Holly, I don't know if you are still checking in with Ancestry, but I am delighted to read your post. My great-grandmother was Minnie Mannecke Hellmich--sister of Elizabeth Mannecke Winner. We actually were hoping to connect with Florence Hildebrand--your mother?--last summer, only to learn of her passing. I am Kathy Chapell; you can check the Hellmich tree for more info, although I still have much work to do. My grandmother was Minnie's (Wilhemina) daughter, Adela Hellmich Gabriel. My sibs and I are the only descendents of that line. I would love to connect with you.