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Re: want to know where my grandparents are from

Mighthelp — 2013-05-22 23:48:34Z

As per Ellis Island, there is a Petro Wojtkow, 41, arriving on the Kroonland via Antwerp, 11/30/1909. He was heading to N. Alexandria, to his brother-in-law's (Iwan Starenczak). Manifest shows him coming from Rudenka??? Lists leaving wife Karolina.

Re: Help Reading City Name

4N8WP — 2013-05-22 18:33:46Z

Jerry,

Thank you! That was really helpful and now I feel like I have a starting point for my search. Also, thanks for the tip on the Catholic records. I know that my Pinino relatives were Lutheran and, most likely, the Ratz family was, too.

My Great-Great-Grandmother (Wentland) Ratz, had two sisters who settled in Canada, but I do not know where. One married a man named Miller and the other a man named Ferdnant.

Again, thank you for the help and I wish you all the best in your own searches.

Robin

Re: Searching for a town in Podolia called Dunovitz

pickerintherye — 2013-05-22 16:53:27Z

Memorial erected by Dinovitzer

http://www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/hm-dunayevtsy-nm.htm

Re: Bohok /Bohouk / Halashin / Halazon

JRzMom — 2013-05-22 12:02:05Z

Possibly in St. Anne's in Albany, NY but I have to verify.

Re: Family names search

Mighthelp — 2013-05-22 01:47:08Z

Locality/Town: LVOV
Powiat/County: LVOV
Wojewodztwo/Province: LVOV
Country: UKRAINE
Archive Name: JEWISH HISTORICAL INSTITUTE (WARSAW, POLAND)
Archive Locale: WARSAW
Archive Type: JEWISH HIST. INSTITUTE
Document Type: IMMIGRATION
Year List: 1929-1939 (POLISH ALIJAH PASSPORTS TO PALESTINE)
Zespol/Sygnatura: 115

Locality/Town: LVOV
Powiat/County: LVOV
Wojewodztwo/Province: LVOV
Country: UKRAINE
Archive Name: JEWISH HISTORICAL INSTITUTE (WARSAW, POLAND)
Archive Locale: WARSAW
Archive Type: JEWISH HIST. INSTITUTE
Document Type: HOLOCAUST
Year List: 1939-1945
Zespol/Sygnatura: 2; 301/18, 39, 4098, 131, 258, 260, 278, 329, 336, 339, 344, 362, 418, 432,
442, 444, 452, 453, 458, 463, 476, 482, 527, 594, 595, 605, 615, 626, 673, 680, 681, 692, 693, 770,
771, 785, 800, 801, 806, 808, 810, 831, 833, 847, 848, 851, 853, 857, 858

Jewish Historical Institute
ul. Tlomackie 3/5
Warszawa 00-090 Poland
Tel: 48/22/827-9221; Fax: 48/22/827-8372
e-mail: http://www.jewishinstitute.org.pl/en/kontakty/index/0.html
www.jewishinstitute.org.pl
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Re: Family names search

Mighthelp — 2013-05-22 01:38:02Z

http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/town/lwow.htm

Re: Looking for Gorkiewicz records.

Mighthelp — 2013-05-22 01:25:00Z

Keep in mind that by 1948 most of the Polish minority, who had not been sent to Kazakhstan, Siberia or to the Donbas Mines, was resettled to Poland.

50 Boryskewycz living in Ukraine. Following are still living in selo/village.

Борискевич А. М. 62 года т.Єзупіль, Куклівська
Борискевич А. М. 62 года т.Єзупіль, Стуса
Борискевич В. Я. 25 лет т.Єзупіль, Василя стуса
Борискевич О. М. 49 лет т.Єзупіль, Стуса
Борискевич У. Я. 27 лет т.Єзупіль, Василя стуса
Борискевич Я. В. 52 года т.Єзупіль, Стуса

32 Gorkiewycz = Горкевич living in Ukriane. None listed in village. Maybe I am mispelling it??? A small handful can be found in selo Snizhne > Donetska oblast. These were probably sent as slave laborers to Donbas mines and did not return to their places of origin. I have no way of knowing whether these are members of your clan.

I am having a problem getting a listing for Магновський /Mahnovsky = Magnowski, but Google does show several still living in the village. I forgot that I am using a Russian site and needed to drop soft sign. 9 are listed in UA. 3 are in village.

Магновский А.В. 80 лет (age) т.Єзупіль, Степана бандери
Магновский В. В. 29 лет т.Локачі (Lokachi >Vohlyn region)
Магновский В. 61 год Україна/м київ, Мончеського (Kyiv)
Магновский В. М. 24 года т.Єзупіль, Беренди
Магновский В.А. 54 года т.Локачі (Lokachi >Vohlyn region)
Магновский И. Й. 45 лет Галич(Halych, district seat in Ivano-Frankivska oblast/region)
Магновский К. М. 42 года Івано-франківськ
(Ivano-Frankivsk, regional capital)
Магновский М.В. 56 лет т.Єзупіль, Степана бандери

Following is a social link for Yan (Jan) Magnovsky. He was born in Jezupil. Finished school in 2004. Sign on. Contact him, using English or BING TRANSLATOR Ukrainian. Remember to keep your sentences as simple as possible , when using any online translator. Helps avoid confusion.
http://vk.com/id71317984
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Resettlement and Repatriation of Ethnic Poles
http://www.halgal.com/pur_home.html

Polish Repatriation Records

Mighthelp — 2013-05-21 22:51:06Z

Notice Language Preference - Top Left
http://baza.archiwa.gov.pl/sezam/?l=&mode=search&wor...=

Once you have located surviving family and might consider traveling to Ukraine and Poland, I can recommend a professional personal travel guide and interpreter. He was a teacher in Poland for a few yrs. Today he lives in Vohlyn region. He is fluent in Ukrainian, Polish, Russian and English. Rates are very fair. If you cannot travel there, he can visit your ancestral village and videotape any surviving family and original homesteads on your behalf. Contact me via email if interested.

