great great grandmother Anna Perina Marchena (born 1803, married to Laurece Piar in 1830) and I came accross this message board.
Your grandfather Antoninus Marchena is my great grandfather!
I am grand son of his son Clovis Jacobus :)

I have the list of ancestors that goes till Anna Perina Marchena (born 1803).
So you see there are two (2) Anna Perina's.

The Anna Perina (born 1864) who married Antoninus Marchena (born 1897) in 1891, is part of 11 sons and daughters of Doloria Piar and Martinus Booi (married in 1857)
Doloria Piar (born 1839) was part of 4 children of Laurens Piar and Anna Perina Marchena (born 1803).

This is as far as my family tree goes (till now).
I am planning to continue researching to see how far back I can go.

It took me a little while but hopefully now i have more time to persue this(our) familly tree.
There are several stories about the origen of the Marchena last name. One the has the name going back to a small village named Marchena in south Spain. Another story tells that Marchena came from the family name "De Marchena".
De Marchena were slave owners and the children they had with slaves could not have the full "De Marchena" last name, so they got only "Marchena". These Mullatos left Curacao to live on Bonaire.
Don't know for sure which one of the stories is true, But im gonna do my best to find out.

Thank you Nadine for posting this. Hope you are doing well, and keep up the search.

Garrick Marchena.

Re: Information on Martijn, De Jongh, Provence, Damascus, Neuman, De Groot

Jasper_Provence — 2012-05-28 13:45:30Z

Dear sir,
Mi name is Jasper Provence, also desendant of Julius Provence from Bonaire. Yes, i do hanve more information about Provence family and will like to share those with you. We are collecting all family info regarding fam Provence, and yes, we do have Eliza also on the list. Pls contact me via email: jasperprovence@gmail.com

Re: marchena of bonaire

sidney_marchena — 2012-05-03 01:48:20Z

Hi Ileene, I think it might be useful for both of us if you could mail me. Antoninus Marchena is the sister of my grandgrandmother.

Re: Craane

moifull — 2012-04-28 00:32:23Z

hi, my name is a. craane, can you sent me some info, only thing i have is a article in a book that my dad owns, were really close related to buchi craane aka jonh philip frederic craane is his uncle!!(kaya craane bonaire) , my dad was born in bonaire!, he said his dad made lots of boats??
i heard something about south africa???..... need help here pleaseee
ow and kachi craane is his grand father..
can you sent me some info pleaseeeee??
im 16...

email: a.cstar@hotmail.com

Re: Craane

jennevive87 — 2012-03-23 00:34:44Z

Kachi Craane was the uncle of my Grand father Ellis Pertus Craane born in Bonaire ninetieth hundreds and he was Married to my grand mother, her last name was Merlo-Craane. We are related to Merlo, Abraham, Nicolaas,Dammers,de Jongh and some more i can't recall right now. One thing i know is that all Craane's in Bonaire, Curacao and some in Holland and even the States, ( New York) are related.

Re: Boezem

gdewindt1 — 2011-07-23 13:10:48Z

Yes, I do have some information about him; he was born 1 September 1876 in Bonaire, and was the son of Jan Abadon Boezem.
You can contact me by sending me an e-mail at gdewindt@yahoo.com and I will send you some more info.

Regards

Re: Boezem

fallon_v1 — 2011-07-23 10:39:23Z

Dear sir,

I stumbled on the thread and wondered if you knew anything about Herman Stephanus Boezem, a brother of Jan Frederik M. Boezem. He was my father's grandfather.

Re: Craane

cmassur1 — 2011-03-23 00:06:49Z

Hallo Jean,
nee heb ik niet, die aanwijzing richting Oostkapelle is het enige dat ik gevonden heb. Wel is opvallend dat de vroege gegevens wisselen tussen Craan en Craane. Geen relatie, geen familie van mij, puur interesse om mensen op het juiste spoor te zetten: zie ook het boekje van het CBG: Roots Karibense, deel uit de reeks voorouders van verre.
Bij the way, een Smeins was ooit eigenaar van ons buurhuis, maar ook deze familie ken ik niet persoonlijk.
Chris

Re: Craane

jeanr186 — 2011-03-22 18:09:30Z

Geachte heer, mevrouw,

Ik ben zeer geinteresseerd in de fam. Craane uit Bonaire.
Mijn dochter heeft een relatie met de fam. Smeins.

