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Grell family in Keisd/Saschiz

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Grell family in Keisd/Saschiz

Posted: 12 May 2008 12:44PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Grell, Fograscher, Zekeli, Gutkowski, Scheel, Ehrmann, Clemens
My grandfather, John Grell, was born in 1881 in Keisd. His
father was Michael and mother ? Ehrman. Below is what info I have from an old file in my computer. I do have some updates from Margarete, daughter of Hilda Gutkowski.

I visited Transylvania in August of 2006 with the ATS trip from Cleveland, but since I had recently injured my knee, I was unable to do the walking to the cemetery in Keisd, as I had hoped. Time factor didn't help either.

I have since learned that the church records are held by the bishop in Schassburg/Sighisoara, but I would like to know if anyone has an address or email address so that I might submit my information to them to locate some of the missing information. The other question I have is, how do you correctly address something being sent to Romania? Here it is
name,
address,
city state zip code

While I spent several hours in Keisd, I learned that some Fograscher/Grell descendants still lived there, but they were not at home while I was there. I also learned that some of their relatives in Germany would be visiting in the next couple of days. Guess my timing was really off for that trip.

I have learned that my grandfather came here in 1905/06 (but can't locate through which port - definitely not Ellis Island), lived in an area of Cleveland with a Mike Grell ( can't determine if he was a brother or a cousin). Married in March 1906, returned to Europe with his wife and daughter, between 12/1907 and 11/1909. Had two additional children there. Returned to Ohio after 9/1911, but unsure when. Have him purchasing land in January 1914. Had another child in August 1914. He returned to Europe again at some point, because I had a shipping tag dated 1917. But I don't know if it was just him or the whole family that returned to Europe. Next child was born in 1923 and then one in 1926 and city directory records place him here in 1923. I have no idea where the family was between 1914-1923, except that I think mother and children were here in rental property on a farm in what is currently suburbs. No records have been found yet to prove where they were.

There is another Grell family in the area, descended from I belive that Mike Grell that was listed in the 1906 directory. Talking with descendants of him, they don't know much of their family history either. But they do know he was from Keisd as well and was a little older than John. Their family also has marriages to Fograschers as well. I have to presume that they are related as well. I also know that supposedly we are realted to the Knall family - cousins - but even their line here in Cleveland cannot confirm any connections.

It is also rumored in my family that because my grandmother was Catholic, that that fact may have separated my grandfather from his family. When talking with the Mike Grell descendant, she also told me of an uncle of hers that no one in her family communicated with, because he had also married a Catholic woman.

She also stated that her grandparents rarely talked about connections with family in Europe and my older cousins haven't been able to shed any light on family history either. My one cousin did mention that grandpa talked about the terracing of land, the rolling hills, and the good farmland that was in his village. On my trip, that was very evident. It was great to view the land where he lived and experience the view of the fortress of Keisd overlooking his village. I got to see something that he viewed growing up.

If anyone can supply me with some information or fill in any of the blanks below - THANKS IN ADVANCE!


Judy Gilson
Descendants of Mike Grell

1 Mike Grell b: Abt. 1860
.. +? Ehrman b: Abt. 1860
2 Dorothy Grell b: Bet. 1880 - 1884 +John Scheel
.. 3 John Scheel b: Abt. 1896
...... +?
.... 4 ? Scheel
.... 4 ? Scheel
.... 4 ? Scheel
.... 4 ? Scheel
.. 3 Andy Scheel b: Aug 23, 1897 in Romania d: Dec 26, 1982 in , Cuyahoga, OH
...... +Katherine Herberth b: Dec 18, 1901 in Cleveland
.... 4 Dorothy M. Scheel b: 1924
........ +? Szabo
.... 4 Andrew Arnold Scheel b: Jul 19, 1935 in Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH d: Nov 28, 1989
........ +Katherine "Katy" Dietrich b: Abt. 1940 m: 1959
.. 3 Michael Scheel b: Abt. 1898
...... +?
.... 4 ? Scheel
.... 4 ? Scheel
.... 4 ? Scheel
.... 4 ? Scheel
.. 3 Dorothea "Dorothy Dora" Scheel +?
.... 4 ? ?
.... 4 ? ?
.... 4 ? ?
.... 4 ? ?
2 Sarah Grell b: Bet. 1882 - 1885 +Andy Zekeli
.. 3 ? Zekeli
.. 3 ? Zekeli
.. 3 ? Zekeli
.. 3 ? Zekeli
2 Susan Grell b: Bet. 1883 - 1886 in Keisd,Hungary
.... +Rudolf Gutkowski
.. 3 Alfred Gutkowski
...... +?
.... 4 ? Gutkowski
.... 4 ? Gutkowski
.... 4 ? Gutkowski
.... 4 ? Gutkowski
.. 3 Rudolf Gutkowski
...... +?
.... 4 ? Gutkowski
.... 4 ? Gutkowski
.... 4 ? Gutkowski
.... 4 ? Gutkowski
.. 3 Hilda Gutkowski b: 1912
...... +?
.... 4 Michael ?
........ +?
.... 4 Margarete ?
........ +?
.. 3 Susanna Gutkowski
...... +?
.... 4 ? ?
.... 4 ? ?
.... 4 ? ?
.... 4 ? ?
2 Katherine Grell b: Abt. 1884 inDeutschkreutz +John Fograscher b: in KAIST, Hungary 3 ? Fograscher
.. 3 ? Fograscher
.. 3 ? Fograscher
.. 3 ? Fograscher
2 John Grell b: Apr 04, 1881 in Keisd, Austria, H d: Jun 21, 1958 in Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH
.... +Katherine "Katherine Kraus(e)" Kraussb: Mar 13, 1883 in Beschinova, Austria, Hungary m: Mar 25, 1906 in Elyria, Lorain, OH d: Dec 02, 1932 in Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH
.. 3 Katherine Grell b: Dec 11, 1907 in OH +Herman M Jirberg b: Dec 01, 1899 in 3 Susan Grell b: Nov 12, 1909 in Austria,
...... +John Anthony Weber b: Sep 15, 1906 in
.. 3 Margaret Grell b: Sep 29, 1911 .. +Lester John Stephens b: Feb 18, 1899 in
.. 3 Micahel Grell b. August 1914
+Eveyln Codrington b Feb 24, 1918 in
3 George Grell b: Sep 01, 1923 in
...... +Mary Margaret Mahoney b: Jul 08, 1915 in
.. 3 Jeanette Grell b: Jul 15, 1926 in
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