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Re: Nancy Sulivant

cephasm1 — 2009-11-12 00:08:26Z

HENRY AND NANCY WAS MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER MARTHA JANE SULLIVANTS BROTHER AND SISTERINLAW I NEED INFO. ON THEM I HAVE INFO. ON HER THANKS CEPHAS MOORE

Dr. William Hughes (Hughs), abt 1809-1867, & Family

sholman5075 — 2009-11-03 14:35:02Z

I am researching the Hughes family in Pickens County and would appreciate any information from descendants in the area. My ggg grandfather was Dr. William Hughes, b. abt 1809 and died 1867, a physician in Pickens and Greene counties. I am most interested in his daughter, Addie, my gg grandmother who was born abt 1845 and married James Gibson and then a Kennedy from Pickens Co. I have a family album which belonged to her and would love to identify some of the people in the album - and also share with others interested. I'm also looking for Addie Hughes Kennedy's death date and place of burial. Addie's brothers and sisters were Thomas, Mary Ann E., Newton R., and Richard C., all of whom I am trying to accumulate information on. Richard and Newton served in the Civil War. Any help would be appreciated.
Susan Holman
sholman@gulftel.com

Re: Dr. Edwin C. Dancy

MsJHyde — 2009-10-22 19:04:50Z

Oh Lord! My head is spinning, because my great grandmother was a Spann, Quantillia Spann. LOL My great grandmother had a child by Fed Dancy, but they weren't never married. She was very young when she give birth to my grandmother, Minnie Dancy. Minnie was raised by her grandparents, Abram and Josephine Spann in Noxubee County, MS. Talking about a small world.
So, how are you related to the Dancys?

Re: Dr. Edwin C. Dancy

muirhead1 — 2009-10-22 11:40:34Z

I have not come across any slaves named Florence and it would be impossible to find a name to go with Dr. Dancy this far out from that history, unless you had someone who was carrying around an oral history of that imformation. Everyone in Dancy, and surrounding areas knew each other.
When I talked to my cousin Ezell Dancy--whose grandfather was Lorenzo, he remembered bits and pieces of history since he grew up in Dancy. He said that after Dr. Dancy died the Klan taunted a lot of Dancys saying that they no longer had protecttion from Dr. Dancy. Also Ezell said that Dr. Dancy has so many children that when ever he went to check on someone they usually ended up having a baby. These are some stories.
Peacolia Barge is my aunt. Her father was Robert Dancy who was the son of Lorenzo. Lorenzo was not however married to my grandfather's mother. I believe Lorenzo had quite a few children as well. Most of the Dancy line that I know of comes from Dancy, Alabama. My grandfather left Dancy and never really returned much. My aunt said that when they were little a lot of his brothers, nephews used to visit them in Bessemer and they looked white. My grandmother didn't like to visit Dancy because there were too many fair black people there and she was not comfortable with that, again, this is my family story.
I don't know any of the names you mentioned. There are a lot of Dancy's in East St. Louis. And they are connected to Spanns, They are your relatives.
Also, some of the Dancy's had the name and some were descended from Dr. Dancy.
Deborah

Re: Dr. Edwin C. Dancy

MsJHyde — 2009-10-22 03:38:45Z

I came across this website, an interview of Mrs Peacolia Barge and in this interview she said, Lorenzo Dancy was her great grandfather. Check this out.http://library.thinkquest.org/12111/mculley.html?tqskip1=1&a...
She doesn't give her father's name, but only that Lorenzo Dancy was her great grandfather.

Re: Dr. Edwin C. Dancy

MsJHyde — 2009-10-22 02:00:59Z

Hey,
I'm glad to hear you. Someone told me that Dr, Edwin Dancy had children by two slave women, but I wasn't told the names of the women. One researcher told me the mother's name was Florence. I have came across people that know and knew of the Dancys of East St. Louis, but I don't know how to contact them. I live in St. Louis, across the river and never knew I have relatives in East St. Louis.
My father didn't talk about his mother family until I started my search. My grandmother, Minnie Dancy's father was Fed Dancy. His father was Will Dancy, one of Lorenzo's sons. My father has very little information on the Dancy. He did know Tommy,Nutty, Steve, Bennie, and Arell(not sure of spelling).
Do you know Nutty? I don't know his real name, but the last time I was in Shuqualak(2002),he was livIng and I was told he probably can give you some info.
My father just told me that Tommy and Bennie were brothers. Their father's name was Jess Dancy. Nutty and Steve were brothers. Nutty was the oldest of the two.
I would like to see what you have the Dancy and thank you.

