Zakarpatska - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Searching for Relatives in Chudl'ovo Gelesh, Geles, Ozimok, Csocura, Havagenic, Arimak

MaximAv — 2013-05-26 03:51:49Z

It's interesting. I remember I've helped one guy to get more information on Ozimok family in Hudlyovo/Horlyo.

Horlyo is referenced to Nizhne Solotvino in Uzhgorod archives and there are a lot of documentation.

Re: Searching for Relatives in Chudl'ovo Gelesh, Geles, Ozimok, Csocura, Havagenic, Arimak

MAGelles — 2013-05-25 17:36:59Z

Where do I find the film information?

Re: Searching for Relatives in Chudl'ovo Gelesh, Geles, Ozimok, Csocura, Havagenic, Arimak

MAGelles — 2013-05-25 17:34:09Z

I would love to see the picture of the old house. I have very little information on my grandparents family from Chudl'ovo. Would like to know more.

Re: Searching for Relatives in Chudl'ovo Gelesh, Geles, Ozimok, Csocura, Havagenic, Arimak

MAGelles — 2013-05-25 17:31:50Z

I would love to see the picture of the old house. I have very little information on my grandparents family from Chudl'ovo. Would like to know more.

Re: Babjak (Babyak); County Ung

MaximAv — 2013-05-24 04:48:41Z

Hi kika3, if you mean demographic books for Zakarpattya, they are in Uzhgorod.

I know only one example of research in Baia Mare on former Maramaros. My friend ordered it and got nothing although they listed some years for his village.

There are a lot of happy examples for Uzhgorod though.

Re: Babjak (Babyak); County Ung

Mighthelp — 2013-05-23 20:18:24Z

Kika3.

Congratulations, that is quite an accomplishment.

You are the first in many yrs that has managed to successfully start organizing materials from the Zakarpatska region, that were filmed by LDS, but not indexed, and more importantly have followed through w/the project.

There are many descendants from this region, who cannot afford the cost of direct archival research. You are performing a great service.

If you need any help w/Gazetteer details, you need only ask.
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Info that may or may not be useful:

Turn of 20th century (1900's) Muzsaly (Nagymuzsaly) was a village of 959, predominantly Hungarians. Tiszlat jaras/district (seat Beregszasz = Berehove)> Bereg megve/county > Kingdom of Hungary, Austro-Hungarian Empire. The village had its own Reform Parish. The filial GC and RC parishes were in Beregszasz. The Jewish kahal was in Bilke. Today it is called selo/village Muzhiyevo > Berehivskij raion/district > Zakarpatska oblast/region > Ukraine.

Mighthelp - Hannia - Hania

Re: Babjak (Babyak); County Ung

kika3_au — 2013-05-23 04:04:50Z

Hi Mighthelp,

There is now a reasonable body of work. About 15 films have been indexed. For a couple of films, names have been abstracted/transcribed. Documents so far reviewed tend to be written in Hungarian. The film collection is a mixture of documents:
-A lot of birth,death marriage records for areas covered by the former Munkacs diocese (Maramaros, Ung, Bereg, Zemplen, Szatmar, Szabolcs counties) but of course not a full collection (the complete sets will be in either the Berehovo archives or the Romanian Maramures archives).
-marriage records between people of differrent faiths
-correspondence regarding legality of births out of wedlock, registrations of overseas births etc (a few birth,marriage & death extracts are included
-correspondence regarding marriages between kin (second or third cousins). This material contains family tree diagrams.
-Religious census documents (not very useful for family research)
-civil registry applications to marry in the Nagy MMuszaly/Bene district. these are not marriage records per se, but the applications contain a lot of useful information.

I am halfway through setting up a website so that the material can be shared more widely. I will post a message once it is up and running.

Re: Babjak (Babyak); County Ung

Mighthelp — 2013-05-22 14:37:41Z

Kika3,

How far along are you on your indexing project?

