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Kohler/Kollar from Graz, Austria

spideywomanrg — 2013-04-30 14:36:25Z

I am working on my family tree.

I’ve discovered that my great great grandmother, Anna Bracie’s father was a buergermeister. Anna was born 26 Sep 1860 in Graz, Austria.
Anthony Kohler might have gone by the name of Anton Kollar. He was born 10 May 1861 in Graz, Austria.
Anthony Kohler/Kollar’s parents were Paul Kohler/Kollar and Mary Bratchit.
My family and I believe they were from Graz, Austria. They were Roman Catholics.

Anna and Anton had 7 children, all girls and one boy:
1. Wilhelmina Kollar/Kohler born 1886 in Austria
2. Marie Kollar/Kohler born 1887 in Austria
3. Mathilde Kollar/Kohler born 1891 in Austria
4. Antonia Kollar/Kohler born 1897 in Austria
5. Anton Kollar/Kohler born 1898 in Austria (the son and my great grandfather)
6. Therese J. Kollar born 1901 in Austria
7. Margaret Rose Kollar/Kohler born 1903 in New York, USA

Of all the children, only Marie was left behind in Germany.

Anna Bracie was on SS Kaiser Wilhelm Der Grosse ship on 7 Sep 1898 sailing to Ellis Island, New York from Bremen, Germany with 3 of her children, one of them was my great grandfather.

I'd like to know if there are any records on Anna and Anton and their families to confirm their vitals? I'd also like to know more about them, too.

Thanks for any help.
Robin

Re: Sissel family mystery

matej_cizelj — 2013-04-08 19:15:17Z

hello

i am Matej Cizelj from Slovenia (Europe). I have seen your resarch of Michael Sissel (Cizel). My greatgrandfather¨s brother was Michael Cizel born on 21 th of april 1886 and he went to America in 1910. Is he your ancestor?

best regards

Matej from Slovenia

Re: Kroha -> in Milwaukee's German Newspapers Index

reeree0720 — 2013-04-02 19:40:57Z

Hi I found some papers from my mother's side
with info about the family. I just have names and dates(born/died) It starts with my Grandma Kroha who was born to John and Margaret Hegner Dec, 7 1856
her family: John J. Kroha, Anthony, Ferdinand L. Elizabeth (Schwinn) Msgr,Joseph F, Rudolph Karl, Catherine(rainer) and Rose (rainer)
My Grandfather was Lawrence Kroha M.D died in 1984 in Detroit. If anyone has info they would like to share I would appriciate it. Thanks!

Re: Baumgärtner - Fehring, Styria

lucrezia_savage — 2013-03-19 15:55:09Z

I know the date of birth of his wife, I know the name of all or almost all their children and all the different places they were born, I know that he died sometime between their youngest child's birth in 1883 and my great grandfather's marriage in 1897. I am hoping that in the next few days the church where his wife was baptized in Budapest will be able to give me their marriage date (assuming that they married in that church) and at that point also, his date of birth and the name of his parents as well as confirmation that he was born in Fehring. Given that he worked and lived on cargo boats, it could well be that his father did the same, therefore it is not a given that his family was from Fehring, though there are and were some Baumgärtners in Fehring around that time. It is a pretty common surname in Hungary as well.
I only know that he was apparently born in Fehring because it is mentioned in one of the birth records for his children. The record for the first known child is recorded as Paumgärtner which makes me think that his mother tongue was German and not Hungarian and to non-Germans a "B" sometimes sounds more like a "P" when pronounced by a German-speaker.
I'm pretty certain that I will never be able to find out where and when he died because of his work. He will have been buried where ever he took his last breath, which could be anywhere along the Danube or one of its tributaries.
I have thought about contacting the Archives in Graz but I'd rather wait until I am certain of his birth date and his religion for that matter. His wife was RC, his children (male and female) were RC but that does not guarantee that he was.

Re: Baumgärtner - Fehring, Styria

fritzkoe — 2013-03-19 15:22:06Z

Baumgärtner is a rare spelling compared to the much more frequent spelling Baumgartner.

Fehring is in Eastern Steiermark, near the border to Burgenland, which before WW I was part of Hungary. It was easily possible that a man from Fehring married a woman from Hungary, especially after the abolition of bondage/serfdom in 1781.

