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Re: James M Bates Letcher KY son of Henry C Bates and Rachel Lee on 1880 census

Posted: 17 Jun 2004 10:21AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 8 Mar 2006 12:58PM GMT
Surnames: Reynolds, Lee, Bates, Friley,

Hi Pam still stuck,
Rachel Lee, a wife of Henry C Bates of Letcher Co KY and Isaac Friley of Roanoke VA, and mother of my Hortense Lee (Hortense b. 1861) is still a brick wall for us. I am getting a few hints every now and then...I will share what I have or what I think I have. I can only hope I am following the right leads. Maybe someone else can help us!


Vickie Stevens transcribed a birth record here for Rachel Lee's daughter which lists Rachel's birth place as Russell County Virginia so we gotta keep digging in Virginia for info on the Lee parents.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyletche/1874births.html

someday the answers will be found.

As far as David Lee and Sarah / Nancy Taylor goes I only have that hint from the annotated census that they are Rachel Lee's parents. Hortense named one of her children David probably after her grandfather but I am not sure that Hortense even knew her her grandparents or even her natural father. no father listed on her birth record.


Name Date Sex Race Parents Informant
1861 Russell County Birth Index
Lee, Georgia A. 07 Feb WFA Alexander M. & Eliza T. Lee Mother
***Lee, Hotence 27 May WMA Rachel Lee Mother
1860
Lee, Harriet 01 Nov SFA Mariah Alexander M. Lee-Owner
Lee, Males (Twins) 15 Jul WBMA Father a Negro & Nancy Lee Susan Fuller
1866
Lee, Abby L. 18 Feb WFA Wm. E. & Mary LEE
1869
Lee, E.S. 02 Feb WMA A.M. & E.T. Lee
1870, 1871


From: wallyb <wallyb@erinet.com>
Subject: David F. LEE
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 10:56:53 -0400
Hi Everyone;
Aug.13,1868 David F. Lee m Sarah Bates in Letcher Co., KY. They were in
Knott Co., KY in 1900-1920.
3 Mar. 1869 Sarah Lee m Robert Bates in Letcher Co., KY. They seperated
and she married Samuel Cook & lived in Knott Co., KY.
Robert Bates was first m to Phoebe Lee. She is in the 1860 Wise Co., VA
census with their son William age 1.
13 Mar 1870 Rachel Lee m Henry C. Bates in Letcher Co., KY.

Hortense Lee living with Henry C & Rachel (Lee) Bates in 1880 Letcher
Co., KY census.
I would like to determine the relationship of these Lee's. I believe
Sarah & Phoebe were sisters. I have not been able to determine the
parents of these Lee's.
Have a good weekend.
Patty M. Brashear wallyb@erinet.com

1850 Harlan County, KY Census
315-Dwelling houses numbered in the order of visitation
315-Families numbered in the order of visitation
The Name of every Person whose usual place of abode on the first day of June 1850, was in this family.
Name Age Sex Occupation Value of real estate owned Place of birth Married within the year Attended School within the year Persons over 20 years of age who cannot read or write Whether deaf and dumb, blind, insane, idiotic, pauper or convict
David Lee 26 M farmer 240 Kentucky - - marked - (Is this David Lee and Sarah Taylor or David lee and Sarah Bates?)
Sarah Lee 26 F - - Kentucky - - marked -
Jane Lee 06 F - - Kentucky - - - -
Rachel Lee 05 F - - Kentucky - - - -
Stephen Lee 03 M - - Kentucky - - - -
Joicy Lee 02 F - - Kentucky - - - -

1860 Harlan County, KY Census
Name Age Sex Occupation Place of Birth
David Lee Jr. 33 M farmer KY (Is this the Same David Lee should be age 36?)
Nancy Lee 30 F household duties VA (Where is Sarah (Taylor) Lee?)
Jane Lee 17 F domestic labourer KY
?** Rachel Lee 16 F - KY (?b. 1843-1845)
Stephen Lee 15 M farm labourer KY
Joicy Lee 12 F - KY
George Lee 07 M - KY
James Lee 06 M - KY
Andrew Lee 05 M - KY
Mary Lee 02 F - KY (is her middle initial E.?)