Re: Shirley,Weir,Benson Families of Pickens Co.,Al

BButler330 — 2009-10-20 14:49:14Z

I don't know if you have ever used Find a Grave, but I have found it to be very helpful.
If you know the state he was possible buried in, you can narrow down the cemetery. I have found the tombstones of several people I needed dates on. This was due to the generous volunteers who donated their time to photograph and record dates in area cemeteries.
Also, the general web for different states also has listings for cemeteries.
It was a suggestion that was passed on to me that has been very helpful.
Mary Hughes Butler

Re: Dr. Edwin C. Dancy

muirhead1 — 2009-10-20 02:13:56Z

Hi Jean,

Yes, I remember you, that is going to impossible to find out I think. Dr. Dancy had so many sons, and I don't know is they were with the same woman. I interviewed a cousin,actually he was Lorenzo Dancy's grandson- Ezell Dancy, whose father was Henry Dancy. Ezell grew up in Dancy and remembered Lorenzo looking like a white man. He had no memory of Dr. Dancy and know no knowlege of who fathered his grandfather Lorenzo. I have the name of several slave women that came with Dr. Dancy and his family from N.C to Mississippi and then to Alabama, but trying to connect one to him....well that's anyone's guess.
There were a lot of Dancy's in the East St. Louis area and still are, but they are much removed from that old generation and the really old ones are gone now. They were alive when I started doing this years ago, but I could never get in touch with them except through a few people. There is a family legion about a photgraph of all the Dancy brothers probably taken at the turn of the century. Maybe someone on your message link thread has heard of this.
Have you found anyone that has given you good information? I can copy some of may things and send them to you.

Deborah

Re: Shirley,Weir,Benson Families of Pickens Co.,Al

bamabellesiamese — 2009-10-19 20:14:21Z

I, too, am looking for Jonathan Shirley & Sarah Savage.

Re: Dr. Edwin C. Dancy

MsJHyde — 2009-10-19 17:23:02Z

Hello,
How are you? I don't know if you remember, but I spoke to you before from the website, dancy.net. Yes, I am still researching Dr. Edwin C. Dancy. I have a Dancy family tree on Ancestry.com and made many connections. I found out that Lorenzo is my 3rd great grandfather and this makes Dr. Edwin C. Dancy, my fourth great grandfather. My one question who was the mother of Dr. Edwin C. Dancy children?
Nice hearing from you.

Re: Dr. Edwin C. Dancy

muirhead1 — 2009-10-18 17:27:34Z

Hi,
Are you still looking for information on Dr. Dancy?

Re: Shirley,Weir,Benson Families of Pickens Co.,Al

sunnybeaches4me — 2009-10-14 17:11:16Z

Hi - It's been nearly 5 years since the last post here, but am wondering about the grave of Capt R Stewart, b 1829, died 6/6/1862 in KY. I think this may be my gg grandfather, only he was a McCord, married to Margaret Wier. He died June 6, 1862, in KY. If anyone could verify that this person does indeed have "Wier/Weir" on the tombstone, I would appreciate it very much. (I'm in Missouri). My ancestors name was Robert A McCord, but he did have a son named Robert Stewart McCord. (This would not be the son, he was born in 1858).

Thanks!
Connie

Re: Simpson Cemetery near Ethelsville,AL

dricoman — 2009-10-12 22:21:56Z

Hi Jay, I'm wondering if this E.Simpson b.1808 could be Ephraim Simpson? I really reached a dead end with E.Simpson.. John Simpson is my 2xGreat grand father and his son Earnest Curtis my Great grand father. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Andy Simpson,Mesa AZ

1860 United States Federal Census
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Name: Martha Simpson
Age in 1860: 38
Birth Year: abt 1822
Birthplace: North Carolina
Home in 1860: Yorkville, Pickens, Alabama
Gender: Female
Post Office: Yorksville

E Simpson 52
Martha Simpson 38
Wm A Simpson 19
Levinia W Simpson 16
Elizabeth Simpson 14
Robt E Simpson 12
Martha J Simpson 10
Jno W Simpson 8
Amandia Simpson 6
Eugenia V Simpson 4
E W Simpson 1/12

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1870 United States Federal Census
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Name: John Simpson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Age in 1870: 16
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1870: Yorkville, Pickens, Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Yorkville

E Simpson 68
Martha Simpson 46
Isabella Simpson 18
John Simpson 16
Amanda Simpson 14
Eugine Simpson 12
George Simpson 10
Lou Simpson 8

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1880 United States Federal Census
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Name: Curtis E. Simpson
Home in 1880: Yorkville, Pickens, Alabama
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Birthplace: Alabama
Relation to Head of Household: Son
Father's Name: John
Father's birthplace: Alabama
Mother's Name: Martha
Mother's birthplace: Alabama
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
House Number: 11925723

