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Re: Where are old CA newspapers archived pls?

stephsgenealogy — 2013-05-17 20:11:27Z

I believe there is a state library in Sacramento. You can contact Colleen Norby for more information. Her email is cadi-list-mom@sbglobal.net
Stephanie

Where are old CA newspapers archived pls?

pmitsh — 2013-05-16 22:42:33Z

Hi
Does anyone know where the largest CA newspaper archive is in CA.? Where there are copies of old CA newspapers? Thank-you.

Re: obituary lookup for Marjorie Bresee Newton please 11-21-1983

stephsgenealogy — 2013-05-08 18:49:01Z

Hi

You can request a copy of Marjorie's obituary from Foster library in Ventura. They have the Ventura Star on microfilm and will do up to 5 look-ups for you at no charge.

Their email is reference.librarian@ventura.org

If they don't respond, get back to me and I'll check for you next time I'm downtown.
Stephanie
stephsgenealogy@aol.com

Marjorie Bresee Newton , CA 11-21-1983

ELLinSpain — 2013-05-07 09:48:14Z

would they have a copy at the cemetery

Forest Lawn Memorial Park (Glendale)
Glendale
Los Angeles County
California, USA
Plot: Kindly Light, Map B11, Lot 838, Space 2

Name: Marjorie Bresee Newton
[Marjorie Bresee Bresee]
Social Security #: 567189908
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 9 Aug 1894
Birth Place: Nebraska
Death Date: 21 Nov 1983
Death Place: Ventura
Mother's Maiden Name: Edgar
Father's Surname: Bresee

1900
Name: Marjorie Bresee
Age: 5
Birth Date: Aug 1894
Birthplace: Nebraska
Home in 1900: Rushville, Sheridan, Nebraska
[Sheridan]
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Charles P Bresee
Father's Birthplace: Iowa
Mother's Name: Anna Bresee
Mother's Birthplace: Wisconsin
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Charles P Bresee 39
Anna Bresee 40
Almeda C Bresee 14
Frank P Bresee 12
Gertrude B Bresee 10
Alvin E Bresee 8

1930
Name: William Newton
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1890
Birthplace: Iowa
Race: White
Home in 1930: Hay Springs, Sheridan, Nebraska
View Map
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Marjorie Newton
Father's Birthplace: Illinois
Mother's Birthplace: Illinois
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Name: Marjorie Newton
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1895
Birthplace: Nebraska
Race: White
Home in 1930: Hay Springs, Sheridan, Nebraska
View Map
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Newton
Father's Birthplace: Iowa
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Name: Thelma Newton
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1913
Birthplace: Iowa
Race: White
Home in 1930: Hay Springs, Sheridan, Nebraska
View Map
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
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Name: Gertrude J Newton
[Tertrude J Newton]
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1917
Birthplace: Nebraska
Race: White
Home in 1930: Hay Springs, Sheridan, Nebraska
View Map
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
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Name: Charles P Newton
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1926
Birthplace: Nebraska
Race: White
Home in 1930: Hay Springs, Sheridan, Nebraska
View Map
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son

Name: Thelma Newton
Birth Date: 30 Dec 1912
Birth Place: Washington twp
Gender: Female
Christening Place: Ringgold, Iowa
Father's Name: William Newton
Father's Age: 22
Mother's Name: Margery Brazee
Mother's Age: 18
FHL Film Number: 1035019

1940
Name: Marjory B Newton
Respondent: Yes
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Nebraska
Marital Status: Divorced
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California
View Map
Street: Highland
House Number: 18/35
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 63A
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 494
Occupation: Drapery Dept
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 33
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 3rd year
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 40
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 52
Income: 1490
Income Other Sources: No
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Name: Charles Newton
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1925
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Nebraska
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son
Home in 1940: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California
View Map
Street: Highland
House Number: 18/35
Inferred Residence in 1935: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 63A
Occupation: Distributer
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Name: Jean Goddard
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1916
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Nebraska
Marital Status: Divorced
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Home in 1940: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California
View Map
Street: Highland
House Number: 18/35
Inferred Residence in 1935: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 63A
Occupation: Stenographer
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 4th year
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 40
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 26
Income: 468
Income Other Sources: No

The post above is unanswered. Still looking for obituary. Thanks

kjblackburn2 — 2013-05-07 09:25:00Z

Still need obituary

Re: Marjorie Bresee Newton , CA 11-21-1983

kjblackburn2 — 2013-05-07 09:22:27Z

Ell, if you give a reply for a post that you don't have what is being looked for, then others who can provide it will overlook the post thinking that it has been answered correctly. I have all of what you posted because I have Ancestry World Explorer. Sending to a cemetery costs money and they may or may not have it and they might not reply back if they don't. Also, who knows what that cemetery might charge in excess of the postage. Many are free but some charge a lot.
Respectfully, Ghost

obituary lookup for Marjorie Bresee Newton please 11-21-1983

kjblackburn2 — 2013-05-06 02:10:59Z

Thanks

Camarrillo State Hospital death records

gwenmotherhen — 2013-04-28 19:33:36Z

I just finished reading " The Keeper of the Keys, by Nadine Scolla. I am also reading " They Call Them Camisoles Revisited". It is scary how the patients were treated, especially knowing that my mom was subject to it.

