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Re: Michigan Central Railroad Gladwin Branch

rmoore7099 — 2013-05-23 22:40:02Z

thanks you for the info
Does anyone know when regular passenger service onthe MCR from Gladwin south ended

any info on the MCR service in Gladwin most appreciated

Re: Michigan Central Railroad Gladwin Branch

blake8105 — 2013-05-23 00:52:59Z

tracks pulled in 1964. last train would be late 1963 or early 1964

Obit lookup for Julia & Lawrence Mayhew needed

BobWalls72 — 2013-05-05 20:54:10Z

I would really appreciate anyone to look up obits for the following people.
Julia Mayhew February 2, 1972, Col. 5, Page 2
Lawrence Mayhew August 28, 1968, Col. 5, Page 1
I got the above information off of the web site for index. I hope I have the Column and Page in the proper order. Thank you very much for your help.
Bob Walls

Ernest Spohn and Sadie (Ladd) Spohn and family

SCIGSC — 2013-04-19 16:16:34Z

Marriage Date: 24 Dec 1897
Place: Frost, Clare, Michigan
Groom - Ernest A. Spohn, 21 years, b. 1876 in St.Clair Co., Michigan
Bride - Anna Belle Sturgis, 17 years, b. 1880 in Livingston Co., Michigan
Groom's parents are - Burton L. Spohn and Rachael Doty
Bride's parents are - George Sturgis and Arletta Moore
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Marriage Date: 28 Jun 1906
Place: Harrison, Clare, Michigan
Groom - Ernest Spohn, 29 years, b. 1877 in St. Clair Co., Michigan
Bride - Sadie Ladd, 21 years, b. 1885 in Sanilac Co., Michigan
Groom's parents are - Burton Spohn and Rachel Doty
Bride's parents are - Anthony Ladd and Julia Smith
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1910 Federal Census - Michigan > Gladwin > Sage > 0114 > 12
Ernest A Spohn 32
Sadie Spohn 25
1. Lelah Spohn 3
2. Fern Spohn 0
This record shows that Ernest and Sadie have been married for 3 years.
This record shows that Sadie is the mother of 2 kids with 2 kids still living.
This record shows that Ernest has been married once before
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1920 Federal Census - Michigan > Gladwin > Sage > District 179 > 12
Ernest A Spohn 42
Sadie A Spohn 34
1. Lelah M Spohn 12
2. Fern M Spohn 10
3. Clarance B Spohn 9
4. Maggie B Spohn 7
5. Winefred Spohn 5
6. Velma R Spohn 3
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1930 Federal Census - Michigan > Gladwin > Sage > District 14 > 3
Ernest Spohn 51
Sadie Spohn 45
1. Lela Spohn 23
2. Fern Spohn 20
3. Clarence Spohn 19
4. Blanche Spohn 17
5. Winifred Spohn 15
6. Velma Spohn 13
7. Edith Spohn 10
8. Dorothy Spohn 5
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1940 Federal Census - Michigan > Gladwin > Sage > 26-14 > 14
Ernest Spohn 62
Sadie Spohn 55
3. Clarence Spohn 29
7. Edith Spohn 19
8. Dorothy Spohn 15
Clarence Spohn 65 brother
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My notes --- Other information that I found
1. Lelah & Howard Grove
2. Fern & Leonel Hayward
3. Clarence Spohn
4. Blanche & Charles Near
5. Winifred & Phillip Ely
6. Velma & Elmer McIntosh
7. Edith & Leo Gizicki
8. Dorothy & James Beavers
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Mrs. Velma Rachel McIntosh Saginaw, Michigan.

A great mother, grandmother, neighbor and wonderful friend to all, Velma passed away Wednesday, April 17, 2013 at her home following a lengthy illness. The daughter of the late Ernest and Sadie (Ladd) Spohn, Velma was born April 25, 1916 in Gladwin, Michigan and would have celebrated her 97th birthday this month. She married Elmer McIntosh on November 12, 1932. He predeceased her November 20, 1993. Velma was a life member of the Society of Mayflower Descendants of Michigan and was a descendant of Edward Doty. She was best known for her love of walking the Mackinaw Bridge on Labor Day, which she had done for at least 17 times, the last time with all of her children. Velma loved working in her yard and had the most beautiful flower garden around.

