My grandmother was Rosa Pindter v.Pindtershofen from Vienna. I have Information about this family back to 1620. Elisa was the daughter of Karl Pndter, who lived in Milan. Some of this branch got barons Binder (Italian). Obviously she went to Mexico together with her brother Theodor in 1874. I have only few information on the descendants of Karl. So if you could give me some on the descendants of Elisa, I would be glad. Email your post address to my gmx an I wll send you a print.