John Simpson 26 abt 1854 Alabama Self (Head)
Martha Simpson 30 abt 1850 Alabama Wife
Vernon R. Simpson 6 abt 1874 Alabama Daughter
Curtis E. Simpson 4 abt 1876 Alabama Son
Bellian Simpson 6M abt 1879 Alabama Daughter

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next door neighbor

Martha Simpson 62 abt 1818 South Carolina Self (Head)
Amanda Simpson 24 abt 1856 Alabama Daughter
Serrella Simpson 18 abt 1862 Alabama Daughter

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Alabama Marriage Collection, 1800-1969
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Name: Mary Clardy
Spouse: E C Simson
Marriage Date: 12 Dec 1897
County: Pickens
State: Alabama
Performed By Title: Minister of the Gospel
Performed by Name: Woods Springfield
Source information: Jordan Dodd, Liahona Research

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1900 United States Federal Census
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Name: Earnest C Simpson [Ernest C Simpson]
Home in 1900: Yorkville, Pickens, Alabama
Age: 24
Birth Date: Jan 1876
Birthplace: Alabama
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Alabama
Mother's Birthplace: Alabama
Spouse's Name: Mary L
Marriage year: 1898
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 2
Residence : Precinct 6 Yorkville, Pickens, Alabama

Earnest C Simpson 24 Jan 1876 Alabama White Head (AL/AL)
Mary L Simpson 22 Feb 1878 Mississippi White Wife (AL/AL)
Vernon V Simpson 1 Feb 1899 Alabama White Daughter

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next door neighbors

Zell D Simpson 20 Dec 1879 Alabama White Head
Fannie L Simpson 20 Dec 1879 Alabama White Wife
Bertha P Simpson 9/12 Aug 1899 Alabama White Daughter

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1910 United States Federal Census
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Name: Ernest C Simpson
Age in 1910: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Birthplace: Alabama
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Alabama
Mother's Birth Place: Alabama
Spouse's Name: Mary
Home in 1910: Sessums, Oktibbeha, Mississippi
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male

Ernest C Simpson 34 abt 1876 Alabama Head
Mary Simpson 31 abt 1879 Mississippi Wife
Levada Simpson 10 abt 1900 Mississippi Daughter
Floyd Simpson 8 abt 1902 Mississippi Son
Matilda Simpson 7 abt 1903 Mississippi Daughter
Gerrard Simpson 5 abt 1905 Mississippi Son
Higdan Simpson 3 abt 1907 Mississippi Son

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Melvin Simpson 23 abt 1887 Alabama Head
Lucily Simpson 18 abt 1892 Alabama Wife

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World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
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Name: Earnest Curt Simpson
County: Tuscaloosa
State: Alabama
Birth Date: 4 Jan 1876
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1509472
Nearest Relative: Mary Simpson

Mamie Welch

catfish09 — 2009-09-30 20:03:21Z

My G-Grandfather's brother married a lady named Mamie Welch who the family say came from Pickens Co., Alabama. She was born in 1894. She married J.D. Baker in about 1915 and moved to Phenix City, Alabama.

Mamie Baker died in July, 1975, in Opelika, Alabama. Her obituary lists four sisters: Maggie, Annie, Clara, and a fourth sister, not named.

I am looking to find who the parents were for Mamie Welch and her four sisters. Can you help me please? Thanks.

Charles

Re: Descendants of Dodson/Dotson

TXMiss1 — 2009-09-23 22:25:40Z

Someday on our travels back through TX I would like to meet you. I agree with your about Bill. I would love to have had someone in business like him when I was working.

Take care.

Shelia

Re: Descendants of Dodson/Dotson

cringo111 — 2009-09-22 19:17:25Z

I am the distant cousin. Bill is a remarkable gentleman. I hope some day to find all the answers about the Ringo family but it will take much perseverance. Thank you for the reply.
C.M. Ringo

Re: Descendants of Dodson/Dotson

TXMiss1 — 2009-09-22 17:29:08Z

So you are the distant cousin that Bill said he was going to see in the spring. I had dinner with Bill and his wife in March while we were staying at a state park on Lake Texcoma. I have no information of my gr-grandmother Ringo or her parents, my gr-gr-grandparents. My grandfather's mother died in childbirth or shortly after his birth. That's when her cousin came to help gr-grandfather Peter's with his care and than married him shortly after. This is Bill's side of the family.

This information about this family is really a brick wall for me.

Any information you find that can assist me will be appreciated.