Re: Bohok /Bohouk / Halashin / Halazon

Mighthelp — 2013-05-21 15:20:11Z

I have just started to scour Belarusyn Telephone Directories, hitting many of the places that were contained within Minsk uezd/county> Minskaya gubernia/region> Czarist Russia. The surname (or variant) does not show up in Minsk proper.

Closest surnames to Bohok are Bohuk (found loads of these in Bobruisk). So far have seen NO BOHOK. Another variant that might be of interest is Bohovkov???? This is also not a common surname.
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Where was Tekla's daughter baptized? What Upstate Church?

Re: Help Reading City Name

JerryFrank59 — 2013-05-21 14:42:00Z

Would have responded sooner but I have been off the Forum for our Canadian long weekend. The place you are looking for is almost certainly Brzezie. Since Ratz is Germanic, you will most likely be looking for Lutheran records. The good news is that records are available. The bad news is that at least some are only in the Archive in Wloclawek.

Pinino and Brzezie are both located in the Nieszawa Lutheran Parish, the records of which are in the Archive. We hope that the Nieszawa Lutheran records will be among those that become available online during the rest of this year.

I know for certain that there were Ratzes in this region as I have been on the search for possible Steinke / Kreutz connections there. In Catholic records, I found the marriage record of Michael Steinke to Euphrosine Ratz. That family eventually settled near Emerson, Manitoba. Lutherans were obligated to register at a Catholic Church if there was no Lutheran one close enough to do it.

Details of all available Lutheran Parish records in Russian Poland can be found at

https://sggee.org/research/parishes/church_parishes/Lutheran...

Jerry Frank

Re: Searching for a town in Podolia called Dunovitz

JewUA_org — 2013-05-21 10:43:19Z

Do you have a contacts of "Dinawitzer Fraternal Society in New York City" ? Of course if it exist till now...

Re: Searching for a town in Podolia called Dunovitz

JewUA_org — 2013-05-21 10:39:06Z

http://jewua.org is my web-site and I updated Dunaevtsy article yesterday and add some photos and places

Can you make a photo of "Dunovitz My Hometown" book and sent it to vibu@jewua.org ?
Such books contain unique information about pre-Holocaust and pre-revolution period and I hope use it for http://jewua.org/dunayevtsy/ article

Thanks in advance!

Re: Bohok /Bohouk / Halashin / Halazon

Mighthelp — 2013-05-20 13:36:07Z

Zlateca, that is an exc guess. I got stuck on Nart Stary, which is in Poland today.

Thank you for your help.

I did find two Halaszyn (Галашин in Ukrainian, pronounced as HA-LA-SHIN) listed in the Nastasiv Telephone Directory, so your guess is indeed a very viable possibility.

Галашин В.М. Тернопільський район, Настасів (0352) 498098
Галашин Г.Г. Тернопільський район, Настасів (0352) 498137

photo from selo/village Nastasiv
http://foto.te.ua/photos/1027/3/f/37ee7f4a2eb714b0da13676828...
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I did some additional checking.

Today there are 96 Halaszyn living in Ukraine. Most look to be concentrated in the Ternopil region.

Following are the ones listed as living in Nastasiv:
Галашин А. Г. 79 лет с.Настасів, Загороди
Галашин А. Н. 69 лет с.Настасів, Невідома
Галашин Б. А. 21 год с.Настасів, Невідома
Галашин В. М. 77 лет с.Настасів, Невідома
Галашин В. И. 34 года с.Настасів, нев. Загороди
Галашин Г. И. 39 лет с.Настасів, нев. Загороди
Галашин Е. А. 79 лет с.Настасів, Невідома
Галашин И. И. 76 лет с.Настасів, нев. Загороди
Галашин К. Т. 84 года с.Настасів, нев. Загороди
Галашин М. Ю. 53 года с.Настасів, нев. Вургуна
Галашин Н. А. 24 года с.Настасів, Невідома
Галашин О. И. 32 года с.Настасів, нев. Невідома
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LDS has filmed some very old (1835-1845) GC Church Registers for Nastasiv:
https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/1479024

In order to bridge the gap, you will need local help. Ihor Voronchak is a Ternopil region native son. His rates are very fair. voronchak@ukr.net

Re: Bohok /Bohouk / Halashin / Halazon

JRzMom — 2013-05-20 11:00:34Z

Great leads. Hadn't realized that Tekla (Tess) had been naturalized. That is a great place to start. Have very little info on Kusma. He likely changed his name or died soon after arriving. I think I have the most difficulty with the names being spelled in so many different ways. I also suspected that Nikolai and Samuel were the same person. My fiance's mother knew very little about him as she was young when he died. All good stuff! Thanks!

Re: Bohok /Bohouk / Halashin / Halazon

JRzMom — 2013-05-20 10:56:09Z

Thank you so much! You have given me a lot to work with.