Over and over in the books it states that the staff did not care about the "crazy people". Most were there for the money and perks they got. They also state that many deaths were unreported or cause of deaths were not given.

As I sit here transcribing funeral records, which include people from Camarrillo State Hospital, I see how true that is. Not one of the people, who has passed away there, has any death information listed. No causes of death or certifying doctor. This makes me sad, but glad my mom made it out alive.

Hopefully there is someway for these peoples families to find out how they passed, so they had closure.

Re: Obituary Lookup Minnette Parker Please

mdsmith251 — 2013-04-21 20:26:31Z

Thanks, Stephanie. I have contacted them. Fingers crossed that they find one and it has the answers.

Re: Obituary Lookup Minnette Parker Please

stephsgenealogy — 2013-04-21 19:35:56Z

Hi

You can contact Foster library in Ventura for an obituary look-up - they don't charge a fee and allow up to five requests per patron.

Their email is reference.librarian@ventura.org

Stephanie

Re: Obituary Lookup Minnette Parker Please

mdsmith251 — 2013-04-21 12:09:28Z

Thank you. These are all records I already have for this couple. I'm really looking for an obit because family thought that Sherman's wife was still living in 1970, so was surprised when the CA death index came up from 1957. Therefor, I would like the obit to determine 1 if she was the right Minnette Parker, which she appears to be, and 2 if a previous marriage was listed. Family stories say she was married before Sherman, but I was unable to find any record of it. Thanks again.

Minnette Noles Parker, TN > CA

ELLinSpain — 2013-04-21 06:31:39Z

Name: Minette Parker
[Minette Noles]
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 9 Mar 1907
Birth Place: Tennessee
Death Date: 20 Jul 1957
Death Place: Ventura
Mother's Maiden Name: Abbott
Father's Surname: Noles

1940
Name: Sherman S W Parker
Respondent: Yes
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Tennessee
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California
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Street: Landa Street
House Number: 2359
Inferred Residence in 1935: Camden, Tennessee
Residence in 1935: Camden, Tennessee
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 11B
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 317
Occupation: Elevator Operator
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 25
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 4th year
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 48
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 52
Income: 1200
Income Other Sources: No
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Name: Minette Parker
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Tennessee
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Home in 1940: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California
View Map
Street: Landa Street
House Number: 2359
Inferred Residence in 1935: Huntington, Tennessee
Residence in 1935: Huntington, Tennessee
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 11B
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 4th year
Weeks Worked in 1939: 0
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: No
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Name: Elsie Noles
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1919
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Tennessee
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Home in 1940: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California
View Map
Street: Landa Street
House Number: 2359
Inferred Residence in 1935: Huntington, Tennessee
Residence in 1935: Huntington, Tennessee
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 11B
Occupation: Stenographer
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: College, 1st year
Duration of Unemployment: 9
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 45
Income: 675
Income Other Sources: No

Name: Shurman Winfield Parker
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 13 Sep 1903
Birth Place: Faxon, Benton
Father: John Calvin Parker
Mother: Annie E Robins

Name: Sherman Winfield Parker
Social Security #: 565149992
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 13 Sep 1903
Birth Place: Tennessee
Death Date: 10 Oct 1982
Death Place: Riverside
Mother's Maiden Name: Robbins

Name: Sherman Parker
SSN: 565-14-9992
Last Residence: 92240 Desert Hot Springs, Riverside, California, United States of America
Born: 13 Sep 1903
Died: Oct 1982
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)

Obituary Lookup Minnette Parker Please

mdsmith251 — 2013-04-20 15:09:55Z

Looking for someone willing to look up an obituary for Minnette Parker who died in Ventura County 20 Jul 1957. Unfortunately, I don't currently have a town. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Re: HALL

glidercat54 — 2013-04-13 18:32:31Z

Hey Ricky, This is to confirm your info on Mary E. Hall.
She is buried at Ivy Lawn Cemetery in Ventura, CA. Her headstone says: Mary E. Hall, b 1918 d 1997 "In God's Loving Care". Ivy Lawn has a website, that now includes pics of headstones. Hope this helps! ReBecca

Harry Blacy Jr. of Ventura, CA 1943

drbrownlee — 2013-04-08 04:45:41Z

Harry is pictured in the Torque, yearbook of the 43-J training class of flight cadets at Pecos Army Air Field. He is a flight cadet in Squadron 9. I'm not kin but thought this might help someone researching the family.

