Kreis of Lippe - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Sieker established?

r2larson — 2013-05-05 17:59:15Z

Yes, I've ordered it already to see the 1600 - 1766 listings, but there will always be a hole in my research because of those missing years. bummer.

Re: Sieker established?

unserewurzeln — 2013-05-05 10:14:12Z

https://familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainfra...

Re: Heepen area cemeteries?

r2larson — 2013-05-04 20:12:57Z

Since I posted that question I worked with the Church archives in Bielfeld and got all the info they had. But the records of the Church of the Evangelical parish of Heepen in the years 1766-1779 were destroyed in a fire in the parsonage of Heepen. No documents remain from that period.

I did learn that before 1906-1910, Seiker residents buried their dead in the Heepen church cemetery. Then the village of Seiker opened their own cemetery. But no grave sites exist because in Germany graves are destroyed after 30 years - Manfred Köllner, Bielfeld genealogist.

Re: Sieker established?

r2larson — 2013-05-04 19:58:29Z

Thanks for the response.
I never found any info about the history of Sieker.

Since I posted that question I worked with the Westphalia national archives and got all the info they had. But the records of the Church of the Evangelical parish of Heepen in the years 1766-1779 were destroyed in a fire in the parsonage of Heepen. No documents remain from this period.

Re: Sieker established?

unserewurzeln — 2013-05-04 19:06:24Z

According to the german wikipedia page Sieker had 1.910 habitants in 1885 & 7.320 in 1910. I would presume it was a village . Not a town.
The state of prussia established a documentation of birth , marriage and death records in 1875. Prior to this certificates had been released by the churches where the event happened.
Probably it´s best to contact the church archive in Bielefeld.
http://www.archive.nrw.de/kirchenarchive/evang_kirchenarchiv...

They store, conserve and restore churchbooks of this area between 1600 - 1981.

Re: Heepen area cemeteries?

unserewurzeln — 2013-05-04 18:46:46Z

Heepen was independent and is now a suburb of the town BIELEFELD .
Churchs are Peter und Paulus Kirche est. about 800 A.D. ( today protestant ).St. Hedwig Kirche est. about 1955 ( catholic ).
http://www.kirche-bielefeld.de/.cms/62

Re: Ratmeyer of Sabbenhausen

gchdrake — 2013-03-30 09:01:36Z

Hello,
I am in Detmold now and have just met Friedhelm Ratmeier, what an amazing man... He is going to send me his contact information, he is apparently using the internet now and has an email address. If nothing else you could send snail mail to his restaurant, I have the address if you don't.

I am a Drake but there is evidence that we are connected to the Ratmeier name, I wonder if either of you see a link to Drake's in the histories you each have, if so I would greatly appreciate a scan and the relevant information. It appears from my research here that my Drakes may be from Butze which, if you know the area, is just a one block street next to Ratsiek.

Please reply here or to gchdrake@drakehistory.com and thank you both very much,
Gordon Drake

Re: Klaas Family

BenDocks — 2013-03-23 01:08:18Z

Hello,

I am Looking for some Klass Descendents as well from Lippe, Germany. My great great grandfather William Klass who resided in Oconto, Wisconsin, was born in 1834 in Lippe-Detmold (aprox). The furthest census record I have found is 1870 when he was 36, married with two children. Wife, was Anna Elixabeth Klass (Henrich). In the sensus record, there is a Simon Klass who is listed which may be a younger brother. Their immigration travel appeared to be in 1851 or 1853.

If you have any knowledge of them please contact me.

Thanks,

Ben

Re: Lemgo, Lippe, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany Research Help

greaves28 — 2012-12-31 06:06:25Z

Good morning from Kent in England. I am trying to find out where and when my G-G-Grandfather, Friedrich Ludwig Wilhelm Ernst Schleicher, died. I know his wife, Henriette Auguste (nee Starke), applied to Detmold in 1879 to open a maternity home. In that application, she said that her husband had died 11 years earlier - 1867 or 1868. She died in a convent for nuns in Lemgo on 11 December 1898...but where is he buried and when did he die? Can anyone help?? Robin

Bockenheim location

marmil74 — 2012-10-31 18:14:24Z

I am trying to locate the place of birth for WILHELM GUSTAV RAUCHSCHWALBE. Records state that he was born in 1884 at Bockenheim, Germany. Was there a Bockenheim in or near Lippe-Detmold at that time. I realize there are other Bockenheim locations but I find others of his family in Wüsten and Schotmar. His last residence before he came to America in 1912 was at Schotmar. Any help would be appreciated.