Re: Babjak (Babyak); County Ung

kika3_au — 2013-05-20 03:19:29Z

Nyzhne Solotvyno was known as Also Szlatina by the Hungarians.
You may find Greek Catholic records information for Szlatina in teh following LDS films:

2388995 Item 37 1896 births deaths marriages
2388997 Item 16 1897 births, deaths marriages (with Orosz Kormarocz)
2377892 Item 7 1826 births
2377892 Item 7 1826 deaths
2377892 Item 7 1826 marriages

Re: Kozub, Babics, Babbich, Simon, Tijedes surnames

kika3_au — 2013-05-20 03:09:35Z

Greek catholic parish records for 1902-1903 can be found in the following LDS films:

2376464 Item 27
2377890 Item 2

Re: Kozub, Babics, Babbich, Simon, Tijedes surnames

kika3_au — 2013-05-20 03:09:17Z

Greek catholic parish records for 1902-1903 can be found in the following LDS films:

2376464 Item 27
2377890 Item 2

Re: Searching for Relatives in Chudl'ovo Gelesh, Geles, Ozimok, Csocura, Havagenic, Arimak

kika3_au — 2013-05-20 03:04:38Z

The Hungarian name for Chudliovo was Horlyo.

Film 2377892 Item 7 contains birth, marriage and death records (Greek Catholic) for Horlyo for 1826.

Re: Searching for Relatives in Chudl'ovo Gelesh, Geles, Ozimok, Csocura, Havagenic, Arimak

Catherine7275 — 2013-05-19 23:44:20Z

My mother was Irene Romanko Yesenosky, daughter of Michael and Barbara Romanko (nee Gelesh). My great-grandmothers were both named Lohin. The village of Chudliovo is very small, so the same last names are frequent. I visited in 1998 and the languages were the local dialect, Russian and to a lesser degee, Ukrainian. Since the village has been under so many countries' administration, the local dialect is preferred, especially by the older people. We had relatives named Ozimok and actually have a painting of an old village house done by one of the Ozimok family.

Kozub, Babics, Babbich, Simon, Tijedes surnames

jpkozub3841 — 2013-05-19 16:08:25Z

Looking relatives with surnames Kozub, Babics, Babbich, Simon, or Tijedes. Immigration papers say they were from Velike Komjata, Hungary (now in the Ukraine). Settled in New Salem, Fayette county, PA. GF Kozub was said to be in military and had numbers tattooed on both wrists. GM Kozub was said to swim in the river Tisza.

Re: Surname: Totin

todow10 — 2013-05-12 17:22:30Z

My grandmother's maiden name is Totin, she was from Perth Amboy, NJ. She married my grandfather, Lawrence Gruza, Sr.
Please let me know if you need more information on the family.

Kristen Gruza

Re: Major and Dovbak Families from village of Horbky

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-05-08 16:39:59Z

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/austhung.htm

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/ugocsa.jpg
right side of the margin; West of HUSZT

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/tantort/2003/palyazat/41-48_szatm...
left side; locate Tiszakeresztur and you should see Verecze and Huszt as well.

Re: Babjak (Babyak); County Ung

calagich — 2013-05-07 14:50:12Z

Your reference to "village Nyzhne Solotvyno (Lower Sweet Wine)" sparked my interest. I have been searching for any vineyards in this area. My grandmother said she used to love to go visit her paternal grandparents "up" at the vineyard. She said her grandfather was a caretaker of a big vineyard there. Her father's name was Gygory Hercsok b. Solotvyno 1876. My grandmother was 9 was she emigrated to the US in 1910. So it would have been a vineyard that was still around in the early 1900s. I've read all the stories about how the vineyards were destroyed. But wonder if there are any sources to find those that did exist during that time period (close enough for them to travel to)from Lehocz (the village next to Solotvyno)to a vineyard in that area. She said he had many people working for him. So wondered if census records would maybe show people working at a vineyard in that area during that time period.

Re: Major and Dovbak Families from village of Horbky

Mighthelp — 2013-05-07 13:26:59Z

Veryatsya (formerly called Verecze, it's Hungarian name) is the cluster village for the hamlet Horbky. The villages are located side by side. I posted a map for you to view in my first message.

There are still Major (Майор in Ukrainian) living in Verytsya (Веряця in Ukrainian).
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Where did you get Horbky, which you posted in your initial post?

