I don't know if you have Herbert Elmer's information from the Harold Tichenor book, but here it is:
Herbert Elmer Tichenor was b March 5, 1882 in Port Orford, OR. His parents were Jacob Brinkerhoff Tichenor b. Mar 2,1843 near Newark, NJ d. Mar 20, 1889 OR. and Mary Elizabeth Grant England b. Aug 27, 1851 in Wright Co. MO d. Nov 17,1936 in Myrtle Point, OR. They had 11 children with Herbert being the 9th child.
Herbert married Mabel Wiegle on Aug 27, 1903 in San Bernardino, Ca ; divorced; married 2nd Zina _________ and changed his name from Tichenor to Irish, and located in Cedar Rapids, IA. He was for many years an advanced agent for a traveling carnival.
He had two children:
1. Alice Margaret, m Fred Lafferty. She was adopted by her father's sister, Anna, and her husband Thomas Guerin. She graduated from San Jose Teacher's College, San Jose, CA. She taught school for a number of years in the OR school system. She and her Husband retired and where living in Brandon, OR in 1987.
2. Son, no data available
Hope this helps.