Shelia

Re: Descendants of Dodson/Dotson

cringo111 — 2009-09-22 04:23:53Z

Do you have any old pictures,obituary,info of Elenore's parents. I trying to find out where Abraham and Sarah are buried. I was hoping your GGgrandmother might have an old photo of a cemetery that has small stones and near 2 large oak trees,possibly being the Ringo Family Cemetery in Red River County,TX. I take care of this cemetery. Wm K Barnard reestablished this cemetery after it was bulldozed back in 1960s. There is now a Texas Historical marker for the Cemetery and Ferry that Peter Ringo Family operated. Any information might be helpful. Thank you.
C.M. Ringo

Re: First roll of Lamar County Alabama newspapers transcribed and online

margo122050 — 2009-09-19 01:17:38Z

Dear Veneta:

I visited the newspaper website - How wonderful!!
Thank you so much for all of your hard work and dedication! You really did a great job and a great service!
I am sure it will help many to break sown the brick wall!

Thank you again!!!

1840 Pickens County Census Online

cgayers — 2009-08-19 14:27:24Z

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The USGenWeb Census Project is pleased to announce
the completion of the following census transcription:

1840 Pickens County
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Abstracted by Buren Windle
Second Transcriber Needed
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1830 Pickens County Census Online

cgayers — 2009-08-19 14:26:31Z

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The USGenWeb Census Project is pleased to announce
the completion of the following census transcription:

1830 Pickens County
http://usgwcensus.org/cenfiles/al/pickens/1830/
Abstracted by Buren Windle
Second Transcriber Needed
[NOTE: For more information on Pickens County, Alabama,
Please visit the ALGenWeb page at
http://www.usgenweb.org/al/]

Sincerely,
Christine Graham
Webmaster, USGenWeb Census Project
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RUSSELL Family, GATES, GOODWIN

MickiBurleson41 — 2009-06-17 18:18:26Z

The 1850 Pickens Census list David 44 with wife Betsy A 43/45 with two children Caroline 21 and Russ 1. Did Caroline marry in Pickens County? Could she have married a Goodwin or a Gates? Also, what happened to Russ. I believe David & Betsy A. are listed in Franklin County Census in 1860 but Caroline and Russ are not with them. There are two other children Mary J. and Samuel age 12 now living in the household. Did this family have other relatives and possibly other children in Pickens County? Micki Burleson

Re: Joseph W. Welch

DrBabs — 2009-07-23 22:58:12Z

The Heritage of Pickens County has a W. W. Welch as Assistant Superintendent of Behlehem Baptist Church in 1860 (pg. 60)

W. W. Welch was also member of the Masonic Lode of 1860. (p. 76)

Evaline Coleman married William W. Welch. Evaline's parents were Jesse Coleman and Faithy Elizabeth (Jordan?). Jesse was born in Virginia, went to Abberville Co., SC, to GA, then to Coosa Co., AL. William was born in GA. (p 135)

Minnie Hydrick, daughter of Frank Hydrick and Felicia Cooper, married Columbus Welch. (p. 210.)

I'll add more later if this of any help.

Re: Anyone have the phone number to join genealogical society

jeanervinmills — 2009-07-18 01:52:22Z

Look in you night group Tuscaloosa Genealogy Society membership book and look up Gail House, Jean Mills or Joe Pearson. We open 1st & 3rd Wed. 9 to 2

Re: Pickens County current map

jeanervinmills — 2009-07-18 01:44:14Z

Ladies, I am at the Old Jail In Gordo (home of the Pickens Co. Gen. Society) every 1st & 3rd Wed. of the month and have been for several years. I open at 9a.m. stay normally untill 2 unless we have researchers that need to stay longer. If you email us at pickensco.gen@nctv.com 2 weeks in advance or Call Gail House at 205-364-8414 or email me dmills2554@aol.com we can make arrangements for out of towners. That can include Tuscaloosaians.

Re: James David Crawford

roadqueen1340 — 2009-09-07 23:20:40Z

Yes, these are all mine. Some of the dates are a little off but that is par for the course with these census from way back. As for the kids born before they got married, somebody else got the dates wrong obviously. After I went through and made adjustments they are OK. JD & Fannie's first child, William, was born 1874 or so and died in 1875. I didn't see anything on their one son, Alexander "Jack" Crawford in any of these census. He would have been born between 1880-86. I think I can get an obit for him from the Historical Society in Brockway. They have an obit list that says Jack died in 1934.

Thank you so much for all of your help. If you find any other things you think may be important, please let me know. Otherwise, I'll just let this go for now. Maybe the other cousins doing research will find JD's parents' names.