Re: Searching for a town in Podolia called Dunovitz

pickerintherye — 2013-05-20 02:38:50Z

The following site has a small history about Dunovitz or Dinavitz. I too have a copy of the book by Scharfstein as my grandfather came from this town and was a member of the Dinawitzer Fraternal Society in New York City until his death. He is also buried in a section of a cemetery purchased by the Dinavitzers that contains a monument to the Martyrs that perished in the Holocaust.

http://jewua.org/dunayevtsy/

Re: Bohok /Bohouk / Halashin / Halazon

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-05-19 18:49:14Z

Tekla's place of birth
Nastasiv, Nastasov populated place
49°26' N 25°31' E

E M U G

Ukraine
232.6 miles WSW of Kyyiv 50°26' N 30°31' E

http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100
http://www.mapywig.org/m/wig100k/A51_B41_(Z._6._K._XXXIII.)_... top of the map A 50 Tarnopol B 41 down to NASTASOW.

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/200e/43-49.jpg
small 10 on top of the map

Re: Bohok /Bohouk / Halashin / Halazon

Mighthelp — 2013-05-19 16:47:14Z

Nikolaj at some point became Samuel Bohok. Looks like he died 10/9/1929 at 33 yrs old from tuberculosis. Tesi (nee Tekla Halaszyn from Galicia - lists her father, Paul) died at 50. She was naturalized: record 2-809388 11/22/1940. That might help w/her village name. The one on manifest, Nartasor, is very poorly transliterated (sounds like). Nikolaj and Tekla lost 8 yr old son, Peter, to drowning.

(FYI death records indicate heart disease for many in this family.)

Is there any family history about Kusma/Kuzma, the father dob appx 1878??? Did he change his name as well?

Kusma (34) and his son, Nikolaj (14) were heading for Jersey City**. They arrived in NY 3/23/1912. They were emigrating from Minsk (today Belarus) > Czarist Russia. THEY HAD TO BE TRAVELING W/RUSSIAN PASSPORTS. Russian Consular Records might help clarify specifically where in the Minsk gubernia/region they were both born. Although you do not know exact place of origin, you might be able to pick up something using Soundex. Carefully read instructions. https://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermai...

***Have you looked into other Bohok in NJ?

Re: Radekhivskij raion

Mighthelp — 2013-05-19 16:14:11Z

Moroz is a very common surname in Ukraine. Currently there are 65,000 Moroz residing in Ukraine. Surname means FROST.

Selo/village Roz-zha-liv (Розжалів in Ukrainian), founded in 1456, still exists today as a cluster village (w/Andreyevka)> Radekhiv(skij) raion/district***> Lviv(ska) oblast/region > Ukraine , latest zip 80211. Population 1,070. Bilostik River runs thru the village.

****From late 18th century to 1918 under Austro-Hungarian domain, it was officailly called wies/village ROZDZALOW> Sokal was both powiat (adm district - county)and gmina (judicial-tax district)> Lemberg/Lwow/Lviv region >Historic Galicia Province, administered by ethnic Poles for the Austrian Emperors. During the Interwar Period under Reconstituted Poland's domain, it stayed the same, until after WW2 under the Soviets, the district was assigned to Radekhiv and village was called by its Ukrainian name.

In order to avoid confusion, best to research church registers and get all direct family names straight. LDS has filmed GC Church Records for your ancestral village for 1784-1909. https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/1457842

If you have no exp researching LDS Films, there are some exc how-to tutorials in following link. This is an invaluable resource for anyone researching their Galician roots. http://www.halgal.com/vitalrecords.html

Re: Bohok /Bohouk / Halashin / Halazon

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-05-19 14:08:48Z

http://www.jewishgen.org/communities/loctown.asp
Minsk, Myensk, Myenyesk capital of a political entity
53°54' N 27°34' E

E M U G

Belarus
0.0 miles N of Minsk 53°54' N 27°34' E

http://archives.gov.by/eng/

https://familysearch.org

Was Nikolai naturalized citizen? He married in US so his church marriage record should provide you with some information.

Could this be Tekla's NY EI arrival manifest to America?
Halaszyn, Tekla Nartasor, Galicia 16 1898 1914

www.halgal.com

Bohok /Bohouk / Halashin / Halazon

JRzMom — 2013-05-19 10:40:53Z

i am researching my fiance's family tree. Found Nikolai (b1889)and Kusma Bohok (b1878)arriving from Minsk, Russia via Liverpool to NYC but cannot find any other record prior to their arrival in NY on 23 Mar 1912. I subscribed to the international search on Ancestry.com but there seems to be very little coming out of Russia. Can anyone offer suggestions of where I should try next? I found the Albany Rural Cemetary records (Menands, NY) for Nikolai's wife Tekla (Tess) Halashin (or Halazon) (b 19 Feb 1901 in Ukraine - d 24 Sep 1950)but nothing else. I am truly stumped!

Radekhivskij raion

coolmayer — 2013-05-19 01:25:27Z

Need information on the village of Rozzhaliv which was Rozdzallow during the Austro-Hungarian period. Surname search for Moroz.

old phonebooks posted online

veranmiller — 2013-05-18 17:46:31Z

I found a great website with old Ukrainian phonebooks.

Check it out at http://genealogyindexer.org/directories/

The website also has directories from Russia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Belarus, in addition to former Eastern Block countries and other western and eastern European countries.