Looking for Elsie West

thammill — 2013-04-03 06:20:00Z

I am looking for Elsie West. She went to Hueneme High and may have graduated around 1966. Her Dad was in the Air Force as Oxnard and her Mother was of German descent. She is a girlfriend not forgotten but lost to time and travels. If you have any info please let me know.

Re: Camarillo State Hospital

provec — 2013-04-02 23:06:30Z

Hi Maryiola, I sent you a private message a while back about Camarillo and was wondering if you got it or if I did something wrong in routing it. Was wondering if you knew my Mom who was a teacher there.

Tx,

Rob

Re: Camarillo State Hospital

shannonware_1 — 2013-04-02 15:47:03Z

You were a wonderful caregiver. I can only hope that my mother had someone like you watching over her. But, the fact remains that there were other things going on there and yes, a cemetery. My sister visited last year.

You can be proud of your work and nothing takes away from what you did and all the large and small kindnesses.

Re: Camarillo State Hospital

MonicaSheridan88 — 2013-04-02 02:41:30Z

Hi Maryiola - thanks so much for taking the time to write. I think Shannon may have been referring to a gravesite that is not actually at Cam - I read an earlier post that mentioned a cemetery that the John/Jane Does from Cam tended to go to. Maybe she was referring to that.

It's very comforting to know that you and others were so caring with the patients. I have absolutely no doubt you made a difference. I wish I could think that you were there when my grandmother was but it was nearly 70 years ago. Hopefully she was shown some kindness then too.

Re: Camarillo State Hospital

Maryiola — 2013-04-02 02:05:36Z

It sounds like a different Cam. than I worked at for 25 years and that my husband worked for 38 years. To my knowledge,there was no graveyard at Cam.I never heard of one. I myself reverently prayed for the dying, sat with them, cried for them and prepared their bodies for their final trip to the County they were from for burial. Each patient had an assigned admission number,The first were sent there in 1938 from Metro. I knew several of those men. They were not mistreated.Some were violent and dangerous but most were not. There was something worth knowing in each of them, Some we loved and some we didn't but we treated them with the best knowledge and treatments of the time.
They had families and if they didn't then WE were their family. Yes, some weirdo's got jobs there and were sadistic but they didn't last long. After being retired for more time than I worked, I think often of quite a few of those I was fond of. I wonder if they are alive or dead and I miss the work. Maybe in 25 years I made a difference.

Re: Camarillo State Hospital

shannonware_1 — 2013-04-02 00:51:31Z

Hi Monica, thanks for reaching out. I actually have read that book. There is a nice person on the board who worked there in and around the time my mother was there who showed lots of compassion to patients. Given what she told me, I suspect experiences varied greatly depending on the individual staff they came in contact with. Some were very lucky and others not so much. Camarillo was a bit notorious.

There is a grave site there containing many, many jane and john does. My mother could be there - or not but California seems to have no sense of morality related to making things right and doing DNA tests. Yes, that means digging up graves but families interested have a right to pursue, if they desire. I and my entire family wants to know.

Best of luck to you! Shannon

Re: Camarillo State Hospital

MonicaSheridan88 — 2013-03-31 22:05:42Z

Hi Shannon - I have read all your posts with great interest. My grandmother spent a short period of time in Camarillo sometime in the early 1940s. I have had no success getting records for her and considering how old they would be I suspect I won't but I will try some of your suggestions regardless. It's interesting that it can be easier over the phone than in person - I would have guessed the opposite!

With regard to your comments and Gwen's about wondering what the experience of Camarillo would have been like, I'm wondering if you have heard of the book "They Call Them Camisoles". It was written by a woman named Wilma Wilson who spent time there around the same time my grandmother would have, and for the same reason - alcoholism. It's very descriptive of her experience and even illustrated with her own little pictures she has drawn. A fascinating read. It has recently been republished and is available on Amazon.

Cheers,
Monica

Re: Camarillo State Mental Hospital

MonicaSheridan88 — 2013-03-31 21:02:18Z

Hello Gwen - I'm wondering if you ever contacted Metro and if you had any luck. I am trying to find my grandmother's records of her stay in Camarillo and haven't had any luck. Was curious what your experience has been - or anybody's experience for that matter!

Cheers,
Monica

Re: Camarillo State Hospital

shannonware_1 — 2013-03-23 19:55:33Z

One more thing: If they went to Camarillo, its highly unlikely it was voluntary. If you get records, the circumstances as to why she was there will be in them.

