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Whyte or White Family

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Re: Whyte or White Family

Posted: 29 Feb 2012 6:45PM GMT
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I found in my files something on Thomas Ullock's wife, Mary. The Williston's were an early and influential family on the Miramichi River.

Thomas


JOHN BAILEY WILLISTON b. possibly Springfield, MA 23AUG1757, d. Bay du Vin, Northumberland Co., NB 9JUL1833 (or 22JUL1834) age 77 (or 76) years, m. (as Bailey Williston) Bay du Vin, Northumberland Co., NB 13MAR1788 (by James Horton) PHOEBE STYMIEST (b. NY (probably. Hempstead, Long Island, NY) 28APR1770, d. Bay du Vin (Baie des Ventes), Glenelg Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 23DEC1845 age 75 years), d/o Benjamin Christoffel and Abigail Rachael (Fardon) Stymiest.

Children:
1. JOSEPH WILLISTON b. Bay du Vin (Baie des Ventes), Glenelg Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 12JAN1789, d. 16OCT1818, m. 17AUG1813 ELSPETH (ELPHSY, ELSIE) ALICE ('ALCEY') WALLS (b. ca. 1791-3, d. Bay du Vin (Baie des Ventes), Glenelg Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 28JAN1877 age 85 years; m. 2nd 11NOV1819 Thomas Ullock), d/o James and Charlotte (Brown) Walls.
Administration of Joseph's estate was granted 19JAN1819 to 'Alcey' Williston, presumably his wife. She was likely a d/o James Walls who petitioned for land in Northumberland Co., NB in 1788. James was granted lands in Ludlow and Northesk Parishes in 1816 and 1822. Another was John Walls granted land in 1814 with James Goodfellow and Donald Morrison. Probably in Newcastle Parish. Although judging by the 1851 census, there were no Walls in Glenelg Parish, Charles Walls, of Blackville m. 12NOV1861 Mary McKinnon. Mary's father, Charles McKinnon, was from Glenelg Parish. Mary's sister, Phoebe, m. Charles' brother, George Wall. Charles and George were sons of s/o James and Sarah Ann (Munroe) Walls. In 1851, in Blackville Parish, 'Sarah Ann' Walls was b. ca. 1803. Her husband, James (d. Blackville Parish 27APR1851), may have been Elphsy Alice Wall's brother. I have also seen the name as 'Wells'.
The New Brunswick Genealogical Society web site, "First Families", at:
http://www.nbgs.ca/firstfamilies/FAMILY-W-2006.pdf
notes the family:

WALLS: James Walls born 10 Mar 1765 in Orkney Isles, Scotland, d. 9 Jan 1852 in Nelson Parish, s/o John Walls and Isobel Stronch: came to NB in 1784 and probably settled in North Esk or Glenelg Parish in Northumberland County: m. 25 Oct 1787 Charlotte Brown d/o William Brown:
Children:
1) John Walls born c1787, died 6 Nov 1854, m. 27 Sep 1815 his first cousin, Nellie Brown d/o Robert Brown:
2) Isabelle Walls b. c1789, m. (1st) James Goodfellow s/o David Goodfellow of Point aux Carr, Glenelg Parish: married (2nd) Robert A. Mouad:
3) James Walls b. c1791, d. 27 Apr 1851, m. 2 Jul 1818 Sarah Ann Munro:
4) Alice/Els Walls b. c1793, m. (1st) 17 Aug 1813 Joseph Williston, eldest s/o John Bailey Williston: married (2nd) 11 Nov 1819 Thomas Ullock:
5) George Walls born c1810, m. 1839 Barbara Clark:
6) Peter Walls:
7) Daniel Walls:
8) William Walls born c1800, married 25 Aug 1824 Marie Astle: settled in Nelson Parish:
9) Mary Walls born 1802, died 1813.
Sources: MC80/2689 Miramichi Branch of the NBGS, Some first families of the Miramichi, 1 page: see also MC216 Kathleen Willis Williston fonds, MS 1B5 Biographies and notes on early settlers written by Mrs. Williston in 1947, 1 page: see under entry for James Walls which says he was born in Banffshire, Scotland.

Elspeth and Alice might be variations of the same name. In 1851, in Glenelg Parish, she is Elspit Ullock age 58, b. NB. Her husband, Thomas Ullock, was age 55, b. England, arrived MAY1808.
"The Family Herald", Vol. 1, Issue 3, 14MAR2004, by Barry MacK., has an article on page 1, which gives, in part:

Ullock

"The Ullock family, natives of Ullock, Cumberland County, England, entered British North America in May 1808, according to the Northumberland County Census of 1851. The first Ullock in Canada was Thomas Ullock Sr., christened 3 May 1796 in Maryport, Cumberland, England, the son of Sergeant and Ann (McKendrick) Ullock (married 25 May 1794 in Bromfield, Cumberland). Thomas was building ships with John Doran at Chatham, New Brunswick, as early as 1825, and operated, at one time, a livery stable on Duke Street .After Thomas' death, the ownership of the livery stable passed to his grandson Angus. On 11 November 1819, Thomas Sr. married the widow Elizabeth (Elspeth or Alice) (Walls) Williston of Glenelg, Northumberland County, New Brunswick.
"Elizabeth was originally married to Joseph Williston, who died at 30 years, father of two sons. Elizabeth bore Thomas a number of children:
Jeremiah (1821 - @1872), married Ann McMaster. Donald Sergeant (@1825 - @1918), married Emily McRae.
William (@1825 - 6 October 1883), married Jessie Sinclair.
James (@1827 - ).
Thomas (1827 – 28 October 1884), marriedCatherine MacDonald.
Sarah Anne (@ 1827 - ), married Henry Gitchell. Charlotte (@1830 - ), married John McMaster.
Mary Eliza (1829 - ), married John Williston.
Isabella W. (3 January 1832 – 10 November 1882),
married George Pelton.Daniel (@1835 - ).

"The Family Herald is described as:

"The Family Herald is a family genealogy newsletter published occasionally for the benefit of the sons and daughters of the Napan-Black River area. Feel free to make copies and distribute it. To join the mailing list: barrymack4@hotmail.com"

According to one compilation, Joseph and Elspeth had only one son. In the article noted above, they had two sons. I do not readily see, in the 1851 census, anyone age 33-38 years who may have been such a 2nd son.
11. JOHN BAILEY WILLISTON b. Bay du Vin (Baie des Ventes), Glenelg Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 1814, d. Northumberland Co., NB 12NOV1882, m. ISABELLE McDONALD (b. ca. 1817.)


All of this will be confusing, and make take time to sort out. Logging was (and is) a big industry in New Brunswick. In fact, I could make a case that West Coast logging originated in New Brunswick. Many New Brunswickers ended up on the Pacific Coast seeking work. I gather your father was in Sooke for some time, and logging was pretty much the only thing there for a long time till they closed the mill (Lamford's?) and even after.

If you have any questions, ask; but only a few at a time.

Thomas
SubjectAuthorDate Posted
dutch_world 26 Feb 2012 6:29PM GMT 
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