Re: Major and Dovbak Families from village of Horbky

marlenemyers41 — 2013-05-04 23:03:56Z

I should have mentioned that the village that my Major and Dobok families came from was Verecze. I don't know where this is.
Marlene

Re: Major and Dovbak Families from village of Horbky

marlenemyers41 — 2013-05-04 23:00:17Z

Thank you so very much for your reply but I can not read Russian. I WILL PRINT THIS MESSAGE AND TRY TO FIND SOMEONE TO TRANSLATE.
THANKS AGAIN,
MARLENE

Re: Vojak = Вояк

Mighthelp — 2013-05-04 18:01:52Z

GGGrandmother Marya's surname, Vojak, was/is a powerful surname. It means WARRIOR.
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At the turn of the 20th century, Hluboke was officially called Melkut, its Hungarian name. It was hamlet size, consisting of 483 resdients, predominantly German, Rusyn and Slovak. The filial GC Parish was in Nagylaz (today Velyki Lazy). Both the filial RC Parish and filial Jewish kahal was in Szerednye (today Serednie). The hamlet was in Ungvar jaras/district > Ung megve/county > Kingdom of Hungary, Austro-Hungarian Empire. Today selo/village Hluboke is clustered w/selo Ruski Komarivtsi > Uzhorodskij raion/district > Zakarpatska oblast/region > Ukraine,latest zip code 89433.
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THERE ARE STILL Vojak = Вояк (in Ukranian) living in ancestral village, Hluboke. There are two listed in the village telephone directory. No Paduch = Падух in Hluboke, but surname does show up in Velyka Turya. Found no Garai = Ґарай. There are Garaida in Uzhorod??? The Babiak/Babyak = Бабяк surname does show up in Serednie and in Ruski Komarivtsi.

Records. Years may not be 100% accurate. RAHS perform no research for family trees. They provide only specific record of interest, i.e. birth certificate. Before requesting a record copy, one must obtain a PRIVACY RELEASE as per Int'l Law. This can be obtained thru your nearest Ukrainian Consulate or Embassy. Per record cost is $75USD, w/copying cost included.

Uzhorod RAHS Address:

РАЦС Ужгородського міськрайонного
управління юстиції
вул.Загорська, 10
м.Ужгород, 88000

No email address available. Telephone: 380-03122-61-53-37

Following records, although most have been filmed, have not been indexed, making it an impossible task to research thru LDS. Additionally, the Zakarpatska oblast Archives in Uzhorod does not have a good reputation for responding to direct inquiries. Best to to hire a local to perform research. If you like, I can refer someone w/exc references.

Nagyláz Veliki Lazi V. Lazy Greek Catholic B 1841-1901 Uzhorod RAHS
Szerednye Seredne Serednye Roman Catholic D 1875-1920 Uzhorod RAHS
Szerednye Seredne Serednye Roman Catholic B 1805-1874 Uzhorod RAHS
Szerednye Seredne Serednye, village, Uzhorod region Jewish D 1865-1885 Zakarpatya Oblast, synagogue metrical bks
Szerednye Seredne Serednye, village, Uzhorod region Jewish M 1887-1895 Zakarpatya Oblast, synagogue metrical bks
Szerednye Seredne Serednye, village, Uzhorod region Jewish D 1887-1895 Zakarpatya Oblast, synagogue metrical bks
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Derzhavnyi arkhiv Zakarpats'koi oblasti
State Archive of Transcarpathian Region
Address: 88005, Uzhhorod, vul. Mynais'ka, 14a (korp. 1);

Fax: 2-35-49
E-mail: archiv@uzh.ukrtel.net; Zakarchive@ukr.net

Director: M. Misiuk
Deputy Director: O. Kutashi
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IMPORTANT:

Please see news article dated May 4, 2013 re Director of Archives , Michael Misiuk. Arrested for Bribery. Copy and submit following url into Bing Translator to read translated article.
http://zakarpattya.net.ua/News/107187-Dyrektora-Zakarpatskoh...

http://www.bing.com/translator

Re: Major and Dovbak Families from village of Horbky

Mighthelp — 2013-05-04 13:44:15Z

Горбки (Horbky) means MOUNDS in Rusyn.