Re: Camarillo State Hospital

shannonware_1 — 2013-03-23 19:53:07Z

I bet you can get info - just bite the bullet and call. Like I said, I found on the phone the employees were compassionate and willing to stretch things. Its federal laws that have gone too far and sometimes used to hide behind. There is a book written by Steve Luxenberg called Annie's Ghosts. Its a true story of this journalist who was searching for info on an aunt he didn't know existed and had been put into hospital care. It gives you a very good idea of what was going on in the hospitals and the thing that hit me was what he experienced trying to get info and what was said to him was nearly verbatim what my family and I experienced. His aunt had some kind of disability so somewhat different but experiences the same.

Sorry to hear about your mom but at least you know more about what happened. There is no documentation anywhere to document what must have happened to my mom. Interestingly, mom also married during one of her "between hospital" time frames. She might have met him in the hospital as he had his own issues. Oddly, we were able to trace him a bit and found he died an indigent with no mention of a wife and no divorce records. Anyhow, I suspect that it was frightening and lonely for folks in those kinds of conditions and probably clung to what comfort they could.

Re: Camarillo State Hospital

gwenmotherhen — 2013-03-23 19:33:33Z

This year I have found out a lot more about my mom. The years she was there were narrowed down to 66-68. I no longer believe she went there voluntarily, at least the 2nd time. These two stints in the hospital were not too far apart. I am not sure how long the first one lasted. In the short few months she was out of the hospital she got married, I'm not sure who he was, had a relapse and was sent back. The marriage was annulled while she was in the second time. After about 4 months I was told she convinced the doctors she was better and was released to the care of my dad, her 1st ex-husband. She wasn't though because a few weeks later, after her release, she took her own life.
It would be nice to validate the information. Too bad they
make it so hard to get the information now.
Gwen

Re: Camarillo State Hospital

Maryiola — 2013-03-23 18:28:43Z

I worked there in the 60's the care we provided was what was recommended at the time. I am aware of one pregnant female, A Jane Doe... After awhile a Psy. TEC from Metro recognized her. I do not remember her name . I was told that if a patient was pregnant they went to a local hospital to deliver or were sent back to the county from which they were admitted This is vague,but what I remember So I saw one pregnant female in 25 years.

Re: Camarillo State Hospital

shannonware_1 — 2013-03-23 16:58:22Z

P.S. To be fair and for clarification, the early release thing was due to political changes and pressures, not poor hospital practices. There were plenty of health care workers and DRs. who were angry and saddened by having to do that.

Re: Camarillo State Hospital

shannonware_1 — 2013-03-23 16:24:42Z

I would definitely try then given you have a death cert and SS. Call, and see what you can get. You will scare them off if you mention the pregnancy right off so I would see what you can get first, just to get records (that in my opinion the family is entitled to) and maybe in a second call see if there is anything about your potential sibling.

I was actually able to talk to a doctor who had signed paperwork on my mom back then in Texas. He didn't remember my mother but talked about the severity of the drugs in the day and that they likely had an affect on shortening life expectancy. I bring this up because, depending on what your mom's condition was, those drugs might have affected a pregnancy. Also, there were some less than OK practices going on at Camarillo and other similar hospitals in the US during that time. Therefore, another reason those administrators just don't want hassles years later. In my mom's case, it was clear they were releasing her too early - barely getting her stabilized and then out she went. So, there was that end of the spectrum as well in terms of care.

Good luck in your search! Shannon

Re: Camarillo State Hospital

stephsgenealogy — 2013-03-23 03:12:09Z

I checked the birth index for males born to Mom LYNN in Ventura County in 1968 (or is Lynn your Mom's middle name?)
Michael Gentile was born in 1967, but his Mom's first name was Bettie.
There was also Michael Willis born in 1961 - his Mom's name was Hilda.
Per ancestry.com the only other male born in the 60s to Mom Lynn was just listed as "Allen," born 12/4/1963. I tried to find this birth on the Ventura Co birth index but it wasn't listed.
You might want to try the Recorder's Office, they can probably do a more thorough check of the birth index for you.
Stephanie

Re: Camarillo State Hospital

gwenmotherhen — 2013-03-21 19:45:08Z

Unfortunately for me, anyone who would have gardianship has past away too! No way to find out who it is or where the papers might be.
I have a copy of her death certificate and a as number, for my mom . Not sure it will get me anywhere though.

Re: Camarillo State Hospital

shannonware_1 — 2013-03-21 17:20:42Z

Hi there, get ready for a mind mindbogglingly frustrating experience.

First, you need to find if anyone in your family was formally assigned as guardian and/or executor for you mother. You need that paperwork and that person needs to be the one requesting documents from the hospital - start with Camarillo since you know she was there. If you have no formal documents, you will have to get something from an attorney (maybe even declaring your mother dead if you have no death cert. )as due to HIPAA regs, they won't give up documents without something CYA for them. Do this as quickly as you can as the records are being destroyed routinely due to age. The other tip I will give you is to call and ask for the records. They will accept faxed documentation. Whoever you get in the documents department, tell them first that you have a document authorizing release and will gladly fax etc. Give a quick version of the family story. I have found that they want to help and give info, even if they stretch the rules. If you go in person, you will get nothing but resistance and you will be told that HIPAA precludes providing documents even though they are dead. (which of course is insane by itself)I don't know why but believe me, that is the way it is.

