PA archives will be my first stop. Thanks. I had my first meeting with the DAR on Mon. All items obtained over the computor, especially others Gedcom are looked upon with suspicion. They frown on anything from Salt Lake. All must be certified-birth- marriage, etc. certificates; but not the origianal , a copy of said certified. One has to obtain info from books directly and from ceme, ie, St. Vincents. Birth certificates not available b4 1906.