Heepen area cemeteries?

r2larson — 2012-10-25 19:38:55Z

Can anyone direct me to a listing of Heepen area cemeteries?

Sieker established?

r2larson — 2012-10-23 06:10:53Z

I know thw town of Lippe lies between Sieker and Detmold. Does anyone know if Sieker was an actual village/town in the 1850's? Where should I start to find a birth record for a man born in Sieker between 1851-1854?

Thx. all.

Re: Lemgo, Lippe, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany Research Help

Evelynschumacher21 — 2012-10-22 04:56:23Z

http://www.archive.nrw.de/index.php?lang=engl

Hi,
above you find a link to the main archive in Detmold that keeps teh records (English). You may write an email to them am ask for the records you are looking for. With exact names and dates it does not take longer than a quarter of an hour and thus would not cost much.
Furthermore I suggest you put a query on the Northrhine Westphalia board and ask if somebody is so kind as to provide the records while researching there on his own behalf.
And if nothing works feel free to send a private message.

Gaby (Germany, Nordrhein-Westfalen)

Re: Ratmeyer of Sabbenhausen

ryankaney1 — 2012-09-14 15:01:34Z

I would appreciate it if you have time. Please send the file to ryankaney@gmail.com. i will send you a scan of ours if it is different

Re: Ratmeyer of Sabbenhausen

welthund1 — 2012-09-14 14:24:27Z

Hello :)
Maybe I can help you with finding a little more information. My mom's maiden surname is Ratmeyer (now she's called Unger). We have an old family register that dates back to the 17th century. If you are interested I could send you some copies.

Reese/Ebert

ReeseFamilyOrg — 2012-07-15 10:04:13Z

I am looking for anyone that is currently living or passed in the Lemgo/Heiden/Luerdissen/Trophagen, Germany area that carries the name REESE or EBERT that may be related. I am writing a family history book.

My great grandfather's name was Fredrich Henrich Adolph REESE (Fritz)b: 2 Jun 1852 Heiden, Germany (wife: Caroline Henrietta Amelia EBERT) B: 27 Sept 1863 Luerdissen, Germany

Fritz's Father was Fredrich Daniel REESE B: 16 Mar 1819 (wife: Florentine Louise JASPER) B: 20 Apr 1817

Fredich Daniel's father was Johann Henrich REESE (wife:) Henrieta Schloemers)

My great gramdmother Caroline Henrieta EBERT (Amelia)'s father was Simon Heinrich Wilhelm EBERT B: 04 Aug 1828 (wife: Louise Friedrike Kondrike TASCHE)B: 02 Feb 1834

Simon EBERT's father --> Toens Henrich EBERT
Simon EBERT's mother --> Anne Sophie KRUEGER

Louise EBERT's father --> Simon Gottlieb TASCHE
Louise EBERT's mother --> Elisabeth HILKEMANN

Louise EBERT's siblings:

Henrich Adolph Tasche 17 Nov 1817

Amelia Reese (EBERT's) siblings:

Wilhelmine Ebert 1858 –
Henriette Emilie Auguste Ebert 1860 – 1861
Wilhelm Ebert 1860 –
Carl Ebert 1864 –

Fritz REESE's siblings:

Karoline Wilhelmine Louise Reese 1845 – 1849
Henrich August Reese 1847 –
Louise Emilie Juliane Reese 1855 –
Wilhelmine Henrietle Philippine Reese 1858 – 1858
Fredrich Herman Roese (Reese) 1859 – 1862
Dorthea Henriette Karoline Reese 1861 –

Please send me any pictures/documentation anything that you have. (I know that Germany recycles their graves, but if you have any cemetery markers...anything. I am already in touch with my cousins in Lemgo, Germany. Maybe you don't have any people but maybe other things related to my history. For example Fritz Reese was a stone mason and Simon Ebert was a Beer maker...any documents that point to those things....

