Montmorency - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: William and Henry Dice, Hillman 1949

epurkiss — 2013-06-04 05:32:59Z

When was the date of this newspaper? I am assuming it is the Montmorency County newspaper that is printed once a week in 1949.

Re: Krakow Twp - where is it?

epurkiss — 2013-06-04 05:18:50Z

I'm not positive, but it seems like about a year ago I came across this Twp name and found the answer in the 1904, I believe, Atlas showing Alpena, Montmorency, and Presque Isle counties. In the introduction it stated the Krakow Twp was changed to Vienna Twp. I may be wrong but it seems to me that was correct.

Re: Cemetery listings

epurkiss — 2013-06-04 05:05:23Z

You might also try Find-a-Grave on the internet. It is free. Also use your address on the search engine and put in Lewiston Cemetery (there will be two both considered Lewiston). I and some friends are taking pictures of all the markers. We are not yet finished.

Re: Altanta High School, 1927

epurkiss — 2013-06-04 04:51:32Z

I would very much like to have a copy sent to me if you are willing. I could place a copy in the local historical societies as well as our genealogical room at the local library. I am president of our local genealogical society. Ella Purkiss

Re: Cemetery Question

epurkiss — 2013-06-04 04:23:45Z

Hillman Cemetery is called Hillman-Rust Cemetery and is north of Hillman, MI. Across the street is St Augustine Catholic Cemetery. Some of these graves are at the site of Find-a-Grave on the internet. Some are information is found by putting in the name of cemetery in the address portion of your search engine. I and a group of friends are planning to publish books containing pictures of all the markers in both cemeteries later this year with info on where obituaries, death records, etc can be located. Hope this helps you

Re: GARRETT

madicyn — 2013-05-25 19:25:36Z

George Garrett and Catherine Almira Wesley.

Re: HOWARD NORTHRUP

TaraLingerfelt — 2013-04-19 12:41:56Z

Howard is my grandfather... :) He was married to a lady named Alice and they were divorced, but had children together. Their names are Pauline and Evalynn. He then married my grandmother Anna Marie Riegle, born Oct 5 1936. They had 4 children named Ethel, Penny, Carol and Harold. Ethel is my mother. ~Tara

Re: BROWN, William Harold and Pearl C OSTEN

mmttleffert1 — 2013-01-31 00:21:11Z

Thank You!

Willian Harold was born in Ohio in 1901 (he may have put canada though... long family drama... lol)

Pearl C was Born in Michigan in 1907

Thank you again!

Re: BROWN, William Harold and Pearl C OSTEN

thomasker2 — 2013-01-30 22:06:33Z

I’m not related to any member of this family.

1940 is the last available census at this time.

Need DOB's + birthplaces for William Harold Brown and Pearl C. Osten

Webb, Iva Nee Howard

warren18 — 2013-01-29 22:06:31Z

Iva Webb
January 24, 2013
The Alpena News
WEBB, Iva Charlotte, 88 of Hillman died Jan. 21, 2013.

She is survived by her four children. Gene (Nancy) Schroeder of Atlanta, Glenna (Edward) Spencer, Josephine (Craig) Dohning of Cass City, and Pamela (Robert) Muxlow of Hillman; 12 grandchildren; 27 great-grandchildren; sister, Dorothy Beals of Burton; and numerous nieces and nephews.

Funeral services will be held at 11a.m. on Saturday, Jan. 26, 2013, at the Hillman Free Methodist Church, Hillman, Pastor Robert Coen officiating. Visitation will take place on Friday, Jan. 25, 2013, at the Hillman Free Methodist Church from 4-7 p.m. and again on Saturday morning from 10 a.m. until time of service. Interment will take place at Fairview Cemetery, Fairview in the spring. Arrangements were entrusted to the Green Funeral Home.

Obit Green Funeral Home
Iva Webb
Mrs. Iva Charlotte Webb, 88 of Hillman went to be with the Lord on January 21, 2013. She was born on December 17, 1924 to Asahel and Myrtle (Rymer) Howard in Coline, Michigan. She grew up at McCollum Lake near Curran, Michigan and attended school in Fairview. She married Kenneth E. Schroeder in 1945 and moved to the thumb area of Michigan after World War II. She and Kenneth had two children; Gene (Nancy) Schroeder of Atlanta; and Glenna (Edward) Spencer of Hillman.