Vera
Find Lost Russian & Ukrainian Family
http://lostrussianfamily.wordpress.com/

Re: CHAUSZCZ / CHAUSIC ANCESTRY "HELP !!!"

Mighthelp — 2013-05-18 16:54:55Z

Ukrainian Military Records???

I am not sure what you mean? Ukraine had not existed as an geopolitical entity up until 1918. That lasted a big five minutes. Both what is East and West Ukraine had been under the Austrian, Russian and Polish boot for a long time. The lands that are Ukraine today were referred to as the Breadbasket of Europe and the loamy soil that is found there, was the treasure that held the interest of neighboring aggressors like Poland, Russia and Germany (including Austria, which was Germanic) for hundreds of yrs.

If you are referring to muster rolls for the Austro-Hungarian Military, they can be elusive. LDS has filmed the copies that might be available. You need the powiat (county) records. That is where the conscription took place. As far as the Austrian Military Archives in Vienna are concerned, archivists there claim that these records were turned over to the appropriate country archives and are no longer in their possession.

Re: CHAUSZCZ / CHAUSIC ANCESTRY "HELP !!!"

arlenelukas — 2013-05-17 22:05:35Z

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. We had a new addition to the family that stole my heart, and attention.
I'm also sorry that I haven't any good news. My sister-in-law has no additional information for me. So it seems we've hit a dead end. My mother-in-law and father-in-law are deceased and so the possibility of getting anything additional is nil.
Such a shame!

Regards, Arlene Lukas-Blonski

Re: Help identifying grandmother's birthplace Sokal

Mighthelp — 2013-05-17 15:13:47Z

It is your determination that is paying off.

Mighthelp - Hania - Hannia

Re: Jędzierowski Zbaraz

Mighthelp — 2013-05-17 15:03:45Z

I will assume that you already know following, but I am including this just in case you don't:
http://www.zbarazgenealogia.com/resettledpoles.html

http://books.google.com/books/about/Wspomnienia_zbaraskie_i_...
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LDS has copied RC Church Registers for Zbaraz = Zbarazh, the county seat up until WW2. (1732-1946)
https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/259691

If you have never researched LDS Films before, please see following for how-to tutorials:
http://www.halgal.com/vitalrecords.html
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Where are you located?
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There are still Matvijchuk and Romanchuk living in & near Zbarazh :

Матвійчук П Ф Тургенєва вул.
Матвійчук І І Галицького Д. вул.
Матвійчук З С Горбачевського І. вул.
Матвійчук І Ф Рильського М. вул.
Матвійчук Ф К Пушкіна вул.
Матвійчук О А Заводська вул.
Матвійчук А І Вишнівець, Богуна І. вул.
Матвійчук Г І Діброва, (village Dibrova)

Романчук О І Базаринці, (village Bazarynt)
Романчук В І Франка І. вул.
Романчук Г І 780-річчя Збаража вул.
Романчук В М Галицького Д. вул.
Романчук О З Молодіжна вул.
Романчук В М Грушевського М. вул.
Романчук О В Залужжя, (village Zaluzhya)
Романчук Л М Грушевського М. вул.
Романчук І О Грушевського М. вул.
Романчук О П Грушевського М. вул.
Романчук М М Заруддя, (village Zarudia)

I can recommend a researcher, who is fluent in Ukrainian, Polish, Russian and English. He comes with superlative references and is very good at locating any surviving family. dorosh.andriy@yahoo.com

Looking for Gorkiewicz records and surnames in the area of Yezupil .

barcuk — 2013-05-17 15:00:24Z

Hi,

I am looking for birth records, property records, church records, or military records for my family surname Gorkiewicz. My great grandfather was the first to leave Jesupol in 1909.

Johann Gorkiewicz.
Born: 1878

Married to Katarzyna Magnowska dob: 1880 approx. (Magnowski also from Jezupol)

Four Children:
Anna Dob: 1898, Stefania dob: 1903, Walter dob: 1910,
Joseph (born in USA dob: 1916)

Last known town; Iyezupol’, Jesupol, Jezupol, Yezupol’, Yezupul’, Zhovten’, Yezupil’
49°02' N 24°47' E

Sibling: Tekla,married to Olexa Boriskiewicz (or Boryskiewicz) also from Jezupol.

Olexa arrived with Johann in New York in 1909.

Thank you in advance.

Sasha (Bud) Gurkweitz

Jędzierowski Zbaraz

carloj9 — 2013-05-17 13:07:07Z

Hello,
is there any chance to get as much as possible of informations about family Jędzierowski from Zbaraz?
My grandgrandfather was Stanisław Jedzierowski (born 02.03.1906), his wife was Maria Matwijczuk). Parents of Stanisław were Andreas/Andrzej Jędzierowski (has at least 3 sisters: Antonina, Franciszka and Agata) and Katarzyna/Catharina Romanczuk, Andrzej's parents were Antoni Jędzierowski and Rosaliae Stocka. I'm looking for any documents, pictures, birth or death notes of them, they borthers, sisters, uncles, parents etc.

If You don't have any of these informations please give me contact to persons who can help me.