Do you know the name of his wife? Was this his only marriage? Do you have a copy or extract of their marriage record? Do you know the names and approximate dates and places of birth of their children?

You could write an e-mail to the Diocesan Archive at Graz, in which you ask whether the records of Fehring include birth(s) of Josef Baumgärtner or Baumgartner around 1840.

Baumgärtner - Fehring, Styria

lucrezia_savage — 2013-03-18 15:05:12Z

I am looking for information about an ancestor that was born in Fehring. His name was Josef Baumgärtner. He was born around 1840 (his wife was born in Hungary in 1841). I do not know if he was from Fehring or if his family was passing through when he was born. As an adult he married in Hungary and worked on cargo boats on the Danube mainly. Any information would be appreciated.
Thank-you

Re: Maria Kumitz Parish

alfred638 — 2013-03-13 03:21:29Z

Just came across your Post
Maria Kumitz is located in Obersdorf by Bad Mitterndorf / Steiermark
http://www.pv-hinterberg.at/pv/maria-kumitz
Obersdorf =my hometown

Re: Kroha -> in Milwaukee's German Newspapers Index

rebholzgary — 2013-01-18 02:57:54Z

There are about 40 Kroha entries listed in the collection: "Milwaukee's German Newspapers; an index of death notices and related items", covering 1844-1950. There are entries for a Joseph Kroha in 1908, 1915, 1940. There's also a wedding anniversary event noted in the German papers for a Mr. & Mrs. Joseph Kroha in 1910.

Gary Rebholz, compiler/editor
Milwaukee Wis.
gary.rebholz@gmail.com
Indexing Milwaukee's German newspapers continuously since 2007... helping to access our historic German-American culture.

Re: Grosschedl Family - Grosschadl in Milwaukee's German newspapers

rebholzgary — 2013-01-18 02:48:49Z

There are family death notices and an obit. for a Frank Grosschadl, 56 yrs in Milwaukee's German newspapers. Also multiple death notices, Danksagung, and bur. article for an Anton Leitgeb, survived by Mary.

These are indexed in the collection: "Milwaukee's German Newspapers; an index of death notices and related items", covering 1844-1950.

Gary Rebholz, compiler/editor
Milwaukee Wis.
gary.rebholz@gmail.com
Indexing Milwaukee's German newspapers continuously since 2007... helping to access our historic German-American culture.

Re: Mathias BERGER family in Milwaukee - Jr. & Sr.?

rebholzgary — 2013-01-18 02:39:35Z

Have you collected the family death notices for your Matthaeus Berger? They were published in two (2) of Milwaukee's German language newspapers. There were also notices published in these papers for a Mattäus Berger in 1880, son of Matt. and Kath. Berger.
These are indexed in the collection: "Milwaukee's German Newspapers; an index of death notices and related items", covering 1844-1950. There over 150 Berger entries in the index, including several different entries for a Katharine Berger, one referencing Franz Xaver (1895) found in 2 other local German language papers.

Gary Rebholz, compiler/editor
Milwaukee Wis.
gary.rebholz@gmail.com
Indexing Milwaukee's German newspapers continuously since 2007... helping to access our historic German-American culture.

Displaced Persons in Camps at Graz 1948-49

mountstamper — 2013-01-15 01:22:35Z

Does anyone know of displaced persons WWII from Hungary called Ruth and brother Francis 'Jan' Lengyel? They worked in a garment factory in Graz with an Austrian woman called Oktavia Buchta. They went on to UK then USA. They would be around 90 - 95 yrs now if they are still alive.

Re: Borhaus / Borhany ?

cahrichak — 2012-12-31 03:48:32Z

Thank you for the information on the LDS microfilms. I'll have to add them to my queue of films to check out!

Re: Borhaus / Borhany ?

cahrichak — 2012-12-31 03:46:20Z

I'm sorry for the delay in my reply... You are correct, this village is part of Prekmurje. I didn't realize where the name Boreča came from; pine trees... interesting!

It sounds like this village was never actually part of Styria, so I'll be posting any further questions on the Slovenia board. Thank you again for your help!

Re: TRAGL

irvinestown — 2012-12-23 17:40:36Z

I know this request was some years ago but I wondered if you got anywhere with this?

Thanks

Re: TRAGL

irvinestown — 2012-12-23 17:40:34Z

I know this request was some years ago but I wondered if you got anywhere with this?

