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Jonathan J Irons

AnthonyScafide  (View posts) Posted: 19 Jan 2003 11:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
Greetings, I am looking for the parents of Jonathan J Irons. born in Indiana about 1824. His father was born in Tenn. and mother in Kentucky. By 1850, Jonathan married Minerva Lawhead and was living in Guilford township Hendricks Co. IN. Jonathan died in 1915 in Topeka Kansas. Any information or leads would be helpful.

Re: Jonathan J Irons

@@rmhunziker@hotmail.com  (View posts) Posted: 20 Jan 2003 8:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Irons, Frakes, Franks, Burgess
I research the Irons lines and have been looking for more information on the Jonathan Irons who married Minerva B. Lawhead in Hendricks County on 22 Jun 1847, Book 3, Page 189. Because I have not been able to tie him to my wife's line, he is not included in the Rootsweb database. However, your indication that his father was born in TN, his mother was born in Kentucky, and he died in 1915 in Topeka, KS is very interesting.

Please note the data on Thomas Irons and Sarah Frakes Irons at:

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&...

They were born in TN and KY respectively. Their daughter, Elizabeth Minerva (Irons) Burgess, was born about 1830 in Indiana - probably Hendricks County - and died in Topeka, KS.

The only problem that I have with Jonathan being a brother to Elizabeth is that I am almost 99.99% sure that she had a brother named John Irons. I have a hard time believing that brothers would be named John and Jonathan.

What sources do you have regarding his parents birthplaces and his death? All of my source can be found in the Rootsweb database.

Re: Jonathan J Irons

AnthonyScafide  (View posts) Posted: 20 Jan 2003 10:51PM GMT
Classification: Query
Greetings, the information that I have in regards to Jonathan J Irons Parents' birth places is derives from both the 1880 and 1900 federal census from Topeka Kansas. In the 1870 census Jonathan was still in Guilford County Indiana. In both the 1880 and 1900 census, Jonathan states he was born in Indiana, his father in Tenn, his mother in Kentucky. Jonathan J Irons death is reported in two Topeka Newspaper obituaries. These obits state that Jonathan Irons was husband to Minerva B Irons and states surviving children that match those born in Plainfield Indiana. Jonathan J Irons and Minerva are buried at the Rochester cemetery in Topeka. I would love to compare information
Tony

Re: Jonathan J Irons

@@rmhunziker@hotmail.com  (View posts) Posted: 22 Jan 2003 10:41PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Irons
Tony, I am trying to gather information and came across the following cases which are of interest. I have also posted them on the Irons Surname board.

Shirts v. Irons, 37 Ind. 98, 1871 WL 5040 (1871)
"* * * It is alleged in the said reply, that the appellant and appellee were partners in a sutler's store, at Nashville, Tennessee, and were connected with the seventieth regiment of Indiana volunteers; that the appellee sold his interest in such business to the appellant and one Pearson, and that they agreed in writing, a copy of which was filed, to pay all the debts of the said firm, and that the payments alleged in said several paragraphs of the answer were payments made upon such partnership debts.
The said contract was as follows:
'NASHVILLE, TENN., January 2d, 1863.
This is to certify that we, William Pearson and Augustus F. Shirts, have, this day, bought of Jonathan Irons, his interest in the sutlery of the seventieth regiment Indiana volunteers; that we agree to pay all debts, yet unpaid, that have been contracted since William Irons sold out to Jonathan Irons.
WILLIAM Pearson,
AUGUSTUS F. SHIRTS.'
* * *
The contract alleges that Irons had sold his interest in the sutlery of the seventieth regiment of Indiana volunteers, and that the purchasers thereof agreed to pay all the debts, yet unpaid, that have been contracted since William Irons sold out to Jonathan Irons.
* * *
The instrument made a part of the reply is not very full and satisfactory. It recites that Irons had that day sold his interest in the sutlery of the seventieth regiment of Indiana volunteers to Shirts and Pearson, and that they agreed to pay all debts yet unpaid that had been contracted since William Irons sold out to Jonathan Irons. The instrument does not show what the interest of Irons was, nor in what it consisted. It may have been the stock in trade; it may have been the horses and wagons employed in the business; it may have been the accounts due him for goods sold, or it may have been all of these things. It would not have varied or contradicted the written instrument to have admitted parol evidence to show what was the real consideration of the promise to pay the debts of the said Jonathan Irons, contracted subsequent to his purchase from William Irons.
* * *
The object of the evidence offered and excluded was, to prove that the promise of the appellant to pay all the debts that had been contracted by Jonathan Irons subsequent to his purchase from William Irons, and which remained unpaid, was the sale by Jonathan Irons to the appellant and Pearson of the accounts due to Irons for goods sold, and that said accounts were 'insolvent and worthless.'
* * *
It is next assigned for error, that the court erred in excluding from the jury certain questions and answers in the deposition of William W. Irons. It appears of record that the appellant took the deposition of the said Irons, who resided in Hendricks county, in this State; that the appellee produced in court the said Irons, who was examined in chief, cross examined, and re-examined; that the appellee had discharged the said witness, who had returned home and was not present at court, when the appellant offered to read certain portions of his deposition as rebutting evidence.
* * *
In a case like the present, we are inclined to adopt the construction contended for by the appellant. The trial was had in Hamilton county. The witness resided in Hendricks county."

Irons v. Woodfill, 32 Ind. 40, 1869 WL 3374 (Ind. Nov Term 1869)
This was an action, commenced February 20th, 1868, by the appellees, as assignees, against the appellants, on a promissory note, executed by the latter to one Samuel Little, on the 4th day of January, 1865, for seven hundred dollars, due one day after date. The note is indorsed as follows:
'Home, December 9th, 1865, interest paid on the within note up to Nov. 9th, 1867, and the same not to be collected within that time, unless agreed upon by both parties. I assign the within note, without recourse. SAMUEL LITTLE.'
The appellants filed an answer, alleging, that at the time of the assignment of the note to the plaintiffs, it was agreed and made an express condition of said assignment, "that said plaintiffs should forbear to collect said note and the amount thereof for two years from the date of said assignment;" that the same was assigned by said Little in part payment for land purchased by him of said Susannah Woodfill, and pursuant to an agreement made between the plaintiffs, the defendant, and said Little, the plaintiffs accepted said note as the last payment on said land, 'with the express condition on the part of said parties that said note should not become due or payable until the 9th day of November, 1869, at which time the defendants agreed to pay said plaintiffs ten per cent. per annum as interest on said note from said 9th day of November, 1867; that the defendants paid to said Little at that date the interest then due, at the rate of ten per cent. per annum, and the same was assigned to the plaintiffs at the estimated value of eight hundred and forty dollars, two years from date, and so accepted upon the express condition aforesaid; wherefore,' &c.
* * *"
This Irons is likely related to the Thomas Irons family at least.

Chicago, I. & L. Ry. Co. v. Irons, 38 Ind.App. 196, 78 N.E. 207 (Ind.App. 1 Div. 1906). Appeal from Circuit Court, Clinton County. "Suit by appellee [Thomas Irons] for the cost of repairing or rebuilding a fence between appellee's property and appellant's right of way." This is a different county and I do not know whether this Irons is related to the Hendricks county Irons

Re: Jonathan J Irons

@@rmhunziker@hotmail.com  (View posts) Posted: 22 Jan 2003 10:48PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Irons
Tony, I am trying to gather information and came across the following cases which are of interest. I have also posted them on the Irons Surname board.

Shirts v. Irons, 37 Ind. 98, 1871 WL 5040 (1871)
"* * * It is alleged in the said reply, that the appellant and appellee were partners in a sutler's store, at Nashville, Tennessee, and were connected with the seventieth regiment of Indiana volunteers; that the appellee sold his interest in such business to the appellant and one Pearson, and that they agreed in writing, a copy of which was filed, to pay all the debts of the said firm, and that the payments alleged in said several paragraphs of the answer were payments made upon such partnership debts.
The said contract was as follows:
'NASHVILLE, TENN., January 2d, 1863.
This is to certify that we, William Pearson and Augustus F. Shirts, have, this day, bought of Jonathan Irons, his interest in the sutlery of the seventieth regiment Indiana volunteers; that we agree to pay all debts, yet unpaid, that have been contracted since William Irons sold out to Jonathan Irons.
WILLIAM Pearson,
AUGUSTUS F. SHIRTS.'
* * *
The contract alleges that Irons had sold his interest in the sutlery of the seventieth regiment of Indiana volunteers, and that the purchasers thereof agreed to pay all the debts, yet unpaid, that have been contracted since William Irons sold out to Jonathan Irons.
* * *
The instrument made a part of the reply is not very full and satisfactory. It recites that Irons had that day sold his interest in the sutlery of the seventieth regiment of Indiana volunteers to Shirts and Pearson, and that they agreed to pay all debts yet unpaid that had been contracted since William Irons sold out to Jonathan Irons. The instrument does not show what the interest of Irons was, nor in what it consisted. It may have been the stock in trade; it may have been the horses and wagons employed in the business; it may have been the accounts due him for goods sold, or it may have been all of these things. It would not have varied or contradicted the written instrument to have admitted parol evidence to show what was the real consideration of the promise to pay the debts of the said Jonathan Irons, contracted subsequent to his purchase from William Irons.
* * *
The object of the evidence offered and excluded was, to prove that the promise of the appellant to pay all the debts that had been contracted by Jonathan Irons subsequent to his purchase from William Irons, and which remained unpaid, was the sale by Jonathan Irons to the appellant and Pearson of the accounts due to Irons for goods sold, and that said accounts were 'insolvent and worthless.'
* * *
It is next assigned for error, that the court erred in excluding from the jury certain questions and answers in the deposition of William W. Irons. It appears of record that the appellant took the deposition of the said Irons, who resided in Hendricks county, in this State; that the appellee produced in court the said Irons, who was examined in chief, cross examined, and re-examined; that the appellee had discharged the said witness, who had returned home and was not present at court, when the appellant offered to read certain portions of his deposition as rebutting evidence.
* * *
In a case like the present, we are inclined to adopt the construction contended for by the appellant. The trial was had in Hamilton county. The witness resided in Hendricks county."

Irons v. Woodfill, 32 Ind. 40, 1869 WL 3374 (Ind. Nov Term 1869)
This was an action, commenced February 20th, 1868, by the appellees, as assignees, against the appellants, on a promissory note, executed by the latter to one Samuel Little, on the 4th day of January, 1865, for seven hundred dollars, due one day after date. The note is indorsed as follows:
'Home, December 9th, 1865, interest paid on the within note up to Nov. 9th, 1867, and the same not to be collected within that time, unless agreed upon by both parties. I assign the within note, without recourse. SAMUEL LITTLE.'
The appellants filed an answer, alleging, that at the time of the assignment of the note to the plaintiffs, it was agreed and made an express condition of said assignment, "that said plaintiffs should forbear to collect said note and the amount thereof for two years from the date of said assignment;" that the same was assigned by said Little in part payment for land purchased by him of said Susannah Woodfill, and pursuant to an agreement made between the plaintiffs, the defendant, and said Little, the plaintiffs accepted said note as the last payment on said land, 'with the express condition on the part of said parties that said note should not become due or payable until the 9th day of November, 1869, at which time the defendants agreed to pay said plaintiffs ten per cent. per annum as interest on said note from said 9th day of November, 1867; that the defendants paid to said Little at that date the interest then due, at the rate of ten per cent. per annum, and the same was assigned to the plaintiffs at the estimated value of eight hundred and forty dollars, two years from date, and so accepted upon the express condition aforesaid; wherefore,' &c.
* * *"
This Irons is likely related to the Thomas Irons family at least.

Chicago, I. & L. Ry. Co. v. Irons, 38 Ind.App. 196, 78 N.E. 207 (Ind.App. 1 Div. 1906). Appeal from Circuit Court, Clinton County. "Suit by appellee [Thomas Irons] for the cost of repairing or rebuilding a fence between appellee's property and appellant's right of way." This is a different county and I do not know whether this Irons is related to the Hendricks county Irons

Re: Jonathan J Irons

AnthonyScafide  (View posts) Posted: 23 Jan 2003 4:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
Those court cases are interesting. As a law student it really brings the hobby of genealogy and my chosen profession together. Now that we know that William W Irons and Jonathan had close contact with each other, all that is left is to find how they were related. Were they father and son, brothers, or cousins? Thanks for the info
Tony

Re: Jonathan J Irons

AnthonyScafide  (View posts) Posted: 1 Feb 2003 10:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Great news, I recieved Thomas Irons Will today and there is a John and a Jonathan Irons. The will reads as follows:

I Thomas Irons of the county of Hendricks and state of Indiana calling to mind the certainty of death and the uncertianty of life, and being desirous to dispose of such estate as god hath instructed me with do so make this my last Will and Testament as follows to wit. 1st That all my just debts and funeral expences be paid out of the first money which may come into the hands of my excutor herein after named. And, as I have heretofore made advancements to my children, John, Jonathan, Nancy wife of Nicodemas Fletcher (now dead), Susan wife of J.R.Woodfill, Minerva wife of James Burgess, Sarah Jane wife of Smith Herson and my son Thomas, and for which I have taken notes of all except Fletcher, it is my will that each of them, above named shall recieve nothing of my estate until the remainder of my children shall have first had and received of my estate each the sum oftwo thousand dollars, and after those of my children, to wit, William and Meary wife of Oscar Hull shall have received said some of two thousand dollars, it is my will that the remainder of my estate both real and personal be equally divided among my several children equally share and share alike, the children of said Fletcher by my said daughter to have and receive the portion their mother would be entitled to if she were living.

Let me know if you wish a copy
Tny

Re: Jonathan J Irons

@@rmhunziker@hotmail.com  (View posts) Posted: 3 Feb 2003 2:10PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Irons
Well so much for assumptions! I never would have thought that a John and Jonathan would appear in the same family.

Does anyone know if probate records other than the will are maintained in Hendricks County and, if so where?

Re: Jonathan J Irons

@@rmhunziker@hotmail.com  (View posts) Posted: 3 Feb 2003 6:24PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Burgess, Irons, Clark, Clarke, Turner
The following case may well be related. I believe that "Burgess" is Col. James Burgess (b. 1 Aug 1826, Ohio; d. 20 Feb 1912 in Topeka, Kansas). Col. James Burgess married Elizabeth Minerva Irons 27 Aug 1846 in Clark County, Illinois. See http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&...

Elizabeth is the daughter of Thomas Irons (b. 1795, Tennessee; d. 1864, Hendricks County, Indiana) and sister of John Irons (probably the John Irons referenced below, b. 5 Aug 1819 in Washington County, Indiana; d. Aug 1864, Hendricks County, Indiana) and William W. Irons (29 May 1835, Liberty Township, Hendricks County, Indiana; d. 13 May 1906, Cartersburg, Hendricks County, Indiana). William married Mary Willis Clark (b. 27 Oct 1837, Danville, Hendricks County, Indiana; d. 17 Nov 1927, Danville, Hendricks County, Indiana), daughter of Edmund Clark (25 Aug 1813 in Clark County, Kentucky; d. 13 Apr 1866, Hendricks County, Indiana). I presume that this is the same as the Edmund Clarke listed below. Edmund was treasurer of Hendricks County for a number of years and believe also the sheriff. (I could be wrong on the latter.)

If these persons are who I think they are, then the referenced Clarke is the father of the referenced Burgess' sister-in-law.

Turner v. Burgess, 26 Ind. 195 (1866)

This was an action by Burgess, as administrator of the estate of Irons, deceased, against the appellants and one Edmund Clarke, upon a note signed by James Turner, and payable to the order of said Clarke, and delivered by Clarke to Irons, without indorsement. An answer of James Turner was filed, alleging the property in the note to be in one Isaac P. Turner, as heir at law of one Job Turner, deceased. Thereupon Isaac P. Turner was made a co-defendant, and filed an answer claiming the ownership of the note. To these answers a general denial was filed. Trial by the court, and finding for the appellee.

We are asked to reverse this cause on the ground that the finding of the court is not supported by the evidence. The statement of Clarke was that the note sued on was given to him by the defendant, James Turner, for $200 of the money belonging to the estate of Job Turner, now dead, and the note was handed by Clarke, as so much money, to John Irons, since deceased, but then clerk of the Common Pleas Court, with the rest of the money belonging to said estate, upon final settlement thereof. There was no evidence in conflict with this statement. Irons having received the note as so much money, the property in the note became his, and, unless accounted for by Irons, his administrator must account for it as money received upon final settlement with the distributees of the estate of said Job Turner, deceased, and is therefore entitled to maintain his action for its collection.

The judgment is affirmed, with five per cent. damages and costs.

Re: Jonathan J Irons

maarvin1  (View posts) Posted: 27 Feb 2003 9:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
I'm not a lawyer or a student; just looking for ancestors. My grandmother, Lettie May Irons, married to William Henry Harrison, b:June 19,1890 in Greenfield, IN, d: October 23,1918 in Indianapolis. Her parents were Alva Christopher Wilson & Fannie Demarius Irons, b:Nov 19,1870 in Gem, IN, d: Jan 30,1949 in Indianapolis.Her parents were James John M. Irons, b:1846 in Delaware Territory, IN, d: Sept 25 1891 in Indianapolis and Permilla Hall, b:Jan 12,1848 in Hancock Co.,d:June 25,1886 in Hancock Co. James John M. Irons parents were John M Irons b: in Hancock Co. and Emma ?? b: in Delaware Territory, IN.
This probably won't help you but anything is worth a try.

I have been looking for John Henry Harrison who married Emma Ella Mae Richardson (a Cherokee Indian??) I have their picture but can't find out any thing more. They lived somewhere around Indianapolis, out in the country.

Any info is appreciated.
Mary Alice
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