Re: James David Crawford

roadqueen1340 — 2009-09-06 12:18:28Z

I'm thinking these censuses are the correct people. My assumptions are that Wm. T. is the step-father and Wm. O. is the step brother of JD. (Both WT & WO buried in Union Chapel - dates seem correct.) I also assume that JD's father died before 1850 when the first census shows the children. I'm also assuming that Eugenia is JD's blood sister since in the second census her last name is Crawford. However, I'm unsure who Henry Lee Crawford belongs to since he is only 3 mo. old. (Possibly Eugenia or another of JD's siblings.) Can you find anything in 1840 census for Crawfords with Eugenia which may give an indication of JD's parents? (JD wasn't born until Aug 1840 so I assume he would not have been born when 1840 census was taken.) However Eugenia is older so she should show up if that year is available.

Re: James David Crawford

roadqueen1340 — 2009-09-06 12:04:15Z

This information certainly gives one something to think about. It looks like Wm. O. Kelsey (who may have been the step brother to JD Crawford) married a widow by the name of Williams. According to JD's obit, the step brother stayed in Alabama. If this marriage is WOK, then this proves to be true. JD died in 1922 in PA.

As for JD's civil war pension app, I do not have an ancestry sub so I'm not able to look these things up. I imagine he applied in PA and used his wife to vouch for him. I can't say.

Re: James David Crawford

roadqueen1340 — 2009-09-06 22:48:06Z

As for a pension, I don't know if he received one or not since he was only with the Union side a week (according to his discharge paper.) I doubt he would try to get one from the Confederate side (if they even had pensions available) since they may come and arrest him as a deserter!

Re: James David Crawford

roadqueen1340 — 2009-09-06 22:42:12Z

Naturally, this would have to be difficult from 1840 on back. I HATE THOSE CENSUS! I will have to study the state lines, county lines, etc. As for how the "Yankee" explained his Southern drawl, family lore says he was foraging for food in the winter and was kicking over frozen cabbages in a field when he kicked one which was actually a man's skull! He then deserted the Confederate army and went north where he joined the Union army so he wouldn't be a prisoner of war. Some of our cousins were just in Gettysburg and found muster rolls with James D Crawfords on both sides. They said that sometimes if a person deserted, their name was taken off the rolls and they were presumed dead. Other times it remained and they were listed as MIA, KIA, POW or deserter. Of course, there wasn't anything relating to his age on these rolls so it was hard to tell which JD might have been him. We have his actual Civil War discharge paper. It is so yellow and tattered but it is readable and it says he was enrolled June 23, 1865 and discharged June 30, 1865 at Philadelphia. It says he was born in NY, is 25 yrs. old, and it goes on to give a physical description (height, eyes, hair, skin, etc.) He was with Co. A, PA Heavy Artillery.

James David Crawford

roadqueen1340 — 2009-08-29 00:12:39Z

Looking for parents of James David Crawford, b. 24 Aug 1840, Pickens County, d. 19 Nov 1922 Pennsylvania. I have his obit from PA but it doesn't state anything about parents. Family lore says his father was a doctor in Alabama. James' obit says he is survived by a half brother, William Kelsey. Does anyone have Kelsey/Crawford in their line that could possibly help me?

Re: Lillie E. Jones Carr

Peachie57 — 2009-08-23 20:53:20Z

thanks so much for the information. Do you know what Dewey Carr's daughter names is? If so, please email me her name at johnwknight@centurytel.net. Telephone number would be great.

Thanks again
Peachie

Lillie E. Jones Carr

Peachie57 — 2009-08-22 16:41:20Z

Does anyone know where Lillie E. Jones Carr is buried? Lillie was bornDecember 6, 1890 died Feb. 1892 in Carrollton. Lillie was the daughter of Marvin and Nancy M. Jones. Lillie married Lottie Carr son of William Thomas and Buena Vista Windle Carr. Lottie and Lillie had 2 children; James Carl Carr born 12 August 1913 died March 4, 2002 in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Dewey M. Carr born around 1912. I found Lillie on 1920 census listed her as widow living with her parents. 1930 census list Lillie as widow. I found Lottie Carr World War 1 Draft Card, he is listed as Lattie Carr living in Lamar co. Al, on his card show he is married but seperated. I would like to find Lillie grave see if Lottie is buried in that cemetery.
I had posted some different information on Ancestry.com the other day which was wrong on Lottie Carr, just found this new information.

Your help will be appreciated.

Re: Lottie Carr

Peachie57 — 2009-08-21 02:48:08Z

Thanks you so much for your help. Great information.

Newspapers published Pickens co. 1914

Peachie57 — 2009-08-06 12:02:05Z

I am searching for obit for William Thomas Carr born 1855 died 1914. buried Marvin Chapel Cemetery.
Does anyone know the name of the newspapers published for that year in Pickens co. or would the obit be in one of Tuscaloosa Co. newspapers.
I need to find who was William Thomas Carr parents. On his death certificate he is listed as Thomas Carr. His wife name was Beuna Vista Windle.
Any informaiton will be appreciated.