Thanks

Re: Koren family from Graz (originally from Leutschach & Sajach)

Mohnbauer — 2012-12-17 17:01:03Z

write to diocesan-archive Graz and you will get some info:
http://www.katholische-kirche-steiermark.at/dioezese/ordinar...

Re: Koren family from Graz (originally from Leutschach & Sajach)

Mohnbauer — 2012-12-17 17:00:49Z

write to diocesan-archive Graz and you will get some info:
http://www.katholische-kirche-steiermark.at/dioezese/ordinar...

Koren family from Graz (originally from Leutschach & Sajach)

rogwyer — 2012-12-16 21:30:20Z

Could I trouble anyone who may have a little spare time when researching their family in Graz to have a look for any information on my family on my mothers side. I would be very grateful.

My grandfather was Heinrich Koren
Birth 4 Jul 1894 in Leutschach Southern Styria Austria
His mother was Maria Koren (unmarried I believe)

My grandmother was Aloisia Loibner
Birth 21 May 1902 in Sajach Austria
Her father was Franz Loibner b. abt 1881
Her mother was Maria Gaisch b. abt 1881

Re: Weisner and Fandl

jfpagano — 2012-11-30 01:21:16Z

My father is Adolf and Teresa's youngest son , Robert. Just stumbled across your post when my daughter was trying to find information about our family history. Would love to share information.
Jodi

Re: Families from Graz

Mohnbauer — 2012-11-08 18:34:19Z

think more this can have been military, like at kuk artillery at cannons.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K.k._Landwehr#Artillerie
http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/img/oe1898_05.jpg
http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/regiment/artillerie/img/a19.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/01/Fel...

Kanonier examples:
http://www.weltkriegsopfer.de/Kriegsopfer-Wladislaus-Sternal...
http://www.denkmalprojekt.org/2008/liesing_fjb_wk1_kaernt_oe...
http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/regiment/artillerie.html
http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/regiment/artillerie/artgesch.htm...

Re: Families from Graz

rickmarkell — 2012-11-08 06:01:59Z

Hi Matt,

I too am researching my family in Graz - the Markl/Markel family as well as Weiss. My great great great grandmother was Theresia Weiss. She married Franz Markl a master tailor in Graz in 1807, was born around 1789(I don't know exactly where) and died in 1827 in Graz. Her father was listed as a landschaftlichen kannoniers which literally means landscape gunner - so perhaps was a hunter?
Maybe this helps.

Best,

Rick Markell

Pachernigg/Ritter last known in St Paul

rfgottschalk — 2012-11-01 02:07:33Z

I am looking for info about Anton and Mary (Ritter) Pachernigg who lived in St. Paul in the late 1800s. I lose track of them by 1901. Children were Frank & Anthony. I know Anton was born in Graz, Austria. I would like to find out where they lived when they died. Thank you in advance if you have any info to share.

Re: treltz, trelc, trelz

Lisastanek33 — 2012-10-07 00:59:45Z

I am also looking for the trelz family. From the census information, they were Kuders and then the name changed to Trelz. If it is the same family (coal miners in KS and then moved to the Detroit area), Yustine was my great grandmother. Please let me know if you have any information that you can share.

Re: Peter Schloegel b. 1939 in Graz

joane_flis — 2012-09-20 00:37:59Z

Hi,
Thanks for contacting me. I am a friend of Judith Schloegel, daughter of Peter. I have read your message to Judith & she is sure we are talking about the same family. She said Fritz died in South Africa in either the 1980's/1990's. Peter & Fritz's mother had been married before. She had a daughter named Trudy Schmiedtbauer who lives in South Croydon, England. Judith has met her. Trudy never married. Judith also knew of Fritz's daughter saying Fritz had not married the mother. Do you by any chance remember Fritz's mother's first name? Judith doesn't know it.Judith said the father's name was Frantz. Judith was excited by your message. She would like to know if you have any photos of Fritz? Any info on the family will be greatly appreciated. Future messages can be sent to: gsteele1@bigpond.net.au. Looking forward to hearing from you.
Regards, Joan Steele

Re: Peter Schloegel b. 1939 in Graz

lukeri1 — 2012-09-18 15:27:42Z

Hello, I live in South Africa and for 4 years went out with a Fritz Schloegel from Graz. He was born in 1938, and had a sister named Elizabeth (?) Schmiedtbauer. She had immigrated to South Croydon, England. Fritz had a daughter in Graz. I last saw him in about 1976 in Johannesburg. He never mentioned having a brother, though. Don't know if this is helpful to you.