Thank you so much.

Kevin Airrington
kevin@reesefamily.org
www.reesefamily.org

Ich bin für jeden, der lebt derzeit sucht oder bestanden in der Lemgo / Heiden / Luerdissen / Trophagen, Deutschland Gebiet, das den Namen REESE oder EBERT, die bezogen werden kann trägt. Ich schreibe eine Familienchronik.

Mein Urgroßvater hieß Fredrich Henrich Adolph Reese (Fritz) b: 2. Juni 1852 Heiden, Deutschland (Ehefrau: Caroline Henrietta Amelia Ebert) B: 27 September 1863 Luerdissen, Deutschland

Fritz 'Vater war Fredrich Daniel REESE B: 16. März 1819 (Frau: Florentine Louise Jasper) B: 20 April 1817

Fredich Daniels Vater war Johann Henrich Reese (Frau :) Henrieta Schloemers)

Meine große gramdmother Caroline Henrieta EBERT (Amelia) 's Vater war Simon Heinrich Wilhelm EBERT B: 4. August 1828 (Frau: Louise Friederike Kondrike TASCHE) B: 2. Februar 1834

Simon Eberts Vater -> Töns Henrich EBERT
Simon Ebert Mutter -> Anne Sophie KRUEGER

Louise Eberts Vater -> Simon Gottlieb TASCHE
Louise Ebert Mutter -> Elisabeth HILKEMANN

Louise Ebert Geschwister:

Henrich Adolph Tasche 17 November 1817

Amelia Reese (Ebert) Geschwister:

Wilhelmine Ebert 1858 -
Henriette Emilie Auguste Ebert 1860 - 1861
Wilhelm Ebert 1860 -
Carl Ebert 1864 -

Fritz Reese Geschwister:

Karoline Wilhelmine Louise Reese 1845 - 1849
Henrich August Reese 1847 -
Emilie Louise Juliane Reese 1855 -
Wilhelmine Philippine Henrietle Reese 1858 - 1858
Fredrich Herman Roese (Reese) von 1859 bis 1862
Dorothe Henriette Karoline Reese 1861 -

Bitte senden Sie mir keine Bilder / Dokumentation alles, was Sie haben. (Ich weiß, dass Deutschland ihre Gräber recycelt, aber wenn Sie irgendwelche Marker Friedhof ... nichts. Haben Ich bin bereits in Kontakt mit meinen Cousins in Lemgo, Deutschland. Vielleicht haben Sie haben noch keine Menschen, aber vielleicht andere Dinge im Zusammenhang mit meiner Geschichte . zum Beispiel Fritz Reese war ein Steinmetz und Simon Ebert war ein Bier maker ... alle Dokumente, die auf diese Dinge ....

Vielen, vielen Dank.

Kevin Airrington
kevin@reesefamily.org~~V
www.reesefamily.org

Ratmeyer of Sabbenhausen

ryankaney1 — 2012-07-03 02:54:55Z

Looking for any more information on current Ratmeyer's or other version's of family history.

I have a copy of a genealogy printed in 1931 in German with an English translation for anyone interested, which traces that line back to the early 1700's. Towns in Germany include Lüdge, Sabbenhausen, Lüdenberge, Radsieke, Ratsiek, Elbringen, Hörter, Wörderfeld, Detmold, Neerfen, Falkenhagen

Johannes Arndt Ratmeyer 1760 - 1832 was the most wealthy descendant in the area who's fortune was squandered away by his sons.

Currently, a Friedhelm and Kornelia Ratmeyer operate a pub called Braugasse in Detmold. If anyone has any contact information for them, I'd appreciate it. Friedhelm is getting up there in age and has been a source of information on the German side to some relatives.

Biemsen church records

dnegus — 2012-06-28 03:49:29Z

Can anyone tell me the numbers of the LDS church records for the birth, marriage and deaths for Biemsen in the 1600's and 1700's. Thanks.

Knetterheide , Aspe Church records

dnegus — 2012-06-28 03:47:27Z

Can anyone tell me what LDS records to order for the towns of Knetterheide and Aspe in the 1600's and 1700's for birth, marriage and death. Thanks so much.