Surviving are her children, Richard and Margaret McIntosh, Saginaw; Roger and Milissa McIntosh, East Tawas; Steven McIntosh, Saginaw; Sandra and Melvin Davis, Bay City; a daughter-in-law, Judith McIntosh, Bay City; 12 grandchildren; 12 great-grandchildren; seven great-great-grandchildren. Velma was preceded in death by two sons, Ronald and Marvin McIntosh, two grandsons and by six sisters and one brother.

Funeral service will take place 11:00 a.m. Monday, April 22, 2013 at The Snow Funeral Home, 3775 N. Center Rd., (between Shattuck and McCarty). Interment will follow at Chapel Hill Cemetery in Freeland, Michigan. Friends may call at the funeral home where the family will be present on Sunday from 1:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. and on Monday from 10:00 a.m. until time of service. In lieu of flowers, those planning an expression of sympathy may wish to consider memorials to St. Jude Children’s Hospital, the Salvation Army or the Saginaw City Rescue Mission.

Re: Diffin Ancestry

hazeldiffin1625 — 2013-03-31 13:12:29Z

Hi i have the name's you mention will have to look over my note's there are a lot of Diffin's still in Scotland as you say to on doing my research a lot if not all on scotlands site are from my line Richard Diffin 1846 was my gggrandad his father was John Diffin on some of the record's its Duffin really nice to see yr reply
Kind regards Hazel

Re: Obituaries?

ancestorhunt1000 — 2013-03-30 12:51:08Z

Craig,

If you goto this link on www.findagrave.com you'll find almost everything you need regarding obituaries. This link below: Will take you straight to Karoline Tanya (Hahn) Krahner memorial. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Kr...;

The Memorial is linked with Julius Krahner and their children. Not sure if I have all their posted obituaries entered yet. Though this will help you.

Created by: Thomas Ladner
Record added: Feb 23, 2011
Find A Grave Memorial# 66044000

Re: Obituaries?

hahncraiga — 2013-03-30 12:50:27Z

Thank you for getting back with me on this matter. I checked out the Index you gave me and found the name of seven members of the same family I am interested listed in it. The person who died in 1943 that you mention was Karoline Tanya Krahner and she died Dec 21 1943. Also listed were her husband Julius (March 29, 1939), Sons Gottlieb (October 22, 1961) his wife Lydia (January 28, 1994), Emil (April 7, 1982)his wife Florence (Mary 12, 1996) and Grandson Keith Emil (May 18 1984). Any of the names I have listed I would be interested in their obituaries, but Karoline is the one I am intersted in the most. Any help in this matter is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your help.

Craig

Re: Diffin Ancestry

Seanamhairatthelake52 — 2013-03-30 12:48:57Z

I was born Marina Diffin in Greenock, Scotland. There are many Diffins still living in Greenock and surounding area. I go back to Scotland every other year and spend time with the Diffin clan of which there are many.
My dad was Archibald Diffin, his dad was Simon Diffin and as far as I know all born in Greenock, Scotland. There are several Diffin Cousins in the United States.

Cheers Marina

Re: Lottie Reading

carebearule — 2013-02-04 14:37:21Z

Hello
Lottie's maiden name was Ritter. I contacted someone from Gladwin County and they were able to help me .
Thanks
Ann

Re: MUMA FAMILY

tomdladner — 2013-02-04 14:36:47Z

Dear Karen,

There seems to be no Obituary for a Thomas Muma Sr., (died 1901) in the Gladwin County Record at all. Only one for Thomas Corey Muma in 1928. Second regarding Percy Muma? Once again no obituary for him only this brief writeup below:

Mr. and Mrs. Parker Weaver and daughter Betty visited Sunday afternoon at the home of Charles Weaver and also called on Percy Muma who is in poor health. GCG 6-6/1944.

Re: Nancy Muma Weaver obituary. You can find her obituary on Findagrave memorial I.D. 67705162 and also Alexander Muma Obituary on Findagrave memorial I.D. 40682162. Hope this helps you...