Lottie Carr

Peachie57 — 2009-06-22 22:21:39Z

I am searching for any iformation on Lottie Carr(Male) born 1891, son of William Thomas and Buena Vista Windle Carr.
I believe that Lottie has a son named Carl Carr born in Carrollton, Alabama.
Your help will be greatly appreciated.

need info on Josiah Tilly,1st white settler Pickens County

bamabellesiamese — 2009-09-12 04:11:46Z

a story handed down from my grandmother is that Josiah Tilly, the 1st white settler in Pickens County, was an ancestor of my grandmother, Eula Tilley Parker.
I have read everything I can find on Josiah, but can't find a name for his wife he married in Tuscaloosa. Nor names for any children they may have had?
I have an old high school report I had written when Mamaw was still alive, that said that there was a newspaper article written about this , and the clipping was in the possession of my Great Aunt Grace Tilley,I don't know who inherited her things, and haven't been able to get any calls returned.
Nor have I located the article, although granted time has been short and I have not been able to search like I would want!
does anyone have any further info? Quite a Big Deal was made of this, so I would like to find the connection!
Thanks !

Re: ANCESTERY

TXMiss1 — 2009-08-30 02:46:27Z

Hello, in a very dated message on the message boards you mentioned of an ancestor named Maggie Atchinson. Was there also a Bertie Atchinson? Why I'm asking I have a very old photo that was given to my by a great aunt, who was blind in the late '60s. I have a picture that on the back reads Bertie Atchinson and Maggie. I do not have any idea if they are distant relatives of mine or night. My Erwin - Sanford families were from AL. My branch moved to TX and AR. in the late 1800's.

If you ahve a Bertie and a Maggie Atchinson in your ancestry than email me a message with your email and I'll email you a copy of the photo front and back.

Regards,

Shelia W.

Re: James David Crawford

aurina — 2009-09-07 00:21:37Z

well, what a cool story. and glad u have the pension paper; what a treasue.
here is more
there is also a james d crawford, 38th infantry, alabama and more. used to be , u had to send for these, or go to d.c. nice that they are online.
you posted
"Yes, my JD Crawford was married to Frances Moody from PA. His obit said they married in 1873 however I think that may be wrong. He had 2 children born before 1873 and I doubt that would have happened back then. Either that or the children's births were wrong. I "assume" they married in PA since her family is all from Jefferson County, PA and that's where they stayed."
what children were born before 1873? ( and not that unusual in the hinterlands. traveling clergy may come thru every 3 mos, or 3 yrs. so u get the 3 yr old and the baby baptized and get married all at the same time)
1870 (havent found james for sure 1870)
Fannie Moody
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Age in 1870: 17
Birthplace: Ireland
Home in 1870: Snyder, Jefferson, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Female
Post Office: Brockwayville
John Moody 42
Sarah Moody 57
Fannie Moody 17
John Moody 15
Isaac Moody 13
William Moody 11
Robert Moody 9
Ann Moody 7

James D. Crawford
Home in 1880: Spring Creek, Elk, Pennsylvania
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Birthplace: Alabama
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Fannay
Occupation: Works In Sawmill
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
James D. Crawford 40
Fannay Crawford 27
Archie Crawford 4
Howard Crawford 3
Edith A. Crawford 1

Home in 1900: Brockway, Jefferson, Pennsylvania
Age: 59
Birth Date: Aug 1840
Birthplace: Alabama
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Spouse's Name: Fannie
Marriage year: 1872
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 28
Residence : Brockwayville Borough, Jefferson, Pennsylvania
James Crawford 59 b aug 1840 married 28 yrs owns house free of mortgage, born alabama to parents b ireland (doubt it, looks like parents place of birth copied from wifes)he is a watchman at coal mine.
Fannie Crawford 49 b ireland june 1851, came here 1867, 33 yrs ago, had 7 kids, 6 are alive.
Edith Crawford 21 at school (?) apr 1879 pa
Willis Crawford 17 day laborer b pa may 1883
Robert Crawford 15 jan 1885 ata schoo

James D Crawford
Age in 1910: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Birthplace: Alabama
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Ireland
Mother's Birth Place: South Carolina
Spouse's Name: Fannie
Home in 1910: Brookville, Jefferson, Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
James D Crawford 69 on main st no job married once for 36 yrs, b alabama to father b ireland, mother s.c
Fannie Crawford 59 came here from ireland 1864
Robert Crawford 25 works on motor train
John Moody 57 naturalized, came from ireland 1864

Re: James David Crawford

aurina — 2009-09-06 01:38:20Z

i do not have ancestry complete sub, however, w.o. kelsey marriage record at alabama marriages, 1809-1920-maybe his mothers name there. william kelsey may be your key to james crawford
1880 he is a miller, living w the chappelle family in pickens county, he is single

ancestry Alabama Marriage Collection, 1800-1969

Name Spouse Marriage Date County View Image (no image)

