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Re: RE: Robert Glen Owen

rancyn40 — 2013-06-17 18:11:33Z

Joe Owen signed my Great Granparents marriage certificate. He is also listed as head of household on the 1880's census for the nieces and nephews. Unfortunately I am not able to prove that James's albert Powell's parents is John and Julia. I beleive someone incorrectly added the names of James's children as the parents names. So I am starting over again.

Re: RE: Robert Glen Owen

falsterden — 2013-06-17 00:42:24Z

Hi, nice to know you made progress!

Did you notice this question previously posted from EllinSpain:
"What proof is there that Joe Owens is related??? where is the connection to Powell?? is he a brother to the mum?? proof??"

I repeated the question:
"How do you know it is JOE who is a blood relative of James? Your source?"

KITTLE, STIDGER, >CA

ELLinSpain — 2013-06-11 07:28:29Z

1900
Name: Ottis C Stielzer
[Ottis C Stidger]
Age: 28
Birth Date: Mar 1872
Birthplace: Iowa
Home in 1900: Van Buren, Van Buren, Iowa
[Van Buren]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Nellie M Stielzer
Marriage Year: 1896
Years Married: 4
Father's Birthplace: Virginia
Mother's Birthplace: Iowa
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Name: Nellie M Stielzer
[Nellie M Stidger]
Age: 22
Birth Date: Dec 1877
Birthplace: Iowa
Home in 1900: Van Buren, Van Buren, Iowa
[Van Buren]
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Ottis C Stielzer
Marriage Year: 1896
Years Married: 4
Father's Birthplace: Ohio
Mother's Birthplace: Ohio
Mother: number of living children: 1
Mother: How many children: 1
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Name: Ruth C Stielzer
[Ruth C Stidger]
Age: 2
Birth Date: Aug 1897
Birthplace: Colorado
Home in 1900: Van Buren, Van Buren, Iowa
[Van Buren]
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter

1910
Otto C Stidger 38
Myrl N Stidger 31
Orpha B Stidger 7
Josehine O Stidger 4
Gertrude Stidger 3
Antelope, Kimball, Nebraska

1920
Otto C Stidger 47
Nellie Stidger 40
Orpha Stidger 17
Josephine Stidger 15
Gertrude Stidger 13
Mildred Stidger 4
[4 7/12]
Ella Stidger 1
[1 6/12]
Rohnerville, Humboldt, California

1930
Nellie Stidger 50 WIDOW
Mildred Stidger 14
Ella Myrl Stidger 11
Clifford Stidger 8
Gertrude Stidger 23
San Leandro, Alameda, California

Name: Ella S Mason
Social Security #: 552092841
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 16 Jul 1918
Birth Place: California
Death Date: 7 Mar 1968
Death Place: Alameda
Mother's Maiden Name: Kittle

Name: Mildred Helen Mason
[Mildred Helen Stidger]
Social Security #: 571091708
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 9 Aug 1915
Birth Place: California
Death Date: 20 May 1996
Death Place: Alameda
Mother's Maiden Name: Kittle
Father's Surname: Stidger

Name: Gertrude Erma Harmon
[Gertrude Erma Stidger]
Social Security #: 556030352
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 23 Jan 1907
Birth Place: Colorado
Death Date: 30 Sep 1947
Death Place: Alameda
Mother's Maiden Name: Kittle
Father's Surname: Stidger

Name: Dora Josephine Jack
[Dora Josephine Stidger]
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 30 Oct 1904
Birth Place: Missouri
Death Date: 1 Dec 1980
Death Place: Santa Clara
Mother's Maiden Name: Kittle
Father's Surname: Stidger

Name: Orpha Bonney Stidger
Birth Date: 7 Sep 1902
Birth Place: Mahaska, Iowa
Father's Name: Otto C Stidger
Mother's Name: Myrl Kittle
FHL Film Number: 979618

Name: Orpha Bonney Studebaker
Social Security #: 565050184
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 7 Sep 1902
Birth Place: Iowa
Death Date: 11 Sep 1979
Death Place: Alameda

Re: Family Search

ibmsb — 2013-06-10 01:30:44Z

I have some info on Stong, only back to Benjamin J. Stong (B: 1820). He may have been married to Ada Besta Duffield (1877-1967), daughter of George C. Duffield and Adalaide Stidger. That would've have made him very much older than Ada was.