Re: Obituaries?

tomdladner — 2013-02-04 13:33:45Z

Please post the Names of the deceased who died in 1943.
Note: I do alot of Obituary look-ups here in Gladwin County, Michigan and our Obituary Index can be found on the Gladwin County Genealogical Society, Inc. Webpage at: www.gcgsmichigan.org

Re: Lottie Reading

thomasker2 — 2013-02-03 19:17:42Z

I’m not related to any member of this family.

What is her "given" name????

What is her married name?

What is her mother's name??????????

Lottie Reading

carebearule — 2013-02-03 13:27:32Z

Hello
I need help trying to find date of death for Lottie Reading. She was born in PA about 1902. She was living in Billings Twp in 1967 when her mother died.
Thanks
Ann

Re: Stickney families in Gladwin Co.

suek_g — 2012-12-24 15:52:32Z

Just recently received this from Tom Ladner. Had no idea Jessie had divorced and remarried and had never been able to find her obit. and grave despite Delmer saying his mother was buried in Butman cemetery.

From Tom Ladner 12/16/2012
SERVICES FRIDAY FOR MRS. CHARETTE

Funeral services for Mrs. Myrtle Charette, 55, will be held on Friday afternon at 2 o'clock from the Hall Funeral Home. Elder George White of the Reorganized Latter Day Saints Church will officiate and burial will be made in the Butman cemetery.

Myrtle Muma was born in Gladwin county on April 8, 1889, the daughter of Alec and Jane Muma. She was married to Wesley Charett in 1936, making their home in Franklin township, Clare county. Mrs. Charette has been in ill health for the past five years and passed away on Tuesday, May 18.

Surviving are her husband, Wesley; three sons, Leon Stickney, of Three Oaks, Delmar Stickney of Lansing and Alec Stickney of Elm Hurst, Ill.; one daughter, Mrs. Ethel Kennedy, of Kalkaska county; three brothers, Harry and Charles Muma, of Roscommon county, Samuel Muma of Flint; one sister, Mrs. Rosa Matthews of Gladwin; 10 grandchildren and three great-grandchildren. One daughter, Alma, preceded her mother in death. Gladwin County Record dated 5-19/1954 Column - 2 Page - 1.

Obituaries?

hahncraiga — 2012-12-22 04:27:35Z

Where would be a great source to write to to try and obtain an obituary for someone who died in Gladwin County. I have a couple of people who died in 1943 whose obituaries I am interested in obtaining. Any and all help in this matter is greatly appreciated. Thanks for everything.

Re: Obit and grave location needed for Sarah W. Channell. She resided in Beaverton on Dundas Road.

tomdladner — 2012-12-13 01:24:05Z

I've just created a memorial for her! On Findagrave.com & have her linked up also with Charles her husband... Please, visit this link to view them at: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=10...

Note: According to her Gladwin County Record obituary. She was cremated.

Abt. 10 yrs. go! I walked nearly all the Headstones out their & transcribed them {Dale/Tobacco Twp. Cemetery} & never came across a marker or headstone for this couple. If someone has one? Please, upload a photo to the above link. Thanks

Re: ESTEY

elizabethgorek — 2012-11-03 12:38:53Z

Hello,
My Grandmother was the daughter of William and Idella Lucretia McDowell. Her name was Beatrice McDowell Kitchen. She was and artist with the Canadian Mission Press in China. Idella was also a gifted artist. I am an artist as well and because the female line seem to carry an art gene ( my mother and sister ) I am interested in tracking any other artists and hopefully seeing some of their work.

ESTEY

KSadler33 — 2012-11-03 12:36:25Z

I have Isaac ESTEY, wife unknown, who had a daughter Idella Lucretia, born 1862 in Oxford County, Ontario who married William McDOWELL in Bad Axe, Mich. in 1885. Isaac also had a daughter Clara who married Frank MALOTT. Are you interested in these families? Do you know Isaac's wife's name?
Sincerely
Kathy (Sadler) Miklovich

Isaac Estey

2012-11-03 12:35:41Z

I have an Isaac Estey b. c. 1859, in Maine, possibly Aroostook. Son of John L. Estey and Charlotte Randall. Her first husband was Solomon Estey. Siblings of Isaac were Charles, Sabrina, Flora and Emma

ESTEY ESTY BISBEE

2012-11-03 12:34:48Z

I am researching the names Estey, Esty, and Bisbee. I have a very large database and am interested in any information on these names. Estey decendants of Mary Towne and Isaac Estey and decendants of Thomas Besbeech (Bisbee) I am interested in Gladwin County MI genealogy particularly the origin of the name of Estey Michigan.