Regards,
Karol Jędzierowski

Re: Help identifying grandmother's birthplace Sokal

paperandink — 2013-05-17 05:52:11Z

Thank you. Right now, I wish to keep opening doors into my Ukrainian ancestral past. :D

Truly, you are helping to bring much joy and peace to so many families. Certainly, you have been an answered wish for me. Along with Laurence, ZlaticaBeca, and Andriy. Feeling very blessed to have found you all and answers to long-held family mysteries. Now I can answer the question, "Where exactly in Ukraine is your family from?"

~Kim

Re: Help Reading City Name

Mighthelp — 2013-05-16 23:49:12Z

???
Sielischtsche (Male Siedliszcze/N of Krynychky), Kostopil, Rivne, Ukraine
504855
263655
N of
Кринички
Sielischtsche (Sieliszcze/SE of Chornyzh), Manevychi, Volyn, Ukraine
510130
255445
SE of
Чорниж

Vohlyn Gazetteer
https://www.sggee.org/research/village_maps.html

Re: Help Reading City Name

4N8WP — 2013-05-16 23:00:15Z

Thank you for your help and kind words. I really wish that I had more substantial documentation about their home city/country. I'm not quite on solid ground yet!

Today, I went back to the passenger list and was excited to notice that there was a "supplement" document which corresponds to each passenger (I knew I should have turned the page!!). For each member of the Ratz family it stated:

Color - W
Country - Russia
Province - Sherlitz (Shenlitz??)
Mother Tongue - German
Subject of What Country - Russia

Attached is the document if anybody wants to take a look at it. No. 1-6 pertain to my Ratz family members.

Thanks, again!

Robin

Re: Help Reading City Name

Mighthelp — 2013-05-16 16:56:37Z

One of the things that frequently occurred after immigration, was that choice of spouse was not only made based on same ethnicity or religion, but also on commonality of same regions or same districts of origin. There was a comfort in those choices.

Zlateca and I are old hands at this kind of research and this is more often fact, than assumption.

In your case you had a relative to point you in the correct direction. That little piece of information was critical to your search. When getting started, the suggestion is to gather all and any documentation, which you have done. It is a process and you are doing very well.

Re: Looking for Gorkiewicz records.

Mighthelp — 2013-05-16 15:45:30Z

I am not sure, but I suspect you will need to examine both RC and GC Church Registers. LDS has filmed both. Start w/RC Registers.

During Soviet Era, Jezupil was called selishsche (cluster town) Zhovten. Today it is again called Єзупiль = Yezupil > Tysmenytsya raion/district> Ivano-Frankivska oblast. It is a very picturesque, but sleepy town. There is a lot of interesting history here. I can tell you that it was founded in 1597 by settlers from a place called Dukhova Krynytsia (Spiritual Spring), who were running from the Tartar slave raids. More detail & explanation of district change to come later, when I have more time.

http://drymba.net/en/map/1031269-smt-yezupil
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Title
Metrical books, 1835-1865

Authors
Greek Catholic Church. Jezupol (Halicz) (Main Author)

Notes
Microreproduction of original manuscripts at the Central State Historical Archives of Ukraine in L′viv.
Greek Catholic Church records (births, marriages, deaths) in Jezupol (Halicz), Galizien, Austria; later Jezupol (Stanisławów), Stanisławów, Poland; now Z︠H︡ovten′ (know as Chemybisy until 1594 and as I︠E︡zupil′ until 1940), Halych, Ivano-Frankivs′k, Ukraine. May include records from other villages. Text in Latin.
Record group 201, series 4A, files 372, 1495, 1813-1814.

Subjects
Austria, Galizien, Jezupol (Halicz) - Church records
Poland, Stanisławów, Jezupol (Stanisławów) - Church records
Україна, Івано-Франківськ, Галич, Жовтень - Метричні книги
Ukraine, Ivano-Frankivs′k, Halych, Z︠H︡ovten′ - Church records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Latin

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1994-1998

Physical
on 3 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Volume 201-4A/372 Births 1835 (p. 15-19) -- Marriages 1835 (p. 62-63) -- Deaths 1835 (p. 93-95) - FHL INTL Film [ 1922814 Item 10 ]
Volume 201-4A/1495 Births, marriages, deaths 1840 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1856 (p. 37-61) - FHL INTL Film [ 2083599 Item 4 ]
Volume 201-4A/1813 Births, marriages, deaths 1836-1838 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1841-1846 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1848 - FHL INTL Film [ 2159880 Item 10 ]
Volume 201-4A/1814 Births, marriages, deaths 1849-1853 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1855 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1858-1859 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1864-1865 - FHL INTL Film [ 2159880 Item 11 ]
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Title
Metrical books, 1702-1945

Authors
Roman Catholic Church. Jezupol (Halicz) (Main Author)

Notes
Microreproduction of original manuscripts at the State Archives, Warsaw, Poland; at the Archive and Library of Archbishop in Lubaczów, Poland; and at the Central State Historical Archives of Ukraine in L′viv.
Roman Catholic Church records (births, marriages, deaths) for Jezupol (Halicz), Galizien, Austria; later Jezupol (Stanisławów), Stanisławów, Poland; now Z︠H︡ovten′, Halych, Ivano-Frankivs′k, Ukraine. May include surrounding villages within the parish. Text in Latin and Polish.
Record group 618, series 2, files 1363-1369.

