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descendent of Emerich Rose from Hungary

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Re: descendent of Emerich Rose from Hungary

Posted: 9 Feb 2013 4:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,
Not related but found some info that might help ... unfortunately not much at all on Betty, Sarah or your grandfather:

Emmerich Rose, "United States Census, 1900"
name: Emmerich Rose
event: Census
event date: 1900
event place: ED 339 Borough of Manhattan, Election District 18 New York City Ward 14, New York County, New York, United States
birth date: May 1862
birthplace: Austria
relationship to head of household: Head
father's birthplace: Austria
mother's birthplace: Austria
race or color (standardized): White
gender: Male
marital status: Married
years married: 3
estimated marriage year: 1897
mother how many children: 2
number living children: 2
immigration year: 1885
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head Emmerich Rose M 38 Austria (b. May 1862)
wife Bertha Rose F 30 Austria (b. Sept 1870, Austria)
son Edmund H Rose M 2 New York (b. Apr 1898)
daughter Stella Rose F 1 New York (b. Aug 1899 - 9 mos old)

Emmerich Rose, "United States Census, 1910"
name: Emmerich Rose
birthplace: Hungary
relationship to head of household: Self
residence: Manhattan Ward 19, New York, New York
marital status: Married
race : White
gender: Male
immigration year: 1887
father's birthplace: Hungary
mother's birthplace: Hungary
Household Gender Age Birthplace
self Emmerich Rose M 45y Hungary
wife Bertha Rose F 44y Hungary
son Edmond Rose M 12y New York
dau Estella Rose F 10y New York
son Milton Rose M 9y New York

Emerich Rose, "New York, State Census, 1915"
name: Emerich Rose
event: Census
event year: 1915 (June 1)
event place: New York, New York, New York, United States
gender: Male
age: 50
relationship to head of household: Head
estimated birth year: 1865
years in the u.s.: 27
Rose Emerich M 50 Hungary (citizen of USA)
Rose Bertha F 49 Hungary (citizen of USA)
Rose Edmund M 17 US
Rose Stella F 15 US
Rose Milton M 14 US

Emerick Rose, "United States Census, 1920"
name: Emerick Rose
residence: , New York, New York
estimated birth year: 1865
age: 55
birthplace: Hungary
relationship to head of household: Self
gender: Male
race: White
marital status: Married
father's birthplace: Hungary
mother's birthplace: Hungary
Household Gender Age Birthplace
self Emerick Rose M 55y Hungary
wife Bertha Rose F 54y Hungary
dau Stella Rose F 20y New York
son Milton Rose M 19y New York

*** did Emerich & Bertha divorce - or did she pass away?

Emerick Rose, "United States Census, 1930"
name: Emerick Rose
event: Census
event date: 1930
event place: Brooklyn (Districts 1251-1500), Kings, New York
gender: Male
age: 63
marital status: Married
race: White
birthplace: Hungary
estimated birth year: 1867
immigration year: 1896
relationship to head of household: Head
father's birthplace: Hungary
mother's birthplace: Hungary
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head Emerick Rose M 63 Hungary
wife Sarah Rose F 51 Romania
daughter Betty Rose F 22 New York
boarder Oscar Zwechl M 25 New York
boarder Rose Zwechl F 27 New York


Arriving at New York from Bermuda on 2 Jun 1930
Edmond Rose address in USA is 315 E. 80th St, NYC

Arriving at New York from Mexico on 4 Sept 1934
Stella Rose address in USA is 315 E. 80th St, NYC
(born NYC Aug 3 1899) (single)

Arriving at New York from LaHavre, France 23 Aug 1951
Stella Rose address is 330 E. 79th St, NYC (single)

Arriving New York from Bermuda on 2 Aug 1950
Stella C Rose address is 330 E. 79th St, NYC (single)


found another 1930 Census with Edmond listed, as well as Milton & Stella (see below) - not sure who Julius & Annie are though ...
maybe Bertha and Emerich divorced and she remarried. Could be Annie is Bertha's real first name or maybe her middle name ... confusing, I know, but I wouldn't rule it out unless you have proof of Bertha's death. What's even stranger is that it listed Edmond as a "son", but then lists Milton and Stella as "brother" and "sister". Not sure who was answering the Census-takers questions - Edmond or Julius. The census also lists "Annie" first marrried at age 21, and Julius is age 44 at first marriage. This "could" be Annie's second marriage. According to their ages, Julius and Annie could have been for about 20 years, as Julius's age is listed as 64. Annie's is listed as 55 putting her birth year about 1875.