W O Kelsey Mrs W A Williams date Pickens

1900
Name: W O Kelsey
Home in 1900: Pickensville, Pickens, Alabama
Age: 50
Birth Date: Sep 1849
Birthplace: Alabama
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to Head of House: Step Father
[Stepfather]
Father's Birthplace: Alabama
Mother's Birthplace: Alabama
Marital Status: Widowed
Residence : Pickensville, Pickens, Alabama
G T Williams 22 farmer, head of house
Sallie Williams 24
Wallace W Williams 20
W O Kelsey 50 step-father, widowed, born alabama sept 1849
Nellie B Kelsey 9 1/2 sister to head, b july 1890

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~alpicken/pcoakgrove.htm KELSEY WILLIE A. 1855 1896 wife of W. O. KELSEY

William O Kelsey
Age in 1910: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Birthplace: Alabama
Relation to Head of House: Stepfather
Father's Birth Place: South Carolina
Mother's Birth Place: South Carolina
Home in 1910: Carrollton, Pickens, Alabama
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George T Williams 32
Onnie G Williams 31
William O Kelsey 60

didnt james david list in his civil war pension app anyone from "home" to vouch for who he was?

Re: James David Crawford

aurina — 2009-09-05 23:38:55Z

here is a possibility, and i do realize the hazard offorcing square peopel into round facts-but it is something to ponder - - - -
Home in 1850(City,County,State): Southern District, Pickens, Alabama
Household Members: Name Age
indexed by ancestry as kelseys, one and all, but the actual, original, has no last names, or dittos- only the head of household, wm, is actually indentified as a kelsey.
Wm Kelsey 44 farmer b s carolina
Elizabeth Kelsey 42 b sc
Emily Kelsey 19 b sc
Susan Kelsey 17 b alabama as are the others
John C Kelsey 12
Eugenia Kelsey 14 female
James D Kelsey 10
William Kelsey 0

Home in 1860: Southern Division, Pickens, Alabama
Gender: Male
Post Office: Carrollton
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members: Name Age
William Kelsey 54 farmer b s.c.
Elizabeth N Kelsey 51 b sc
William O Kelsey 10 b ala
Eugene E Crawford 22 female alabama
Henry Lee Crawford 3.12 alabama
there is a long list of other names in ancestrys index that are not actually on the orig page.
something to think about.union chapel cemetery online
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~alpicken/pcunionchc.htm
KELSEY W. O. 1849 1923 none (no comments)
KELSEY WILLIAM T. 1805 1869 Kershaw Dist., S.C.
1855 census pickens co KELSEA, William 3111 http://www.trackingyourroots.com/data/pickns55.htm

Re: James David Crawford

aurina — 2009-09-06 22:06:01Z

would that i could find eugenia in 1840-,life should be so simple! but all census prev to 1850 run like this-name of head of household, then columns-#of males in the house under 5, # 5-9, # 10-14, 14-, etc, no names. same for females. i, as you do, believe that wm t is the stepfather. as such, he prob was not married into this family much before 1850 as indicated by the birth of his so, wm kelsey. so whose name would i look for in 1840? crawford, head of household? alabama or south carolina? was james father head of household, or were they living, perhaps with one of james grandparents? there are 60 crawford heads of house in s c in 1840, and a good numder of johns and james,3 davids, 2 "e crawfords" etc. there is a john crawford in pickens district, pickens co, s.c. he has in his house, not nesc related, just living with him, one male age between 10-14, one age between 15-19, one male 40-49 . females 1, age 15-19. so u have to do this until u get one u think might fit, and try to find info. maybe u pick the correct one, maybe not. u try again. 52 pickens in 1840 alabama, only one in pickens co-if they were even ther. now u have to do some research as to how the state boundries may have changed between 1840, 1870, to see if yes, some were born sc, but then it may have become alabama-that the state lines moved (or didnt) but the people stayed in the same town.
yes, henry lee is an interesting ad on, isnt he. i cant find him in future census, but i am still looking.
why do u think james david started out with the confederates and changed to the union? wonder how the "yankee" explained his southern drawl. at your local genealogy library, u can prob access footnote.com. i dont have it, but our library does, but i couldnt get there until tues, if then. go there and u will see (sort of, u have to pay to be able to really read it, ) 2 james d crawfords, 1 abt age 22,1 age 19, who signed up in 1863 -alabama cavalry, union muster rolls, from nara in d.c.
what do james discharge papers say exactly. when and where he enlisted? when and where he wa discharged? form infantry? cavalry? and where did u get the paers. also, i could be wrong, but i think he'd need more than his wifes tetimony to get a pension, she didnt even know him then.

