Sorry for poor typing, read my post from 10 Apr 2010.Bartolo Pangrazio had 4 sons John born in 1856 in Italy, Modest born in 1859 in Austria, Anthony born1860 in Austria, and Joseph born in 1864 in Austria. I am able to trace them all except Joseph. His Obituary is listed in Caledonia NY Advertiser on 10 Dec 1934 for burial in Leroy
NY. There is no way I can stretch John to be Joseph. Most of this information comes from my Grandmothers Rose Pangrazio's scrap book.