If you have a social security number, they can scan online for all the mental hospitals in California to see if your mom was in more than one. You might be able to get more info than anticipated then, perhaps even about a birth. As to the State of New York, try the same approach if you can identify the hospital.

The odd thing is we asked for docs from the California hospitals a couple of times over the years - asking for them all and while we got mostly duplicates, we always got a couple of things that we didn't get in the prior request.

I would also recommend a private investigator after you have done what you can yourself especially if you have the SS number. They can usually check out the last time social security checks were sent and the address. Might be able to help with finding if there was a live birth related to your sibling.

For my family, it is a continuing mystery how our mother got from California to Texas and back. Its also a mystery as to when and how she died (we assume she is dead at this point and took legal steps to declare her so)

It's a travesty and I suspect an unintended consequence of the HIPAA laws to apply to the deceased. There are many, many families who are looking for lost loved ones.

I wish you the best of luck. If you are serious about this search, again, time is of the essence.

Take care, Shannon

Re: Camarillo State Hospital

monkeydharma — 2013-03-21 16:44:01Z

Hi- My mother, Phyllis Lynn, was also in Camarillo State Hospital in the later 1960's. I was told she had a baby boy while there. She had asked my uncle to adopt the boy, which he agreed to, but then that never happened for some reason, and next thing they knew, she was at a different psych hospital in New York. She has since disappeared-- no one has heard from her since the early 70's, and no one knows what became of the boy, who would be my half-brother. Is there any way to track children born at Camarillo? Unfortunately, I don't have a birth date for him-- just someone's fuzzy recollection that it was around 1968 or so.

Re: LAURA B SWARTZFAGER married WALTER R SWARTZFAGER in 1961

ELLinSpain — 2013-03-13 12:25:04Z

goes like:

Laura B Robertson nee Crandall married SWARTZFAGER (2nd marriage - 2 entries for him under borth her names)

then married Robert Williams - then ,,,, cannot find an additional marriage in CA

Re: LAURA B SWARTZFAGER married WALTER R SWARTZFAGER in 1961

ozomaha — 2013-03-13 11:59:14Z

Thank you ELLinSpain. I have found this information on Ancestry.com. I don't know if Laura B Robertson, Laura B Crandall, and Laura B Swartzfager are all the same person. What really puzzles me is in 1981, in her mother's obit, Laura B is listed as Mrs. Fred Downs of Whittier. I cannot find Eleanor Louise Crandall, her sister either. She was listed as Mrs. E.W. "Jack" Robertson. I don't know if the paper has the two switched in the obit.

Thank you for looking up so much information. I do appreciate any help.

Re: LAURA B SWARTZFAGER married WALTER R SWARTZFAGER in 1961

ELLinSpain — 2013-03-13 11:33:38Z

MARRIED TWICE

Name: Laura B Crandall
Age: 38
Est. Birth: abt 1923
Spouse Name: Walter R Swartzfager
Spouse Age: 33
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1928
Date: 18 Mar 1961
Location: Los Angeles
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Name: Laura B Robertson
Age: 38
Est. Birth: abt 1923
Spouse Name: Walter R Swartzfager
Spouse Age: 33
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1928
Date: 18 Mar 1961
Location: Humboldt

Name: Walter Ray Swartzfager
Birth Date: 16 Aug 1927
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Lauffer
Birth County: Los Angeles

Name: Walter Ray Swartzfager
Social Security #: 566260141
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 16 Aug 1927
Birth Place: California
Death Date: 11 Feb 1994
Death Place: Ventura
Mother's Maiden Name: Lauffer

1940
Clem A Swartzfager 55
May L Swartzfager 47
Earl E Swartzfager 20
Ruth E Swartzfager 16
W Roy Swartzfager 12
Whittier, Los Angeles, California

1930
Frank G Crandall 33
Eleanor A Crandall 32
Laura Bella Crandall 7 B IA
Eleanor L Crandall 4
Montebello, Los Angeles, California

Name: Laura B Crandall
Age: 41
Est. Birth: abt 1923
Spouse Name: Robert F Williams
Spouse Age: 42
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1922
Date: 27 Jun 1964
Location: Los Angeles

Janice L Hauck Gourley, SD > CA

ELLinSpain — 2013-03-12 10:06:43Z

not what you asked for but may help

Name: Janice L Gourley
Social Security #: 571308850
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 8 May 1926
Birth Place: South Dakota
Death Date: 22 Apr 1967
Death Place: Ventura
Mother's Maiden Name: Moore