Subjects
Austria, Galizien, Jezupol (Halicz) - Church records
Poland, Stanisławów, Jezupol (Stanisławów) - Church records
Україна, Івано-Франківськ, Галич, Жовтень - Метричні книги
Ukraine, Ivano-Frankivs′k, Halych, Z︠H︡ovten′ - Church records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Latin
Polish

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1971-2004

Physical
on 6 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Births, marriages, deaths 1837-1853 - FHL INTL Film [ 766219 Item 17 ]
Births (Jezupol) 1785-1824 -- Marriages (Jezupol) 1785-1860 -- Deaths (Jezupol) 1785-1853 -- Births (Kołodziejówka) 1785-1875 -- Marriages (Kołodziejówka) 1804-1883 -- Deaths (Kołodziejówka) 1794-1879 -- Births (Uzin) 1785-1868 -- Marriages (Uzin) 1787-1889 -- Deaths (Uzin) 1785-1891 -- Death index 1785-1945 - FHL INTL Film [ 2006716 Items 2 - 3 ]
Marriages (Hanusowce) 1797-1876 -- Deaths (Hanusowce) 1789-1890 -- Births (Hanusowce) 1817-1864 -- Births (Sielec) 1805-1877 -- Marriages (Sielec) 1824-1880 -- Births (Hanusowce) 1788-1879 -- Births (Kozina) 1810-1878 -- Births (Ciężów) 1821-1878 -- Marriages (Jastrząbie i Kozina) 1803-1825 -- Marriages (Kozina) 1836-1879 -- Marriages (Ciężów) 1833-1867 - FHL INTL Film [ 2006716 Item 4 ]
Deaths (Kozina) 1799-1880 -- Deaths (Ciężów) 1824-1880 -- Births (Jezupol) 1798-1813 -- Marriages (Jezupol) 1813-1814 -- Deaths (Jezupol) 1798-1814 -- Births (Jezupol) 1825-1891 -- Deaths (Jezupol) 1853-1882 -- Marriages (Jezupol) 1860-1911 -- Birth index A-F 1860-1945 - FHL INTL Film [ 2006716 Items 4 - 5 ]
Birth index F-Z 1860-1945 -- Marriage index 1860-1944 - FHL INTL Film [ 2006717 Item 1 ]
Births (Jezupol) 1864-1881 -- Births (Ciężów) 1864-1873 -- Births (Hanusowce) 1864-1880 -- Births (Sielec) 1864-1881 -- Births (Kozina) 1864-1880 -- Births (Kołodziejówka) 1864-1880 -- Births (Pobereże, Branówka) 1864-1881 -- Births (Uzin) 1864-1868 -- Births (Jezupol) 1876 -- Births (Uzin) 1868-1901 -- Deaths (cała parafję) 1882-1913 - FHL INTL Film [ 2006717 Item 2 ]
Marriage banns 1886-1906 -- Marriage banns 1892-1924 -- Marriage banns 1924-1944 --Births (Jezupol) 1891-1912 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1909 -- --Births (cała parafję) 1909-1931 -- --Births (Ciężów) 1913, 1887 -- Births (cała parafję) 1914-1931 -- Marriages 1918-1925 - FHL INTL Film [ 2006717 Items 3 - 4 ]
Births (Miłowanie) 1925-1938 -- Births (Roszniów) 1925-1937 -- Births (Strychańce) 1926-1942 -- Marriages 1926 - FHL INTL Film [ 2006717 Item 5 ]
Marriages 1926-1931 -- Deaths (Strychańce) 1929-1943 -- Deaths (Roszniów) 1930 -- Births (Pobereże) 1932-1944 -- Births (Jezupol) 1932-1945 -- Births (Kozina) 1932-1944 -- Deaths (Jezupol) 1932-1945 -- Marriages (Jezupol) 1932-1944 -- Deaths (Uzin) 1932-1945 -- Births (Uzin) 1932-1944 -- Deaths (Hanusowce) 1932-1938 -- Births (Seilec) 1932-1942 - FHL INTL Film [ 2006718 Items 1 - 2 ]
Deaths (Kołodziejówka) 1932-1942 -- Deaths (Pobereże) 1932-1944 -- Marriages (Roszniów) 1932-1935 -- Births (Hanusowce) 1932-1942 -- Births (Dobrowlany) 1932-1936 -- Marriages (Uzin) 1932-1943 -- Deaths (Dobrowlany) 1933 -- Marriages (Pobereże) 1933-1941 -- Deaths (Kozina) 1933-1944 - FHL INTL Film [ 2006718 Item 3 ]
Deaths (Sielec) 1934-1943 -- Marriages (Sielec) 1934-1939 -- Deaths (Miłowanie) 1935-1936 -- Marriages (Strychańce) 1935-1943 -- Marriages (Dobrowlany) 1934-1942 -- Marriages (Kozina) 1936 -- Marriages (Kołodziejówka) 1937 -- Deaths (Ciężów) 1938 - FHL INTL Film [ 2006718 Item 4 ]
Births (draft) 1938-1944 -- Marriages (draft) 1940-1941 -- Births (foreigners and converts) 1876-1935 -- Family registers 1702-1945 - FHL INTL Film [ 2006718 Items 5 - 6 ]
Deaths 1776-1784 (Jezupol) -- Deaths 1776-1784 (Pobereże) -- Deaths 1776-1784 (Hanuszowce) -- Deaths 1776-1784 (Uzin) -- Deaths 1776-1784 (Sielec) -- Deaths 1776-1784 (Dubrowlany) -- Deaths 1776-1784 (Jastrzębiec) - VAULT INTL Film [ 2328884 Item 2 ]
Births 1837 -- Births 1841 -- Births 1843 -- Marriages 1837 -- Marriages 1841 -- Marriages 1843 -- Marriages 1853 -- Deaths 1837 -- Deaths 1841 -- Deaths 1843 - VAULT INTL Film [ 2328884 Item 3 ]
Volume 618-2/1363 Births, marriages, deaths 1816-1821 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1409719 Item 5 ]
Volume 618-2/1364 Births, marriages, deaths 1822-1828 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1409719 Item 6 ]
Volume 618-2/1365 Births, marriages, deaths 1830-1836 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1409719 Item 7 ]
Volume 618-2/1366 Births, marriages, deaths 1838-1840 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1842 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1844-1845 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1409719 Item 8 ]
Volume 618-2/1367 Births, marriages, deaths 1846-1852 -- Births, deaths 1853 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1409719 Item 9 ]
Volume 618-2/1368 Births, marriages, deaths 1854-1861 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1409719 Item 10 ]
Volume 618-2/1369 Births, marriages, deaths 1862-1865 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1409719 Item 11 ]
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If you have never examined LDS Films, following link offers exc how-to tutorials:
Halgal: Genealogy of Halychyna/Eastern Galicia
www.halgal.com/‎