She began her working career with Verizon in Cass City, Michigan as a "trouble operator" when it was still General Telephone, moving with her work to Davison, Michigan as things became more computerized. After the death of her husband Kenneth in 1967, she married Ronald L. Webb in 1969. She gained two daughters in that marriage; Josephine (Craig) Dohning of Cass City; and Pamela (Robert) Muxlow of Hillman. She considered them her own. During her marriage to Ronald, she retired and enjoyed traveling summers and spending winters in Florida. After his death in 1989, she continued his custom by driving herself to Florida for the winter until she reached the age of 81. In 1996, Iva moved to the Hillman area and became a faithful member of the Hillman Free Methodist Church. Iva was an avid gardener, reader, quilter, and seamstress. She enjoyed knitting and crocheting, as well as jigsaw, crossword puzzles, and card and board games.

She is survived by her four children; 12 grandchildren; 27 great-grandchildren; sister, Dorothy Beals of Burton; numerous nieces and nephews; and many friends. She was preceded in death by her parents, Asahel and Myrtle Howard; first husband, Kenneth Schroeder; second husband, Ronald Webb; sisters, Leola Mazany; Thelma Coon; Edith Des Jardins; Ruth Stahl; Margrete Coon; brother, Asahel "Bud" Howard; son-in-law, Edward Spencer; and great-grandson, Gabriel David Spencer.

Funeral services for Mrs. Webb will be held at 11:00AM on Saturday, January 26, 2013 at the Hillman Free Methodist Church, Hillman, MI, Pastor Robert Coen officiating. Visitation will take place on Friday, January 25, 2013 at the Hillman Free Methodist Church from 4-7 PM and again on Saturday morning from 10:00 AM until time of service. Interment will take place at Fairview Cemetery, Fairview, MI beside her first husband, Kenneth in the Spring.

Re: William Sherman and Ella McClain (ADOPTION)

sharlenekent — 2012-11-22 04:34:09Z

I don't have anything to add to your query, but Ella Shavalier appears to be the daughter of my great aunt, Mary Shavalier, whose mother, Mary Mabie, various spellings, was my great grandmother, Mary Elizabeth Mabie, who married my great grandfather, Jacob Rice, originally from Wuerttemburg, Germany, immigrating in 1850, destination unknown, but appears in 1870 married to a girl from Wheatfield, Niagara Co., NY, with 4 or 5 children on the 1870 census of Vernon, Shiawasee Co., MI, after which she takes the two girls and smallest child, born in 1869, and leaves Jacob. Daughter, Mary Shavalier's death certificate verifies lineage as does her brother, Ed D..
Jacob Rice entered the Civil War in 1860's in Wheatfield, NY. Children all seem to be born along the east coast of Michigan with the last, Ed D. born in Corunna, and dying there. Jacob dies at his son, Otto's home, who happens to be by great grandfather. We loose Jacob in the 1880 census.
His occupation was a hoopmaker. In 1900, Jacob claims he is a widower. We don't know where Mary Elizabeth Mabie Rice went to all those years. Ella seems to be the grandaughter of Jacob and Mary.
I don't know if this gives you any pieces of your puzzle but good luck, maybe through this we will both find puzzle pieces.
s.

Re: Logging Era of Montmorency County

bjburns — 2012-09-26 16:03:21Z

Every week on Wednesday's the "Montmorency County Tribune" comes out and it has a posting every week of different things of "A Glimpse of Montmorency County's Past:" In their paper on Aug. 29, 2012 was a nice photo of 2 teams of horse and oxen used for logging. The photo was furnished by the Historical Society (Mrs. G. Vincent). You should contact the Historical Society or even the paper and they would get you in touch with the Society. Check out the www.MONTMORENCYTRIBUNE.com site also you may find some information on the county there also. OR call the Tribune at (989) 785-4214.

Re: Hillman Rust Montmorency Allens Manns Gohls

ebruhl47 — 2012-08-13 19:56:42Z

Hi, My name is Elaine and I am interested in any information I can find about the Gohl family. My e-mail address is ebruhl@jvanders.com. Looking forward to hearing from you.

Re: Hillman Rust Montmorency Allens Manns Gohls

ebruhl47 — 2012-08-13 18:24:58Z

Hi, My name is Elaine and I am engaged to John W. Gohl. We are looking for his family graves. Do you know anything about John H. Gohl, Frederick Gohl, Mary Ann Tyrell (Terrell) Glohl-not sure of spelling, Ethel Gohl, Augustus Frederick Gohl, Catherine Taylor Gohl? We would like to find the graves and any information we can. You can reach me at ebruhl@jvanders.com.

