I was reading the above post and you mentioned Fred C Gutzmer ofl853 in Germany ws married to w wives, Wilhmina Thrun and Albertina.
My Great Grandfather Adolph Theodore Thrun was born in l839 in Germany and lost his father the day before. When I found his death certificate I found his mother was Wilhmina Thrun. From the history that I have gotten, Adolph was sent to an uncle John thrun who was a buyer of cattle, amber and other things. Adolph became a master shepard and married in l864 to Augusta Linkoenand had three children when he came into Capac St. Clair County Mich, Munssey Township. so is it possible that he sent for his mother Wilhimina Thrun after he got here?