Graz birth records

Marianna00 — 2012-09-11 03:22:50Z

Hello,

I am trying to track down the vital records of Catholic relatives from Graz (born 1896, 1927, etc), but am not sure where to look. Please advise whether there are online resources, or else whom I should contact to request these records.

Thank you!
Marianna

AW: Berlitsch/Brlic, Bombeck, Alt, Kotzbeck, Wenik, Sajer

1_ixchel — 2012-09-09 14:52:20Z

My grandmother was named Angela Berlitsch. She lived in Bruck an der Mur and died in 1972.

AW: Re: Surname search

helmrosa — 2012-08-26 06:30:09Z

Hallo, mal bitte hier rein schauen....

http://www.myheritage.de/research?formId=master&formMode...
es grüßt helmrosa

Re: Beinstingel and Branics

vstroud — 2012-07-27 00:32:34Z

Anny,

That is part of my family line. Did you do a search on the family trees online. Mine is there, with these listed. Franz Beinstingel is the earlest I can find. It is in the above msg.
please note I have a new email: vb_stroud@yahoo.com

Re: AW: Re: Zach family

BeatrixAnna — 2012-07-03 06:38:49Z

Try posting your enquiry here:
http://www.the-burgenland-bunch.org/Newsletter/Newsletter.ht...

AW: Re: Zach family

aliciamcave — 2012-07-03 02:52:24Z

My husband just recently immigrated from Austria- our last name is Zach and he is from Steiermark - Deutschlandsberg. He said his great-grandfather had a brother who immigrated to the Philadelpha area in about 1906. The great-uncle was named Rudolf.

Re: ALOIS STIFTER

QUABBA1975 — 2012-06-02 14:36:11Z

Thank you. It was from this document that I learned the regions where they were born. I wish they had listed the towns. I was surprised to learn they had married here and not in Switzerland. It was originally hard to find this document as it was listed as Elvis Shifter. It was only once I found out Emma's name that I found this document. I don't know if Emma had any siblings. Good luck in your search:)-Kate

Re: ALOIS STIFTER

chotz170 — 2012-06-01 23:47:34Z

I've been doing research on my grandfather Paul Hotz of Winnipeg Manitoba and happened to came across Emma's and Alois marriage record on Manitoba Vital Statistics website. I'm not sure if theres any connection to my side of Hotz family as I don't know very much but I thought I'd share this with you.

http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/ListView.php

Re: Borhaus / Borhany ?

fritzkoe — 2012-05-28 05:27:11Z

As one of the results of WW 1 that created Slovenia as part of the new Kingdom of SHS, the comitate (county) of Vas lost its southernmost district of Muraszombat. This was the district which included Borháza.

As Mohnbauer already mentioned, about two thirds of the 300 or so inhabitants of Borháza were Roman-catholics, and one third were Lutherans.

The parishes for both religions (and therefore the official recording of vital events till September 1895) were in Felsöpetrocz, formerly Péterhegy. LDS has microfilmed the duplicates of the records of both religions starting in about 1828.

Felsöpetrocz was also a location for civil recording which took over starting on Oct. 1, 1895. I think it is likely that Borháza belonged to this civil recording district. Another candidate town would be Felsölendva.

The entry for the church records of Felsöpetrocz in the LDS library index has an apparent error, because in the second and third line, the two religions are exchanged. Anyway, "carichak" has a good chance to find data on his ancestors via the LDS microfilms.

Re: Borhaus / Borhany ?

Mohnbauer — 2012-05-21 22:05:09Z

not sure if it was in austrian "Untersteiermark" = Lower-Styria, the former south part of Styria. this map with most german names that time was named "Übermur-Gebiet"(Upper-Mur-area).think it must be Prekmurje now. it was once also hungarian. think just this northern part of Prekmurje did not belong not to Untersteiermark.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Prekmurje_Republic_EN.svg
http://www.oelm.at/wp-content/uploads/Untersteiermark-JPG.jp...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Styria
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bore%C4%8Da
"Im Jahre 1890 wird das Dorf amtlich Borháza bezeichnet und hatte 273 Einwohner, davon bekannten sich 270 als Slowenen und 3 als Deutsche. Der Ort lag im Bezirk Muraszombat, dem heutigen Murska Sobota, im Komitat Eisenburg/Vas - In 1890, the village officially designated Borháza and had 273 inhabitants, of whom 270 identified themselves as Slovenes and 3 as a German. The place was in the district Muraszombat, today Murska Sobota, in County Vas / Vas.
Der Vertrag von Trianon schlug das Dorf am 4. Juni 1920 dem Königreich SHS zu. Für den nun amtlich Boreča genannten Ort wurden bei der Volkszählung am 31. Januar 1921 folgende Daten ermittelt: 303 Slowenen, von diesen 303 Bewohnern bekannten sich 179 zum katholischen und 124 zum evangelischen Glauben - The Treaty of Trianon struck the village on 4 June 1920 to the Kingdom of SHS . For now officially called place Boreča were in the census on 31 January 1921 identified the following data: 303 Slovenes, 303 of these people known to the Catholic, 179 and 124 to the Protestant faith."
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bore%C4%8Da
Bor in the word Boreca came about slovenian Bor = pine (tree)
http://maps.google.at/maps?hl=de&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r...
Prekmurje:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prekmurje
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prekmurje

think it must belong to diocesan-archive Maribor. you can ask there if they have him in their files:
http://www.mariborska-metropolija.si/ustanove/arhiv.php

the orgin of the slovenian name Kranjc/Kranc comes about Kranjec =
a person coming from Carniola - Kranj(slovenian) - Kranj(slovenian).
Carniola:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carniola
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Carniola

old map with Boreča-Borhana:
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/200e/34-47.jpg

Re: Borhaus / Borhany ?

cahrichak — 2012-05-20 19:42:15Z

Thanks for the reply! The map is great!

I believe Kranyecz is the Hungarian-ized spelling of the surname. I expect it was Kranjec or something similar. Example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mi%C5%A1ko_Kranjec

A family member recently found a WWI Draft Card showing the hometown as "Borhaza". This leads me to believe that it may be present-day Boreča, in the Prekmurje region, as Borhaza was the Hungarian name for this town. Boreča does have a Catholic church, so that fits, and it makes sense that he would speak the same dialect as his wife (from Bodonci).

Was the Prekmurje region part of Styria?

Re: Borhaus / Borhany ?

RWAdmin — 2012-05-17 20:52:56Z

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Re: Maria Lankowitz?

Mohnbauer — 2012-05-11 18:23:23Z

yes, correct zip-code for Preding. in german zip- code is Postleitzahl (PLZ).
at community-site Preding you can see it:
http://www.gemeinde-preding.at/kontakt.html
http://www.herold.at/telefonbuch/albin-rucker/

on a letter you write correct in this way:
Albin Rucker
Tobis 23
8504 Preding
Steiermark
AUSTRIA

or
Albin Rucker
Tobis 23
A - 8504 Preding
EUROPA

Tobis is a community/hamlet belonging to Preding - map for his adress:
http://maps.google.at/maps?hl=de&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r...

the austrian zip codes/Postleitzahlen - left side the states then you can take in a list A-Z the town you need:
http://at.postleitzahl.org/
example > zip code Preding: http://at.postleitzahl.org/steiermark/preding/

Re: Maria Lankowitz?

juanrucker — 2012-05-11 13:25:46Z

Hi, sorry to bother you again. But there is my question. Do you use a zip code in Graz or else in Austria like we do here in USA. (Example)Juan Rucker
2313 Lee Ave
Garden City, KS 67846
I noticed that (example) Alvin Rucker
8504 Preding (ST), Tobis,23
Is that all I need? The post office here in Garden City will be delivering the letter with the appropriate address and country of destination. Thank you again for all your help.

Re: Germain-Jermain-Yerman Family

Mohnbauer — 2012-05-10 17:46:36Z

austrian phonebook with the slovenian name Jerman- 16 hits - most in Carinthia/Kärnten and Styria/Steiermaek which on border to Slovenia:
Kärnten (7)
Steiermark (7)
Niederösterreich (1)
Salzburg (1)
http://www.herold.at/telefonbuch/jerman/
Jerman in Styria - 7 hits - to find in Graz, Ligist, Bärnbach and Knittelfeld:
http://www.herold.at/telefonbuch/steiermark/jerman/

do you know a placename where are from the ancestors came?