1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Edmund Rose
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1899
Birthplace: New York
Race: White
Home in 1930: Manhattan, New York, New York
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: Julius Krassay
Father's Birthplace: Hungary
Mother's Name: Annie Krassay
Mother's Birthplace: Hungary
Household Members: Name Age
Julius Krassay 64
Annie Krassay 55
Edmund Rose 31
Milton Rose 29
Stella Rose 25 (her age should be listed at about 30 yrs because she's older than Milton, and Miltons' age is close to correct as of 1920 census)


Here's the son Edmond in 1935 ......

Edmond Rose, "Rhode Island, State Census 1935"
name: Edmond Rose
event: Census
event date: 1935
event place: Providence, Rhode Island, United States
residence: 120 S Angell St, Providence, Providence, Rhode Island
street address: 120 S Angell St
gender: Male
marital status: Married
race: White
head of household - number in family: 2
birth date: 07 Apr 1898
birthplace: New York

1940 United States Federal Census
Name: Edmond H Rose
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: New York
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: New York, Queens, New York (Queens Borough)
Residence in 1935: Providence, Rhode Island
Household Members: Name Age
Edmond H Rose 41 (b. NY)
Therese M Rose 31 (b. NY)
Robert L Rose 2 (b. RI)

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta)
Name: Edmond H Rose
Gender: M (Male)
Residence Year: 1936
Street Address: 120 S Angell
Residence Place: Providence, Rhode Island
Occupation: Slsmn
Spouse: Therese M Rose
Publication Title: Providence, Rhode Island, City Directory, 1936

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta)
Name: Edmond H Rose
Gender: M (Male)
Residence Year: 1937
Street Address: 120 S Angell
Residence Place: Providence, Rhode Island
Occupation: Dist Rep
Spouse: Therese M Rose
Publication Title: Providence, Rhode Island, City Directory, 1937

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta)
Name: Edmond H Rose
Gender: M (Male)
Residence Year: 1938
Street Address: 158 Evergreen
Residence Place: Providence, Rhode Island
Occupation: Slsmn
Spouse: Therese Rose
Publication Title: Providence, Rhode Island, City Directory, 1938


Social Security Death Index
first name: Edmond
middle name:
last name: Rose
name suffix:
birth date: 8 April 1898
social security number: 166-09-6843
place of issuance: Pennsylvania
last residence: Queens, New York
zip code of last residence: 11375
death date: July 1973
estimated age at death: 75

Social Security Death Index
first name: Therese
middle name: M
last name: Rose
birth date: 27 January 1909
social security number: 053-42-5399
place of issuance: New York
last residence: Queens, New York
zip code of last residence: 11374
death date: 26 February 1999
estimated age at death: 90


Here's the son Milton .....

Milton Rose, "United States Census, 1940"
name: Milton Rose
event place: Assembly District 8, Bronx, New York City, Bronx, New York
gender: Male
age: 39
marital status: Married
race (standardized): White
relationship to head of household (standardized): Head
birthplace: New York
estimated birth year: 1901
residence in 1935: Same Place
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head Milton Rose M 39 New York
wife Ella Rose F 33 New York

Stella Rose in household of Milton Rose, "United States Census, 1940"
name: Stella Rose
event place: Assembly District 16, Manhattan, New York City, New York, New York
gender: Female
age: 40
marital status: Single
race (standardized): White
relationship to head of household (standardized): Sister
birthplace: New York
estimated birth year: 1900
residence in 1935: Same House
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head Milton Rose M 39 New York (Milton is a dentist)
sister Stella Rose F 40 New York (Stella teaches in a public school)
uncle Julius Krassay M 76 Austria
aunt Anna Krassay F 70 Austria

Well, we know Julius & Annie/Anna are the Aunt & Uncle now ... I wonder who and how the Krassy's are related ... are these Sarah's family or Bertha's? Only brings more questions I'm afraid.

Good luck!
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