According to Brian C Caudill's copy of the 1870 "Annotated" Letcher County census book, Henry and
Rachel were listed as follows:

Precinct #2
108 BATES,
Henry C. 25 KY (s/o James Bates & Elizabeth Adams)
Rachel 28 KY (d/o David Lee & Sarah Taylor)

1870 Harlan County, KY Census
Name Age Place of Birth
David Lee 52 KY
Nancy Lee 40 KY (where is Sarah (Taylor) Lee should be age 46)
(where is Stephen)
(where is Rachel) (she is married to Henry C Bates in Letcher Co Kentucky I think~Kristie)
(Where is Joicy)

George Lee 18 KY
William Lee 14 KY (is his name James William Lee or Andrew William?)
(WHERE IS OTHER SON OR SONS)
Mary E. Lee 11 KY
Priscilla Lee 02 KY (is her middle name EVA? who m. Taylor?)
Lydia Lee 7/12 KY

1870 is this Isaac with Nancy Unknown living next to the Taylors?
1870 Census of Russell County, VA p.310B
http://www.rootsweb.com/~varussel/census/1870/310B.HTM
21 51 51 Taylor Alvin 40 M W house carpenter 236 Tennessee X X
22 51 51 Taylor Martha 37 F W keeping house Tennessee
23 51 51 Taylor Richard 18 M W shop hand Tennessee
24 51 51 Taylor Sarah 16 F W at home Tennessee X
25 51 51 Taylor Godfrey 13 M W at home Tennessee X
26 51 51 Taylor Marion 11 M W at home Tennessee X X
27 52 52 Friley Isaac 30 M W merchant 500 500 Virginia X
28 52 52 Friley Nancy 35 F W keeping house Virginia
29 53 53 Steele John 27 M W farm laborer 150 N Carolina X
30 53 53 Steele Lucinda 32 F W keeping house

1880 Letcher County KY Census
#324 Reynolds Joseph 32 V V V b.1848
Manerva 30 K O K
Morgan 05 K V K
Kentucky 03 K V K
Mary 08/1879 <1 K V K
Brumet Charles 23 V V V servent
Thacker Louisia 20 K K K servent
Laura B. 01 K K K
#328 Bates Henry C. 35 K K K farmer
Rachel 37 V V V
Marget 06 K K V see birth record Letcher KY mother's name is Rachel Lee
James M. 03 K K V
Belle D. 12/1879 <1 K K V
Bates John 27 K K K
Martha 25 K K K sister
James 17 K K K brother
* Lee Hortence 19 V V V servent (or stepdaughter?) 1861 birth Record Russell Co VA lists her mother as Rachel Lee
Irven 12/1879 <1 K K V boarder (son of Hortense and "Buddy" Baker. Buddy was a lawyer and I think his full name is Solomon Emory Baker son of Elijah Baker)

1890 Letcher KY Census Destroyed in KY fire??

This might give clues to where to look as well:

David Lee, Sr.. - 1900 Harlan County, KY census
Location Name of each person whose place of abode on June 1, 1900, was in this family Relationship Personal Description Nativity Citizenship Occupation, Trade or Profession Education Ownership of Home
- Date of Birth - Number of dwelling house in the order of visitation Number of family in the order of visitation Relationship of each person to the head of the family Color of race Sex Month Year Age at last birthday Whether single, married, widowed or divorced Number of years married Mother of how many children Number of children living Place of birth of this person Place of birth of Father of this person Place of birth of Mother of this person Year of immigration to the United States Number of years in the United States Naturalization Occupation Years not employed Attended school in months Can read Can write Can speak English Owned or rented Owned free or mortgaged Farm or house Number of farm schedule

125 125 Lee, David Sr. Head W M Dec 1823 77 M 55 - - Kentucky Kentucky Kentucky -- - Farmer - - yes yes yes O F F 117
Lee, Nancy Wife W F - 1830 70 M 55 10 07 Kentucky Kentucky Kentucky - - - - - - no no yes - - - -
Taylor, Eva Daughter W F Feb 1868 32 Wd 0 - Kentucky Kentucky Kentucky - - - Cook - - no no yes - - - -