Variants of surname, rooted in male given name HAWRYLO - HAVRYLO

Mighthelp — 2013-05-16 15:18:01Z

There are many, many variants of this surname in Ukrainian. I am clarifying only the ones of interest to posters in this thread.

Hawryluk - Hawrylyuk = Гаврилук-Гаврилюк. Currently 44,000 w/lyuk-liuk variant surname living in Ukraine.

Hawrylyak/liak = Гавриляк (Although rooted in same male name Hawrylo/Havrylo, the suffix iak/yak makes it a different surname.) Appx 3,300 Hawryliak living in Ukraine today.

Hawrycszak = Гаврищак. Appx 160 Hawrycszak living in Ukraine, mostly in Ternopil and general Podolia regions.

Hawrylyshyn/Hawrylyszyn = Гаврилишин. Mostly in Historic Galicia Province, w/greatest concentration in Ternopil and Lviv regions. The suffix SHYN/SZYN makes the surname distinctly Ukrainian. It is unusual, because it has a female root.
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The key is to locate the EXACT PLACE OF ORIGIN.

Best to start w/Hamburg (exit port) Immigration Records.
http://search.ancestry.com/

Ancestry Membership, even a temp one, will allow viewing the ship manifests, where the details can be invaluable.
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Understanding what and where AUSTRIA was from late 18th century to 1918. It is not today's Austria. Short read makes it easy to understand.
http://www.infoukes.com/genealogy/trac/baba.html

Re: Help Reading City Name

4N8WP — 2013-05-16 13:45:46Z

Yes, and it should also be noted that my Pinino relatives and my Brz?? relatives are from separate branches.

My G-Grandfather was from Pinino and he married my G-Grandmother, who was from Brz??, but they didn't meet until after their families had already settled in the United States (one family in WI and the other in MI). They are both Germans from Russia-Poland, but I cannot assume that there was any real connection between the families prior to their marriage.

Re: Help Reading City Name

Mighthelp — 2013-05-16 13:11:54Z

Hello Zlateca.

I would normally agree w/you re Ponino and Brzezie being places of origin, but one of the family relatives has provided us w/a major clue, Ukraine.

Many of the Wandering Wohlynian Germans did have Prussian origins and that probably serves as the cultural and social connection in this case, as opposed to the comfort of regional connection between the families from Ponino and Brz????

Re: Help Reading City Name

Mighthelp — 2013-05-16 12:59:27Z

Names like Russia/Poland and Poland Congress was and still are easier on the Polish digestive tract. Technically there was no such geopolitical entity as Poland from late 18th century to 1918. If you are interested in history for this region, I recommend reading "Bitter Glory" by Richard Watt. This is a history book written in a narrative style and offers several explanations why the Kingdom of Poland was partitioned into oblivion for appx 125+ yrs and why Western Europe deemed it necessary to be in agreement w/this partition.
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Great-Grandmother's brother listed "Ukraine" as a birthplace on a draft card.

Following is Interwar Period Reconstituted Poland's (1919-1938) place names starting w/letters BRZ in what was formerly the old Vohlynskaya gubernia > Czarist Russia. Compare these with what is available on Jerry Frank's site.

Bryszcze (I i II), Kniahininek, Łuck
Bryszcze, Młynów, Dubno
Brzegi , Werba, Włodzimierz
Brzezina, Chotiaczów, Włodzimierz
Brzezina, Dederkały, Krzemieniec
Brzezina, Diatkiewicze, Równe
Brzezina, Grzybowica, Włodzimierz
Brzezina, Kniahinin, Dubno
Brzezina, Poddębce, Łuck
Brzezina, Rafałówka, Sarny
Brzezina, Silno, Łuck
Brzezina, Włodzimierzec, Sarny
Brzeziny, Bereżce, Luboml
Brzeziny, Chotiaczów, Włodzimierz
Brzozowa Karczma, Kniahininek, Łuck
Brzozowy Gród, Kiwerce, Łuck
Brzuchowicze, Hołoby, Kowel
Brzuszków, Kostopol, Kostopol

http://www.wolyn.ovh.org/
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It is important to keep in mind when a particular document was issued. This helps w/any blurred changing borders.