BROWN, William Harold and Pearl C OSTEN

mmttleffert1 — 2012-05-20 21:29:11Z

Good Afternoon,

I've recently rebegan (if thats a word)my genealogy research, I know my grandparents William Harold Brown (almost always went by Harold) and Pearl C. Osten owned a General Store in Lewiston. It was called BROWNS - The Complete Food Market (I'm staring at a pencil right now... :O) Does anyone have any pictures or information on them? I'm trying to figure out WHEN they moved to Lewiston, I know they moved to Royal Oak about 1944 and kept the store there in Lewiston.

Thank you for any help you can give...

Re: Death help-1910 to 1923

SCIGSC — 2011-10-31 07:57:14Z

License Date: 25 Nov 1922
Marriage Place: Wayne, Michigan
Groom - Fred Loble, 50 years, b. 1872 in England
Bride - Alice M. Esseltine, 46 years, b. 1876 in Canada
Groom's parents are Joseph and Bertha
Bride's parents are George and Lathera Wilson
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Marriage Date: 13 Mar 1923
Marriage Place: Trenton, Wayne, Michigan
Groom - Fred Loble, 50 years, b. 1873 in England
Bride - Alice M. Esseltine, 46 years, b. 1877 in Canada
Groom's parents are Joseph and Bertha
Bride's parents are George and Lathera Wilson
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I hope this information will be helpful to your information.

Susan
Saginaw, Michigan

Re: Herbert L Cole Hillman, Montmorency County, MI

SCIGSC — 2011-09-28 16:07:58Z

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1900 Federal Census
Michigan > Saint Clair > Columbus > District 81 > 11
Orrin Cole 57 Feb 1843 Michigan Vermont NewYork
Martha Cole 46 Apr 1854 Canada Canada Canada
Maud Cole 19 Feb 1881 Michigan Michigan Canada
Herbert Cole 12 Jan 1888 Michigan Michigan Canada
Record shows Orrin and Martha have been married for 26 years
Record shows Martha is the mother of 2 kids with 2 kids living
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1910 Federal Census
Michigan > Saint Clair > St Clair > District 0124 > 8
Orren Cole 68
Martha Cole 57
Herbert Cole 22
Record shows Orrin and Martha have been married for 37 years
Record shows Martha is the mother of 6 kids with 4 kids living
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1918 draft
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1930 Federal Census
Michigan > Alpena > Wellington > District 15 > 2
Herbert L Cole 42
Oram N Cole 87
Martha Cole 77
Orville G Frank 20 Nephew
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Social Security Death Index
Herbert Cole
SSN: 367-38-5403
Last Residence:
49746 Hillman, Montmorency, Michigan
Born: 18 Jan 1888
Died: Apr 1977
SSN: Michigan (1955)

Re: kleins

malkklein3101 — 2011-09-12 13:14:51Z

Yes do you know if the church reference numbers have been verified? If so does anyone have a copy of them?

Re: kleins

Sheelk98 — 2011-09-12 01:13:23Z

There definitely is a Klein Settlement and it is still alive and well. My husband, Brian and I have lived in it for 39 years. What can I help you with?

Re: Looking for death about 1944-46 Baby Peter Remilong

SCIGSC — 2011-08-29 22:50:10Z

You can order the death cert from the county clerks office.

You can try contacting the local public library.
The reference or genealogy department might have a death index for the county
or an obit index from the local newspaper.

You could also try contacting the Montmorency genealogy society.
They may have volunteers who would be willing to help you with this research.

Re: Looking for death about 1944-46 Baby Peter Remilong

thomasker2 — 2011-08-21 14:46:12Z

There are no online FREE death records for that time period.

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Re: Death help-1910 to 1923

SCIGSC — 2011-08-21 01:12:39Z

If Alice died between 1910 and 1925, she will not be in the SSDI.

SSDI starts about 1966.

Re: kleins

malkklein3101 — 2011-07-15 17:45:35Z

HI, I'm Michael Klein and I'm a decedent of Daniel thru his son Charles,then Ernest Charles Sr., Ernest Charles Jr., Ive haven't been to Michigan in over 17 years. Been looking for some sign of the family and found you all here. To let you know I'm currently stationed in GERMANY with the U.S. Army. I can and will look for any church documents that have been collected to verify them and too see if I can find anything further past Phillip Peter Klein. Please contact me with any and all information you may have.