Re: RE: Robert Glen Owen

digitalmama07 — 2013-05-24 01:09:47Z

Also,
has anyone found any information on Robert's sister, Dorothy? I can't find anything on her past the 1930 census.

RE: Robert Glen Owen

digitalmama07 — 2013-05-24 01:08:24Z

So, I managed to track down an address for the Owen's when they lived in Iowa. Maybe this will help in getting more information about Robert (ie: his life from 1950 until his death in 1967)...

708 Wall Ave
(FT) Des Moines, Iowa

I also learned that Joyce and the two daughters moved to Missouri in September of 1949, though I'm not sure if Robert moved with them. After the younger daughters birth in 1948, I have not been able to track down any other information on him...

Re: Norbert George Siegwarth

robinsiegwarth — 2013-05-18 08:43:04Z

thanks for the datas.
These i also found during my research but cannot find the marriage dates.

robin

Re: Norbert George Siegwarth

ELLinSpain — 2013-05-18 08:04:29Z

??
Name: Betty Siegwarth
SSN: 485-30-2080
Born: 13 Dec 1928
Died: May 1970
State (Year) SSN issued: Iowa (Before 1951)

1940
Name: Betty Jane Wagner
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1929
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Iowa
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Home in 1940: Dubuque, Dubuque, Iowa
View Map
Street: St Ambrosi Street
House Number: 1760
Inferred Residence in 1935: Dubuque, Dubuque, Iowa
Residence in 1935: Same House
Sheet Number: 15B
Attended School or College: Yes
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 4th grade
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Floyd Wagner 49
Esther Wagner 45
Mary Veronika Dorothy Mae Wagner 18
Lloyd Wagner 17
Calvin C Wagner 15
Paul E Wagner 13
Rosemary Wagner 12
Madonna A Wagner 10
Donald J Wagner 8
James E Wagner 6
Gerald Wagner 4

Name: Betty J Siegwarth
Gender: M (Male)
Residence Year: 1957
Street Address: 45 Hill
Residence Place: Dubuque, Iowa
Spouse: Norbort G Siegwarth
Publication Title: Dubuque, Iowa, City Directory, 1957

Name: Betty J Siegwarth
Gender: F (Female)
Residence Year: 1960
Street Address: 980
Residence Place: Dubuque, Iowa
Spouse: Norbert G Siegwarth
Publication Title: Dubuque, Iowa, City Directory, 1960

Re: Norbert George Siegwarth

ELLinSpain — 2013-05-18 07:52:56Z

A private family memorial service for Norbert "Norm" George Siegwarth, 87, of North Carolina, formerly of Gainesville, was held after his death Dec. 28, 2012.

Mr. Siegwarth was born Feb. 12, 1925, to George and Agnes Breson Siegwarth of Dubuque, Iowa. He served in the Navy during both World War II and the Korean War. He owned Ace Radio and TV Service for many years and later worked for Xerox as a service representative.

He is survived by his wife, Marci Wiens Siegwarth of Morehead City, N.C.; daughters Nancy Jensen and husband Dan of Morehead City, and Wanda Sindelar and husband Dan of Cresco, Iowa; sons Robert Siegwarth of Zwingle, Iowa, Gary Siegwarth of Elkader, Iowa, and John Siegwarth of Milton, Fla.; one sister, Marie Dubler of San Diego, Calif.; and also grandchildren and great-grandchildren.

He was preceded in death by his first wife, Betty Jane Wagner Siegwarth, and a grandson, Brian Waterman.

Name of Deceased: Norbert Norm Siegwarth
Obituary Date: 10 Jan 2013
Newspaper Location: Gainesville, Missouri, USA
Birth Date: 12 Feb 1925
Residence (at time of death): Gainesville, North Carolina, USA

Norbert George Siegwarth

robinsiegwarth — 2013-05-17 19:34:05Z

good evening,

during my research i found an obituary from end of December 2012 that Norbert George Siegwarth died.
If my researches are correct, he married Betty Jane Wagner (she died 07.mai 1970) and Donna Marie Clyne.

Searching for the marriage date and -places of these two marriages. Can someone assist ?