Lemgo, Lippe, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany Research Help

ReeseFamilyOrg — 2012-05-31 06:25:15Z

I am looking for help finding the records of my relatives in Germany. I have searched churches, community archives and the Standesamt. I know the records exist because my cousin found them in 1982 when he visited Germany in 1982. Unfortunately, he has passed on the documents have been lost. Any help would be appreciated. If someone lives in Lemgo and can help.

I have more info but for starters I will post my grand Parents:

Fredrich Henrich Adolph (Fritz) Reese
Born: Heiden, Borken, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
DOB: 02 June 1852
Baptized: 13 June 1852
Lived: Heiden, Borken, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
Church: St Marien Church in Lemgo, Lippe, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany and a Lutheran Church in Heiden, Borken, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany.

Caroline Henrietta Amelia Ebert
Born: Lüerdissen, Lippe, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
DOB: 27 September 1863
Baptized: 4 Oct 1863, Lüerdissen, Lippe, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
Lived: Trophagen, Lippe, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
Church: St Marien Church in Lemgo, Lippe, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany and St Johann in Lemgo, Lippe, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany

I am looking for Birth, marriage, and immigration request records. My cousin said he found them in the Personal Archives in the Village of Detmold.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.

I am posted this in German too.

Ich suche Hilfe bei der Suche, die Aufzeichnungen über meine Verwandten in Deutschland suchen. Ich habe Kirchen, Gemeinde-Archive und das Standesamt gesucht. Ich weiß, die Aufzeichnungen existieren, weil mein Cousin fand sie im Jahr 1982, als er Deutschland besuchte im Jahr 1982. Leider hat er sich auf die Dokumente übergeben wurden verloren. Jede Hilfe wird gebeten. Wenn jemand wohnt in Lemgo und kann helfen.

Ich habe weitere Informationen aber für den Anfang werde ich meine Großeltern posten:

Fredrich Henrich Adolph (Fritz) Reese
Geboren: Heiden, Borken, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Deutschland
Geburtsdatum: 2. Juni 1852
Getauft: 13. Juni 1852
Lebte: Heiden, Borken, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Deutschland
Kirche: Kirche St. Marien in Lemgo, Lippe, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Deutschland und einer lutherischen Kirche in Heiden, Borken, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Deutschland.

Caroline Henrietta Amelia Ebert
Geboren: Lüerdissen, Lippe, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Deutschland
Geburtsdatum: 27 September 1863
Getauft: 4. Oktober 1863, Lüerdissen, Lippe, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Deutschland
Lebte: Trophagen, Lippe, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Deutschland
Kirche: Kirche St. Marien in Lemgo, Lippe, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Deutschland und St Johann in Lemgo, Lippe, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Deutschland

Ich bin für Geburt, Heirat und Einwanderung Anfrage Datensätzen suchen. Mein Cousin sagte, er fand sie in den persönlichen Archiven im Dorf Detmold.

Jede Hilfe wird gebeten.

Danke.

Ich bin dies in deutscher Sprache geschrieben zu.

Lippe Detmold, Germany Geographical DNA Project

altieman1 — 2012-03-12 16:35:03Z

The scope and purpose of this Geographical DNA Project is to offer help to those reseachers who can either trace their ancestral roots to, or currently live in what was the former Principality of Lippe. Although there is a German DNA Project, the Lippe Detmold Project is designed to offer a more confined geographical area of research. Currently Lippe consist of roughly 481 square miles, this is walking distance. I originally started a DNA SURNAME PROJECT, which I still administer. Due to the German practice of changing surnames with the transfer of real-estate, either by purchase or inheritance through a female spouse, this project made sense to me. Historically Lippe has existed as a country since 1123 and was once an independent state within the Holy Roman Empire,later, it was incorporated into Prussia. Lippe was elevated to the satus of Principality from 1789 to 1949, it is now part of the state North Rhein-Westphalia. In the 19th Century 20,000 people from Lippe emigrated to the the Americas, mostly to the United States and Canada. Those of you, who want to join, please contact; Al Tieman at altieman@gmail.com

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/LippeDetmoldDE/

Klaas Family

altieman1 — 2012-03-08 17:23:33Z

I am Looking for the Ancestors & Male Descendants of: JOHANN DIETRICH KLAAS,Born circa 1707, in Fromhausen, Lippe; Christ. Circa 1707, Evangelish Kirche, Heilgenkirchen, Lippe; Married to ANNE MARIE CATHERINE GROTHE ( Born circa 1709, Fromhausen, Lippe; Died 26 MAr 1795, Kohlstädt, Lippe )circa 1730, Evangelish Kirche, Heilgenkirchen, Lippe; Died 27 Jun 1787, Kohlstädt, Lippe.

