I have been reviewing my papers on the Shuman family and came across a family sheet of John and Jane (Feyler) Shuman's family that was written by their granddaughter Nancy (Shuman) Schwartz (unfortunately not dated). She lists 13 children for John and Jane but there is not a Mary Ann nor a Joel. This certainly isn't definitive evidence that they weren't children of John and Jane but it does introduce a seed of doubt. This John died in 1853 but there was another John Shuman who died insolvent in 1850. I am still trying to sort out their relationship because Broad Bay Pioneers has John (d. 1850) as the father of John (d. 1853) but my research has led me to believe that the he was instead an uncle. I would be very interested in sharing the research that we have each done because two heads are much better than one!