Thanks from Germany
Robin Siegwarth

Re: Tipperary, Iowa

brooklynn25 — 2013-05-15 13:53:36Z

There is a book re Tipperary, Gone But Not Forgotten by Rose MNarie Briggs, copyright, 1990. I believe the Lucas Co Historical socient in chariiton or the Chaaaaariton libary may have a copy of this book. My father lived there for a number of years as he was growin up. His mother, Mabel Storm Simpson, later moved to Newton, Iowa, after his father passed awary.

Re: Posted for Sioux & Woodbury counties

JoAnnMorlan — 2013-04-29 19:43:20Z

I have a Jacob Van de Hoef in my family tree from Netherlands and moved to Iowa. Had 2 daughters. Would be interested in sharing information!

Re: Kitchen's Settlement-Iowa

AnnLaemmlenLewis — 2013-04-29 17:17:30Z

Hi Stan. I'm a cousin looking for the same info. Have you found anything yet? I'm interested in sharing information if you'd like. Ann Lewis in Orem.

Re: Marjorie Ellen Glor, born 1934 in Iowa, begat Dennis Edwin Alexander

ELLinSpain — 2013-04-27 06:22:08Z

1940
Name: Marjorie Glor
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1935
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Iowa
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Home in 1940: Taylor, Appanoose, Iowa
View Map
Inferred Residence in 1935: Taylor, Appanoose, Iowa
Residence in 1935: Same House
Resident on farm in 1935: Yes
Sheet Number: 5A
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: None
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Arl Glor 56
Essie Glor 43
Goldie Glor 16
James Glor 14
Ruth Glor 9
Opal Glor 2

Re: Marjorie Ellen Glor, born 1934 in Iowa, begat Dennis Edwin Alexander

zapatahope5 — 2013-04-26 17:46:40Z

dont know if you still have this e-mail or not i realy hope you do cause you know my mother and i would like to know who you are you may be my brother i know she said she had 2 more sonya and johnny my e-mail is zapatahope5@aol.com if you know anything about this please let me know my phone is 361-220-9506 thank you

Re: Charles C or E Johnson

falsterden — 2013-04-05 17:57:24Z

To get additional help, you'll want to compile and post your known information. Post transcriptions of your records, and when you state information include the source of the information (not yourself - some other source). Place names should include the county (family history records are searched by county).

It's tough on you that there are so many people of that name and age - and some of them are married to a spouse with same name as his spouse! This is one reason why you'll want to be very detailed and specific and complete as you develop information, building on it one step at a time.

You have the 1900 census, but didn't state the immigration year. That's an example of why transcriptions of records are so awesome - the records include information that we forget to include when we just write in paragraph style about someone.

Here's a start at a summary, something for you to work with:

Seeking family history of Charles or Carl Johnson.
Called "Charley." (family knowledge)
Family had reunions in Canada in the early 1900s (family knowledge).
Born about December 1855 in Sweden (per 1900 census?).
Worked in lumbering and mining (source?)
Married 1882 in Michigan to (source?)
Caroline or Karen "Carrie" Anderson
Carrie was born abt 1865 in Denmark
They divorced about 1919 (source?)

CHILDREN born in Michigan
Edward Johnson born about 1891
Annie L. Johnson born about 1899
Carl Johnson born about 1907
Emma Johnson
Matilda "Tillie" Johnson

Lived in following places
(you didn't say what years he lived where, or give your source):
Menominee, Menominee County, Michigan
Faithorn, Menominee County, Michigan
Norway, Dickinson County, Michigan
Iron Mountain, Dickinson County, Michigan

Died 1942 in Rhinelander, Oneida, Wsconsin (source?)

Here's an incomplete transcription of 1910 census - I've gotta run but will check back. :D

1910 US Census
Menominee County, Michigan
Charles Johnson 55
Caroline Johnson 45
Edward Johnson 19
Annie Johnson 11
Carl Johnson 3

Re: Charles C or E Johnson

ritarodriguez123 — 2013-04-04 12:02:08Z

No, but I can't find him in Michigan before 1900 and thought that maybe he migrated in from areas that had large populations of Swedish people?

Re: Charles C or E Johnson

falsterden — 2013-04-03 20:47:03Z

You have another thread with much information about him. Was there information in that thread that led you to think he was in Iowa?