Ik kom bij een zekere Hindrik Wilhelm Smeins uit, die gehuwd is geweest met Isedora Aurora Craane. (Bonaire x 1925)

Nazoekingen richting de fam. Craane via Jan Nicolaas Erasmus Craane, Jacob Ellis Craane en Philip Frederik Craane, levert als laatste persoon Nathan Ellis Craane op.
Ik denk dat zijn geboorte rond 1790 moet zijn geweest.
Hij is 2 x getrouwd geweest (met Jacoba G. Dewindt x 1829 en met Jacoba Cornelia Dammers x? + 1829)
Ik zie dat u nog een generatie verder bent gekomen.
Heeft u wellicht meer informatie over de fam. Craane?

Met vriendelijke groet,

Jean Raijmakers

Re: marchena of bonaire

cmassur1 — 2011-03-07 16:56:14Z

Dear Elvis,
it is a complicated matter. Do you read Dutch? Have a look on the site http://www.bonairefamily.com/vrije/index.htm
The site was compiled before the Curaçao deaths became available on genlias. It is not that people were not allowed to marry. Slaves were not allowed to marry. But free people only could marry in Curaçao before 1823/1828, not everybody from Bonaire was able to do that. You have originally (before 1800) three groups of people on Bonaire. Free white, usually working for the West Indian Company, slaves of the West Indian Company working in the salt flats and a group of free Indian. All three groups mixed with each other and were sometimes very creative in creating names for their offspring. Naming patterns followed the Dutch naming patterns for a long time, even within the slave population sometimes. During the West Indian Company nobody was allowed without permission to live in or move to Bonaire. They could not influence the movements of the free Indian population. If you need more information write me at cmassur@hotmail.com
Chris

Re: marchena of bonaire

elvismarchena — 2011-03-06 18:29:21Z

It's amazing , your knowledge of the family Marchena.
I would think that you are a family Marchena investigator.
Ok.I wonder where the Marchena's originaly come from. I know
that there has been a mix.There are in one family Marchena
light skinned and indian types. I also know that not all the Marchena's are family because some bought the name or some were misidentified mostly those living in Curacao.
I am from the real Marchena clan. My grandmother was Damiana
Francesca Marchena ( indian type). Her parents where Pieter
Jacobus Marchena and Maria Sablina Marchena.Who were these persons and there history? From my family tree Piar I know the history from Italy and Tenerife on. But I do not know that of Marchena. You told me they where also mulatto. I thought they where mistizo because they did not marry creols in that time. Only very very late 1900 they began to mix.I tried to get historical info of the Marchena family through the internet but I got few or no info. Maybe you know more? The oldest record we have is that of Adriaan Marchena married to Maria Asencion Marchena.
In any case many thanx for your info.
Greetings Elvis

Re: marchena of bonaire

elvismarchena — 2011-03-06 18:29:17Z

Re: marchena of bonaire

cmassur1 — 2011-03-05 14:48:22Z

I suspect that Anna Perina was a daughter of Juan Felisiano Marchena and Anna Anthonia. But one cannot be sure. In that case, Maria Martha Marchena would have been her oldest sister? Anna Perina's death is in genlias in 1903, but without naming the parents.
One of the oldest records for free Marchena I found, is a couple Domingo Marchena (free mulatto) and Dionara Marchena, they lived in 1767 in Curaçao. And there is also early on a Daniel Pieterz. Marchena who was married to Jannetje Warnink? Their daughter Anna Dina Marchena was involved with the false golden coins around 1800.
C. Massur

Re: marchena of bonaire

elvismarchena — 2011-03-04 16:45:21Z

Hi C. Massur,
Thanx for your reply. Yes, I did read the booklet of Papa
Cornés.In my jourey of my ancestors Istill did not get info
of Anna Perina Marchena. That's very strange because we have all. In october I will be on the island of Curacao and would look for her in the city hall.Also in Genlias I could not find her.
I'm greatfull to you having been open to help me with this cause.
Elvis

Re: Looking for family Stroomberg

pietjanssen — 2011-03-02 19:32:44Z

Gejarde zegt mij niks?
Vind wel wat nageslacht, maar hoe die naam daar is gekomen?

Ronald Stroomberg

Re: Looking for family Stroomberg

cmassur1 — 2011-03-02 14:04:38Z

Dit echtpaar is een raadsel. Kijk maar op genlias.nl
Was Stroomberg dezelfde als Gajarde?
C. Massur

Re: marchena of bonaire

cmassur1 — 2011-03-02 13:32:07Z

Hallo Elvis,
In the booklet Isla die Papa Cornés priest Nooijen writes that Ma Perina was born in Curaçao and that she died in 1903 almost 100 years old. At her marriage with Piar in 1830 Maria Martha Marchena and Willem Jonker were witnesses, propably family. Perhaps this helps. Also her death should be registered on genlias.nl, but I did not yet look that up.
C. Massur

Re: Craane

cmassur1 — 2011-03-02 13:12:00Z

Hallo Huub,
in een boekje van pastoor Nooijen: Isla di Papa Cornés (geschreven in Papiamento), dat ik op Bonaire gekocht heb, staat het volgende over de eerste Craane (in de aktes ook Craan) op Bonaire: In 1765 woonde Jacob Craan met zijn vrouw Anna Ellis, een dochter van Nathan Ellis, in Otrobanda, Curaçao. Hij zou geboren zijn in Oostkapelle in Zeeland. Gaan we verder, uit mijn eigen database: hun zoon Nathan Ellis Craan was eerst gehuwd met Jacoba Heddewij de Windt, verschillende kinderen en later op Bonaire met Jacoba Cornelia Dammers. Enz.
Je kunt latere generaties op genlias.nl vinden.
C. Massur

Re: Craane

hvhelvoort — 2011-02-09 16:34:57Z

Hello,
Please excuse me for the delay in replying.

Would you be so kind to send me more information about the family Craane? I am trying to make the Ances-tree of this family back until they left the Netherlands.

Best regards, Huub van Helvoort.

Re: marchena of bonaire

elvismarchena — 2011-01-15 12:21:13Z

Hi Nadine, nice meeting you.
We have a total family tree of family Marchena and Piar. I'm an ancestor of both family. Our only mistery person is Anna Perina Marchena. We don't know here ancestors.

Regards Elvis Marchena Piar.
elvismarchena@hotmail.com

Re: Boezem

gdewindt_1 — 2010-11-14 02:39:04Z

Dear Joan,

Please if you can send me an e-mail at gdewindt@yahoo.com

Best regards

Giovanni de Windt

Re: boezem family

gdewindt_1 — 2010-11-14 02:37:22Z

Dear sir / madam,

I see that you are intrested in the Boezem family. What exact are you searching? If you can give me more info., Can you please contact me at gdewindt@yahoo.com

Best Regards

Giovanni de Windt

Re: marchena of bonaire

josvos9 — 2010-08-04 09:21:18Z

There was in Curacao De Marchena FAmily the used to be Jewish.
The Marchenas without a de in front of their names became Catholic apparently.

Re: marchena of bonaire

herberconquet — 2010-05-29 15:09:35Z

Mi name is Herbert Conquet.
I dont know if we are families. My great-grandmother
was Henriette Marchena Born in bonaire 18-12-1814 and died 16-12-1851 was Maried to José Iradi. My mother told me that we have a lot of families in Bonaire. My contact is:
herbertconquet@telfort.nl

Looking for family Stroomberg

pietjanssen — 2010-01-19 14:30:05Z

Johan Adam David Mensche married Wilhelmina Stroomberg

Dont have birth dates, no parent names, and so on.

Re: marchena of bonaire

ileenem1 — 2009-10-14 14:48:34Z

Hi Nadine,
I replied to Luivica and it is posted on her message.

" Hi All,

My grandfather, Antoninus Marchena was from Bonaire (married to Ana Perina Booi). I know that his mother's maiden name was Piar, married to Marchena. Don't know at this time the name of Antoninus' father, if I find out will let you know.