Jerman-orgin comes about the firstname Hermann, Herman, Germanus
HERMAN
GENDER: Masculine
USAGE: English, Dutch, Scandinavian, Slovene, Ancient Germanic
PRONOUNCED: HUR-mən (English), HER-mahn (Dutch)
Meaning & History
Means "army man", derived from the Germanic elements hari "army" and man "man". It was introduced to England by the Normans, died out, and was revived in the English-speaking world in the 19th century. It was borne by a 18th-century Russian missionary to Alaska who is venerated as a saint in the Orthodox Church. Another famous bearer was Herman Melville (1819-1891), the author of 'Moby-Dick'
VARIANTS: Hermanus (Dutch), Hariman, Hermanus, Arminius (Ancient Germanic)
DIMINUTIVES: Mannes, Harm (Dutch)
OTHER LANGUAGES: Hermanni (Finnish), Armand (French), Hermann, Armin (German), Armando, Ermanno (Italian), Armando (Portuguese), German (Russian), Armando (Spanish)

Re: Germain-Jermain-Yerman Family

Mohnbauer — 2012-05-10 10:41:33Z

Cerknica: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerknica
http://maps.google.at/maps?hl=de&cp=9&gs_id=4y&x...
Dolenja Vas: http://maps.google.at/maps?hl=de&cp=9&gs_id=4y&x...

you have birth-place and date so you can ask at diocesan-archive in Ljubljana, Slovenia to get info to his parents and maybe more. you can write in english:
http://www.culturalprofiles.net/slovenia/Units/4914.html

the austrian-hungarian Carniola/Krain was a crwonland of the Empire until end of WW1 in 1919.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carniola
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Carniola
so it must not be that the persons in present austrian phonebook are related to you. but also can be a possibility, as example Carinthia and Styria not so far away from homeland of your ancestors in present Slovenia.

former Austria-Hungary: http://www.brainworker.ch/Oesterreich/Austria-hungary.png
present Austria: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Austria_s...

Re: Maria Lankowitz?

Mohnbauer — 2012-05-10 10:29:22Z

your are welcome and no problem.
the board is for giving info as good as we can.
good luck at your research!

Re: Germain-Jermain-Yerman Family

dorieroy — 2012-05-09 20:26:10Z

Thank you for the information. I appreciate your effort on my behalf. Based on the information I have from records in the United States, my ancestors came from CERKNICA or a nearby village called DOLENJA VAS. They came to the United States in the late 1800's and early 1900's. My great-grandfather was LUKAS/LUKOZ JERMAN and his wife was ANNA F. JERMAN. In the United States the spelling became Yerman. Lukas had a son, ANTON, who said that he was born in Cerknica 17 January 1892.

Sincerely,
Dorie Roy

Re: Peter Schloegel b. 1939 in Graz

Mohnbauer — 2012-05-09 17:57:49Z

only 2 hits for Schlögel in phonebook for Graz!
maybe you write them.
http://www.herold.at/telefonbuch/F7rcr_graz/schl%C3%B6gel/

Re: Schwinger & Pivec Family

Mohnbauer — 2012-05-09 17:44:50Z

do you mean South-Styria of present Austria or Lower-Styria/Untersteiermark of Austria-Hungary, which is now slovenian?
http://www.winereviewonline.com/south_styria.cfm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Styria_%28Slovenia%29

you need a placename to ask at roman.cath. diocesan-archive.
and was the slovenian lastname possible Pevec not Pivec?
Pevec means in slovenian singer.

Ellisisland
Pevec: http://www.ellisisland.org/search/matchMore.asp?MID=16900218...
Pivec: http://www.ellisisland.org/search/matchMore.asp?MID=16900218...