Looking for death about 1944-46 Baby Peter Remilong

Sheufelt — 2011-05-26 18:21:52Z

Im looking for the death or Burial of a baby boy

Peter Remilong.

I cant be sure of the exact year mid- 40's.

They lived in Hillman.

thanks
christine

Re: Death Record

rlm6789 — 2011-05-13 20:47:17Z

Vincenta married Andrew Sipper in 1891 according to my records... so it makes sense that 1889/9 could be the time period of his death.. Would he have died in Michigan, and might there be an obit somewhere?

FYI..Steve Sipper was my wifes father.

Richard Morgan

Logging Era of Montmorency County

dwepurkiss — 2011-03-25 13:10:25Z

Do you have information about ancestors who have worked in the logging industry in Montmorency County? Which camps did they work in? Where did they work? When? Did their families come with them? Did they attend schools there? We are researching the history of the people associated with the history of Montmorency County, help us make it complete. Proceeds will go to local libraries and local historical societies.

Railroads of Montmorency County

dwepurkiss — 2011-03-25 13:07:32Z

Did you or your ancestors work for the railroads in Montmorency County or have stories of the early railroads of Montmorency County? We are interested.

CCC workers of Montmorency County

dwepurkiss — 2011-03-25 13:05:54Z

Do you have relatives or did you work with the CCC in Montmorency County or a surrounding county while living in Montmorency County? We would be interested to know to include this information in an upcoming book about the residents of Montmorency County. Proceeds will be donated to the local libraries and historical societies.

Military records of Montmorency County

dwepurkiss — 2011-03-25 13:03:31Z

My group is writing a history of the people of Montmorency county. We are currently collecting information on any people who served in any branch of the military in any time period whom were associated with Montmorency County (lived there, married there, died there, buried there, etc). Please contact us, we are very interested to include you or your ancestors or family in our coming book(s). Proceeds from the books will be donated to the local libraries and historical societies.

Re: Death help-1910 to 1923

dwepurkiss — 2011-03-25 12:56:08Z

You may wish to try www.seekingmichigan.org as a site for a death certificate using her name as it was at death.

Re: William Sherman and Ella McClain (ADOPTION)

thomasker2 — 2011-03-17 19:27:11Z

I’m not related to any member of this family.

1930 is the last available census at this time.

1920 -
Name: Ella Mclain
Home in 1920: Hillman, Montmorency, Michigan
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Birthplace: Canada
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Mclain
Father's Birth Place: Canada
Mother's Birth Place: Canada
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Year of immigration: 1890
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes

William Mclain 44, MI - no occ
Ella Mclain 35, Fr. Canada - does laundry
John Mclain 18, MI
George Mclain 16, MI
Marry Mclain 13, MI
Blanch Mclain 10, MI
Linas Mclain 5, MI

1930 -
Name: William Mcclain
Home in 1930: Hillman, Montmorency, Michigan
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Birthplace: Michigan
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Ella Mcclain
Race: White
Occupation: general foreman
Age at first marriage: 20
Parents' birthplace: MI/MI

William Mcclain 58, MI
Ella Mcclain 48, Fr. Canada - Age at first marriage: 17
Parents' birthplace: Fr. Canada/MI
Lymon Mcclain 18, MI
Emerald Baus 4 7/12,MI = g/son

death record -
Name: Lyman Henry Mcclain
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 11 Sep 1955
Burial Place: Hillman, Michigan
Death Date: 09 Sep 1955
Death Place: Alpena, Alpena, Michigan
Age: 43
Birth Date: 23 Jan 1912
Birthplace: Hillman, Michigan
Occupation: Laborer
Race: White
Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: William Mcclain
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Ella Shavlier
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B00361-9
System Origin: Michigan-EASy
Source Film Number: 2020780
Reference Number: cn129
Collection: Michigan Deaths and Burials, 1800-1995

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Lookup for Hillman School yearbooks 1940's

Sheufelt — 2011-03-17 18:26:43Z

My Grandmother attended
Hillman School periodcally from
4th -9th grade
1942-1946

I am interested in year book pictures for her on these years for a resonable fee.

I dont know if they have yearbooks, would like to find out.

I have no pictures of her as a child.

also her siblings
Leo Remilong
Rose Remilong

Thanks
Christine

Re: Bert Favel

francesbruske — 2010-06-28 23:02:52Z

Hi it's me again because I asked you for the names of the parents of the 7 boys and really I meant to ask if you had any dates on the parents of the boys. Also I would like to ask if Bert was the full name of your grandfather?