Charles C or E Johnson

ritarodriguez123 — 2013-04-01 14:07:26Z

Looking to see if a Charles C or E Johnson immigrated to the USA in about 1873 lived in Iowa before going to Wisconsin and Michigan. Charles shows birth as Dec 1855 and came to the USA from Sweden according to the MI Census.

Re: Patrick Gallagher and Elsie M Sharp

jtamchay — 2013-03-30 14:12:13Z

Well we are related...on the Sharp side...
Are you interested in exchanging information...I have quite a lot on the Sharp side.
I could send you what I have off line...my e-mail address is jtamchay@yahoo.com
my name is JoAnne Tambornino Chayer
I live in Minnesota
Your grandfather was a first cousin 2x removed of my grandmother Jessie Masters Bulen.

James Edward Sharp married Rachel Moore
Prudence Sharp(my line) and Edward Neal Sharp(your line) were children of this marriage
Prudence married John Masters and Edward Neal married Cora B. Weldon
Jessie Masters was child of Prudence and Elsie Mae was a child of Edward Neal
...and here we are related...

please communicate with me.
Jo

Re: Patrick Gallagher and Elsie M Sharp

mtdew201829 — 2013-03-30 02:34:09Z

George Francis Gallagher passed away Thursday March 21, 2013 in Bozeman surrounded by his loving family. He fought a courageous six- year battle with cancer. He was born February 19, 1943 to Veronica Marie Rickerl Gallagher and Clifford Paul Gallagher in Cresco, Iowa. They moved to Bozeman in 1945.

He attended Holy Rosary School and graduated in 1962. He had an outstanding high school basketball career. He met his wife, Joanne Roberts Gallagher on February 19, 1960 at his 16th birthday party. It was
love at first sight. They married on August 24, 1963. Their union was blessed with two sons, Michael Wayne Gallagher and Shawn Raymond Gallagher. George was the pillar of his family. Family was the most important part of his life.

George started his working career at a young age, first by working on his great aunt's farm. He also worked at Milam's Greenhouse, Phillips 66 Service Station, followed by Pacific Hide and Fur and ended his working career in 2000 when he retired from the Montana Power with 30 years of service.

George also coached high school girls' softball. He was also very involved with AAU wrestling for many years. He was a member of the bowling, pool and softball leagues in the Gallatin Valley. He belonged to the Gallatin Valley and the Montana Snowmobile Association. He was also a member of the Elks Club, National Rifle Association, the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation and Black Ram Archery Club.

He spent his time relaxing, hunting and fishing with his family and friends on Flathead Lake, and one of his most favored places, the Gravelly Mountain Range.

He spent his retirement years building his dream home, restoring his 1934 Chevy Coupe, and spending the summer months at his and Joanne's home on Shady Lane on Flathead Lake.

He is survived by his wife, Joanne Roberts Gallagher, and son, Michael Wayne (Brenda) Gallagher, granddaughters, Ashley Kae Gallagher and Jessica Marie Gallagher, son Shawn Raymond Gallagher, sisters, Sylvia Hammerland, Phyllis (David ) Johansen, brother in-law, David Roberts. He is also survived by two aunts, Joan Rickerl and Bernadette Hathaway and an uncle, Herman Rickerl, numerous nieces, nephews and cousins, great nieces and nephews.

He was preceded in death by his parents, Veronica and Clifford Gallagher, mother and father-in law, Betty Jo and Bill Roberts, Brother Raymond L. Gallagher and brother in-law David Hammerland.

Re: Patrick Gallagher and Elsie M Sharp

mtdew201829 — 2013-03-30 02:31:23Z

He was my grandfather

Manford Rerick Born Iowa; Died January 1940 Kirkland, Washington

oastwd — 2013-03-28 23:10:55Z

The Seattle Times Friday, January 26, 1940
Manford Rerick
Funeral services for Manford Rerick, 79 years old, a Kirkland fuel dealer, will be held at 2 o’clock tomorrow at Green’s Funeral Home in Kirkland. Burial will be in the cemetery there. Mr. Rerick died Wednesday at his home in Kirkland.

Mr. Rerick was born in Iowa. He moved to Seattle in 1907 and to Kirkland two years later. He was a sign painter there a short time and then entered the fuel business in 1911. He was active until taken ill about seven months ago.

