Thank you again so much. I can't tell you how helpful this has been. I have a record showing him getting married in Berching in 1807, so maybe he was married twice or it's something else. Wow, so the parents were 3rd degree blood relatives, like an uncle marrying his niece? Must have been less strange back then! Again thanks so much. I'm going to be visiting Germany this summer and your help on this and the Minster branch is going to make the trip that much more worthwhile!