1900 Letcher County KY Census listin Joseph C Reynolds second wife and ex wife as a neighbor.
#256 Reynolds Joseph C.11/1848 51 V V V married 35 years (previous wife is Manerva Morgan guess who lives next door?)
* Lee Hotence 08/1849 50 K K K widowed ****year of birth a mistake on census
Coleman 11/1892 07 K V V son month of birth a mistake
Aggie 10/1894 05 K V V dau (b. 3/6/1895 according to her Oak Hill Ohio Orbit spelled Augie)
James 07/1895 04 K V V son (middle initial M. according to his mothers orbit)
Margie 09/1898 01 K V V daughter (Marjorie buried in Lexington Cemetery)
#257 Reynolds, Minervey b. March 1851 head of household/widowed Farmer
Mary dau age 18
William C. son age 8 or 9
_______________________________________________________
1910 Census...Canadian Pittsburg Co, Oklahoma Census

KY 1920 Census Letcher County Vol 61 ed 67 sheet 2 line 25
# Reynolds Joseph C. 71 V V V farmer
Hartence 60 V V V wife back to 1860 birth year!
Wannebo Angie 24 K V V daughter
Reynolds James 22 K V V coal miner son
Margie 20 K V V daughter
Dorthy 05 W K WV granddaughter


1930 Grandpa Joseph Reynolds died in Lewis County WA after being in the county for a little over a year.
1943 Hortense died in Lexington Kentucky in the home of her Daughter Marjorie Lee (Reynolds) Rogers
_________________________________
is this below the same family Hortense lived with when she was 19?

Lee, Rachel (1843 - ) - female
b. 1843 in Virginia
father: Lee, David (*1808 - )
mother: Taylor, Sarah\Nancy (*1812 - )
spouse: Bates, Henry C. (~1844 - )
- m. in Letcher County, KY
----------child: Bates, Margaret (~1874 - )
----------child: Bates, James (~1877 - )
----------child: Bates, Belle A. (1879 - )

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http://hometown.aol.com/RLLeeGenealogy/Family/LEE_David_1824...
father:David Lee
Birth: ~ 1824 in Harlan County, Kentucky
Death: after 1900 in Harlan County, Kentucky
Burial: -
Parents: Stephen Lee and Joicy
Spouse: Sarah Chaney Nancy Taylor
Marriage: -
Children: Jane Lee, Rachel Lee, Stephen F. Lee, Jincy C. Lee, George Lee, James Garrett Lee, William Andrew Lee, Jincy C. Lee, Eva Priscilla Lee, Lydia Lee, Catherine Lee, Sarah Lee

father of David??Stephen Lee
Birth: ~ 1800 in Virginia
Death: after 1870 in Harlan County, Kentucky
Burial: -
Parents: Andrew Lee and Peggy
Spouse: Joicy
Marriage: -
Children: Jane Lee, David E. Lee, Manerva Lee, Rachel Lee, Nancy Lee, Mary "Polly" Lee, Elizabeth Lee
Occupation: Farmer
Military Service: -
Census & Tax Lists: 1820, 1830, 1840, 1850, 1860,
Land Records: 1829 Harlan County, KY , 1837 Harlan County, KY , 1844 Harlan County, KY , 1845 Harlan County, KY


d. October 27, 1943
Reynolds, Mrs. Hortense, 82 died at 12:15 o’clock this afternoon at the home of a daughter, Mrs. G.O.Rogers, on the Spurr pike, after an illness of several months. She was a daughter of the late Isaac and Rachel Lee Friley, of Roanoke, Va. Survivors include two other daughters, Mrs. Amanda Triplett, Seattle, Wash., and Mrs. Audrey Potter, Whitesburg; five sons, Luther Baker, Whitesburg; Irvin and Elijah Baker both of Keene, Va; James M. Reynolds, Detroit, Mich., and Coleman Reynolds, Fairbanks, Alaska and 18 grand children. Her body was removed to Kerr Brothers funeral home.

Joseph "Coleman" Reynolds is my father and was born in 1892 lived in Millstone Letcher Co KY. His father also J.C. Reynolds b. 1847 was my grandmother b. 1861 Hortense's last husband. my father was elderly when I was born.

thanks for your help and hope we can solve the puzzles together.

Kristie
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