Surviving are two sons, George and Percy Rerick, Kirkland; four daughters, Mrs. Blaine Gordon, Bremerton; Mrs. Jay Tew, North Bend; Mrs. Forrest Bennett, Portland, Oregon and Mrs. Alys Mayer, Kirkland; a brother, Charles Rerick, San Antonio, Texas and four sisters, Mrs. B.G. Burns and Mrs. Harry Newhouse of San Antonio, Mrs. Frank Wilkinson, Westboro, Missouri and Mrs. Charles Yeager, Stratford, Iowa.

Re: Patrick Gallagher and Elsie M Sharp

jtamchay — 2013-03-27 15:36:07Z

more info on George Gallagher please...how are you related to him?
thank you

Re: Patrick Gallagher and Elsie M Sharp

mtdew201829 — 2013-03-21 23:49:31Z

One note is today George Gallagher passed away on March 21 2013ps unfortunately I can't contact you at that adress

Mrs. Mary Hiller Born Iowa; Died 1958 Seattle, Washington

oastwd — 2013-03-20 17:51:57Z

The Seattle Daily Times Tuesday, September 23, 1958
Mrs. William Hiller Funeral
Funeral services for Mrs. Mary Hill 77, of Vashon Island, who died yesterday in a hospital of injuries suffered in a traffic accident Thursday, will be held tomorrow at 10:30 o’clock tomorrow in the Home Undertaking Chapel. Burial will be in Evergreen.

Mrs. Hiller, born in Iowa, came here in 1939 and in 1954 moved to Vashon.

Surviving are her husband, William; three daughters, Mrs. Viola R. Manchester, Olympia, Mrs. Orpha M. Daugherty, Raleigh, North Carolina and Eva Hiller, Honolulu; two sons, Floyd H. Hiller, Oswego, Oregon and Melvin H. Hiller, Cincinnati, Ohio; a sister, Mrs. Carrie Kelleher, Postville, Iowa and eight grandchildren.

Robert Glen Owen, b 1914 in Kansas City, MO

digitalmama07 — 2013-03-19 06:15:35Z

I'm looking for information on Robert Glen Owen (my great-grandfather). Not much is known, other than he enlisted in the army in 1942 (Jefferson Barracks), and had two daughters with Joyce Bernadine Owen (Ward), both born in the late 1940's, in Des Moines, Iowa. I also know his father's name was Homer, and his mother was Leona (he also had a sister, Dorothy, and a brother, Kenneth).

I've managed to track a few census records, but not enough to help me put together the missing pieces of my family history. I'm specifically looking for any information as to when he passed away, and more importantly, if he ever remarried and had more children.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Re: Obituary for Charles H. Gray of Chickasaw County

oastwd — 2013-03-16 17:52:58Z

I would try the Upham Memorial Library in Fredericksburg. They has an Ask A Librarian page:

http://www.fredericksburg.lib.ia.us/library-information/cont...

Re: JAMES ALBERT POWELL, b 1868 MO

falsterden — 2013-03-14 17:13:31Z

Here's a link to the family tree home page, which lists contact information.
LINK:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/l/Sandy-A-Mcl...

Good luck!

Re: JAMES ALBERT POWELL, b 1868 MO

rancyn40 — 2013-03-14 16:41:20Z

Wow this could be a strong possibility. James Albert Powell named his son John and a daughter Julia. How do I contact this owner of the tree you listed? Thank you.

Re: JAMES ALBERT POWELL, b 1868 MO

falsterden — 2013-03-14 03:11:30Z

Here's information from an online family tree to check out:

John H Powell died date unknown. He married Julia.

Children of John H Powell and Julia are:

* Mary Elizabeth Powell, b. 25 Feb 1867, Washington County, Ar, d. 19 Jul 1939, Van Buren,Crawford Co, Arkansas.

* Willis.A. Powell, b. Dec 1868, Mo., d. date unknown.

* J.A. Powell, b. 1870, d. date unknown.

* A.J. Powell, b. 1875, d. date unknown

LINK:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/l/Sandy-A-Mcl...