At the turn of the 20th century Rakospatak, the official name of hamlet, was predominantly a Rusyn hamlet of 192 residents > Tiszantul jaras/district (Bokeny was district seat, today Bobove )> Ugocsa megve/county> Kingdom of Hungary, Austro-Hungarian Empire. The filial GC & RC Parishes and filial Jewish kahal were in Kiralyhaza, today Korolevo). Today Horbky is clustered w/selo Veryatsya, w/which it shares its post ofc and village administration.

http://ukrainetown.com/ru/location/6-zakarpatskaya-oblast/14...

Church Registers available. Not sure how accurate these dates are. As per Int'l Law, RAHS inquiries must include PRIVACY RELEASE, obtained thru your nearest Ukrainian Consulate or Embassy. Keep in mind that RAHS perform no research for Family Trees. They will provide you w/a specific document, like birth certificate.

Királyháza Karoleve Korolevo Roman Catholic B M D 1837-1871 Vynohradiv Region
Királyháza Karoleve Korolevo Greek Catholic B M D 1872-1914 Vynohradiv Region
Királyháza Karoleve Korolevo Greek Catholic B M D 1865-1903 Vynohradiv Region
Királyháza Karoleve Korolevo Greek Catholic B M D 1905-1915 Vynohradiv Region
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Today Bidzilya in Horbky > Vynohradiv raion/district > Zakarpatska region > Ukraine, latest zip 90336.

Following is taken from Russian database, using Russian Cyrillic. Surname in Ukrainian would appear as Бідзіля.

БИДЗИЛЯ НАДЕЖДА ЮРИЕВНА 0 1963-05-12 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 31
БИДЗИЛЯ МАРТА ВАСИЛЬЕВНА 0 1936-01-03 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 118
БИДЗИЛЯ МАРТА ИВАНОВНА 0 1926-02-07 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 143
БИДЗИЛЯ НАДЕЖДА ВАСИЛЬЕВНА 1985-12-11 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 31
БИДЗИЛЯ ОКСАНА ЮРИЕВНА 0 1992-04-20 ГОРБКИ САДОВА 16
БИДЗИЛЯ НАТАЛИЯ ИВАНОВНА 0 1985-01-14 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 121
БИДЗИЛЯ НИНА ВАСИЛЬЕВНА 0 1984-05-19 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 31
БИДЗИЛЯ ГАЛИНА ПАВЛОВНА 0 1982-11-29 ГОРБКИ ЧЕРВОНА 20
БИДЗИЛЯ МИРОСЛАВА ПАВЛОВНА 0 1981-01-01 ГОРБКИ РАДЯНСЬКА 3
БИДЗИЛЯ МАРТА МИХАЙЛОВНА 0 1959-03-24 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 121
БИДЗИЛЯ ЮРИЙ ЮРЬЕВИЧ 0 1995-07-19 ГОРБКИ САДОВА 10
Yurij (George), son of Yurij
БИДЗИЛЯ ИВАН ПЕТРОВИЧ 0 1937-08-26 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 162
Ivan, son of Petro
БИДЗИЛЯ ПЕТР ВАСИЛЬЕВИЧ 0 1960-05-21 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 143
Petro, son of Vasyl
БИДЗИЛЯ АННА ФЕДОРОВНА 0 1960-04-02 ГОРБКИ РАДЯНСЬКА 3
БИДЗИЛЯ ВАСИЛИЙ ИВАНОВИЧ 0 1960-04-08 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 31
Vasyl, son of Ivan
БИДЗИЛЯ ИВАН ПЕТРОВИЧ 0 1926-12-20 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 116
Ivan, son of Petro
БИДЗИЛЯ ВАСИЛИЙ ВАСИЛЬЕВИЧ 0 1988-05-10 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 31
Vasyl, son of Vasyl
БИДЗИЛЯ ИВАН ИВАНОВИЧ 0 1956-01-05 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 121
Ivan, son of Ivan
БИДЗИЛЯ ПАВЕЛ ВАСИЛЬЕВИЧ 0 1953-06-23 ГОРБКИ РАДЯНСЬКА 3
Pavlo, son of Vasyl
БИДЗИЛЯ ИВАН ВАСИЛЬЕВИЧ 0 1968-09-04 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 143
Ivan, son of Vasyl
БИДЗИЛЯ ИВАН ИВАНОВИЧ 0 1979-01-20 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 121
Ivan, son of Ivan
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Drovbak in Horbky:

ДОВБАК ТАТЬЯНА ВАСИЛЬЕВНА 0 1986-08-13 ГОРБКИ РАДЯНСЬКА 5
ДОВБАК АННА ПЕТРОВНА 0 1928-12-12 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 42
ДОВБАК ЖАННА ИВАНОВНА 0 1986-06-17 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 37
ДОВБАК АННА ВАСИЛЬЕВНА 0 1990-02-28 ГОРБКИ РАДЯНСЬКА 5
ДОВБАК ЛАРИСА ИВАНОВНА 0 1984-06-18 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 37
ДОВБАК ТАТЬЯНА МИХАЙЛОВНА 0 1967-05-10 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 30
ДОВБАК МАРИЯ ИВАНОВНА 0 1962-06-07 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 37
ДОВБАК МАРИЯ ИОСИФОВНА 0 1957-01-19 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 73
ДОВБАК ТАТЬЯНА ЮРИЕВНА 0 1980-10-14 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 73
ДОВБАК АННА ВАСИЛЬЕВНА 0 1960-10-03 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 42
ДОВБАК ИВАН ВАСИЛЬЕВИЧ 0 1959-04-15 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 37
Ivan, son of Vasyl
ДОВБАК ВАСИЛИЙ ВАСИЛЬЕВИЧ 0 1963-01-16 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 42
Vasyl, son of Vasyl
ДОВБАК ЮРИЙ ВАСИЛЬЕВИЧ 0 1956-08-18 ГОРБКИ ЗАВОДСЬКА 73
Yurij, son of Vasyl
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Major = Майор

Appx 400 Mayor living in Ukraine today, most of whom live in the Zakarpatska oblast/region, but I found none in Horbky.

Major and Dovbak Families

marlenemyers41 — 2013-05-02 15:19:46Z

These are the family members that I know of who lived in or near the village of Horbky. Fedor Major died in 1981 and had two daughter, Ann and Elizabeth. Stephen died in 1970 and had two sons and two daughters. Peter Bidzilya was born in 1917 and his son is Yury who lived in Keiv. I have no birth or death date for Ivan Major but I know that he had three sons and four daughters.
This addition information might help to find our missing relatives.

Major and Dovbak Families from village of Horbky

marlenemyers41 — 2013-05-02 14:54:12Z

Trying to locate the families of Major and Dovbak families from the village of Horbky. Do not know if the spelling of the village is correct. Also the family is connected to the name Bidzilya. Need to contact these families. They are my husbands cousins.
mamyers41@atlanticbb.net

Re: Vojak

MaximAv — 2013-05-01 04:03:37Z

Hi Jonhar915, you mean beginning of 19th century and that's why only place where records about this family may be kept is state archive of Transcarpathia.

Hluboke is refered to Nyzhne Solotvyno, it seems records are available from very beginning of 19th century, but it needs to be specified. Let me know if you need more information.

Vojak

Jonhar915 — 2013-04-30 20:48:06Z

My great-great grandmother was Maria(Vojak) Paduch. She was born circa 1820s and probably lived in or near Hluboka (or Melyut), near Uzhorod, in Zakarpatska. Her son Steven married Anna Garai; their daughter, Barbara (my grandmother) married George Babyak and immigrated to the Johnstown, PA area. Vojaks also married Babyak cousins after WWI and immigrated to the US. Does anyone have information on this line?

Re: Seeking Alexik Relatives ~ Velyki Komiaty

MaximAv — 2013-04-04 05:13:30Z

Hello saijohn, village Velyki Komiaty is currently in Vynogradovo region of Transcarpathia.

Most likely information about your family is still kept in state archives and most likely, there is complete info for Velyki Komiaty starting from 1895 which is common for former Austro-Hungarian villages.

