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James Hamilton & Elnora Gilmore

jah564 — 2009-10-28 22:44:57Z

I am looking for any information on my gf&gm James Hamilton abt 1885 and Elnora Gilmore abt 1888 in Georgia. They are listed in they are both listed in the 1925 Kansas census as husband and wife. I believe they migrated to Little Rock, Arkansas which is where my father Anderson was born.

Re: marriage, about 1894--RAINS to RICHEY

lanaff — 2009-10-22 06:25:35Z

I have checked DeKalb, AL marriage records and E. P. Richey and Dovie Rains are not found there.

Re: marriage, about 1894--RAINS to RICHEY

sefealko — 2009-10-22 00:56:33Z

Lana,

I don't have a marriage record for you, but the 1900 census listing for Eleazar and Viola's family says that their first son, Charles F., was born in AL. All of the family was born in AL; just Eleazar's parents were born in GA. They were in DeKalb Co., AL, in Precinct 17/Grahams on p. 148. If you looked for it and didn't find it, probably it's because Eleazar's name is spelled Ellazor. I found them by using this search engine: http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home

Actually what happens with this search engine is that you get way more hits than you want, and then you have to whittle them down. I just tried Viola Phillips, and then asked for the 1900 census in their Collections. You then can bring up the original sheet by clicking on the "picture."

You were right--Eleazar and Viola were married about 1894, and Charles F. was born in August 1895. I would imagine that they were married right there in DeKalb Co., AL.

Sue Ellen Fealko

Decendants of L. L. and Eddie Lee Chisholm

rlchis — 2009-10-15 16:02:45Z

Looking for any and all relatives.

Re: marriage, about 1894--RAINS to RICHEY

lanaff — 2009-09-05 17:36:15Z

Alabama, Georgia, and Tennessee (and probably others) have a De Kalb or DeKalb County. I am speaking of DeKalb, AL.

Need marriage info on Viola Rains who md Eleazer Phillip Richey, both of DeKalb, AL and Jackson, AL which adjoin one another. E. P. Richey died in Jackson Co and farmed there about 30-40 years.

Re: marriage, about 1894--RAINS to RICHEY

nhuff5981 — 2009-09-05 17:03:27Z

Dekalb County is in Ga near Atlanta Fulton County but there
maybe a Dekalb in Ala as well.

marriage, about 1894--RAINS to RICHEY

lanaff — 2009-09-04 18:27:42Z

I am looking for the marriage record of Eleazer Phillip Richey to Viola Dovie Rains abount 1894. There first son was born in 1895 either in GA or AL. His parents were in Hall Co., GA until about 1869 when they moved to DeKalb County, AL. I have looked in Jackson Co., AL and in DeKalb, AL without any success. Even if you don't find anything, a reply will be helpful to me.

Thanks for your help.
Lana

Re: James Claude Morris and Lucy M Ghorley

cooper3k1 — 2009-08-17 05:32:25Z

This is so great, thanks for replying. Anything that you can help me with will be greatly appreciated. My brickwall is finding out who James Claude Morris' father was. My grandmother was telling me that his names was Samuel, but I am finding nothing at all in the census bureaus. My grandmother is Janie L. Morris, sister to Albert and the other siblings. She was born April 14, 1930. She is still alive but it is hard for her to remember everything. She told me that He was married to Lucy his first marriage, then he married another lady named Lucy (her mother.) According to the census bureaus, it seems correct.
I am sorry that you father recently passed away.
Please keep in touch and let me know if you find anything else.

Charlotte

Re: James Claude Morris and Lucy M Ghorley

cooper3k1 — 2009-08-17 05:23:40Z

My grandmother confirmed that James Claude Morris was married to 2 different Lucy's and the first 2 children were from his first marriage to the first Lucy.

Re: James Claude Morris and Lucy M Ghorley

stevereneemccoy — 2009-08-16 21:55:21Z

this was my great grandfather also. my grandfater john earl morris was from first wife (i'll find out her name) but his second wife was the sister of first wife. i knew marthmay and some of the others on your list. when i was small we would go to kingston ga and visit. my father john earl morris jr just died may 25, 2009. jo ann died a few years back. daddy always took us by gretgranddys farm in cleveland TN. Albert died many years ago. i also remember clarance he had a son clarance jr his family still resides somewhere close to kingstone ga. they have a christian band i don't remember names. my aunt virignia who is in her late 70's has pictures and names i'll get with her. its hard because some where along the lines an cherokee indian woman comes in. somehow one of the men married her and gave her and english name.

Searching for

atlame — 2009-07-20 20:08:57Z

William J. Smith (born May 1865) and Alice Smith (born Feb. 1865 in Coweta County, GA) had 8 children Elnora (Born Jan. 1891), Berleta or Veleta (born May 1892 and married Richard Allen), Cornelius (born March 1893, Luther (born Sept. 1894), Beuna or Emma Beuna (born Sept. 1895), Beatrice (born Sept. 1897), Fred (born Aug. 1899) and Lilly Mary (born 1902, married Howard Winn or Wynn). All the children were born in Coweta County. Some later migrated to Fairburn, Campbell County (which is now Fulton Co.), GA. Some migrated to Sharpsburg, GA (which is in Coweta County, GA). Some migrated to College Park, GA (which is in Fulton County, GA). Some migrated to Atlanta, GA and I thinks some remained in other regions of Coweta County, GA. I am searching for the decendants of William and Alice's 8 children. Please respond sincerely if you are a decendant or have anything to offer to help me with my search.

dodge

francescarolyn — 2009-07-08 16:41:54Z

benjamin: sons: dob 1875? william robert & twin (deceased infant), Mercer, Plummer, J.B., and daughters: Hattie Belle, Myrtice.

Re: Watkins, Atwell, Freeze

Tinall70114 — 2009-06-30 14:25:19Z

I SAW YOUR POST MY NAME IS TINA LESTER.MY MOTHER INLAW IS A WATKINS BORN IN GEORGIA, HER FATHER WAS CHOICE WATKINS.WOOTON WATKINS IS WHO YOU NEED TO FIND. 5TH GERATION OF THE WAKINS,EADY,LESTER,ALL OF GEORGIA AND FLORIDA JACKSONVILL IS WHERE MY FATHER WAS BORN, FOLLOW YOUR ROOTS FROM THERE. TLL

Anthony,Antony,or Authur born 1830 in Georgia

belva360 — 2009-06-30 10:11:11Z

I am looking for any information on Anthon or Author Daniels whom was as per the 1900 census resided in Texas born is showing to have been born in Georgia as well as his parents. I have no knowledge of his parents names or if he had siblings.

In the census he is found under Anthon Daniels but when you pull the document is clearly looks like Author Daniels. Anthon or Authur is my ggg grandfather. He married Syliva and I do not have her maiden name. But they are the parents of my gg grand mother whom is Mattie Daniels whom's son Alvin Daniels was my grandfather.

I am searching for any relatives and hoping to find out if my ggg grandfather had any siblings.

Anthon (Author) Daniels born in 1830 in Georgia

belva360 — 2009-06-29 01:45:33Z

Re: Bessie Elizabeth Holder Brogdon

debbie9301948 — 2009-06-03 22:16:19Z

Norma
I dno't know how to say this but this part of the family has nothing to do with us. All I know is my cousin's husband's name was Charles. I am sorry. I have not done any reserch into this part at all because they are uncooperative.

Re: Bessie Elizabeth Holder Brogdon

Rosegardener — 2009-06-03 17:35:49Z

Does your line of Brogdons include Eli/Elly Brogdon of Berrien County, GA? He was b. about 1822 and his first 3 children were John, James, and Helen. If so, I would love to compare notes with you. Thanks!

surname Glisson

drabhart — 2009-05-21 23:29:02Z

I'm looking for a Jackie Glisson who at one time was married to a Blocker. She was from Georgia (I think) and they lived in Georgia. Had a son and were later divorced.

Dotty

Re: Samuel Morgan

Charles_Logan — 2009-05-02 18:16:41Z

Hello, My Morgans are in Nelson Co KY as well, and Samuel is the only Morgan there, according to the recreated 1790 census. In 2000 James Harris posted a Bible listing for a Samuel & Rachel Huffman Morgan & family - I'm interested in their dau, Nancy b. 1792. My Nancy Morgan married a Smith, then a Morgan cousin, then moved to OH & m. a William Clayton. By the 1880 census, her son, James Clayton, says she was b. KY. Nancy's Morgan dau,Elizabeth Ann, was b. "near Bardstown" in 1818. The 1800 rebuilt census says the only Morgan in Nelson Co is a William Jr. Any hints well be a help. Chuck Logan, Westerly RI p.s. Mr. Harris was also interested in Susannah, who apparently married a Pryor.

Re: Samuel Morgan

Charles_Logan — 2009-05-03 16:53:12Z

Hi, thanks for the response. No rush - I've been plodding
along for years, now. crlogan@cox.net , Chuck Logan

Re: Samuel Morgan

BWhobrey — 2009-05-03 15:03:49Z

Charles,

I have not worked on the Morgans for years and need to update what I do have. If you send me your email address I will email you privately and send you what I have on the Morgans.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Re: Info on Rose Mary, Lawrence B, & Angela Quinan

attocat — 2009-02-17 16:10:49Z

If you're not familiar with death certificates, you may find that they can provide a lot of family info.

They usually provide the obvious "death" info, such as the person's full name, age, address, marital status, race, death date, death place, funeral home, burial date, burial place, death cause, length of final illness, attending physician, informant, etc.

Even better, though, they often provide the person's birth date, birth place, parents' birth places, informant's relationship to the person, etc.

Maybe even more!

And they're usually fairly cheap sources of info, probably under $10 each in most states.

Might be worth looking at.

Good luck!

Re: Info on Rose Mary, Lawrence B, & Angela Quinan

attocat — 2009-02-16 22:06:24Z

Do you have the death certificates for the appropriate QUINAN people?

Exact Search Results - Georgia Deaths, 1919-98
You searched for Quinan Refine your search

All Birth, Marriage & Death Results Viewing 1-13 of 13

View Record Name Death Date Age County of Residence County of Death
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Daniel T. Quinan 27 Jan 1925 Chatham
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Mrs. Elesh Quinan 15 Dec 1925 Chatham
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N D Quinan 25 Jan 1931 Chatham
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William J Quinan 17 Mar 1950 71 years Chatha Chatham
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C E Quinan 14 Jul 1954 78 years Chatham Chatham
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V T Quinan 23 Sep 1960 80 years Chatham Chatham
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L B Quinan 30 Oct 1963 45 years Chatham Chatham
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Anne A Quinan 02 Oct 1965 62 years Chatham Chatham
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Louise B Quinan 14 Feb 1970 83 years Chatham Chatham
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William J Quinan 11 May 1976 65 years Chatham Chatham
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Winifred E Quinan 21 Jun 1977 80 years Chatham Chatham
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William J Quinan 21 Jul 1988 30 years Chatham Chatham
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Ina R Quinan 05 Aug 1995 87 years Colquitt Chatham

Exact Search Results - Florida Death Index, 1877-1998
You searched for Quinan Refine your search

All Birth, Marriage & Death Results Viewing 1-5 of 5

View Record Name Death Date County of Death Age at Death Race Birth Date View Image Order Record
View Record

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Name: Anne Eliz. Botsford Quinan
Death Date: 1940
County of Death: Dade
State of Death: Florida
Race: White
Gender: Female

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Anne Eliz. Botsford Quinan 1940 Dade White
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Caroline Meredith Quinan 12 May 1986 Manatee 79 White 20 Apr 1907
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Edward B Quinan 26 Jul 1994 Polk 94 White 24 Apr 1900
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Georgia Quinan 26 Sep 1984 Polk 84 White 23 Jan 1900
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Johnstone Hamilton Quinan 30 May 1972 Sarasota 68 White 26 Mar 1904

Might help some, especially the Georgia ones.

Good luck!

Re: Info on Rose Mary, Lawrence B, & Angela Quinan

attocat — 2009-02-12 23:06:46Z

Here's your starting point:

1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Lawrence B Quinan
Home in 1930: Savannah, Chatham, Georgia
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1918
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: William J
Mother's Name: Louise G
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William J Quinan 52
Louise G Quinan 44
Louise G Quinan 17
Rose M Quinan 14
Lawrence B Quinan 12
Anglela E Quinan 7

Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Savannah, Chatham, Georgia; Roll: 344; Page: 25A; Enumeration District: 62; Image: 768.0.

Source Information:

Ancestry.com. 1930 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2002. Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1930. T626, 2,667 rolls.

Description:
Containing records for approximately 123 million Americans, the 1930 United States Federal Census is the largest census released to date and is the most recent census available for public access. The census gives us a glimpse into the lives of Americans in 1930, and contains information about a household’s family members and occupants including: birthplaces, occupations, immigration, citizenship, and military service. The names of those listed in the census are linked to actual images of the 1930 Census.

Good luck!

Re: Robert M . Whitehead 1883

attocat — 2009-01-29 01:12:43Z

Here are a few odds and ends of info which you probably already have.

1900 United States Federal Census

Name: Robert M Whitehead
Home in 1900: Waresborough, Ware, Georgia
Age: 17
Birth Date: May 1883
Birthplace: Georgia
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Father's Birthplace: Georgia
Mother's Name: Lizer
Mother's Birthplace: Georgia
Marital Status: Single
Residence : Waresboro Town, Ware, Georgia
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Whitehead 69
Lizer Whitehead 60
Robert M Whitehead 17

Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Waresborough, Ware, Georgia; Roll: T623_227 Page: 14A; Enumeration District: 88.

Source Information:

Ancestry.com. 1900 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004. Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Twelfth Census of the United States, 1900. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1900. T623, 1854 rolls.

Description:
This database is an index to individuals enumerated in the 1900 United States Federal Census, the Twelfth Census of the United States. Census takers recorded many details including each person's name, address, relationship to the head of household, color or race, sex, month and year of birth, age at last birthday, marital status, number of years married, the total number of children born of the mother, the number of those children living, birthplace, birthplace of father and mother, if the individual was foreign born, the year of immigration and the number of years in the United States, the citizenship status of foreign-born individuals over age twenty-one, occupation, and more. Additionally, the names of those listed on the population schedule are linked to actual images of the 1900 Federal Census.

1910 United States Federal Census

Name: Mook Whitewood
[Mack Whitehead]
Age in 1910: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Georgia
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Alabama
Mother's Birth Place: Alabama
Spouse's Name: Emma
Home in 1910: Militia District 1256, Ware, Georgia
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mook Whitewood 27
Emma Whitewood 20
Thelma Whitewood 5
Brantley Whitewood 3
Leon Whitewood 1

Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Militia District 1256, Ware, Georgia; Roll: T624_214; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 177; Image: 1137.

Source Information:

Ancestry.com. 1910 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006. For details on the contents of the film numbers, visit the following NARA web page: NARA Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Thirteenth Census of the United States, 1910. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1910. T624, 1,178 rolls.

Description:
This database is an index to the head of households enumerated in the 1910 United States Federal Census, the Thirteenth Census of the United States. In addition, each indexed name is linked to actual images of the 1910 Federal Census. The information recorded in the census includes: name, relationship to head of family, age at last birthday, sex, color or race, whether single, married, widowed, or divorced, birthplace, birthplace of father and mother, and more.

(Emma is his wife.)

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

Name: Robt M Whitehead
City: Not Stated
County: Ware
State: Georgia
Birth Date: 30 May 1882
Race: White
Roll: 1558668
DraftBoard: 0
Age:

Occupation:

Nearest Relative:

Height/Build:

Color of Eyes/Hair:

Signature: View Image

Source Citation: Registration Location: Ware County, Georgia; Roll: 1558668; Draft Board: 0.

Source Information:

Ancestry.com. World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. Original data: United States, Selective Service System. World War I Selective Service System Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. M1509, 4,582 rolls.

Description:
This database contains an index and images of World War I draft registration cards completed by approximately 24 million men living in the U.S. in 1917 and 1918. Information that may be found for an individual includes: name, place of residence, date and place of birth, race, country of citizenship, occupation, and employer.

(Wife is listed as Emma.)

Good luck!

SEARCHING BRYANT FAMILY MEMBERS

ANGELA4BRYANT — 2008-11-26 09:24:25Z

NEED INFOR ON ANTHONY BRYANT, BORN IN ALABAMA,1856, HIS MOTHER NAMED WAS MILLIE, BORN IN VIRIGIN,IN 1842, FATHER BORN IN GEORGIA. ANTHONYS WIFE WAS JULIANN, BORN IN, 1856 IN ALABAMA. CHILDREN NAME WERE:
MATTIE-1891
EMMA
ROBERT
HENRY
FAMILY MEMBERS IN GEORGIA, SHED SOME LIGHT ON ANTHONY PARENTS, AND POSSIBLY, THE INDIAN TRIBE THEY WERE FROM?

Re: Goins Family

goinsmb — 2009-01-20 04:20:18Z

Yes Thomas had 5 brothers and 1 sister. I am Blaine Goins. I can give you information on your father.

Re: Goins Family Bible

tdbrimer — 2008-12-14 02:55:43Z

i have been trying to findout the parents of Robert H Gowin
supposed to be born in Jefferson Ark. in 1828
he died in a civil war camp eithe from contaminated drinking water or measle outbreak in ark. he is buried in Rondo Cem. near Texarkana 15 sep 1862 i have seen where one of his sons says he was born in Ga. helived in Tex in the Emory Rains area any sugestions?

Kent _ Davis

mmoore012 — 2008-11-24 12:04:31Z

I am searching information on Samuel William Kent Jr who died in Douglasville, Ga Jan 1 2001. He died the same day he moved there. He has a daughter named LeAnn Davis that lives there and he moved to be near her. I am hoping for an obit or someone who might know her so I can get info on that family. Please e-mail me at mooremartha@hotmail.com.

Escanaba - places to stay???

Tazzsu — 2009-04-27 08:44:44Z

I really want to get up to Esky this summer with my teenage son... and if possible bring my dog too - although that's NOT a necessity. I know I could round up a crew of folks and camp @ Wells Park.... but I'd really like to stay in town - or near town if possible.

Can anyone SUGGEST A HOTEL or other "GOOD" place to stay in or around ESCANABA that doesn't charge an arm and a leg?? Money IS a huge consideration. If gas prices skyrocket, I won't be able to make the 7 hr drive unless I've planned quite frugally.

Any suggestions appreciated... but please know, I am really uncomfortable staying somewhere unless it's DECENT and CLEAN.

Also... what is in or around Escanaba that might interest 14-15 y/o boys??? Are there any waterparks or amusement parks within an hour of Esky? Anything else you can think of??? Certain sites someone "just has to see" ???

My dad was born and raised in Esky as was his mom & my mom's mom. My mom's dad was raised in Esky from the time he was a few yrs old.... but I haven't been up there since the early 70s.

Any advice or ideas will be appreciated. Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

Re: Escanaba - places to stay???

Tazzsu — 2009-04-29 02:26:41Z

Thanks I totally know where I posted me query. The reason is that the trip will be made for genealogical purposes, and I would like to hear from someone FROM the area. Those people DO tend to read this board. I don't want a traveller's perspective, but I appreciate the advice.
I already have read many reviews on places to stay in the area... but that doesn't compare to a local person's knowledge.
Thanks for your input

Re: Cooks in Georgia

stwoolf — 2009-05-12 14:48:53Z

He also married a Elizabeth Robertson or Roberts. The application for the dawes roll have Roberts down.

Re: Cooks in Georgia

stwoolf — 2009-05-12 14:47:21Z

I'm also looking for information on him. My great grandmother is Ellen cook Langston. In 1902 she tried to get her kids and her self on the dawes roll. She claim that Daniel Cook was indain.

Looking for hyde-miller Re. nancypeace59-john crawford

CassieBrewerKelley53 — 2008-11-20 15:30:16Z

I am also looking for these people,,john crawford is my great grandpa,,please email me at cassie_brewer2002@yahoo.com,,,thank you for you kindness and time,,take care God bless you and your loved ones,,Cassie

Re: Joseph Brown, Tenn. Pioneer

dbanistuci — 2009-05-04 08:12:04Z

I was very interested to read the letter written by Joe Frazier Brown and submitted by princessjasmine_tx Joseph Brown is part of my husbands' family history and I had never read this letter before. I am thankful that the letter was submitted for our enjoyment and study.

Joseph Brown, Tenn. Pioneer

DorothyDuff25 — 2009-05-04 19:54:46Z

The Joseph Brown Story has been copied and posted with the permission of the Tennessee Historical Society from the "Tennessee Historical Quarterly" for use on the Delta Genealogical Society and Dekalb Co.Genealogical Society(Alabama) web sites. (Permission per Ann Toplovich, THS.) NOT TO BE COPIED FOR OTHER USES WITHOUT THE EXPRESSED PERMISSION FROM THE TENN. HISTORICAL SOCIETY.

COPYRIGHT 1973, BY THE TENNESSEE HISTORICAL SOCIETY; (USED WITH PERMISSION) The THS is a not-for-profit membership organization; information on the THS can be obtained by e-mailing tnhissoc@isdn.net.

Copied September, 2000 by Lana Floyd (DeKalb Co., Alabama Genealogical Society) from the original publication by THE TENNESSEE HISTORICAL SOCIETY.

THE JOSEPH BROWN STORY:
PIONEER AND INDIAN IN TENNESSEE HISTORY
By C. Somers Miller

The central theme of Tennessee history before 1794 was the struggle of the pioneer to wrest his own survival from a hostile wilderness. Historians have not failed to note that this struggle very often took the form of a series of bloody incidents on the frontier between pioneer and Indian.

One of the most often recorded episodes of the frontier was that of Joseph Brown, immigrant to the old Southwest in 1788. Captured by the Cherokees, he was later released but returned to pilot an expedition to destroy the Indians' Five Lower Towns where he had been held prisoner. He finally settled in Maury County, Tennessee, where he lived until his death in 1868. His longevity and eagerness to tell of his experiences rewarded nineteenth century historians who sought from him a description of life on the Southern frontier. His story became one of the most often repeated episodes in Tennessee history of this period.

In attempting to tell the Joseph Brown "story," historians have described the character of the pioneer and the Indian. This paper will examine several accounts of the Joseph Brown "story" written in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. It is my thesis that the frontier character has not remained a static concept but has, through the years, been interpreted in at least three different ways, and further that the narratives reflect the constant esteem of the Southern historian for his region's past.

The Cherokees and the American settlers in the transmontane area of North Carolina were the cause of much concern during the Revolutionary War. American revolutionary leaders worried that Indian presence in this area might hamper trade with New Orleans and block communication with American posts on the Mississippi and Ohio. The frontier settlements of Watauga, Nolichucky, and on the Holston were considered by the British to be in violation of the Proclamation Line of 1763, which forbade colonists to settle west of the Appalachians, and represented a threat to British authority in the area.

In the competition between the Americans and the British for the Cherokees' favor, the British were successful. Hoping to cause the withdrawal of frontier support from the southern American armies, Lord Cornwallis formulated plans in 1780 for an Indian attack on the settlements. The Cherokees and Chickamaugas began a number of raids on white settlements which were countered by expeditions upon the Indians led by John Sevier. The result was constant strife in that part of the west.

The Treaty of Hopewell, written in November, 1785, was an attempt to make peace with the Cherokee and other Indian tribes which had sided with the British. Although the negotiations defined a boundary between lands of the Indians and the settlers, efforts at such adjustment came too late: settlers and land-hungry speculators, following successful treaty writers, had already spilled over into Indian regions. A boundary line which divided two peoples became an area of "claims and counter-claims, of raids and counter-raids, of land occupied in some places by white and red men alike. It was a frontier of depth and trouble."

Sevier's expeditions against the Cherokees, though highly praised by some historians, made pioneer life more troublesome. A large band of belligerent Cherokees had been forced southward down the Tennessee River where they joined a smaller group of Chickamaugas. Living in a number of villages clustered around the Tennessee, known as the Five Lower Towns, and located not far from present-day Chattanooga, they were soon strengthened in their mountain bastion by the addition of groups from the Creek and Shawnee tribes. This location made matters worse for the settlers because the Five Towns were the center of Indian water communications and near the Great Indian Warpath which connected them with allies to the south in Georgia and with those as far north as Detroit. Even worse, other trails leading northward enabled the Cherokees to strike at newly settled areas along the Cumberland River. The Indians, strengthened in numbers, had found a strategic location to launch attacks against any intruding whites.

North Carolina was faced with a moral and legal obligation to reward soldiers of the Continental line and militia who had served during the Revolution. As the state treasury was empty, the solution to this problem seemed to lie in the abundance of western lands across the mountains, which could be granted,, with little expense to the state, to North Carolina's Revolutionary veterans.

Living in the rolling piedmont section of that state was Colonel James Brown who had immigrated to the colonies from Ireland and purchased a small land holding at the head of the Yadkin River. He had been married to Jane Gillespie Brown for several years when, with a growing family, he relocated in Guilford County. After a short time, he was chosen a magistrate of that county, served as High Sheriff and as a ruling elder of the Presbyterian church.

The Revolution had come to Guilford Court House in March 1781. Brown, a soldier in the Continental line, was engaged in the battle under Colonels Lee and Washington which resulted in a tactical victory for the Americans. Thus, when North Carolina in 1785 offered payment of Revolutionary soldiers' claims in western lands, James Brown took advantage of the opportunity and located his military warrant on the Cumberland and Duck Rivers.

Shortly thereafter he took two of his older sons, explored the Cumberland valley, and entered large claims for additional lands. Choosing a tract for settlement about five miles below Nashville, he returned for his family in North Carolina, leaving the two sons to build a cabin and clear the land for cultivation.

During the winter of 1786-1787, he built a large boat on the Holston to transport his family down the Tennessee and up the Ohio and Cumberland Rivers to Nashville. The boat was well constructed of oak, two inches thick, and upon its stern Brown mounted a small cannon. He took on board a cargo of useful goods and embarked from the Long Island of the Holston on May 4, 1787, with a party of himself, his wife, two sons who were grown; Joseph, aged fifteen; a younger son, George; and three daughters, Jane, ten, Elizabeth, seven, and Polly, four. There were, in addition to Brown's family, five young men and several of the family's Negro slaves aboard.

About daybreak of May 9, as they passed a Cherokee village on the lower Tennessee, a canoe approached their boat. It was filled with Indians who hailed the settlers and appeared so friendly that they were permitted to come on board. Their headman Cutleotoy, professed friendship and was kindly treated. Shortly thereafter the Indians returned to their town and immediately sent runners to Nickajack and Running Water villages down river, to raise a group of warriors to intercept the boat.

A party of forty Indians led by the half-breed John Vann, who spoke English, met Brown's boat before it reached Nickajack. Vann also pleaded friendship citing the Treaty of Hopewell and was successful in boarding under the pretense of wanting to trade. Once Vann had accomplished his first stratagem, seven or eight other canoes appeared. Despite Brown's protests, more Cherokees came on board and began scuttling the boat. In the ensuing melee, the Indians gained control and Colonel Brown was killed by a Cherokee warrior.

Once the Indians had grounded the boat at Nickajack, they began to expropriate prisoners. A group of Creeks who had happened to be along, took Mrs. Brown, her youngest son, George, and her three daughters and hastened to their towns on the Coosa and Tallapoosa Rivers. Kiachatalee, of Nickajack, obtained Joseph Brown and turned him over to Tom Tunbridge, deserter from the British army, who had established a trading post among the Cherokees and had married Kiachatalee's mother. As the Indian trader hurried Joseph off to his home, the boy heard rifle shots coming from the direction of the river. He soon learned that his two older brothers and the five other men had been ambushed and killed by the Cherokees.

In the meantime, the Indians of Nickajack had come to believe that they had been cheated of some of their captives by the Creeks. Warriors were dispatched to catch up with the Creek party. When they were intercepted, two of the Brown daughters were returned to Nickajack.

After Joseph Brown arrived at Tunbridge's house, an old Indian woman came in and angrily scolded the trader for having brought the boy away from Nickajack, and thereby preventing his being killed along with others. She warned that Brown would later pilot an army there to kill them all. Shortly after she had gone, Cutleotoy with a group of braves approached Tunbridge and asked that the boy be released to them so that they might kill him. The Englishmen resisted the Indians' demand, saying that Joseph Brown was Kiachatalee's prisoner and that his step-son would be sure to revenge the boy's death. Finally, after Cutleotoy threatened Tunbridge with a drawn knife, the boy was turned over to them.

Brown was taken to a place a short distance away where it appeared that he was to be killed. Being a religious young man and as death was certain, he asked for some time to pray. Joseph knelt and prayed the prayer of St. Stephen, trying to give his soul to God. He remembered the experience of St. Stephen: how the saint when he was stoned, saw the heavens open, revealing Christ at the right hand of God. At this point, Brown's eyes opened involuntarily and he saw smiles upon the Indians' faces. Later Joseph learned that Cutleotoy had decided against killing him because the Indian highly valued the Negro slave he had obtained from the division of the Brown property, and feared that Kiachatalee might kill the slave in revenge for Joseph Brown's death.

The boy's life had been spared and soon he was taken into an Indian family and began to adopt their ways of life. Joseph wore the breech cloth and the short shirt, and his head was shaved, leaving a scalp lock. He even developed a relationship of respect and affection with his captors, Kiachatalee and the Tunbridges. He lived with the Cherokees for almost a year during which time he became acquainted with the territory around Nickajack and the other Five Lower Towns.

Warfare between the Indians and settlers continued on the frontier. An expedition under Colonel Joseph Martin came near Nickajack but was repulsed by the Indians. During the winter of 1788-1789, General Sevier followed a large body of Cherokees to a town on the Coosa River where he took about forty-five prisoners and returned with them to the white settlements. Sevier proposed a prisoner exchange with the Indians and it was in this way that Joseph and his two sisters were released from captivity in April, 1789.

Brown and his sisters made their way back across the mountain to an uncle's home in the Pendleton District of South Carolina. There they waited for some news of the condition of Mrs. Brown, their sister Elizabeth and brother George. About six months after Sevier's exchange, Mrs. Brown and Elizabeth were taken to Rock Landing, Georgia, and restored to their family through the efforts of the Creek chief, Colonel Alexander McGillivray. George Brown was to remain with the Creeks until October, 1793..

The reunited family remained in South Carolina for almost a year. In the fall of 1790, gathering together their belongings, they again headed for the Cumberland settlements. This time they chose the overland route to their property south of Nashville. Upon arrival, they began farming in spite of constant threats of Indian massacre. Joseph Brown, now considered a grown man, was often employed as a post rider between the Cumberland settlements and Knoxville. In this capacity he was often exposed to Indian attack and several times narrowly escaped death or capture. He began to regard himself as an Indian fighter and participated in an expedition against the Cherokee.

In 1794 Brown volunteered to serve under Major James Ore in a campaign that was to destroy the Cherokee base at Nickajack. He piloted the volunteers across the mountains and while the rest of the men circled the village, Brown, being familiar with area, led twenty men to another position to insure that no Indian would escape after the battle began. The frontiersmen completely surprised the Indians and killed or captured about one hundred Cherokees. Brown later reported that he had been in the midst of the fighting, had nearly scalped one Indian and had taken a squaw prisoner. He believed that he had fulfilled the earlier prophecy of the old Cherokee woman: he had piloted an army there to destroy them. The victory over the Cherokees in 1794 ended the Indian menace from the Five Lower Towns.

Joseph Brown returned to his new wife and his home on the Cumberland where his first son was born in 1795. The same year he was engaged as a spy and guard at Fort Blount. Brown had a personal interest in seeing that the Indian threat was diminished on the Tennessee frontier; he still possessed title to a large acreage along the Duck River which had been granted his father.

In 1805 he decided that conditions were safe enough to move his family across the Duck into what is today Maury County where he came to play an active role in the county's history. Brown and his brother-in-law, Benjamin Thomas, became the first white inhabitants of that area. Brown constructed a house in which the first county court was held in 1807, and was one of the commissioners to establish the town of Columbia. In this town he began to acquire property and by May, 1811, owned more than fifteen hundred acres. That Brown had become a man of some standing in Maury County is indicated by the inscription of "Esquire" beside his name in county records.

During the Creek War of 1813-1814, he was elected a colonel and served under General Andrew Jackson for four months, participating in the battles of Tallahatchee and Talledega. In the latter engagement he and his command were thrown into battle against five hundred Indians. Seventy Indians were killed and the Tennessee troops emerged victorious. From his engagements at these battles, a curious story has found its way into some histories of this man. It was written that at the battle of Talledega, Brown learned from an Indian that Cutleotoy was still alive and had possession of several Negroes who were descendants of the slave taken from the Brown family in 1788. Investigation indicates that as early as October, 1811, Brown was aware that the slaves were within three days' traveling distance of his home in Maury County.

Colonel Brown forcibly recovered some of these slaves from Cutleotoy at Fort Hampton in January, 1814, and in so doing he violated a treaty made between the United States government and the Cherokees. The Treaty of Tellico of 1798 had bound the United States to protect the Cherokees against any claims arising from Indian thefts or plunderings which occurred before the date of the treaty Legally, Brown was barred from recovering any of the Negroes and he could have been subjected to damages resulting from this act.

After the Creek Wars Brown returned to Maury County, never again to participate in Indian expeditions. Interviewed in 1852, he stated that he had since 1815 led a peaceful life. Perhaps this was a correct description from someone who had undergone Indian captivity and had been involved in numerous campaigns. Records indicate that the rest of his life may have been peaceful but that the tranquillity was definitely interrupted from time to time. Between 1817 and 1821 he was sued several times in cases before the Maury County Circuit Court. Shortly after he appeared as a defendant in court, he volunteered his services to go to Washington to collect claims for property lost in the Seminole War.

Some of the peacefulness to which he referred may have been derived from his acceptance of ministerial duties for the Cumberland Presbyterian Church in Columbia. Yet it would be difficult to describe the religion he practiced as entirely tranquil. Someone who viewed Brown's religious experiences in the 1820's described them for a later audience:

About 1822, when a small boy, I attended a camp-meeting at McClain's. Only a few tents were then built; some camped in covered wagons...Among the tents built, was the one so long occupied by Co. Brown, and there I first saw him under religious excitement, and first heard that involuntary "Oh!' accompanied by the spasmodic jerk, forward and downward, and as he arose erect, "My Redeemer!" was uttered in a low voice. Those who once heard him, can recollect the effects and intonations of his voice....."

As Brown grew older, his religious zeal increased, an enthusiasm probably accentuated by the growing prevalence of fundamentalism in rural Tennessee. In any case, his letters and interviews reveal a man who came more and more under religious influences. That this tendency was also reflected by his biographers will be shown later.

There developed during the 1850's a growing interest in Tennessee history, perhaps attributable to the reorganization of the Tennessee Historical Society in Nashville in 1849, which was incorporated the following year by the state legislature. Although this organization received little popular support and its meetings were few, a handful of men, mostly Nashville residents, attempted to stimulate interest in the state's history and desired to preserve papers and artifacts which might be revealing of the state's past.

One of the first members of the society was William Wales, of Nashville, who in 1852 began publishing the South-Western Monthly, a literary magazine. Wales had been inspired by the organizations' founding and in an extended editorial he urged his reader's to take an interest in Tennessee history and chided them for their wavering support of the historical society's work. Tennessee had a "glorious train of events for contemplation;;" in its history were stories of fabulous romance. To preserve these "mementos of the past, " the public should cooperate with the society. Other states had given generous support to their organizations and libraries; Wales regretted that Tennessee had done very little to record her greatness.

The same editorial entreated its readers to learn from the "patriarchal few who might acquaint" them with a time when the state was an unbroken wilderness. Apparently, Wales had followed his own advice and traveled to Maury County to write a sketch of the aging Joseph Brown. It is probable that he was accompanied on this interview by Feliz K. Zollicoffer who in 1850 had taken charge of the Nashville Banner. Zollicoffer would have been well acquainted with Brown, for he was a Maury County native and had been publisher and editor of the Columbia Observer before moving to Nashville. In his ANNALS OF TENNESSEE, published in 1853, James G. M. Ramsey printed Brown's narrative which was supplied by Zollicoffer. A comparison of Ramsey's account and that published in the South-Western Monthly reveal so many similarities that it is evident Zollicoffer and Wales must have combined efforts.

The narrative in Wales' quarterly portrayed the story of the brave pioneer who unflinchingly endured dangers to migrate to a new territory. It mattered not at all that the Indian had an older right to the land; rather, it was the duty of the pioneer to open this land for settlement. The savage was a definite obstacle that must be overcome. If this obstacle threatened the white settler, he must be punished or killed.

Brave and conscious of his duty, Joseph Brown personified the pioneer. He had come to Tennessee as a youth, and experienced numerous hardships in Indian captivity. After his release from the Indians, he returned to Tennessee to insure the safety of its frontier society against the defiant savage. He was a man to whom the United States owed gratitude for its first step in civilization. Brown, the gallant pioneer, became a hero in Tennessee history. Wales accomplished what he had set out to do; he had recorded the exploits of Joseph Brown so that they would not "moulder in oblivion.." Now well over one hundred years old, the narrative in the South-Western Monthly remains one of the most detailed accounts of the Indian exploits of Joseph Brown.

The same year that Wales began publication of his literary magazine, Mrs. Elizabeth Ellet wrote PIONEER WOMEN OF THE WEST. Directed to a national audience and published in New York, her book contained numerous sketches of frontier women, one of these being Mrs. James Brown.

Mrs. Ellet, born in the western part of New York in 1818, was the daughter of a pioneer of the section, William Nixion Lummis. At the age of fifteen she married Dr. William H. Ellet, a professor of chemistry at Columbia College, New York City. The same year as their marriage, Dr. Ellet accepted a position at South Carolina College where they remained until 1849, when they returned to New York. Mrs. Ellet developed an interest in history and published hundreds of essays, shot stories, and sketches during her life time. Her PIONEER WOMEN is not well documented but she acknowledged assistance from Milton A. Haynes of Nashville and her use of valuable manuscripts belonging to a historical society of Tennessee.

Mrs. James Brown's story differed in at least one respect from the narrative published by Wales' Ellet and included the story of Brown's recovery of the Negro slaves. After the Battles of Talledega, the Indian fighter learned that Cutleotoy was still living and had with him the descendants of the slaves taken from the Brown family in 1788. Joseph Brown proceeded to the Indian village and obtained his rightful property. Describing the episode, Ellet portrayed Cutleotoy as a criminal deserving death and Brown as the ideal Christian who was able to repress his feelings of revenge for his father's death. The Cherokee was presented as a criminal race "whose blood thirsty natures panted for the blood of the white man," a lawless people who deserved death in the Nickajack campaign.

Ellet believed that by telling the story of Mrs. Brown, the condition, progress, and character of a people would be better illustrated. The tale had all the characteristics of a romance but it was a "plain sad story of trials and sufferings" incident to the period and border life. The sadness and suffering of those hardy and wise pioneers was inspiring because, despite adversities, they had been able to construct a state in the midst of Indian warfare. The recurrent theme in Ellet's history was the perseverance of the pioneer. The world of the frontier woman was one of "vexation and sorrow," but she endured the hardships of frontier life and experienced the loss of husband and sons killed by Indians so that she and the remainder of her family might finally claim their rightful property.

The year following the publications of Wales and Ellet, Dr. J. G. M. Ramsey produced the "Remarkable Adventure" of the Brown family in his ANNALS OF TENNESSEE Predisposed through heredity and the environment of his youth to historical interest, Ramsey was born into a prominent family of East Tennessee and his early years were spent in the atmosphere of a family acquainted with state politics and the leadership of his state. Therefore Ramsey was exposed daily to those people and events that had shaped the history of Tennessee.

Unfortunately he believed that Colonel Joseph Brown was dead in 1853 and that his story had never before been published. Therefore, he sought a condensed version of Brown's story furnished him by General Zollicoffer. The similarity between Ramsey's narrative and the one published the previous year in the South-Western Monthly has previously been noted. Like Wales, Ramsey was determined to preserve Tennessee's historical heritage. Of particular interest were the deeds of the eighteenth century Tennessee pioneers. Therefore, Brown's narrative was an important aspect in Tennessee history, another incident of a worthy pioneer who braved frontier strife to settle the state.

To Ramsey, James Brown was a good example of the Tennessee pioneer. He came to Tennessee as a Revolutionary veteran to settle lands granted him for military service. His son, Joseph bravely endured his captivity and later, out of duty and patriotism, piloted an expedition to extinguish the Indian stronghold. Ramsey's estimation of Brown's bravery in the Nickajack campaign is illustrated in this passage:

Joseph Brown...conducted troops along the route, unknown to any of them, and though disabled, from a wound through his shoulder, which was still discharging pieces of exfoliated bone, he with one hand, swam across the river, and was among the first to reach its southern bank.

On the other hand, the Cherokees were a group of "land pirates," murderers and "savage bandits," who inflicted constant cruelty and "barbarisms" throughout Tennessee. Indian depredations caused only righteous anger among the frontiersmen.

Increasing sectionalism in the antebellum United States had caused division of several denominations into regionally governed church bodies. One of the Southern religious institutions which had separated itself from a larger national organization was the Methodist Episcopal Church, South. By the mid-1850's this organization operated its own publishing concern in Nashville.

An early editor of the Southern Methodist Publishing House was the Rev. Thomas O. Summers. He had come to Nashville and wasted little time before becoming a prolific publisher, editor, and author. His only biographer felt that it was a mystery "how he (Summers) found time to write so much and so well. ...Summers was a devoted and pious Methodist, who urged all Christian parents to properly supervise their children's reading. He edited a book entitled Letters to Parents of Sunday School Children which supported his views of screening from children books which "bear upon them the broad stamp of vice, which mark them as the devil's own."

Holding this view towards children's literature, Summers must have been delighted when he procured from a "young lady of Tennessee" a tract which depicted for children Joseph Brown's experiences with the Indians. Summers published this in a volume entitled Joseph Brown or The Young Tennessean Whose Life Was Saved by the Power of Prayer, a book obviously designed for children's religious instruction.

In this version Brown became the personification of the Christian pioneer and pious youth. It would seem that he had spent the greater part of this time with the Indians in prayer for his mother, brothers and sisters, and even his captors. Brown would not attempt escape from the Indians because he demonstrated "self sacrificing love" and could not endanger the lives of his younger sisters. When Brown met Cutleotoy at the Nickajack campaign, and told the Indian that he deserved to die, Summers added a new twist to the story. Cutleotoy agreed to his own death, saying, "It is true--I do deserve to be put to death! Do as you please with me!" But Brown could not kill Cutleotoy because of the Christian principle which forbids the children of God to revenge themselves on their enemies. The pious pioneer became the Christian hero!

Contrasted to Brown, the Cherokee was evil, capable of violent rage and murder of unsuspecting whites. Cutleotoy, for example, would have gladly killed Brown. Yet, however evil the nature of the Cherokee, he was after punishment, capable of contrition. The evil nature of the red man could be subdued by Christianizing influence.

If one were to draw a general picture of the pioneer and Indian from the episode of Joseph Brown as described by Ellet, Wales, Ramsey, and Summers, it would be substantially one of the brave and righteous versus the diabolic. The pioneer was a worthy being, constantly roused and conscious of higher goals. He had labored and fought to establish in the Southwest a fine civilization, but he had been opposed by Indians who were "evil," "treacherous," and "lawless and bloodthirsty" murderers. These views would find new interpretation in the historical writing of the twentieth century. (Part 1).

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Re: Joseph Brown, Tenn. Pioneer (Corrected website address)

princessjasmine_tx — 2009-05-04 16:20:17Z

sorry, the web address is:
http://brownfamilytree.info

Re: Joseph Brown, Tenn. Pioneer

princessjasmine_tx — 2009-05-04 16:19:12Z

Joseph Brown is in my direct lineage as well. If you would like copies of my Family Tree Maker file, you are welcome to it. I also have a TON of family history, photos of Joseph Brown and others in the family.

I started a website, but its not complete yet, the address is: http://www.brownfamilytree.info

its a (very slow) work in progress, but I've posted some more stuff there as well.

My email address is princessjasmine at austin.rr.com
(take out the spaces and change "at" to @)

Re: Info on Rose Mary, Lawrence B, & Angela Quinan

paula8171 — 2009-02-16 04:52:40Z

Thank you for the information. This has helped me out alot. I am a little confused about the discrepancy with the connection between Georgia and Florida. I just dont know enough of my family history to know what the situation was at the time. Hopefully, with a little more research, I can clear up what Im not understanding.

Re: Info on Rose Mary, Lawrence B, & Angela Quinan

paula8171 — 2009-02-17 12:27:19Z

Thank you for the death index info. No, I dont have any of the death certificates. I am new to all of this and not really sure what all I need. Also, there are so many William J Quinans that Im not sure which ones are which at this point. I really appreciate your help though.

Re: Info on Rose Mary, Lawrence B, & Angela Quinan

paula8171 — 2009-02-13 05:29:25Z

Thank you for the info! We didnt know about the sister, Louise, and we now know the parents names all thanks to your help.

Info on Rose Mary, Lawrence B, & Angela Quinan

paula8171 — 2009-02-12 16:58:13Z

I am looking for my mothers biological family. She was born in 1946 to Lawrence and Pauline Quinan. We would appreciate any info anybody could give us on Rose Mary, Lawrence B, or Angela Quinan. Rose Mary and Angela were Lawrence's sisters. He was the middle child. All of them were born between 1915 and 1923. We dont know their parents names.

Re: James Claude Morris and Lucy M Ghorley

CarlaReneeMorris — 2009-04-20 03:45:03Z

I have Albert Lee Morris was born on 1 Dec 1915 in ,Jeff Davis,GA. He died on 7 Sep 1975. He was buried in Spring Grove BC,Cem,Wayne,GA. in my family tree. Some of the other names sound familiar. I will keep checking. Let me know if this helps any.

Re: Info on Rose Mary, Lawrence B, & Angela Quinan

sefealko — 2009-02-15 02:10:46Z

Paula,

If you go back to the 1920 census, there is one more child in family, an older brother. Here is what the Quinan household looked like in that enumeration:

Savannah, Chatham Co., GA, p. 220

Moore, Rosalie, 55, a widow, born in RI, both parents born in NY, keeper of a rooming house
Quinan, William J., 40, nephew, born in GA, both parents born in GA, a bookkeeper
Louise G., 33, niece, born in GA, both parents born in GA, no occupation
William, grand niece, 9, born in FL
Louise, grand niece, 7, born in GA
Rosemary, grand niece, 4 4/12, born in GA
Lawrence, grand niece, 2 1/12, born in GA
Also a 71 year male lodger from SC—hard to make out the name

Rosalie Moore was the head of house, and yes, it actually says “grand niece” for all the kids.

In 1910, there was a William Quinan in Florida, none in Georgia:

Jacksonville, 3rd Ward, Duval Co., FL, p. 18

Quinan, William, 32, married 1st time, for 4 years, born in GA, parents born in GA, manager of a lumber company
Genevieve, 24, married 1st time, for 4 years, born in GA, parents born in GA, no occupation
The couple had no children at the time. The very next person in their boarding house was
Moore, Rosamond, 48, widow, never any children, a housekeeper, born in GA, parents born in GA

Even with the inconsistencies, these must be the same people as in the 1920 census, considering how rare the name “Quinan” is. Louise G. must have been Louise Genevieve.

Then if you back to 1900, William is living with his father, Elesha/Elisha W. Quinan, age 50, back in Savannah (p. 41 of Wesley Ward). Elesha was a widower then, but it states that he had 4 of 6 children living. A daughter Catherine, 24, is with him along with William, 22. Elesha was a boarding housekeepr while William was a bookkeeper. What's interesting is that Elesha was born in NY, his father was born in NY, and his mother was born in Ireland.

I hope this helps your research.

Sue Ellen Fealko

Re: James Claude Morris and Lucy M Ghorley

sefealko — 2009-04-28 20:53:11Z

Charlotte,

I managed to locate James Claud Morris in the 1910, 1920, and 1930 censuses. From what you wrote, I don't think you have all of them, and let me know if you'd like me to send them to you. They don't give a whole lot of new information, and actually they probably raise some questions about where and when people were born.

In 1910, James C. Morris, age 25, was with his first wife in the 10th Militia District, Murray Co., GA, on p. 215. He was supposedly born in GA as were his parents. His wife's name was Lucy, age 30, and she was born in Tennessee, her parents in GA. They had been married 3 years, and she had 2 of 2 children living: Lora, 2, and Earl, 4/12. The sheet is somewhat hard to read, but I think that's what it says.

In 1920, Claud Morris is in the 952nd Militia District, Kingston, Bartow Co., GA, on p. 44. Now he's 38, which really doesn't make sense, and his wife Lucy is 23. Both were born in GA. At first you might assume it's the same Lucy, only there's a mistake with her age. It's definitely not the same lady though, which becomes clear from the 1930 census. The children in the house were Fanny, 12; John, 11; Albert, 4 ?/12; and Clarence, 3 ?/12. One thing to note here is that the oldest son must have been John Earl Morris, not two separate sons John and Earl. It's very typical to see someone listed by their first name in one place and the second in another.

Then in 1930, James C. Morris is still in the same place, on p. 209 of the census. Now he's 42 and born in Tennessee! Lucy M. is 35 and born in GA. He was 19 when he first married and she was 18. Now if this Lucy was born about 1895 and married at age 18, there is no way that she could have been the mother of those two children in 1910. You can see the gap in the children's ages from the first wife to the second also. Anyway, the children at home in 1930 were Lora F., 22; Albert L., 14, Clarence E., 11; Ruby I., 8, Hazel K., 5 6/12; and Marth[a] M. 2 8/12. There does seem to be a mistake though that the parents of all the children were both born in Tennessee. The birth places in these three censuses definitely don't add up.

I couldn't find any clear sighting of either James Claud Morris or Lucy M. Ghorley/Gorley in the 1900 census, unfortunately. There was a Jesse Ghorley, age 27, living in Rome, Floyd Co., GA, in 1920. He very well could have been the son of a Jack Ghorley, who had a son Jessie, age 8, in 1900. But that Jack Ghorley didn't have any daughters named Lucy or anything close.

Hope this helps somewhat.
Sue Ellen Fealko

Re: Escanaba - places to stay???

sefealko — 2009-04-27 21:18:02Z

You've posted your question about staying in Escanaba, Michigan, in the Delta Genealogical Society forum, where researchers ask and answer questions about ancestors from the state of Georgia. It's not likely that people tuning here are going to be able to answer your question! Try finding a better website. Or simply google words like Escanaba, motels, hotels, etc., and check out the hits. It's not too hard to find websites that include reviews of places where people have stayed.

Re: Cowan ancesters

christycowan21 — 2008-12-18 03:36:39Z

hello I am a cowan from rome and my greatgrandfather is james oscar cowan, grandfather tillmon cowan. any info. we can exchange, please e-mail me cowan7970@comcast.net

Re: Whitehead & Joyners of Dooly County GA

RemTom — 2009-01-17 16:06:56Z

Do you know if the Whitehead came from Nash Co. N.C.? My husband is a descendent of John Joseph Whitehead, migrated to Choctaw Co. Ala.1840's. RemTom

Robert M . Whitehead 1883

lobo1946 — 2009-01-28 06:06:16Z

married to Eliza Mosely in Ware Co Ga his father was also named Robert and married to Liza or Lizean unknown census I think 1910 says father an mother living with son an family also says the father from Ala. cant find anything about him except another census says he is from Ga. and his father from Ireland. any one know of this family I can give more details for decendants but nothing on ancestry, been one of my stone walls long time.

Re: Columbus Jones, Lemuel Jones, Richard Jones

LDKatch — 2009-01-18 07:28:13Z

I have two Jones in my line with the Columbus name. John Columbus Jones b. May 3 1825 in Georgia. He named a son Thomas Columbus. The father of John Columbus was John M. Jones b.1786 VA. He married Martha Ivey in 1808, Wilkerson GA. He was in Upson Co. in 1850 census. I do not have much information, and also hope to connect with the correct line.