Obituary for Charles H. Gray of Chickasaw County

glorialouden63 — 2013-03-14 02:25:42Z

Charles H. Gray was born in Michigan on Oct. 24, 1868 and died April 13, 1942. His and his wife Pearl's gravestone is found in Rose Hill Cemetery in Fredericksburg, Chiskasaw Co. Am trying to locate an obituary for Charles and his wife Pearl. Pearl was born 1871 and died 1960. Any help is very appreciated. Thanks. Gloria

Obituary from Clayton County

glorialouden63 — 2013-03-14 02:14:53Z

Hi, am looking for an obituary for William H. Gray who was born Jan. 12, 1839 in Canada English and died Oct. 20, 1891 in Clayton County, Iowa. That is where his gravestone is found in Brown cemetery in Colesburg. His wife's name was Ellen, born in Illinois about 1847. Any help is much appreciated. Thank you. Gloria

Re: JAMES ALBERT POWELL, b 1868 MO

falsterden — 2013-03-12 20:33:00Z

Thanks ELLinSpain - and 1870 census??? James was born ca 1868.

rancyn40, I join in the question: how do you know it is JOE who is a blood relative of James? Your source?

This 1880 census may be the basis for stating that J.S. Owin is an uncle - OR M.C. Owin is an aunt. (= Joseph Owen and M. Christine Owen, I think)

1880 Census
Alma, Crawford, Arkansas
J. S. Owin 54 b abt 1826 Tennessee
M. C. Owin 45 b abt 1835 Tennessee
M. E. Powel 16 niece father b Illinois; mother b Missouri
W. A. Powel 12 nephew
J. A. Powel 10 nephew (prob age 8)
A. J. Powel 8 nephew (prob age 10)
All the Powel children are born in Missouri

If the relationship noted is correct then - based on the census alone - there are 3 possibilities:
1) Joe Owen is brother to the Powell children's mother
2) M. Christine is sister to the Powell children's father
3) M. Christine is sister to the Powell children's mother

Re: JAMES ALBERT POWELL, b 1868 MO

ELLinSpain — 2013-03-12 13:22:03Z

cannot see an Owen in Missouri in 1860's

What proof is there that Joe Owens is related??? where is the connection to Powell?? is he a brother to the mum?? proof??

Re: JAMES ALBERT POWELL, b 1868 MO

falsterden — 2013-03-12 11:42:00Z

Okay, then we'll drop the alternate 1880 census that EllinSpain located and stick with the family in Alma in 1880. Missouri Digital Heritage has a collection of death certificates that I searched but I did not find (listed in that collection) a Powell (a father for James) who died in the right time frame. The collection does not appear to be complete. I have not found James's family in the 1870 census. Mysterious. They may be indexed with a misspelling or an odd spelling of their surname (Povel, Pawell, etc). I tried wildcard * on Ancestry.com in various positions. They must be there - we are just not finding them so far.

Next both the husband and wife of the Owens couple should be traced back to find their siblings who could be candidates for James's mother or father. I haven't worked on that - is there a history of research on that?

ELLinSpain, you often find records I didn't find. Did you search for little James in the 1870 census?

Re: JAMES ALBERT POWELL, b 1868 MO

rancyn40 — 2013-03-12 04:24:11Z

I am 99% sure this is right. And I have seen this other record you are talking about. The family has always known James had two brothers and a older sister and that he was raised by an uncle Joe. I have James marriage certificate with Joseph Owen signature as witness and the census, which is how I figured out who James uncle was. And this is where I am stuck. I have James Death certificate also and no parents are listed. I don't think he applied for social security either. I will look into those records you posted too. Thanks so much for looking.

Re: Robert Glen Owen, b 1914 in Kansas City, MO

rancyn40 — 2013-03-12 03:57:28Z

I don't know which parents Joseph Owen was related to of James. It has been rumored that James parents were born in France but I have not found any proof. So, yes I am still searching. I am sure I have the right 1880 census and I believe they have the birthdates mixed up between A J and J A Powell. I appreciate any help I can get I really feel I am getting close. Someone out there has the answer. Thank you so much for replying and your help.

Re: Robert Glen Owen, b 1914 in Kansas City, MO

rancyn40 — 2013-03-12 03:57:00Z

Re: JAMES ALBERT POWELL, b 1868 MO

falsterden — 2013-03-12 00:38:55Z

Okay, so we're not sure if James is in
Alma, Crawford, Arkansas in 1880?
He could be the boy in Moore, Oregon, Missouri?