Seattle and Tacoma, Washington, Passenger and Crew Lists of Airplane Departures
Name: Janice L Gourley
AGED 27
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Aberdeen, South Dakota
Arrival Port: Yokohama
Departure Date: 18 Oct 1952
Departure Port: Seattle, Washington
Ship: General Hugh J Gaffey
WITH
NANCY L GOURLEY AGED 2 BORN MERCED, CA

Name: Nancy L Gourley
Age: 18
Est. Birth: abt 1951
Spouse Name: James V Marasco
Spouse Age: 21
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1948
Date: 26 Sep 1969
Location: Ventura

Name: Nancy Lou Gourley
Birth Date: 14 Sep 1950
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Hauck
Birth County: Merced

Name: Nancy E Marasco
Birth Date: 16 Jun 1951
Phone Number: 255-3632
Address: 141 Derby Ave, Seymour, CT, 06483-3146 (1994)

Re: Camarillo News Obit Lookup

stephsgenealogy — 2013-03-12 02:28:25Z

You can contact the Camarillo library for a obituary look-up - their email is askus@camarillolibrary.org

Stephanie

LAURA B SWARTZFAGER married WALTER R SWARTZFAGER in 1961

ozomaha — 2013-03-12 02:05:24Z

LAURA B CRANDALL age 38 married Walter in 1961. The Laura Belle Crandall I am seeking was born in Iowa 10 Dec 1922 to Dr. Frank Guilford Crandall and Eleanor Anderson Crandall (Wahoo,NE).

Ron Osborn 402-319-1162 ronoz@cox.net

Camarillo News Obit Lookup

uviolet1 — 2013-03-11 04:10:14Z

I'd be very appreciative if someone could look up an obit that appeared in the Camarillo News on 24 Apr 1967, of Janice Lorraine Hauck Gourley, who died 22 April 1967.

Thanks very much!

Re: Charley Hall

glidercat54 — 2013-02-19 22:03:16Z

Thank you for the info! It's amazing how one bit of info can help. I never thought of Piru. A few mos ago, after having searched Bardsdale Cemetery for yrs, I found grandmother in the Santa Paula Cemetery. Of course, she was right there all of the time. My husband kept telling me, Bardsdale. Again, thank you for the tip, and good luck in your search. ; D

Re: Early Presbyterian Church in Filmore

imasue42 — 2013-02-19 17:24:40Z

Thanks so much! I really appreciate your help. Sue

Re: Charley Hall

prynsess518 — 2013-02-19 11:02:42Z

There is a W.M. Hall, died 1881, buried in the Piru Cemetery. Don't know if that might be another relative, but perhaps it's a clue.

Re: Early Presbyterian Church in Filmore

prynsess518 — 2013-02-19 10:02:41Z

Here you go.

Re: Early Presbyterian Church in Filmore

imasue42 — 2013-02-18 21:46:15Z

Thanks so much for your reply. Would you be willing to send me the pictures of the graves that you found? I certainly would appreciate that as I live in Idaho. Thanks, Sue Wood

Re: Early Presbyterian Church in Filmore

prynsess518 — 2013-02-18 11:50:52Z

I was actually at the Bardsdale Cemetery today. Believe it or not, I actually photographed the headstone of Glenn & Luella (they are buried together). Byron is buried there also & there is a very nice family plot. Here is the obituary:

SAD ACCIDENT AT WILEY’S LAKE – Five Persons Drowned by the Capsizing of a Raft, All Residents of this County – Funerals Wednesday at Filmore and Camarillo

Monday morning while bathing in Wiley’s Lake, a summer resort near Piru, five persons were drowned and three barely escaped with their lives. The victims were Mrs. Wiley and her daughter Glenn, aged 11; Miss Lulu George, aged 22; Belle Sisson, aged 13 of Springville; and Carl Davies of Oxnard, aged 9. Besides those who were drowned, Mr. Broderick, a brother-in-law of Mrs. Wiley; Mr. Davies, father of the boy that was drowned; Mr. Dunn of Hueneme; and little Willie Wiley, a boy of 6, were in the water.

To one who has visited Wiley’s Lake, it seems impossible that such a small sheet of water could be the scene of such a tremendous tragedy. It is barely an acre in size and deep only in a few places. For fathers, a raft has been placed in the water, moored to the shore by a rope. As the edge and shallows of the lake are grown with tulles, the bathers get on the raft, push it out to the center, and bathe from it. In some way the raft was tipped, and the women and children, losing their head, rushed in a body to the opposite side, when of course it capsized.

The only person in the crowd who could swim was J. P. Davies, and the raft when it capsized was forty feet from shore, and when it again righted itself after dropping its load, was twenty feet from the bathers. Mr. Davies attempted to save his son, but the others grabbed him and he went down under water. Almost suffocated, he was forced to let go of his boy and fight the others off. Then, by the aid of a camper named Dunn, they saved the 6-year-old son of Mr. Wiley and young Broderick, but the others were past rescue.