Had son: JOHANN HEINRICH KLAAS I: Born 5 Jul 1733, Fromhausen, Lippe; Christ, 19 Jul 1733, Evangelish Kirche, Heilgenkirchen, Lippe; Married to ANNE MARLENA BARBARA WULFKUHLE ( B. 11 SEP 1725, Kohlstädt, Lippe; C. 23 Sep 1725, Evangelish Kirche, Schlangen, Lippe; D. 21 Feb 1788, Kohlstädt, Lippe )Circa 1754, Evangelish Kirche, Schlangen, Lippe; Died 20 Jan 1791, Kohlstädt, Lippe.

He had sons:
JOHANN HERMANN CONRAD KLAAS; B. 3 Jul 1760, Lippe; C. 6 Jul 1760, Evangelish Kirche, Schlangen, Lippe; M. 31 OCT 1784 to CLARA ANNE MARGARETTE JÜRGENS at Evangelish Kirche, Schlangen, Lippe; ( This line femaled out, his sons didn't survive, his daughters descendants migrated to the United States)
JOHANN CHRISTOPH HEINRICH KLAAS-TIEMANN: B. 21 JUL 1863, Lippe; C. 24 JUL 1763, Evangelish Kirche, Schlangen, Lippe; D. 5 May 1831, Kohlstädt, Lippe; 7 Jan 1802 bought the Tiemann place at #50 Kohlstädt, Lippe & changed his Surname to Tiemann; M. 28 FEB 1796, at Evangelish Kirche, Schlangen, Lippe to JOHANNE CHRISTINE BRÜNTROP ( B. Circa 1765, Lippe: D. after 1865?, Lippe. ( This is my family, oldest son moved to Fayette Co.Texas in 1846, youngest daughter married a Schapeler from Staplelage, Lippe & after his death moved to Bates Co. Missouri in 1867 with her 3 sons, one of his grandsons thru his 2nd son moved to Fayette Co. Texas about 1861. I have most of this already.)

JOHNN HEINRICH KLAAS II; B. Mar. 1766 Lippe: M. 28 Aug 1788, Evangelish Kirche, Schlangen, Lippe, to ANNE AMALIE HAGEMEISTER. ( I do not know what happened to this family, I cannot find them after their marriage. Did they also migrate or what? This is a line that is very important to me as i would like to find some living male descendants for my DNA SURNAME PROJECT.)

Franz Arnold Sauerlaender, Evangelisch,Blomberg,Lippe

DarleneNutt84 — 2012-03-04 00:58:29Z

Hi.....

On LDS, it has a listing for -

Henriette Sophie Sauerlaender Baptism/Christening Date: 02 Feb 1817 Baptism/Christening Place: EVANGELISCH,BLOMBERG,LIPPE,GERMANY
Father's Name: Franz Arnold Sauerlaender
Mother's Name: Johanne Sophie Feuerrigel

Notice the mother's maiden name is 'Feuerrigel'.

There was a family that left Germany & went to Seaford Town, Jamaica on the ship Olbers Dec.,1835. In the list of 1 Jan., 1836 was a family as follows -

Sourlender - Arnold (age 58)
Sourlender - Henrietta (age 5)
Sourlender - Henry (age 16)
Sourlender - Woman (age 48)
Sourlender - William (age 10)

I'm wondering IF the girl listed above in LDS Henriette Sophie Sauerlaender Baptism/Christening Date: 02 Feb 1817 Baptism/Christening Place is the dau. of Arnold & Henrietta Sourlender that went to Jamaica on the Olbers Dec., 1835

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Darlene
p.s. notice there are some variations in the spelling of these surnames such as Sauerlaender/Sourlender/Feuerrigel/Feuerriegel to name a couple