Re: Obit and grave location needed for Sarah W. Channell. She resided in Beaverton on Dundas Road.

ldkrrogers — 2012-10-11 02:57:19Z

I would like to thank everyone for all the responses. One of my cousins sent Sarah's obit to me. I still don't have a photo of her head stone yet. I didn't post it on my public tree yet though. My tree is "Family Tree for Harvey and Rogers" if anyone would like to look at Sarah's profile and add any stories or comments you are all welcome to. My tree is public. http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/9309350/person/-450524712

Re: Obit and grave location needed for Sarah W. Channell. She resided in Beaverton on Dundas Road.

al2377 — 2012-10-10 02:03:25Z

Hello everyone, Sarah W. Channell is Buried @ Dale cemetary. She was my Grandmother and is still missed by the whole family. Having just recently Lost, My Aunt Ethel Kimball (R.I.P), Survived by Leona McManus, Charlotte Sherman, Judy Letson, Charles H. Channell Jr.
Sorry no son named Roger, and the house was on the river creek

Re: slusser

gladwinguy74 — 2012-09-14 13:01:05Z

alice, i know it has been a few years since your posting but i work with a slusser but her family is from sterling. she has family in gladwin. i could get you in touch with her if it would help you. let me know.

Re: LeGrand E. SLUSSAR (b abt 1861 Orleans Co., NY), s/o Martin SLUSSAR

phedgecoth67 — 2012-09-14 13:00:22Z

Was your great grandfather LeGrand E. Slussar, a Michigan Probate Judge? If so, what can you tell me about him. Thank you.

Re: LeGrand E. SLUSSAR (b abt 1861 Orleans Co., NY), s/o Martin SLUSSAR

marthalangham46 — 2012-09-14 12:59:38Z

Legrand was my great grandfather. I have some history on the slussar/slusser family. waiting to hear from you.

Re: Looking for a marriage record for Orin Burton Trimble and Irene Grace Hemstreet

SCIGSC — 2011-10-30 21:24:15Z

Orin B Trimble was
born Nov 19, 1915 and
died Aug 20, 1978 in Bay County Michigan

Irene Grace Hemstreet Trimble was
born Nov 7, 1920 and
died Oct 6, 1993 in Bay County, Michigan

Have you tried to get a copy of the obits from the Bay City Newspaper ??

The obits might list the date of marraige ..

Lookup volunteer

lindakolinski — 2011-10-26 18:23:07Z

I have heard that raogk.org will be offline indefinitely due to server problems and illness of the website coordinator.

I want to let you know that I will still do the following lookups:

Gladwin Rural Agricultural School Class of 1949 picture.

Anderson, Irene
Atkinson, Leo
Augustine, Betty
Bellinger, Esther
Berry, Bill
Brubaker, Joe
Brubaker, Russell
Bruner, Delbert
Budai, Robert
Buzzell, Louis
Cook, Marian - Secretary
Councell, Carmen
Cronk, Devere
Dubey, Donald
Edick, Ann
Endert, Frieda
Fetterolf, Eloise
Foor, Diane
Foutch, Louis
Friesen, John
Galligar, Norman
Hartman, Weston - Superintendent
Heinz, James
Herlan, Betty
Hetherington, Betty
Hugget, Vivian - Treasurer
Hutson, Phyllis
Kinney, Harold
Knake, Henrietta
Kolinski, Clara
Kolinski, Jacob
Kranich, Alice
Kravat, Joe
Lyons, Bill
Major, Joyce
McColley, Derry
McKenna, Mildred
McQueston, Sylvia
Mitchell, Betty
Mitchell, Julia
Myers, Robert
Nearing, Wayne
Nickless, Mary Helen
Norton, Bill
Olin, Bonnajean
Page, Anita
Pahl, Laura
Palmer, Mary
Peters, Luella
Plude, Jeanne
Reid, Betty
Reithel, Jack
Renas, Betty - President
Rice, Doris
Robbins, Kenneth - Principal
Ryden, Carl
Scott, Carol
Seipke, Laurabelle
Shea, Rose Ann
Sherman, Joan
Shultz, Martha
Simon, Robert
Suter, Dolores
Wagar, Annalee
Weiman, Robert
Wolfe, Viola
Wyckoff, Dorothy
Ziemer, Lydia
Zimmer, Mae

Linda

Re: What does I.O.O.F mean

DFantana — 2011-09-25 17:36:56Z

Thank you

Re: What does I.O.O.F mean

CarolynStead57 — 2011-09-22 02:13:58Z

Independent Order of Oddfellows

What does I.O.O.F mean

DFantana — 2011-09-21 17:29:00Z

In William Hall's obituary it says the ballbearers were of I.O.O.F of which he was a member of.
William dod Dec 11,1918 Gladwin,MI
What does that mean? Is I.O.O.F a group of some kind?

Old Demaray Farm House

DFantana — 2011-08-14 16:48:11Z

When I was a little girl my family used to go up to visit my Aunt Dorothy Hall Whitney and her family at this 2 story farm house built of stones.
It was the house my dad Elmer Hall grew up in with his family during 1920's.
Later I learn it was Edwin and Catherine Demaray's house at one time and then when they died it became their son Duncan Demaray's house.I read the house is on Swanstra Rd in.Gladwin,Mich
The last I heard you can't see the house from the road any more because of the pine trees,
I wonder about that house what it looks like today,the history of it.If there are any Demarays or Halls that still live near by.

Re: Obit and grave location needed for Sarah W. Channell. She resided in Beaverton on Dundas Road.

juniorsixtoes — 2011-06-21 14:41:14Z

hi yes i knew sarah very good she was a nice lady and i thought alot of her she lived in a little house on dundas road and she had a son named roger i believe she was a wonderful lady i am not sure where she is buried but i will try to find out for you cause my cousin was married 1 time to her son

Re: Cooper

genisys — 2011-04-12 13:10:41Z

Philip Cooper was the son of Andrew Cooper & Anna Whipple

Re: Looking for a marriage record for Orin Burton Trimble and Irene Grace Hemstreet

amidd67 — 2011-03-27 20:12:27Z

I have contacted Bay, Saginaw, Gladwin and Iosco Counties and haven't been able to find a marriage record. I will try the State of Michigan. I wonder if The Library of Michigan would have any information. I am always looking for a less expensive alternative.

Thanks for the information.

Looking for a marriage record for Orin Burton Trimble and Irene Grace Hemstreet

amidd67 — 2011-03-26 12:46:31Z

Orin was born 11/19/1915 and Grace was born 11/7/1920. Orin was living with his parents in Gladwin Twp., Gladwin Co., Michigan during the 1930 Census.

Thank you.

Ann Marie

Re: Looking for a marriage record for Orin Burton Trimble and Irene Grace Hemstreet

thomasker2 — 2011-03-26 12:46:31Z

I’m not related to any member of this family.

1930 is the last available census at this time.

The marriage time period is too recent.

Contact the county clerks office or the state of MICH.

Re: Winn Family of Gladwin Co.

Beachlyn — 2011-03-17 02:19:02Z

My husband's G Grandfather James Madison Winn (1872-1955) & G Grandmother Mary Jane Robinson (1867- 1950) had a son George William (1893-1979). They all lived in Delaware Co.,OH., then came to Gladwin, MI. I have pics of both, and 1880-1920 censuses. He appears in the 1900 Census with mom & dad as a 7 year old. Names are misspelled as "Wynne". George ended up in Grand Rapids, Kent Co., MI. I also have him in 1910 & 1930.

Lynn Heckerthorn
Beachlyn@chartemi.net

* I hope you're still out there & would like to share!

Re: Winn Family of Gladwin Co.

Beachlyn — 2011-03-17 00:15:44Z

Kathy, If you're still out there, I have your info & pics.

Lynn Heckerthorn
Beachlyn@chartermi.net

Re: Charles Frederick STROHKIRCH

JandDMalcho — 2011-03-02 18:31:38Z

thank you so much for your help i am currently inputting information that i have gathered and have not sighned up yet but plan to very soon again thanks so much for your help i will be in contact

Re: Charles Frederick STROHKIRCH

ghinessk — 2011-02-18 14:44:19Z

Hi Deanne Malcho (Davidson) -- Thank you for contacting me.