A number of campers witnessed the catastrophe, but it was all over before they realized what had happened. Immediately steps were taken to recover the bodies. Those of Belle Sisson, Lulu George, and Glenn Wiley were brought to the surface in about half an hour, the three being clasped together as they had gone down. It was several hours before the bodies of Mrs. Wiley and Carl Davies were recovered.

Coroner Reilly of Ventura was notified and took the five o’clock train for Buckhorn, the station on the railroad nearest the scene of the tragedy. When he arrived, the bodies had been recovered. The coroner immediately held an inquest. The following persons were sworn as jurors: O. S. Harvey, Geo. McDonald, D. E. Lane, L. P. Guiberson, W. S. Robinson, Emil Hasier, and C. M. Ring. They rendered a verdict of accidental death by drowning in accordance with the above facts.

Mr. Wiley was prostrated by the fearful accident which had cost him the loss of a wife and daughter, and a friend was required at his bedside for several hours. Miss George is a sister of Mrs. Fernandes of Montalvo; Miss Sisson, daughter of Emerson Sisson, well-known in the valley; and J. P. Davies, father of Carl Davies, lives a little way out from this city. The unfortunate victims have other relatives in the county and many friends and acquaintances who were severely shocked at the sad occurrence.

The remains of Mrs. Wiley and child were conveyed to Filmore where they were interred from the Presbyterian Church Wednesday at 10 AM. The bodies of Misses Sisson and George and Carl Davies were brought to Camarillo, where the largely attended funeral was held Wednesday afternoon from the Baptist Church, Rev. Beckhardt officiating. Three white caskets were lowered at once in the Pleasant Valley Cemetery.

Re: Camarillo State Mental Hospital

FowlerMcCarthy — 2013-02-11 21:32:12Z

Hi. Is your friend still around and did she work there in 1954 by chance?

Re: Clyde Alton Twilley, Ventura Co., California

JAYSHORE — 2013-02-07 19:48:04Z

You are correct, cannot change the spelling on old documents/census and we will never know who the actual informant was that gave the information on the census,to the census taker, only the name of the census taker is given. I thought you might want the correct spelling for your personel files as this Twilley/Twilly family is my direct line that I have been researching for 46 years. If I can help you I will be happy to share.

Re: Clyde Alton Twilley, Ventura Co., California

ELLinSpain — 2013-02-06 08:59:35Z

Good Morning Jayshore,

I copy, verbatim, from records I find & I'm afraid I cannot alter the spelling/s that show on that/those records - sometimes its the actual person that originally gave that info, sometimes the transcriber of that/those records

Re: Clyde Alton Twilley, Ventura Co., California

ELLinSpain — 2013-02-05 10:44:28Z

Name: Clyde A Twilley
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 26 Apr 1886
Birth Place: Arkansas
Death Date: 20 Jan 1960
Death Place: Ventura
Mother's Maiden Name: Marshall

1900
Name: Clyde A Twelly
Age: 14
Birth Date: Apr 1886
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1900: Jefferson, Independence, Arkansas
[Independence]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Marques L Twelly
Father's Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother's Name: Harriet R Twelly
Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee
+
Marques L Twelly 54
Harriet R Twelly 47
Eldora M Twelly 17

1910
Name: Clyde Twilley
[Clyde Tevilley]
Age in 1910: 23
Birth Year: 1887
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1910: Jefferson, Independence, Arkansas
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Elsie Twilley
Father's Birthplace: Missouri
+
Name: Elsie Twilley
[Elsie Tevilley]
Age in 1910: 23
Birth Year: 1887
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1910: Jefferson, Independence, Arkansas
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Clyde Twilley
Father's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee
+
Name: Leatress Twilley
[Leatrice Tevilley]
Age in 1910: 2
Birth Year: 1908
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1910: Jefferson, Independence, Arkansas
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter

Name: C A Twilley
Gender: Male
Age: 20
Birth Year: abt 1886
Residence: Independence
Spouse's Name: Elsie Wolf
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse's Residence: Independence
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1906
Marriage License Date: 22 Dec 1906
Marriage County: Independence
Event Type: Marriage
FHL Film Number: 1288740