Re: Bert Favel

francesbruske — 2010-06-28 22:34:25Z

Hi I am sorry I don.t have answers for what you are looking for, But I see that you mentioned that Burt and Catherine had 7 boys. I have been looking for the 7 boys for a long time now. I was wondering if you knew the 7 boys names and who their parents were. I would be truely greatful to you if you could and would share this information with me. Thank you.

Re: Searching for grandfather Carmen (?) Shephard, Shepard, Shepherd

hark_hutter — 2010-06-20 01:27:20Z

Anna had 1 child, Viola Evelyn, born in Hillman, Montmorency, Michigan August 16, 1922. Viola said her father was Carmen Shepherd but he was killed in a lumber/woodsman accident. Anna Brown was born in Kentucky in 1905 to Harvey Brown and Cynthia Shepherd Brown. After Carmen was killed, Viola went to live with her grandparents Harvey and Cynthia Brown and took the last name of Brown when she started school. Anna married David Brown (no relation) and had several more children and died in 1934 in Flint, Michigan. Viola died in 1950 in Detroit, Michigan.

Re: Searching for grandfather Carmen (?) Shephard, Shepard, Shepherd

SCIGSC — 2010-06-19 14:44:30Z

Did Anna Brown have children with this man?

Who were Anna's parents?

What was Anna's date of birth?

Re: Searching for grandfather Carmen (?) Shephard, Shepard, Shepherd

thomasker2 — 2010-06-18 20:59:48Z

I'm not related.

NEED DOB + birth place for Anna Brown & Carmen.

Re: kleins

dklein1959 — 2010-06-18 19:16:26Z

My grand father was Allen Klein, eldest son of Philip Klein. A few years ago the magazine from Mio Michigan, formerly the North Wodos Call, did a series of extensive atricles on the Klein's of Rust Township in Montmorecy County. You may be able to find reprinted information in there. I believe they came out in 2001-2003 time frame. Has some great pictures too. I always wondered what happened to Nicholas Klein. It is my understanding he moved back to Ontario, Canada, near Waterloo. The Richard Klein family did a lot of extensive research as did cousin Gladys Klein (Lyle's wife). Both numbers may be found in the Atlanta phone directory.

William Sherman and Ella McClain (ADOPTION)

lynn12976 — 2010-04-27 22:10:46Z

I am in desperate need of help. My grandfather was given up by his biological parents on December 12, 1918 to the Midwife that helped.

The story goes, that William Sherman McClain (1874 - 1939) and Ella Shavalier McClain (1883 - 1930) were very poor and already had a number of children.

John H McClain
George Lewis McClain
George McClain
Mary McClain
Blanch McClain
Lyman H McClain

My grandfathers adopted mother was the midwife (Rachel Nutter) for Ella Shavalier McClain. If anyone has heard stories from the above brothers or sisters, please message me or email at lynn12976@gmail.com. I really want to find my grandfather's biological family. He did make a trek up to Michigan around 1955 - 1957 and possibly did meet a sibling. I have photos of my grandfather. My uncle did do a DNA test on the first 12 markers (hope to do the 37 and 67 soon)on Family Tree DNA. One of the photos might be one of the above siblings mentioned.

If there are any male descendants of the above siblings, any info will help.

Any information will greatly be appreciated.

Sincerely,

Linda M. Thompson

Re: Descendants of John P. and Carrie Frances (McMurphy) Stephens

cosgrovej1208 — 2010-03-10 04:14:35Z

Try the Tuttle link in previous message- owner Sharon Bacon as I found the info from her tree.

Good Luck,
Joanne

Re: Descendants of John P. and Carrie Frances (McMurphy) Stephens

MHWorkman — 2010-03-09 21:30:15Z

Hello,

Yes, this helps a great deal. Thank you very much for pointing out these sources. Since 2008 I had found the death of John P. Stevens/Stephens, Frances’ first husband, in 1914 in Ann Arbor. I had also found her remarriage in 1915 to William J. Lucas and this couple in the 1920 census. I did not notice however Daniel D. and James H. listed as “Smiths” in the next household.

Would you know how to contact any of the descendants of Daniel D. or James H. Stevens/Smith?