If you specified your inquiry, chances to give more definite answer would grow.

Re: Church of the Nativity of the Most Holy Mother of God

Mighthelp — 2013-04-01 01:28:12Z

Technically selo/village Dravtsi became a part of Uzhorod, the regional capital in 1976. It is what is referred to a micro-raion/district. Following is pix of the church where Grandmother was baptised. Church of the Nativity of the Blessed Mother of God (Церква Різдва Пр. Богородиці).

http://www.pslava.info/Uzhgorod_DravciS_CerkRizdvaBogorodyci...

Translation under photo, using Bing Translator:

Uzhgorod-Microarea. Church Of The Nativity. Virgin, 1806 Photo 1996 source: m. Sirohman: Church of Transcarpathia. – The Ostriv.: 2000, p. 28.

Uzhgorod-Micro area

Church of the Nativity. Virgin. 1806 (UGCC)

The first mention of the village dates back to the year 1220. The whole history of the village is linked with the history of the town, which became part of micro area in 1976 in 1908 there were 1,099 Greek Catholics, 135 Roman Catholics, Lutherans, Jews and 94 Reformed. Born in Dravcâh known cultural figure of Yuri Žatkovič (1855-1920).

Dravecka church stands near the cemetery in the center of the village. This traditional renovative building of good proportions with side apses and a tower above the entrance can be considered one of the oldest of the Greek-Catholic churches Užgorodŝini. On the facade of the Church is 1737, and the Diocese of šematizm 1915 dates her 1806 it is known that the Church was burned and then was rebuilt. In 1926-1927, the priest at Stepan Pajkošìâ, curators Michael Žmenâka, Andrew Sìčaka, John Bas′ka and Tovta's Thanksgiving was great. Roofs covered with metal church, and cinkovoû of the vault received concrete screed. In 1935 the wizard: Ready built from concrete choirs. Painting works by Czech artist Klìmek. New iconostasis was carved by A. Gelfer from Bardejova (Slovakia). On the reverse side of all the icons on the names of the donors. At the same time has two side of the throne, the walls adorned with 14 images of the passion of Christ,cost 7500 Czechoslovak crowns.

At the beginning of the 1990s, the Church was renovated. New paintings by the remnants of the old performed in 1993, the College of the Arts Faculty of Uzhgorod Joseph Pal and Ivan Didyk.

Source: M. Sirohman: Church Of Transcarpathia. – The Ostriv.: 2000, pp. 28-29.
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Utube - April 18, 1912 Celebration of Easter Baskets and Pysanky (Easter Eggs) by children of the Church of the Nativity of the Blessed Mother of God http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emd3paOwUzc

Re: Church of the Nativity of the Most Holy Mother of God

DennisHaluska — 2013-03-31 12:34:46Z

Try asking here...we would love to have you!

Dennis

https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/2203971582/

Church of the Nativity of the Most Holy Mother of God

MLDonlevie — 2013-03-31 00:34:34Z

I am looking for a picture of this church. I believe it is in Dravtsi, Uzhhorod, but I am not positive. My grandmother was baptized here in 1893 but I can't find it in any pictures. If anyone has one, I'd be very appreciative. Thank you.
Surnames: Takach, Silvasi, Toth, Zombor

Seeking Ohar Relatives ~ Borzhavs'ke (formerly Velyka Cengava)

saijohn — 2013-03-28 19:00:05Z

Seeking relatives of George Ohar from Borzhavs'ke (formerly Velyka Cengava),Zakarpats'ka oblast, Ukraine.

George immigrated to USA in 1914.

Seeking Alexik Relatives ~ Velyki Komiaty

saijohn — 2013-03-28 18:49:49Z

Seeking relatives of Mary Alexik from Velyki Komiaty, Zakarpats'ka oblast, Ukraine.

Mary immigrated to USA in 1913.