Re: Robert Glen Owen, b 1914 in Kansas City, MO

falsterden — 2013-03-11 23:56:47Z

Hi,

In earlier posts you were seeking the names of James's parents. Are you still seeking? Do you know the names of the parents of the Owen couple? I don't suppose you know which of the Owens was related to which of James's parents...

Simply as a quick reaction (not definitive) I'd guess there is likely no connection between your Owen family and this one. This Owen family originated in Kentucky rather than Tennessee.

1880 Census
Alma, Crawford, Arkansas
J. S. Owin 54 b abt 1826 Tennessee
M. C. Owin 45 b abt 1835 Tennessee
M. E. Powel 16 niece father b Illinois; mother b Missouri
W. A. Powel 12 nephew
J. A. Powel 10 nephew
A. J. Powel 8 nephew
All the Powel children are born in Missouri

"Your" James in 1940, as transcribed on Ancestry:
1940
Beaver, Caddo, Oklahoma
Willie Lee Clouse 28
Jaunita Getrue Clouse 30
James Floyd Clouse 7
Lango Edward Clouse 5
Coy Eugene Clouse 3
-- Clouse 2/12
James Albert Powell 70 widowed b abt 1870 MO relation to head of house: daughter [sic]; residence 1935 Pawnee, OK

Posting these records (which you have) for the benefit of the forum - to aid anyone who wants to try to help.

JAMES ALBERT POWELL, b 1868 MO

ELLinSpain — 2013-03-11 23:48:40Z

I THINK

W.A. is

Name: Willis A Powell
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1869
Residence: Crawford, Arkansas
Spouse's Name: Mannie Weese
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 26
Spouse's Residence: Crawford, Arkansas
Marriage Date: 13 May 1895
Marriage License Date: 13 May 1895
Marriage County: Crawford
Event Type: Marriage
FHL Film Number: 1028049

1900
Name: Willis Powel
Age: 31
Birth Date: Dec 1868
Birthplace: Missouri
Home in 1900: River, Crawford, Arkansas
[Crawford]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Nannie Powel
Marriage Year: 1896
Years Married: 4
Father's Birthplace: Missouri
Mother's Birthplace: Missouri
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Name: Nannie Powel
Age: 31
Birth Date: Jan 1869
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1900: River, Crawford, Arkansas
[Crawford]
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Willis Powel
Marriage Year: 1896
Years Married: 4
Father's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother's Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother: number of living children: 2
Mother: How many children: 6

j.a =

Name: James A Pawel
[James Albert Powell]
[James A Powell]
Marriage Date: 9 Sep 1894
Marriage Location: Polk, Missouri
Marriage County: Polk
Spouse Name: Nancy E Murray

1900
Name: James Powell
[James Albert Powell]
Age: 30
Birth Date: Mar 1870
Birthplace: Missouri
Home in 1900: North Choctaw, Lincoln, Oklahoma
[Lincoln]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Effie Powell
Marriage Year: 1894
Years Married: 6
Father's Birthplace: Ohio
Mother's Birthplace: Missouri
+
Name: Effie Powell
[Nancy Effie Murray Powell]
Age: 27
Birth Date: Feb 1873
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1900: North Choctaw, Lincoln, Oklahoma
[Lincoln]
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: James Powell
Marriage Year: 1894
Years Married: 6
Father's Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother's Birthplace: Missouri
Mother: number of living children: 2
Mother: How many children: 3

A.J =

1900
Name: Andrew Powel
[Andrew J Pound]
Age: 27
Birth Date: Nov 1872
Birthplace: Missouri
Home in 1900: Kansas City Ward 5, Jackson, Missouri
[Jackson]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Lilly M Powel
Marriage Year: 1896
Years Married: 4
Father's Birthplace: Missouri
Mother's Birthplace: Missouri
+
Name: Lilly M Powel
[Lilly M Pound]
Age: 24
Birth Date: Jul 1873
Birthplace: Kansas
Home in 1900: Kansas City Ward 5, Jackson, Missouri
[Jackson]
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Andrew Powel
Marriage Year: 1896
Years Married: 4
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's Birthplace: Kansas
Mother: number of living children: 3
Mother: How many children: 3