Ileene "

Re: marchena of bonaire

ileenem1 — 2009-10-14 14:44:56Z

Hi All,

My grandfather, Antoninus Marchena was from Bonaire (married to Ana Perina Booi). I know that his mother's maiden name was Piar, married to Marchena. Don't know at this time the name of Antoninus' father, if I find out will let you know.

Ileene

Re: Craane

siemprelinasaby — 2009-08-31 15:53:25Z

Hi,my mother is maria craane from bonaire .
my grand father was ellis petrus craane,one of the best boat makers in bonaire ,,,We are the authentic craanes,,,We live in the kaya Kachi Craane in bonaire

Re: marchena of bonaire

luivicka — 2007-10-05 12:27:16Z

hi nadine my name is luivicka marchena and my english is not that good but i know that my granmothers father is from bonaire and i know that they lived in curacao maybe i can help you

greets luivicka from holland

Re: boezem family

ghernandez160 — 2007-08-16 05:02:50Z

Have you found anything on the bozem familly?

Re: your research on the Domacasse Family

lgeorge413 — 2007-06-14 18:16:45Z

Please see message posted today 6-14-07. Any information you can provide and we can exchange would be appreciated.

Re: Information on Martijn, De Jongh, Provence, Damascus, Neuman, De Groot

lgeorge413 — 2007-06-14 18:12:39Z

I just saw the message on the above mentioned names. I am conducting The Surname George family tree research. my father Louis and I, Louis Jr. were born in NYC, USA. I now live in Texas. However, My G/father was Romaldo A. George born in Bonaire in 1889, his father was Pablo Girigorie George born 1855 and his father was Martien Simon George born 1824. Martien's mother was Johanna Frederika George, spouse was a Nicolas de Jongh. G/G/G Grandfather had a sister by the name of Maria Elisabeth George, De Jongh born 1885 in Bonaire. It seems Johanna Frederika George De Jongh was the mother of both my Grandfather Martien and Maria Elisabeth De Jongh. By the way, Martien Simon George was married to Petrona or Petrinia Merced Martijn, whose mother was Maria Aldersina Martijn. More information about the ABC island geneology is available on the Genlias web site for the Netherlands. I can be reached at lgeorge413@yahoo.com. I need more information on who Johanna Frederika George's husband was? Also, Martien, Martin and Martijn are all Dutch uses for the same name. LGJ

Re: Looking for family Bernabela

YuuliBerna — 2007-04-06 12:46:29Z

Hey Lea

Alles goed daar? Leuk dat je gereageerd hebt! Mijn oma heet Laurencia Bernabela en is geboren op Bonaire, later is ze op Curacao gaan wonen, waar ze 8 kinderen heeft gekregen.Ik hoop nog wat van je te horen! Heb je misschien MSN, dat is iets makkelijker voor verdere informatie

Groet

Yuuli

Re: Looking for family Bernabela

leabernabela — 2007-04-06 12:22:03Z

Hi Yuuli,
Ik ben Lea Bernabela, misschien wil je contact maken.
Zoveel Bernabela's maakt het interessant. Mijn opa, vader van 24 kinderen heeft wel een raadsel voor ons achter gelaten
Lea

Re: Looking for family Bernabela

leabernabela — 2007-04-06 12:19:21Z

Hi there,
It's an old request, but still you can contact me. I'm Lea Bernabela. Ik woon op Curacao en ben afkomstig van Bonaire. Mijn hele familie komt van Bonaire. Ik hoor graag van je
Lea

Re: Looking for family Bernabela

leabernabela — 2007-04-05 14:34:44Z

My name is Lea Bernabela. My roots are in Bonaire. I'm a daughter op Miano Bernabela, who is a son of Mathijs George Bernabela, and grandson of Balentina Bernabela who was later married to Thielman. Mathijs Bernalbela had been married twice and was supposed to have 24 children. I'm missing two of the "kids" of my grandfather. I would like to hear of you who are looking for the family. We might workout something. I speak dutch, papiamento and spanish.