Re: Help identifying grandmother's birthplace Sokal

Mighthelp — 2013-05-16 12:09:30Z

Excellent - Wishing you everything you might wish for yourself!

Re: Help identifying grandmother's birthplace Sokal

Mighthelp — 2013-05-16 12:06:02Z

My time is limited today.

Bykow probably means PLACE of BULL???

Since we have documentation, we can now eliminate the info provided by your researcher.

I suspect that Grandmother's Bykow is due west of Sokal, the district seat, and is located right over the Polish border in POLAND. This makes a lot more sense for the migratory route. Most villagers rarely migrated much beyond thirty miles of their birth villages.

Additionally, post WW2 this very immediate region saw some very major shifts in borders between Stalin's Soviet Union and Communist Poland.
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Note to self:
Zvirka absorbed 107 village populations, that were not resettled?

Re: Help Reading City Name

4N8WP — 2013-05-16 01:52:22Z

Yes, they are quite possibly Vohlynian Germans. I have done a lot of family research, but the Russia/Poland region is new to me.

Thank you for the list of villages. I think you may be on to something as my Great-Grandmother's brother listed "Ukraine" as a birthplace on a draft card.

I did recently discover the SGGEE...thank you for the referral! Their email group has been very kind and helpful.

Robin

Re: Help Reading City Name

Mighthelp — 2013-05-16 01:46:46Z

?????
Ratz Family - Vohlynian or Prussian Germans?

You should examine villages in Congress of Poland Gazetteer (Russia-Poland). I found Ponino in this list: Pinino (W of Poczalkowo), Aleksandrow Kujawski, Kujawsko-Pomorskie, Poland. Here you will also find a whole list of villages starting w/BRZ as well.
https://www.sggee.org/research/Gazetteer_Poland.pdf

I strongly suggest that you become a member at this org. A lot of the hard work has already been done here. This site was founded by Jerry Frank, expert extraordinaire, re German research in these regions. https://www.sggee.org/

Re: Help Reading City Name

4N8WP — 2013-05-16 01:26:38Z

Great suggestions. I will check these links out. Thanks!

Robin

Re: Help Reading City Name

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-05-16 01:01:57Z

4N8WP

Pinino
140 osób
woj. kujawsko-pomorskie
pow. rypiński
gmina Rogowo

osob-inhabitants
woj. wojewodztwo
pow. powiat

Brzezie
599 osób
woj. kujawsko-pomorskie
pow. włocławski
gmina Brześć Kujawski

www.maplandia.com

Re: Help Reading City Name

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-05-16 00:46:42Z

Being that the locations are in Poland, may I suggest you post a query on Poland's board. You might also go on
http://genforum.com Poland's board.

www.rootsweb.com/~polwgw/index.html
www.genealogienetz.de/reg

http://baza.archiwa.gov.pl/sezam/pradziad.php?l=en&miejs...

www.kartenmeister.com
www.familysearch.org

Re: Help Reading City Name

4N8WP — 2013-05-16 00:28:52Z

My other relatives (Reinholz/Reinhold) are from Pinino.

On this map, Pinino is located in B2. The Brzezie that I found on this same map is located in F2.

http://ipgs.us/maps/atlas1907/maps/map07.jpg

My Great-Grandfather (Edward Reinhold) is from Pinino and my Great-Grandmother (Natalie Ratz) is one of the children on this passenger list. They didn't meet until they had already been in the United States, so I can't assume that they were from the same area, but it certainly is possible.

Ultimately, I hope to figure out where the birth/marriage/death records from this part of Poland are kept so that I can learn more about all of their lives prior to arriving in the U.S.

Re: Help Reading City Name

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-05-15 23:54:27Z

You're welcome.
I too did not find a location Brzizis.
For sure lots of Brzezies in Poland. http://mapa.szukacz.pl
In which wojewodztwo is the other relatives Brzezie in?
http://www.geneteka.genealodzy.pl/

Re: Help Reading City Name

4N8WP — 2013-05-15 23:48:44Z

I could not find a city named Brzizis on any of the maps. Maybe I'm just not seeing it???

I did find a city named Brzezie, which is in Poland, but the same general region that my other relatives often referred to as Russia-Poland. I wonder if that is it??

I do not know if Joseph or his sons were naturalized, but I can look into that.

Thank you!

Re: Help identifying grandmother's birthplace Sokal

paperandink — 2013-05-15 21:06:51Z

Thank you Mighthelp and ZlaticaBeca for all of your assistance!

I found a GaliciaPoland-Ukraine board on Yahoo! Groups and also posted my document scan there. I had the name of the village translated wrong all this time! It is Byshov - 13 miles WSW of Skobelka, which is where my grandmother's family moved. This short travel distance makes more sense.

Byshev, Byshov, Byshuv, Byszów populated place 50°24' N 24°32' E E M U G Ukraine 263.2 miles W of Kyyiv

Byshov, Galicia, Austrian Empire bordered the Russian Empire/Volyn. I have attached a map detail. Byshov is the letter A.

Apparently, LDS has metrical records for this village, so I guess that will be my next step.

Thank you again for your guidance and help. I deeply appreciate it. ~Kim

Re: Help Reading City Name

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-05-15 20:53:24Z

Robin
I read the location as Brzizis

http://www.jewishgen.org/communities/loctown.asp

Would you know if the ancestors were naturalized citizen? The intent % petition will have a place of birth.

http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm