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Re: West Hamilton, Canada Birth / Baptism Lookup

EileenWilson001 — 2009-11-12 16:43:00Z

Hamilton was and is in Wentworth County (southwest of the city of Toronto on Lake Ontario). Reference to "West Hamilton" is odd, as there really was no such place.

However, there is also a Hamilton Township in eastern Ontario in Northumberland County.

Immigration records only date from 1869 onwards. I cannot find Edward and family in the 1861 census.

Re: West Hamilton, Canada Birth / Baptism Lookup

O_Lorelei — 2009-11-12 16:25:57Z

Hamilton Library Special Collections
email: speccol@hpl.ca

there would be no birth record for this timeline
but there should be a baptismal record.

hopefully Hamilton source above should be of great help

West Hamilton, Canada Birth / Baptism Lookup

knerakaz — 2009-11-12 14:27:29Z

Auzie needs help please.
I am trying to find my husband's grandmother, Lucy Ann Porter birth date or baptism. She was born in West Hamilton, Canada in 1858 to British parents Edward & Mary Porter.
Also could anyone tell me if there is any online immigration info for the years around 1858.
Any help appreciated.

Re: Sherman Pinkham/Jordan

Mel553031 — 2009-11-10 09:03:10Z

No, thank you very much. I found a draft card/voter registration card with Sherman Pinkham who was married to Etta Strout but on the card he checked native born, which has me very much wondering now what is going on? Oh I did and have been doing what you said, start at the most recent and do research not just go by stories. I took the research my grandmother (step) had done, filled it into websites with family tree research references and found a lot of mistakes, so when I started on ancestry.com, I put myself as the home person and am working backwards from me. This site was double I believe the cost but definitely I believe has more useful tools or maybe just user friendly. I still use the other site as it is easier for my family to get on an navigate when they want to see things. I'm just so glad I have started this now rather than later. I'm fortunate where I have only lost one grandfather, so I can get a lot of my mother's side information from my grandmother and grandfather and documents also. I actually found a picture of my grandma's dad on here, printed it out, and showed her. He was holding 2 of her nephews. Sorry got sidetracked. I just love all this research and talking to people who love it also is just such a change for me. Well I'm off to bed finally. I have tomorrow off, but have to make up some hours if my daughter feels well and actually makes it to school, and then I can do family history the rest of the day and scan in slides and negatives the other part. Thank you again. I will definitely be looking at this information. The whole getting adopte when he was an adult was not making sense to me, I'll have to confront my uncle more on that one. I don't want to upset my great grandma by saying the wrong thing, but my uncle can handle it. :D

Melissa

Re: Sherman Pinkham/Jordan

Stella_Stanger — 2009-11-10 01:28:23Z

Hi, Just checked the LDS site online
It appears that a member of the LDS - has submitted information - not confirmed by church records etc.

re Sherman PINKHAM - born 1882 Cherrfield Maine
Parents Paul S. PINKHAM born Harrington, Washington Maine -Kate FRANCIS June 16,1861.

Do you know of a family member - who may have submitted this information.? If so-perhaps contacting them - may be helpful

Just a thought.Don't want to confuse your research.
WONDER IF. Sherman was the original given name ?
He was adopted by Catherine BOYLE given the name PINKAM- as an adult.
May have accepted a different given name if it pleased his adoptive family.

LDS shows:
Sherman Leslie PINKHAM b 1865 Turner,Androscoggen Main
Parents: Nicholas PINKHAM b.1829 Turner
Alberta Malvina WENTWORTH.

Sherman D. PINKHAM b 1868 Steuben Maine
parents Daniel Bean PINKHAM Lydia Margaret LEIGHTON.

Don't want to assume - but just a thought.
Is it possible that Sherman - is the birth son of Katherine BOYLE - prior to her marriage to Mr. BOYLE?
What is accepted by some these days - was not acceptable years ago. Sometimes the family was not aware of a circumstance - other times the mother had the child away from home - to be adopted out - or left with someone.
These were very well kep secrets - most times the child was never aware of their circumstances.

Just random thoughts.

Cheers, Stella

Re: Sherman Pinkham/Jordan

Stella_Stanger — 2009-11-10 00:51:25Z

Hi, If Sherman came over in a fishing boat - there probably would not be a passenger list.
There may be port or entry records.

When researching - it is always best to start with the most current information /current family - and work back -ensure that you have proper documentation - not just ?remembered information.
If there are family papers, bibles, photographs etc - these are all helpful .

there are sites on the internet -No Cost.
that allows you to download reseach papers. Family Trees,
http://www.genealogysearch.org/free/forms.html
Even if you don't have all of the information - this makes it easier to keep track - rather than notes, notebooks etc.
Some allow you to enter what you have researched. where the information came from - confirmed as correct. etc.

Cheers,Stella

Re: Sherman Pinkham/Jordan

Mel553031 — 2009-11-09 22:53:11Z

Thank you so much. Yes, the attached on his birth place is an error. My step-grandmother put all this information together, and as my great grandmother says "She gets is all screwed up." Love them both to death but my great grandma says what she feels. I called my great grandmother today, and she confirmed he came over as an adult in his 18 to 20 on a fishing boat, but admitted she didn't know much else. She has some stuff written in a book, she is going to look for and send me what info she has. The story I got from my great grandmother which is a little bit more confusing to me after going by the records I had was that Katherine Boyle "adopted" him when he came over, and one of her relatives gave him the Pinkham name. I guess Katherine was a Pinkham before she got married. My great grandma is 95, and she has a pretty good memory, but our family was so and is so quiet on certain things its like pulling teeth to get info, so she's telling me what she knows, but not a lot was said back in her day. I'm 29 and relatively new at this, and aside from my step-grandma who put together the original nobody else is working on making corrections or on anything. I recently lost my grandfather, and that is what has sparked my interest. I didn't grow up out there with this family either, my dad moved to Minnesota when he was 8, so I'm trying to do everything over computer. That's a little background on this. Thank you so much for your suggestions. I will look up that info on the war and see what it says, and on the wedding information. Wow first time posting here, and already so much more help than I could ever imagine. Thank you.

Melissa

Re: Sherman Pinkham/Jordan

Stella_Stanger — 2009-11-09 21:05:42Z

Hi Melisa.
You have information that Sherman JORDAN/PINKHAM was born June 11 1873 you believe in Canada?
According to the attachment you sent it shows that he was born June 11 1873 - in Cherryington Me/Mo?
Was that an error by the informant. Who was the Informant?

Do you know When? Shermans Birth Parents Passed away?

You believe that Sherman JORDAN/PINKHAM - was adopted.
Formally ?
If he arrived in the USA in 1893 under his birth name he may have been considered an adult.

Wonder - if he had to apply for Citizenship. Have you searched for a Letter of Intent .Check with the State Archive or National Archive in Washinton D.C.
If he arrived via passenger ship -this will be shown - as well - Port of arrival.

Sherman served in WW1 - have you obtained his service records? -These may/should show his place of birth - citizenship -names of parents.

Marriages: Have you obtained the Marriage Registrations/ Long Form Marriage Certificates for Sherman & wives.
Don't know what is included in U.S. Marriage registrations
but may show Date and Place of birth. Names of parents - perhaps the birth parents.

Have you searched 1881 Census Canada 1880 Census U.S.A.
1890, 1900 Census USA.

Have you searched other passenger lists?

Cheers & Good Luck, Stella

Re: Sherman Pinkham/Jordan

Mel553031 — 2009-11-09 16:48:31Z

Sherman was born according to the records I have June 11, 1873. The passenger list was for S. Jordan arriving in Boston, MA on August 6, 1893 from Yarmouth, Nova Scotia. All I have been told was he was born in Canada, not much help I know. I'm going to give my great grandmother a call and see what else she can remember. He married twice according to the records I have first to Myra Colson in 1905 and she died 1912, and then to my great grandmother's mother Etta Strout. Sherman died February 14, 1957.

Passenger list I found information on was on ancestry.com and was called Boston Passenger List 1820 to 1943. This may not be him as all that is signed is S. Jordan, 18, and clerk. It's the only S. Jordan I have been able to find as of yet on a ship. Thank you.

Melissa

Re: Sherman Pinkham/Jordan

btluna — 2009-11-09 13:10:39Z

Melissa, can you tell us when and where Sherman was born? The passenger list you found, was it from England to Canada?

Do you know the name of Sherman's wife?

Sherman Pinkham/Jordan

Mel553031 — 2009-11-09 10:44:48Z

I am trying to find any information I can find on my great great grandfather Sherman Pinkham. He was adopted out of Canada so his birth name was Sherman Jordan. I think he came over on the Yarmouth. I found an S Jordan listed on a passenger list around the time he would have been 18, which is what my great uncle tells me is that he came over as a teenager when his parents died, but I had always thought he had come over as a younger child. If anyone has any information even a tiny string of info you think might be helpful, I would sure appreciate it. I know my great grandmother would love to know more about her father before she dies. She is 95 and still kicking away and taking no sass from no one. Thank you.
Melissa Werth

I attached a picture but had to block out some information, please forgive the creative way I had to do it with paint brush at 4 a.m. when I was suppose to be working and needed a quick fix.

Re: birth WEDGE, Minnie N.Sask. 1872.

jfranklins — 2009-11-09 02:17:38Z

Thanks!

Re: birth WEDGE, Minnie N.Sask. 1872.

jfranklins — 2009-11-09 02:15:35Z

Mine is 25 Feb, 1872

Re: birth WEDGE, Minnie N.Sask. 1872.

btluna — 2009-11-09 01:47:36Z

I think that Ermina/Armina is your Minnie, because her parents John and Francis Wedge are also in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania in the 1900 census. Their year of immigration is 1891.

From her birth record:
Born 26 Feb 1972, Armina WEDGE
Father John Alex. WEDGE, Yeoman
Mother Frances MARSLAND
Macaulay, Muskoka County, Ontario

This family is in Macaulay, Muskoka in the 1881 census.
Minnie had four sisters at that time.

Re: birth WEDGE, Minnie N.Sask. 1872.

btluna — 2009-11-09 01:33:05Z

The only one that seems close is Ermina (Armina) WEDGE, born 26 Feb 1872 in Ontario, parents John and Frances.

Does this birthdate match the one your aunt gave you?

Re: birth WEDGE, Minnie N.Sask. 1872.

jfranklins — 2009-11-08 21:11:51Z

Hi, 1841 through 1881 in Canada. Also, 1901 in the US. She came to America and had all her children in Allegheny County, Pennlyvania

Re: birth WEDGE, Minnie N.Sask. 1872.

Stella_Stanger — 2009-11-08 20:21:31Z

Hi,Back again - What Census have you searched? Just curious - as I am not having success.
Cheers, Stella

Re: birth WEDGE, Minnie N.Sask. 1872.

jfranklins — 2009-11-08 19:56:12Z

Thanks. I find Edith Minnie, Minnie E, etc. Just don't know where the connection is at this time. Ruth

Re: Canadian Grants

bgressel — 2009-10-27 12:42:20Z

I have a Grant brick wall. They lived in Charlottenburg, Glengarry. I can trace them back to approximately 1800. My Peter Grant married Ellen Wright. They had a son James Wright Grant, and my line if from this James Wright Grant. My email address is bgressel@aol.com. I will be glad to send more information.

Barb Gressel

Re: Canadian Grants

bgressel — 2009-10-27 12:41:58Z

Re: boynton/moore

bo33S — 2009-10-27 18:08:28Z

In memory of
Private
FREDERICK RAMESES WILSON
who died on August 16, 1916

Military Service:

Service Number: 440053
Age: 30
Force: Army
Unit: Canadian Infantry (Quebec Regiment)
Division: 42nd Bn.
Additional Information:

Son of Capt. and Mrs. William Wilson; husband of Frances Boynton (formerly Wilson, nee Moore), of Hawkestone, Ontario.

Re: 953 (U.S. Consulate) Canada

DianaMcglone1 — 2009-11-01 11:08:30Z

My Relative's death record says 953 (Us Consulate) (PE)
He was born in the UK but emigrated to Canada.
Does anyone know anyway of pinning down where to search for the death certificate?
Thanks

Re: Canadian immigration passenger lists

btluna — 2009-11-01 03:50:03Z

It looks like Can. Nat. Rys. is Canadian National Railways.

Re: Canadian immigration passenger lists

btluna — 2009-11-01 03:42:31Z

Can you give one name as an example?

Thank you!

Re: Bowdery/Bowdrey/Bowdry

btluna — 2009-11-01 18:47:49Z

The Manitoba Vital Statistics online index has the death of Arthur William Bowdrey, 23 Aug 1930, age 1 day, R.M. of Minto.

http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php

Re: Bowdery/Bowdrey/Bowdry

btluna — 2009-11-01 18:35:22Z

On the passenger list their destination was Clanwilliam, Manitoba, which is in the R.M. of Minto.

I found an online list of gravemarker transcriptions for Minto and it looks like George, Agnes and a baby son are listed. You’ll find them in the St. John Cemetery, under Lot 11, about 1/3 of the way down the document:
http://discoverminnedosa.ca/admin/FileUpload/files/Minto/Cem...

Under the map in that document it mentions a Clanwilliam History Book. I googled it and it’s called: Forest to field, a centennial history of the rural municipality of Clanwilliam and village of Erickson. If you post on the Manitoba boards maybe you will find someone who can look to see if George and Agnes are mentionned in this book.

Re: birth

btluna — 2009-11-06 13:12:49Z

Was WEDGE her maiden name, and do you think she was born in northern Sask. (NWT) ca 1872?

Have you found Minnie in the 1881 census?

Re: Canadian immigration passenger lists

btluna — 2009-11-02 13:06:49Z

If you enlarge the image it's 'Dept. of Col.'.

In that time period there was a Department of Immigration and Colonization. From googling it looks like they dealt with immigration to the three prairie provinces.

Re: Bowdery/Bowdrey/Bowdry

tbowdrey — 2009-11-01 18:52:30Z

That's brilliant btluna, thank you so much

Re: Bowdery/Bowdrey/Bowdry

tbowdrey — 2009-11-01 18:49:09Z

Thank you both very much, I certainly wasn't expecting a reply so fast! Thanks again

Bowdery/Bowdrey/Bowdry

tbowdrey — 2009-11-01 17:39:28Z

George Bowdrey born 1890, West Drayton, Middlesex, left England in 1904 on the ship 'Dominion' and arrived in Quebec 5 June 1904. He joined the Canadian Engineers and returned to England in 1919 when he married Agnes Gillett. They then both returned to Canada. Does anyone have any information on this couple please?

Re: William Bickford of Ontario Canada

EileenWilson001 — 2009-10-28 00:46:04Z

I am not related ... just trying to help.

Good luck in your research.

Re: William Bickford of Ontario Canada

EileenWilson001 — 2009-10-27 14:45:52Z

From the Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, Albert Bickford, son of Wm. & Caroline, married Lillie M. Grove, daughter of Wm. & Amanda of 23 December 1896 in Ogle County. You can obtain a copy of the marriage record very cheaply:

http://www.ilsos.gov/GenealogyMWeb/marrsrch.html

It may provide you with more info.

Albert shows up in a border crossing record at Port Huron, Michigan in January 1909:

Albert Bickford, aged 33, farmer, Canadian, last of Iroquois (Canada); gives his sister, Mary Feder of Haynesville, Canada, as next of kin in Canada; bound for his wife, Lillie M. Bickford of Mt. Morris, Illinois; gives his birthplace as Winchester, Canada. Previously in the US from 1894 to 1908 in Mt. Morris, Illinois. Departed the US in 1908.

Winchester Township is in Dundas County on the north shore of Lake Ontario, near Belleville. Iroquois is in neighbouring township, Matilda, also in Dundas County.

Here's the marriage of his sister, Mary:

Thomas Evans Fader, aged 30, b. Matilda, of same, bachelor, farmer, son of Rodney & Louisa, married Mary Bickford, aged 23, b. Winchester, of same, daughter of William & Catherine; witnesses: Richard Anderson of Matilda, and Sarah Robinson, of Winchester; 13 December 1892 at Winchester; both parties Methodist, by Rev. H. Brown, by license.

In the 1871 census, they are indexed as Bigford:

Winchester, Dundas Co., Ontario

Bigford, Wm., aged 32, b. Ontario, C. Methodist, German, farmer, married
Bigford, Catharine, aged 30, b. Ontario, married
Bigford, David W., aged 12, b. Ontario
Bigford, Nancy, aged 11, b. Ontario
Bigford, Ellen, aged 10, b. Ontario
Bigford, James W., aged 9, b. Ontario
Bigford, Silus, aged 7, b. Ontario
Bigford, Malon, aged 5, b. Ontario
Bigford, Anne, aged 3, b. Ontario
Bigford, Caroline, aged 2, b. Ontario
Bigford, Mary, aged 5 months, b. November

Re: Canadian immigration passenger lists

O_Lorelei — 2009-11-01 15:30:58Z

It means the family went by train, Canadian
National Railways - to Winnipeg.

Re: Canadian immigration passenger lists

daviking — 2009-11-02 02:06:31Z

The family is Chomyn. I'm now wondering what Dept of Cal means?
I didn't realize that the CNR was the railway involved. Thought it was the CPR.

Canadian immigration passenger lists

daviking — 2009-11-01 00:44:45Z

In 1929, there are records for people entering Canada. The destination says something like:
Can.Nat.Rys. Dept. of Cal. Winnipeg, Manitoba
Not sure what all this means and the family ended up living in Manitoba.
Any assistance with what this means would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Woodgates in Canada

tester1887 — 2009-10-29 05:13:48Z

Please check replies on your posting on the Ontario Message Board.

birth

jfranklins — 2009-11-06 03:26:25Z

Looking for Minnie Wedge, N Saskatchewan during the reign of Queen Victoria, 1872

Re: birth WEDGE, Minnie N.Sask. 1872.

jfranklins — 2009-11-08 14:28:34Z

Hi, I do not know her parents name. Her son was my Dad. His sister gave me the exact birthdate, etc. I find several "minnie's" in the census, but, cannot decide who is the right one.

Re: William Bickford of Ontario Canada

sherylolsen9 — 2009-10-28 00:15:13Z

Thank you a thousand times for answering with such detailed information!! I truly appreciate the leads you have given me. How are you related to the Bickfords? I am the great granddaughter of Caroline Bickford, married to Jared Emery. I was able to find a lot on the Emery side, but was at a loss on the Bickford side.

Again, thank you!

Re: 953 (U.S. Consulate) Canada

ELLinSpain — 2009-11-02 15:25:41Z

do you have a name & date?

Re: birth WEDGE, Minnie N.Sask. 1872.

Stella_Stanger — 2009-11-08 01:58:12Z

Hi,
What is your source of information re the birth of Minnie WEDGE in N. Sask. 1872?

Do you have other information - names of parents etc.
Do you know When.Where If - Minnie WEDGE married.
Had Children? - Passed Away?

Working back - from the most current informaton known -may prove helpful in finding the actual date and place of the birth of Minnie WEDGE.

You might want to post to the Message Board/s for Saskatchewan -
http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada/mb.ashx
* note that Saskatchewan in 1872 was part of the N.W. Territories - became a Province in 1906.

Searching National Archive of Canada 1881 Census
for Minnie WEDGE - finds 0 results.
Searching the LDS -1881 Census site - for Canada - finds 0 Minnie WEDGE

Cheers & Good Luck, Stella

Re: birth WEDGE, Minnie N.Sask. 1872.

Stella_Stanger — 2009-11-08 19:32:11Z

Hi, Just another thought. -Just came to mind.
Perhaps Minnie WEDGE is not shown as Minnie on the Census - She may have been given a different birth name - perhaps Minnie as a second name.
Some people do not always use the name that they were given at birth. eg. Elizabeth[Lizzie][Betty].Anastasia [Anna,Ann, Nancy,Nastia] Harold is Harry, Hank,etc
Cheers, Stella

Re: birth WEDGE, Minnie N.Sask. 1872.

Stella_Stanger — 2009-11-08 19:10:47Z

Hi, Minnie WEDGE is your Grandmother?
Her Registration of Death -May show the her date and place of birth - as well - the names of her parents if known to the informant.
The Marriage Registration -depending on the requirements of the time - may show the names of both sets of parents - including the maiden name of the mother -Place of birth of the parents.

Registration of Birth of the children of Minnie Wedge - depending on the requirements of the time - may show the names of her parents including her mothers maiden name.

REGISTRATION /Genealogigical Registration of Birth / Long Form Birth Certificate
Contains all personal information required at the time.'

Birth Certificate - Is an extract of Basic Information taken from the registration. - good for proof of an event - without disclosing to much information to those not in need.

Do Post to the General Message Board for Saskatchewan
There may be persons who could be of help.

Cheers, Stella

Re: Bowdery/Bowdrey/Bowdry

Stella_Stanger — 2009-11-01 18:17:57Z

Hi, Searching Online White Pages Directory MyTelus.com
for the BOWDREY surname - finds only 3 listings Nationwide, Canada.
Perhaps family connected.
Also shows a brother in England as next of Kin - perhaps there are still family connections -photo/s letters etc - that may show location/s in Canada?

Soldiers of WW 1 Shows George BOWDREY - occupation farmer
Searched National Archive of Canada Western Land Grants - with 0 results.

Cheers,Stella

Re: James& Jeanie Pugh

Stella_Stanger — 2009-10-29 04:56:55Z

Hi, From the Provincial Archive of BC Vital Events Index:
Marriage 1859-1933 Birth 1872-1903 Death 1872-1988

James Pugh Age:67 Event:Death
Place Vancouver Date:1966 2 7 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Reg. Number:1966-09-002277
Microfilm #:B13276 (GSU # 2033800)
The filmed registration can be viewed at no cost the Provincial Archive in Victoria - As Well -some Public and University Libraries - in the Province.

There are Volunteers at Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness British Columbia
Any who offer Lookup of Public Record can transcribe or copy information found. * Registration shows all personal information required at the time - will show marital status - name of Informant etc.

Volunteers may also search for Obituary - this may show names and locations of the daughters etc at the time.
Others may offer Cemetery Photo.

It is quite possible since James PUGH passed away at age 67 - his wife Jeanie - may have married again.

Cheers , Stella

Re: Canadian immigration passenger lists

debbth — 2009-11-02 03:09:42Z

Department of Customs and Immigration.

Re: James& Jeanie Pugh

isobelpillatt — 2009-10-29 13:09:14Z

Hi Stella, Thanks so much for your reply. I will follow through your suggestions.....thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.

cheers. Isobel

James& Jeanie Pugh

isobelpillatt — 2009-10-29 02:03:18Z

Can anyone help. James age 28, and Jeanie age23 sailed from Greenock to Quebec on the Andania on the 27/6/1927 with Helen 30 months and Agnes 18 months. They returned to the Uk in 1952 on holiday. Only other listing I can find is James death....7/2/1966 Vancouver.I'm not good on the poota and would love to know what became of my Uncle and Aunt....who I never met. Be grateful for any pointers.

Woodgates in Canada

lch81 — 2009-10-28 21:13:42Z

I'm looking for information regarding William Woodgate, born about 1830 in Suffolk England.

I believe Henry emigrated to Canada in 1870 with a wife named Elizabeth & their four children.

I'd be happy to exchange information about this family.

Thanks