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1880
Name: Mary Powell
Age: 35
Birth Year: abt 1845
Birthplace: Missouri
Home in 1880: Moore, Oregon, Missouri
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee
+
Name: James A. Powell
Age: 12
Birth Year: abt 1868
Birthplace: Missouri
Home in 1880: Moore, Oregon, Missouri
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Missouri
Mother's name: Mary Powell
Mother's Birthplace: Missouri
+
Name: Nancy Powell
Age: 5
Birth Year: abt 1875
Birthplace: Missouri
Home in 1880: Moore, Oregon, Missouri
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Missouri
Mother's name: Mary Powell
Mother's Birthplace: Missouri

there are a number of quite referenced trees on Anc. but only 3 show the above Mary as mum - no father shown on any

Re: Robert Glen Owen, b 1914 in Kansas City, MO

rancyn40 — 2013-03-11 22:07:39Z

Congratulations on your find. I have been following the thread hoping something might come up related to my own search. My great grandfather was James albert Powell b.1868, his parents died when he was about three yrs old. He was raised by his Uncle Joe S. Owen. They are listed on the 1880 Alma, Arkansas census. I have been trying to find the names of James parents. I believe James's parents died in Missouri but not sure. James married Nancy Effie Murray in Polk, Missouri on 1894 and Joe Owen signed their marriage certificate. Unfortunately the 1880 census lists only the initials of the first names and I do not know the Aunt's name. If you come across any Powells related to your Owens I would be very interested.

Re: Robert Glen Owen, b 1914 in Kansas City, MO

falsterden — 2013-03-11 16:47:38Z

Very intriguing! Robert's mother's obit is definitely on the "wish list!" (Leona Owen died March 1975 in Kansas City, Missouri, per your finding.)

Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery on Interment.com, no Robert G. Owen:
http://www.interment.net/data/us/mo/stlouis/jeffbarr/o/jeffb...

Re: Robert Glen Owen, b 1914 in Kansas City, MO

falsterden — 2013-03-11 16:34:55Z

Apparently there's another Robert Glen Owen (1921-2009). He is buried in Kansas City, Jackson, Missouri:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Ow...;

1940
Brooking, Jackson, Missouri
Orville J Owen 45
Erma Owen 44
Caleman R Owen 21
Robert G Owen 19 <---- this could be the OTHER Robert Glen Owen

This is NOT your Robert digitalmama. I deleted the photo that was not your Robert.

Re: Robert Glen Owen, b 1914 in Kansas City, MO

falsterden — 2013-03-11 14:09:48Z

Excerpt from "Missouri the Center State: 1821-1915" by Walter Barlow Stevens

RE: Martin V. Owen - grandfather to Robert Glen Owen 1914-1967

"...On the 28th of December 1880, Mr. Owen was married to Miss Emma D. Porter, who was born in Kansas, near Pleasanton, a daughter of D. C. and Sarah (Bailey) Porter....To Mr. and Mrs. Owen have been born three children: Orpha Lee, now the wife of Dr. E. E. Robinson, a practicing physician living in Adrian; Ruby, the wife of Blaine McCullough, a farmer and stock-dealer living in Adrian; and Homer B., who is bookkeeper for the Adrian Banking Company. He married a Miss Dudley of Butler, Missouri."

Re: Robert Glen Owen, b 1914 in Kansas City, MO

falsterden — 2013-03-11 14:07:18Z

At some point you can read more about your (probable) ancestor Rev. James Quisenberry.

Re: Robert Glen Owen, b 1914 in Kansas City, MO

falsterden — 2013-03-11 14:06:25Z

Cool...

Re: Robert Glen Owen, b 1914 in Kansas City, MO

falsterden — 2013-03-11 14:05:15Z

Oh, I'll delete that picture - it's a different Robert.

You are welcome.

Re: Robert Glen Owen, b 1914 in Kansas City, MO

falsterden — 2013-03-11 13:56:14Z

Good news, forum, that a Find a Grave Memorial for
Robert Glen Owen (1914-1967) was created
yesterday 09 March 2013,
LINK:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=10...

Reared in Adrian, Bates, Missouri, served in US Army World War II, married Joyce Ward and had two daughters in Des Moines, Polk, Iowa, ca 1946 and 1948. Buried Crescent Hill Cemetery in Adrian near parents Homer B. Owen and Leona (Dudley) Owen and brother Kenneth E. Owen.

Still seeking his obituary and information about his life 1950-1967.