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Seek information on Alice

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Re: Seek information on Alice

Posted: 22 Jan 2010 2:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
The 1910 Census as described: Owning in Twin Falls.
Jacob F. Stoltz, age 38, born in Pennsylvania to both parents in PA
Alice, 37, born in Illinois to father born New York, mother Ohio
Eleanor, 3/12, born in Idaho
--The writing is clearly Eleanor. The below family tree identifies they had two children. The census was enumerated 21st of June, so this child was born late Feb/March 1910.

---Family Tree Found------
That lead to a family tree posted by a JRBeal22. This isn't you? If so, you've obtained your information since your posting. If not:

It showed Jacob was born 13 April 1872 in Hepburn Twp, Lycoming Co, PA, died in Chicago, Cook Co, IL. (This could be an assumption based on Alice being in Chicago in the 1920 Census).

Alice Beal, shown as born about 1858 in Illinois to a Philip P. Beal 1832, and Leah Hoover 1835; both born in PA. However, this could be the wrong Alice, or wrong DOB. OR, it could be the correct Alice Beal, but the wrong person to whom she married.
--There was an Alice Beal matching that information, living with that family in the 1870 Census.
---BUT the 1910 Census for the Correct Alice shows her parents were born in New York and Ohio. The 1920 Census for the correct Alice shows the same thing. So this Alice Beal is NOT the correct person married to Jacob Stoltz.

I am leaving this information posted in the event others may attempt to connect this person to Stoltz.

The 1900 Census for Porter, Richardson Co, Nebraska
Jacob Stolz, born April 1872 in PA, is living with his parents William July 1846; and Mary May 1843.

The 1920 Census shows Alice B. Stoltz, 47, born IL, to father born in NY, mother in OH, Divorced, living with Elaine 9, and Leslie 7(dau). Leslie was born in Illinois.
--Leslie would have been born about 1912/1913. Both parents may have moved to Illinois by/before the birth. The divorce could have happened at any time to the enumeration date in 1920.

The 1900 Census for Illinois.
There were 12 Alice's living in Illinois in the 1900 census where the parents were born in Ohio and New York. Of these 12, six were wives (although still possible as someone in their first marriage, second to Stoltz). Of the others, one's parents birth was reversed. Four other daughters had the wrong middle initial. Of all 12, something was present to eliminate, having children, wrong initial, etc. The one remaining was "Alice B. McHenry"

The 1900 Census for Chicago, Cook County, renting 2606 N. Paulina
Emma A. McHenry, born Aug 1843 in Ohio to father born in Maryland, mother in Pennsylvania, shown as married, mother of 4/2 living.
Alice B, born Dec 1872 in Illinois to father born in NY, mother in Ohio
Gratia D. born March 1880 in IL.
---While this method has been successful on many other searches, I don't have enough information to confirm. Do you have the birth date of "Your" Alice? Was she Alice B?
---This also takes into consideration that the correct Alice was living in Illinois in 1900. But, since the correct one moved back to Illinois by 1912/1913, I would have to "speculate" she had lived there before Idaho. So from the time of marriage, 1907/1908, to 1912/1913, she would have only been gone five to six years.

Here is information on obtaining Idaho marriage and birth records:
As written birth records are confidential for 100 years. Elaine was born about 100 years ago in 1910. Her record would be obtainable under the law. It might have the mothers maiden name. BUT, this site indicates the State records only go back to 1911 (a year/two before Leslie was born). The County might have it.

Marriage/divorce records are only confidential for 50 years, but again this site only has them from 1911. So you would have to contact the CORRECT County where they married.
For their marriage. You can assume they were in Twin Falls in 1910 as that is where they were found in the Census. He was owning his property, so that put some connection to the area. It appears Elaine/Eleanor was "possibly" born in Twin Falls around March. The census identifies Jacob and Alice were married two years...from the time of the census. So, they could have been married in July 1907 to June 1908. Jacob was in Nebraska in the 1900 Census. We don't know where Alice was living. They "could" have met and married in Nebraska, or both were living in Idaho when they met and married. I suspect, based on the scenario above, but speculating, Jacob was in Chicago for some purpose in 1900 to 1907, and this is where they met. But, once you've read that, throw it out.

Possible marriage for Gratia McHenry, born about 1881, married Joseph B. Cornell, about 1874 in Chicago, on 14 Dec 1910.

I'll come back to this later, do some additional on the McHenry's. If you have Alice's full birth, that will help.

Ron Bestrom
Tacoma, WA
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