Carden/Cardin Family (Jordan) Alabama

bjc814pareo — 2009-06-08 19:02:40Z

I am researching this information for my cousin - her mother's side of the family. She is from the Jordan Carden line, through his son Vardy and Vardy's son M. V. Carden. I have learned alot about them in Mississippi (Vardy and son M.V.) but need some more to complete the picture. Any one with info on Jordan, Vardy and M.V. Carden would be much appreciated. Especially pictures anyone might have of any of this line (brother's, sister's, uncle's doesn't matter) my cousin has no pictures of this side of the family, at all. Thank you, Betty

Re: Lottie Carr

Joyce1812va1 — 2009-08-21 01:19:45Z

Lottie Car is found twice in the census.
once as a child, last as an adult

1900 Speed Mills, Pickens, AL
CARR:
Thomas 41 b. nov. 1855-AL parents born in SC
Buena V 56 b. Nov 1864 AL.. parents born in AL
Lottie 8 b. July 1891-AL
Alin 7 b. Feb 1893
Merie 4 b. 11/1895
John 3 b. 8/1896
William 2 b. feb 1898
Charley 3months b. 02/1900

I spelled as on the census
then Lottie is found in
1930 Pamama City FL
age 37, widow, listed as a boarder.. occupation.. SAW MILL

I hope this has helped you

Re: Lillie E. Jones Carr

BButler330 — 2009-08-23 20:15:48Z

In the Pickens County Cemetery book, I found a Lillie E. Carr mother of Dewey 1890-1972 buried at Crossroads which is outside Carrollton.

I found a William T. Carr 2-17-1859 3-13-1914 buried at Marvin Chapel between Gordo and Carrollton.

I think Mr. Dewey Carr's daughter lives in Aliceville.

Mary Hughes Butler

Re: Carden/Cardin Family (Jordan) Alabama

BButler330 — 2009-06-09 13:26:35Z

If your Vardy is Vardaman C. Carden and his son is Melvin Van, please contact me at BButler330@aol.com.

Vardaman is my GGreat Grandfather, John Berry Carden's brother. Their parents were Jordan and Hettie Ann Watson Carden.

Mary Hughes Butler

Re: Thomas Jefferson Cohen 1840 Pickens County, Alabama

mymistyhollowfarm — 2009-08-27 21:52:40Z

Thomas Jefferson Cohen is the son of Jemima Cohen, on the 1840 Spartanburg Co., SC census. Jemima wasn't married and is the daughter of Joseph and Rachel Cowen, on the 1790 and 1800 Union Co., SC census. (My ancestors). A brother to Jemima was Thomas Cohen. You will see the name spelled Cowen, Coan, Cohen, etc. They were illiterate and the census enumerator spelled it however he wanted each time.
This is my grandmother's family and she said they were Jewish, so the spelling should be Cohen. It is possible that they came from Maryland after the Revolution. I have been to Union and found land records for Joseph and Rachel, where the children, Thomas and Jemima, signed their portions to sell after Joseph's death. Joanne Brown

Re: Joseph W. Welch

ask4welch — 2009-07-23 23:41:38Z

Thank you. I wonder if this could be another child of Joseph W. Welch. I do know that the sons of Joseph W. Welch that I know about -- Thomas Columbus Welch (my g-grandfather) and his brother, Joseph Powell Welch -- were staunch Masons. Many of the men in the family had the Masonic emblem on their tombstones. Joseph was in Georgia before Alabama -- there must be some connection. I'll study on this a while. Again, thank you.

Joseph W. Welch

ask4welch — 2009-07-14 20:22:55Z

My great-great-grandfather was Joseph W. Welch, who came to Pickens County in 1840. His wife was Elizabeth, and her last name was possibly Risener. He died in Pickens County in 1857. A Nicholas Welch, born in 1825 in Georgia, died in 1850 in Pickens County, and I believe that may have been his son. I am looking for any information about him. I know for sure that three of his children came with him to Alabama: Joseph Powell, Thomas Columbus (my g-grandfather), and Mary E. I would like to know the names of his other children, what his middle name was, and who his father was.

Need Information On Cotton Family From Pickens County Al.

jodad1911 — 2009-08-09 23:09:16Z

Information on the Cotton's from Pickens County Al

Does anyone know if all these families were related?
Does anyone know where they were from before 1830?
Does anyone know where they were in later years?

Abner Cotton
Alexander Cotton
William A. Cotton
William E. Cotton
Abner Cotton
Gardner Cotton
James G. Cotton
John W. Cotton
Stephen Cotton
Richard Cotton