I have quite a lot of my MALCHO MALCHOW information online within my "BLATCHFORDs of Somerset Co, England" family tree. If you can access this tree on my Ancestry ID ghinessk, you can check it to see if you recognize any of the MALCHOs I have.

All my MALCHO / MALCHOW people trace their earliest origins in Canada to Ellice Twp, Perth Co, Ontario -- from about 1855 when the family arrived there.

In both the 1861 and 1871 Censuses, their surname was recorded/transcribed as MALGO. This might help you in your search.

Regards, Gord

Re: Charles Frederick STROHKIRCH

JandDMalcho — 2011-02-11 14:46:39Z

I may be a Decendant of Joseph Malcho as i have married a Malcho and Joseph is in our family tree. I have just started researching the family tree if you have any Questions i may be of some help if we are talking about the same person.
Please let me know if i can help
Deanne Malcho (Davidson)

Re: Obit/Death notice help needed

cjlhp8 — 2011-02-08 21:37:33Z

Thank you Thank you Thank you. I appreciate this so much.
Chris

Re: Obit/Death notice help needed

SCIGSC — 2011-02-08 14:37:48Z

I found a death cert for a
David Duvall, age 36,
who died Jan 20, 1904

His parents are listed as
Benjamin J. Duvall and Anna Huntune

see a scan of the death cert here
http://seekingmichigan.org/u?/p129401coll7,533436

Re: Diffin Ancestry

hazeldiffin1625 — 2010-05-19 12:48:06Z

Hi thank you for replying iv not been doing this for very long but im not doing to bad at the moment if yr son needs to no any thing i will be happy to help iv all so sent a message to some one else on the board that is looking for his dad family saying his father is a lawrence Diffin with brothers jack,david wich is my dad i no my dad had 2 children from his first mariage to a florenc bernard there names are pauline and joesphe pauline was born in 1937 and joe was born 1947 and he is still liveing iv never met them but i would like to find them my dad also had a sister margreat,brother richard i never even new he had lol he never spoke of them and jack is real name is John diffin if yr son could help in any way or if yr from the same line as me that would be great ,The post was old 2001 last time he was on was 6months ago he uses Getitfor who put the post on i do hope he replys ,

Re: Diffin Ancestry

jonny697 — 2010-05-18 21:38:05Z

Dear Hazel,
Thanks for your message. My original posting was put on about 6 years ago. My son, Mark Diffin, is a bit more grown up now, so I am leaving it to him to follow the 'Diffin Trail' if he wishes. I will pass on your message and he can contact you if he's interested.
Thanks for responding - if you have any questions concerning his family, please just write to me and I will pass that on, no problem.
Regards, Jonny
Jonny Krause
Foulden,
Berwickshire,
Scotland.

Re: Diffin Ancestry

hazeldiffin1625 — 2010-05-16 18:23:18Z

Hi my DIFFIN family were in scottland at grenock dont no if its from the same line thou

Re: Diffin Ancestry

hazeldiffin1625 — 2010-05-16 18:22:17Z

Hi my father was from ireland lawrence DIFFIN ,my grandad was in scottland my granmother was Matillda Diffin,granfather Lawrence F Diffin,my dad had brothers David,Jack,Richard,sister Margaret,jack was John B Diffin but jack was his tage name granmother was matilda KERR HER FATHER was David KERR There are liveing son of David i can go back more the dates of birth for thesDiffin,s range from 1878,1880,1901,1903,1904,1908 1910,they other family members wot iv not put down go back to the 1700,and 1800 if i can help in any way or u think u could be from the same line i be happy to help.

Re: Obit/Death notice help needed

cjlhp8 — 2010-05-15 22:36:11Z

David B Duval was my husbands cousin 2x removed. I would like all info that is in the death notice/obit.
Thanks

Re: Obit/Death notice help needed

thomasker2 — 2010-05-14 16:40:46Z

I'm not related.

WHAT specific info do you hope to obtain from the obit.? ? ?

Re: search for Diffin ancestry

hazeldiffin1625 — 2010-05-14 09:40:56Z

Hello i Think i am who yr looking for my dad lawrence born belfast had brothers,Jack and David if yr the right person iv been looking for u to i look for wards to hereing from u .i hope u get this message