Re: Maria Lankowitz?

juanrucker — 2012-05-09 17:31:19Z

Thank you. I don't know how to re-pay you for your kind help. I found more about my father, than I ever thought due to this communications. I will continue my search and I will let you know about my findings. Thank you again and God bless you

Re: 1900 census index numbers for Graz

Mohnbauer — 2012-05-09 15:09:41Z

gravesearch Vienna: http://www.friedhoefewien.at/eportal/
you find A Nikolaus Vukelic buried in Vienna but maybe his father or grandfather when you look on birthdates and burialdates. no Amalia to find so not sure if they stayed forever in Vienna:
http://www.friedhoefewien.at/grabsuche_de?submit=true&na...
Vorname/firstname: Nikolaus
Nachname/lasdtname: Vukelic
Lebensalter/age at death: 61
Bestattungsdatum/burialdate: 26.05.1908
Friedhof/cemetery: Wiener Zentralfriedhof/Vienna Central
Gruppe/group: 63
Reihe/row: 2
Nummer/number: 6
Grabnutzungsrecht bis/right for grave: auf Friedhofsdauer/ how long the cemetery exist

in same grave are buried:
Name/name Geburtsdatum/birthdate Lebensalter/age
Bauer Ingrid Hedwig Maria 01.07.1940 69
Vukelic Lazar 58
Vukelic Maria 07.04.1907 82
Vukelic Milan 82

maybe you get more details at cemetery administration Vienna > Friedhöfe Wien GmbH:
http://www.wien-konkret.at/soziales/friedhof/

Tracing your Ancestors in Vienna - Some Guidelines
A service of the Municipal and Provincial Archives of Vienna
http://www.wien.gv.at/english/history/archives/ancestors.htm...

yes Zupancic is a slovenian name and came about occupation > administrator, community leader.
Vukelic think is more of croatian orgin. phonebook Croatia has MANY hits for that name, more then 1000!

in Graz you can ask at diocesan-archive to the ancestors - you have some dates:
http://www.katholische-kirche-steiermark.at/dioezese/ordinar...
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.ceeurope.austria.Prov....

Re: Maria Lankowitz?

Mohnbauer — 2012-05-09 14:36:00Z

the parish-church you need > it looks like for Herz-Jesu-Kirche.
http://www.google.at/search?hl=de&cp=18&gs_id=b4&...

Morellenfeldgasse: http://maps.google.at/maps?hl=de&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r...
Naglergasse is a cross street to Morellenfeldgasse, so also the same parish-church i think:
http://maps.google.at/maps?hl=de&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r...
also Katzianergasse is nearby!: http://maps.google.at/maps?hl=de&gl=at&q=Graz+Katzia...

now searched about this roman.cath. link for the next parish-church to the stated streets:
http://www.katholisch.at/site/address_list_map.siteswift?so=...
it says also Herz-Jesu-Pfarre like i thought. you have some luck, only one parish-church to ask! :) so maybe they can tell you more what later happened to the brothers and sisters, if they married and had children, when they died and so on.
Graz-Herz Jesu
8010 Graz, Sparbersbachgasse 58
http://www.kath-kirche-graz.org/pfarren-seelsorgestellen/her...
http://www.graz-herz-jesu.at/

hope this helps somehow

Re: Maria Lankowitz?

Mohnbauer — 2012-05-09 14:30:08Z

a possibility can be the phonebook to find adresses to write persons with the names:
http://www.herold.at/en/telefonbuch/
take at states Styria and specially district GRAZ but also other districts can often be a possibility. Graz has 22 hits, no idea if you will write a letter and send in copies to all... http://www.herold.at/en/telefonbuch/steiermark/rucker/

maybe you also ask at registry-office in Graz if they give details to the brothers and sisters you found which may have descendants. normally document protection(Privacy Policy) for a longer time in Austria, but maybe they do when you send an attachment at e-mail which proofs the relationship - maybe also send the answer of diocesan-archive. i have no idea if they do and how much it would cost, but make attempt and ask if possible and how much would have to pay if they do. civilrecords started 1938:
http://www.graz.at/cms/beitrag/10017599/313159/

another possibility is to look which parish-church is nearby to the stated birth-adresses, so you can ask also there if they have some more to brothers and sisters for later times. i will look on map if i can find out but takes some time.

Re: Maria Lankowitz?

juanrucker — 2012-05-08 15:01:21Z

Danken so much for your help. God bless you. I found the information I was looking for, about my father. His parents, Franz Rucker and Helen Poklac. My father had 6 brothers and sisters, but only 4 survived. My father and his sister were born in Morellenfelgasse. Max Joseph was born in Naglergasse. N-female dead born in Leonhardstr and Franz michael Bruno in Katzianergasse died in 15,9,1904. Now how can I find information about possible relatives back in Austria? Could you give an idea of what to do next. I know is to much to ask and I thank you again. You were so kind to me and my family. God bless ever.