Thanks again,
Marjean

Re: Descendants of John P. and Carrie Frances (McMurphy) Stephens

cosgrovej1208 — 2010-03-08 23:23:21Z

My gg grandmother is Mary P McMurphy, daughter of Martha Learn, married to James D (Duncan) McMurphy. Frances McMurphy is her sister.
Saw your post, then went to a leaf on Frances in tree and found matching Tuttle family tree showing Frances' marriages. see http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/13752561/family?fpid=5196879

Have researched and found that
Daniel D Stevens Smith - 1920 Federal Census Shows Adopted Son with New name of Smith Information from Tuttle Family Tree http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/3693737/person/-1678428278?st...
Hope this helps,
Joanne Cosgrove

Searching for grandfather Carmen (?) Shephard, Shepard, Shepherd

hark_hutter — 2010-01-07 05:11:12Z

I am seeking information about a "woodsman" Carmen (?) Shepard, or Shephard or Shepherd or any variation, that married my grandmother, Anna Brown about 1920 or 1921, worked in or near Hillman, Montmorency, Michigan and was killed in a lumber accident sometime before 1924.

Boadway's in Lewiston

StevenORourke45 — 2009-12-22 19:23:59Z

I'm related to them and was just wondering if anyone knew anything on them? as Ive been curious about my family history.

Re: Help for a possible dead end - UPDATE

jgalpin48428 — 2009-09-01 18:45:58Z

One other thought...My moms maiden name is McKenzie. I was having a taught time...saw some of her info spelled MacKenzie....someone told me that way back when that could have been how it was spelled and that they were interchangable.
Jennifer G.

Re: Help for a possible dead end - UPDATE

cormack196 — 2009-09-01 18:38:41Z

I posted this at another genealogy website;

Well, I called the county clerk's office and asked for some assistance. The nice lady on the phone said that they really didn't do anything over the phone, but that I should fill out a form on their website. It would cost $5 for the search and $10 if I wanted a copy. If they didn't find one, she said that I would get $10 back. As we both said, that is a lot better deal than going through the State of Michigan (they want $26 with NO chance of a refund, full or partial).

>There are 2 trees shown on Ancestry with his name--maybe one is yours??? It's a private tree. The other states h died Oct 1897 in Vienna Twnshp.

One of them is my tree and the other tree belongs to another cousin that got their information from me. Dead end there.

I'll give a shot with mailing $15+postage to the county clerk's office. At least if I strike out that way, I'll get $10 back.

Re: Help for a possible dead end

jgalpin48428 — 2009-08-30 03:43:31Z

Montmorency's website states they have death certifs from 1881. Clerks phone number is 989-785-8022. Copies-$8.00.

Contact RAOGK (Random Acts of Geneologial Kindness) They have a website. I believe the person is Barb Burns that will do look ups in Montmorency County.

Montmorency Historical Society in Hillman--President is Florence Tripp--989-742-4218.

There are 2 trees shown on Ancestry with his name--maybe one is yours??? It's a private tree. The other states h died Oct 1897 in Vienna Twnshp.

A note about the census------I have found some of my relatives listed as "widow, widower". The TRUTH is that they were not a widow (er) at all, but were actually divorced. Their "deceased spouse" was actually alive and well and listed on the same census!!!!!!! Come to think of it, I don't recall seeing "divorced" anywhere on the census.

Hope something here helps you.

Jennifer G.

Re: Help for a possible dead end

cormack196 — 2009-08-30 01:08:25Z

>Try not to blow your money for a certificate that may have never been filed.

Yeah, especially at $26 a pop via the state! As I semi-mentioned in my other post to you, the time of the year might have something to do with it and also the area. Although, they live only 6 miles as the crow flies from the county seat.

>Back in those days, however, local newspapers did report deaths and the dates...

Well, to see those local papers, I think that my best luck would be up there and I am 900 miles south.

>Another place for deaths in that area is: pilot.familysearch.org/

Been there, done that. My luck there wasn't as good as the State of Michigan site.

Thanks for your suggestions.

Re: Help for a possible dead end

cormack196 — 2009-08-30 00:59:55Z

>If they don't have a record, then neither does the state.

I was beginning to think that myself especially after spending half a day or so going through every combination at the State of Michigan website. Also, the time of year might have something to do with the apparent lack of a death certificate. Winters in the northern Michigan can be a real PITA.

I'll give the county clerk a try next week. With the name that I am looking for, they might recognize something.

Re: TRYING TO FIND DEATH OF WILLIAM E. BRYAN I

Myra_Herron — 2009-08-29 21:49:09Z

MUCH APPRECIATED! I keep forgetting to think OUTSIDE the box. Thank you for your help! This fills in many blanks!