Re: LUTO

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-03-26 00:33:13Z

You're welcome.
May I suggest you post on Poland's Ancestry board and
http://genforum.genealogy.com/poland/

In Poland: LUTOWSKI, LUTOWICZ, LUTOSTAN'SKI, LUTOW, LUTOSLAWSKI, LUTOMSKI, LUTOMIRSKI, LUTOMIERSKI, LUTOBORSKI,

to hear pronunciation http://ivona.com

http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100

Re: LUTO surname

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-03-26 00:25:45Z

You're welcome.
Is the spelling LUTO on his arrival manifest; church marriage record? Do you have his arrival manifest? You must have some document since you have a place of birth.

http://baza.archiwa.gov.pl/sezam/pradziad.php?l=en&miejs...

http://www.maplandia.com/poland/podlaskie/sejny/berzniki/

Berżniki
300 osób
woj. podlaskie
pow. sejneński
gmina Sejny

Re: LUTAK surname

ellis9841 — 2013-03-26 00:18:34Z

Thank you! Although I can't read Russian, I will search the Russian spelling for any links to my family.

Thanks again.

Re: LUTAK surname

ellis9841 — 2013-03-26 00:08:08Z

Berzniki, northeast of Augustow, in the northeast corner.
must wast lost during the war, and records are scarce.
I will search the links you sent to me.
Thank You

Re: LUTAK surname

ellis9841 — 2013-03-26 00:07:54Z

Berzniki, northeast of Augustow, in the northeast corner.
must wast lost during the war, and records are scarce.
I will search the links you sent to me.
Thank You

Joannes (John ) Hladinecz from village of Gorond / Horonda /Goronda

jww573 — 2013-03-25 12:36:17Z

My grandfather, ( listed above ) was born in the town / village above circa 1890.He was of Czech / Slovak descent, but in 1890, It was then controlled by Austria-Hungary. Today, the town is called Horonda and in the Ukraine. Would like any information on him or the town. Thank You, ....Jim

Re: LUTAK surname

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-03-25 11:56:55Z

ells9841

You have a location for this LUTO ancestor?
map of Poland's wojewodztwos:
http://www.geneteka.genealodzy.pl/
distribution of LUTO surname holders in Poland:
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/luto.html

www.rootsweb.com/~polwgw/index.html

Re: LUTAK surname

Sergey_Lutak — 2013-03-25 10:14:53Z

Hi!
Unfortunately, I have no more information about surname Luto.
As I understood it, in this surname the letter “L” is soft. In Polish, letter “Ł” is firm letter, and letter “L” is soft one.
And so, in Russian, your surname is written as “Люто / Lyuto”.
I found on the Russian website information about some woman from Krasnoyarsk. She writes: “My relatives live in the Krasnoyarsk Region. I live in the city of Krasnoyarsk. I've got Polish and Belarusian roots. Perhaps my surname is western one. Write.”
Here's link: http://www.analizfamilii.ru/familiya/Lyuto/
Regards, Sergey.

Re: LUTAK surname

ellis9841 — 2013-03-24 22:05:35Z

I live in the USA, but my fathers family is from north eastern Poland. The last name is Luto. I am struggling to find ancestors, which leads me to think that perhaps the name was changed or shortened. They live about 500 yards from the Lithuanian border.

Can you give me any leads or help in discovering where they might have come from? The family there currently says they were always Polish.

Thanks

Re: Geneology searches

jrybicka — 2013-03-07 02:04:03Z

Interestingly enough my maternal grandmother was Tekla Kaszynski from Khodoriv. Her mother was Katherine Kaszynski. This county was pretty much all Kaszynski family at that time. Would you care to give me more details? Maybe I can help.

Lubiniecki (Lubinski) family from Khodoriv (former Poland)

jrybicka — 2013-03-07 01:52:47Z

Hello,

I am looking for a lost member of the family, Walter Lubinski (or Lubiniecki) who left Khodoriv and arrived in Canada in 1929 on ship Aurania. He settled in Toronto and his last known address was 89 Concord Avenue. I am a very distant relative of his and I have been trying to find out what happened to him for a few years.

Voron from Zakarpatska

djminva — 2013-02-20 07:29:19Z

Hello Andy (Voron) Warren, I see you haven't posted for a while but wondered if our families were related? My grandfather, Michael Voron, born c1890 and his brother Vasil born c1883, in Tacovo/Tjaciv/Tecso. They immigrated to PA in 1912. Michael remained and Vasil returned to Europe. They had three sisters, names unknown. Hope to hear from you. Doris Voron.