Re: Shipwreck of G.B.Lockhart

vanromondtresearch — 2007-03-17 15:12:36Z

Check the following info on ancestry.com, location Netherlands Antilles, Curacao, post: Birth Certificate

Birth Certificate?
Replies: 3
Re: Birth Certificate of Daniel Douglas Faulkner
Matthijs Vonder (View posts) Posted: 5 Dec 2006 7:54PM

Classification: Query
Surnames:
Hi Susan,

My name is Matthijs and I live in the Netherlands. At the moment I am on the island of Curacao for a family visit.

Today I have visited the "Archivo Nashonal" today (National Archives of Curacao). I found the birth certificate of your grandfather! And I made a photo of it for you (I attached it to this post).

Your grandfathers name is officially Daniel Douglas Faulkner. Born on 23 june 1902 at 19.30 hours.
His fathers name is Rupert De George Faulkner, 52 years old and captain of a ship.
His mothers name is Chrissie Haslam Sears (without an profession).
Witnesses are Peter Eskildsen 50 years bookkeeper and Arthur Burlington Smith 36 years, machinist.
The first signature on the left is of Rupert.

I also found the mariage certificate of your grandfathers parents (see the other 2 attachments to this post):

Rupert De George Faulkner (52 years, captain of a ship) and Chrissie Haslam Sears (34 years, without a proffession) married on 4 december 1901.
Rupert is born in Hantsport, New Schotland, Canada. He is widower of Lena Faulkner. He is a son of David Weir Faulkner en Hannah Beekwith, both deceased.
Chrissie is born in New York, United States of North America. She is devorced from Francis Emery Jordan. She is the daughter of Thomas Aturro Sears (merchant) and Ada Douglas (without a proffession), both living in Brooklyn, United States of North America.
Witnesses are: Peter Eskildsen 50 years bookkeeper and Arthur Burlington Smith 36 years, machinist. Both living on Curacao.

As you can calculate, Chrissie was almost 2 month pregnant when the married.

Let me know if you could find the attachments (otherwise I will send them to you by mail)

Al the best,

Matthijs
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Re: Shipwreck of G.B.Lockhart

vanromondtresearch — 2007-03-17 15:05:28Z

Please check this info on ancestry.com ( go to location: Netherlands Antilles and click on Curacao and on the message post: birth certificate and you will find some additional correspondence and info on FAULKNER. I wish you all the best!

Birth Certificate?
Replies: 3
Birth Certificate?
boone3 (View posts) Posted: 12 Nov 2006 4:16PM

Classification: Query
Surnames: Faulkner
I'd like to get the birth certificate of my grandfather,Douglas Daniel Faulkner.Born June 23,1902. I've gone to the Curacao Government website but,since I can't read Dutch, I don't know what it says. Can anyone help? I just need a nme and address to write to.I'm trying to find out who his parents were.
Thank you.

Shipwreck of G.B.Lockhart

gramhome — 2006-12-17 14:15:58Z

My great-grandfather wasCapt. RupertDe George Faulkner. He and his wife,apparently,went down with his ship the Lockhart on May 30,1906 off the coast of Bonaire. I'm looking for any information regarding survivors as my Great Unce George Faulkner,who was a cild at the time, supposedly survived this shipwreck somehow. Would love to know if there is a newspaper account.

Re: Looking for family Bernabela

2006-11-24 22:05:53Z

hallo Jeanette

Mijn oma heet Laurencia Bernabela en ze heeft nog 2 broers.

Groet yuuli

Re: Looking for family Bernabela

2006-11-24 21:52:26Z

Hallo,
Ik ben ook een Bernabela, mijn moeder's achernaam.
Zij komt uit Antriol Bonaire, Haar vader heette Mathijs George Bernabela. Zoon van Balentina Bernabela, die later met iemand met de achternaam Thielman trouwde.
Misschien als je de naam van je grootmoeder opgeeft, kan mijn moeder je helpen, zij kent een heleboel families op Bonare.

Doeii
Jeannette

your research on the Domacasse Family

2006-11-07 02:26:35Z

dear Hans
we spoke on the phone over a year ago.
I hope you and your Family are in the best of health.
You found us on the net. my wife Nancy is on the
Blairstown ambulance squad. I have Emailed you a few times but they have all been sent back. Please call me as soon as possible. 908 362 9683.