1920
Name: Markis L Twilly
[Marcus Lafayette Twilly]
[Marks L Twilley]
[Walker L Levally]
Age: 73
Birth Year: abt 1847
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1920: Bokchito, Bryan, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Harritte R Twilly
Father's Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother's Birthplace: Arkansas
Home Owned: Own
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
+
Name: Harritte R Twilly
[Harretta R Twilley]
[Harritte R Levally]
Age: 67
Birth Year: abt 1853
Birthplace: Tennessee
Home in 1920: Bokchito, Bryan, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Markis L Twilly
Father's Birthplace: North Carolina
Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
+
Name: Clyde A Twilly
[Clyde A Twilley]
[Clyde A Levally]
Age: 33
Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1920: Bokchito, Bryan, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Widowed
[Widow]
Father's Name: Markis L Twilly
Father's Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother's Name: Harritte R Twilly
Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
+
Name: Letres I Twilly
[Ledia C Twilley]
[Letres I Levally]
Age: 12
Birth Year: abt 1908
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1920: Bokchito, Bryan, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Granddaughter
+
Name: Thida E Twilly
[Shida E Twilley]
[Thida E Levally]
Age: 6
Birth Year: abt 1914
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1920: Bokchito, Bryan, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Granddaughter
+
Name: Elsie K Twilly
[Elsie K Twilley]
[Elsie K Levally]
Age: 2
[2 3/12]
Birth Year: abt 1918
[abt 1917]
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1920: Bokchito, Bryan, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Granddaughter

1930
Name: Clyde Twilley
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Arkansas
Race: White
Home in 1930: Tucson, Pima, Arizona
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Marital Status: Widowed
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother's Name: Harriet Twilley
Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee
+
Name: Hilda Twilley
[Theda Twilley]
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1914
Birthplace: Arkansas
Race: White
Home in 1930: Tucson, Pima, Arizona
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Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: Clyde Twilley
Father's Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother's Birthplace: Arkansas
+
Name: Cathleen Twilley
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1918
Birthplace: Arkansas
Race: White
Home in 1930: Tucson, Pima, Arizona
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Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: Clyde Twilley
Father's Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother's Birthplace: Arkansas
+
Name: Harriet Twilley
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1853
Birthplace: Tennessee
Race: White
Home in 1930: Tucson, Pima, Arizona
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Marital Status: Widowed
Relation to Head of House: Mother
Father's Birthplace: North Carolina
Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee

1940
Name: Harriet Twilley
Respondent: Yes
Age: 87
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Tennessee
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Pinal, Arizona
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Street: Fifth Street
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: Rural, Pinal, Arizona
Residence in 1935: Rural, Pinal, Arizona
Resident on farm in 1935: Yes
+
Name: Clyde Twilley
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Arkansas
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Son
Home in 1940: Pinal, Arizona
View Map
Street: Fifth Street
Inferred Residence in 1935: Rural, Pinal, Arizona
Residence in 1935: Rural, Pinal, Arizona
Resident on farm in 1935: Yes
Sheet Number: 9A
Occupation: Carpenter
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 48
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 40
Income: 1,200
Income Other Sources: No

Name: Marcus L Twilley
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birth Year: abt 1847
Residence: Independence, Arkansas
Spouse's Name: Harriet R Marshall
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 16
Spouse's Residence: Independence, Arkansas
Marriage Date: 17 Jan 1869
Marriage County: Independence
Event Type: Marriage
FHL Film Number: 1288646

Name: Marcus L. Twilly
Birth Date: 1846
Birth Place: Clendeon
Death Date: 1920
Death Place: Sandtown, AR
Type Practice: Allopath
Practice Specialities: Highrock, AR, 1887, Sandtown, AR, Aug 28, 1917
Licenses: AR, 1887
Practice Dates Places: Highrock, AR, 1887, Sandtown, AR, Aug 28, 1917
Education: Common school
Death Notice Info: Sandtown, AR, Jan 10, 1925, J. M. Smith
Cause of Death: senility

Name: Harriet Rebecca Marshall Twilley
Birth Date: 23 Nov 1852 TENN
Age at Death: 94
Death Date: 26 Mar 1947 TX
Burial Place: Highland Park Cemetery, Borger, Hutchinson
County, Texas
Widow of Dr. Marcus de Lafayette Twilley of Sandtown, Independence Co., Arkansas. He died Sept 10, 1921, buried Bokchito, Bryan Co., Oklahoma. Macus de Lafayette Twilley age 22 and Harriet Rebecca Marshall age 16 were married Jan 17, 1869, Sandtown, Independence Co., Arkansas.
Their children are: Mary Alice Twilley 1871--1959 married Wm M."Bill" Milligan, William Joseph Twilley 1873--1930 married Esther Jeremiah, Ulysses Jay "Jack" Twilley 1877--1950 married Maggie Etta Abliene Southworth, Eldora "Dora" Twilley 1882--1958 married Armstead Washington Milligan, (2nd marriage to O.V. Allen--no children) Clyde Alton Twilley 1886--1960 married Elsie Wolfe.
Harriet Rebecca Twilley's parents are Wm. Newton Marshall and Charlotte Elizabeth M. Cummingham.

WW1 DRAFT
Name: Clyde Alton Twilley
County: Independence
State: Arkansas
Birth Date: 26 Apr 1886
Race: White