Re: Zakarpattia Oblast, Zakarpatska, Catholic Church Records

kika3_au — 2013-02-11 13:36:48Z

The Romanian Maramaros district archives holds a lot of parish records from the Zakarpattia district.

Open the link below and scroll down til you get to 'inventare on-line', then open links containing the word 'matricole'. If you go to the end of each pdf document there is an alphabetic listing of the towns for which they hold parish records

http://www.arhivelenationale.ro/index.php?lan=0&jud=102

Unfortunately to my knowedge FHL has not yet filmed any of these records. You would need to hire a Romanian researcher to gain access to these archives.

Re: Zakarpattia Oblast, Zakarpatska, Catholic Church Records

davidsilly — 2013-02-10 16:40:22Z

yes, it seems more logical, parish records were probably keeping by the registry offices as to can writing an act of civil status can acts with help parish sources already maybe in begin of civil registration.

in my country all acts of the period before the civil status are the property of the state, after they belongs to church.
Even at the beginning of Vital record, churches were forbidden to keep records some have continued, which helps fill the holes (2 to 6 years maximun, sometimes nothing holes)
anyway, this post may be useful to researchers easiest, and contact the archives of Satu Mare and ask them what they have.

probably in old time, the local church should request a copy of baptismal certificate to their diocese for making a wedding , which in the case of Khust should be in Romania, and there would remain today.
so that the records of a village were not kept in the same village, but in a religious center.
Besides, I wonder if my baptismal certificate remains in the church of my village, it must be at the center of the diocese, I do not know how the priests doing even today.

Re: Zakarpattia Oblast, Zakarpatska, Catholic Church Records

DennisHaluska — 2013-02-08 02:28:44Z

Everyone interested....is interested only in facts that can be verified.

It does no good to continue this debate without the presentation of facts.

As geneologists and family researchers we are only interested in true and verifiable resources...

Very little at all is posted in regard to Zakarpatska and what is should be researched in depth before posting.

I will continue to watch this thread for true facts.

Regards,

Dennis

Re: Seeking Surviving Lost Relatives LUTZO, HOLIK

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-02-06 00:59:30Z

http://www.radixindex.com/en/surname_index/surname/luczo

http://www.radixindex.com/en/surname_index/surname/holik

placenames in Ung megye:
http://www.bogardi.com/gen/g162.shtml

http://web.archive.org/web/20120204155011/http://all.zakarpa...

Re: Seeking Surviving Lost Relatives

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-02-06 00:55:16Z

http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-genforum/messagehistory.cg...

Gyrogy, Luczo 25 1869 1894 but this early manifest does not list a place of birth. He was going to Tower City.

Re: Zakarpattia Oblast, Zakarpatska, Catholic Church Records

MaximAv — 2013-02-05 09:18:49Z

Hello David, you’re completely right, this is what I try to explain here. I can only confirm Baia Mare archives are authentic. It’s what appeared to be on territory of Romania in 1918 and stays there now. They have records for some border regions, mostly Khust and around.

Soviet Ukraine took away all Greek-Catholic records, however Catholic parishes may have something. They hide information, it’s not public.

About Satu Mare, Chaushesku regime was much more severe then Soviet Union, it’s hard to believe for me local Catholics could save something from requisition and transfer to National Archives.

In my first message I stated if something was on territory of Ukraine in 1944, it is still here. For example Orthodox and Greek-Catholic Churches have a lot of priceless icons and ancient art objects in own property but they can’t move it through the border because it’s culture and historic heritage. If object has culture or historic value, it can be moved through the border without extremely complicated procedure of state agreements. Of course no one would ever endorse transportation of old demographic records.

In other words, you can buy ancient icon here but if you’ll try to move it through the border, it will be confiscated.

And finally, yesterday I called to media office of Mukachevo diocese. It’s seems they were very surprised by my question. So here’s their message briefly. They deny they’ve sent own archives to Romania. They don’t deny some records may be in Romania. Point.