thank you again that helped quite a bit :), do you know if it was joseph sr's mother or father that he shared with John Leonetti? i think i found Leonetti in essex mass. its tricky for me though because im only using the free service so far. also my grandfather ralph remembers some cousins that lived in that area that still went by delorfano or dell 'orfano or something like that. i don't know if that would help you out at all.