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    <pubDate>2013-06-19 15:02:00Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: obit lookup</title>
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      <description>You can request the obituary and burial permit from the St Louis Public Library at this webpage: &lt;a href="http://www.slpl.org/slpl/gateways/article240117800.asp" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.slpl.org/slpl/gateways/article240117800.asp&lt;/a&gt; . Once you have the details you can request the obit using the website's "Ask A Librarian", email option. The library used to mail the obits, but I think they now will email it to you.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, you may be interest in viewing the Patrick Wallace death certificate at this webpage: &lt;a href="http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/&lt;/a&gt; .&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;David in Pennsylvania</description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-19 15:02:00Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Obit Lookup Request</title>
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      <description>Thank you.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-18 12:02:27Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Obit Lookup Request</title>
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      <description>You can search the obituary from the St Louis Public Library at this webpage: &lt;a href="http://www.slpl.org/slpl/gateways/article240117800.asp" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.slpl.org/slpl/gateways/article240117800.asp&lt;/a&gt; . Then request the obit using the Ask A Librarian email option.  They used to mail the obits, but now I think they will email it to you.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, you may be interested to see the Death Certificate at this webpage: &lt;a href="http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/&lt;/a&gt; . </description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-18 11:36:46Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Obit Lookup Request</title>
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      <description>Hello,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Would someone please help with a lookup?&lt;br&gt;Charles Patrick Bakersmith, died in STL 5/14/1942.&lt;br&gt;Thank you.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-17 20:06:41Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: John Wesley, James, Chester and Lester Pratte circa 1918-1930</title>
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      <description>I am looking for more information on my grandpa, James Franklin Pratte. My dad had told me to google John Wesley and it brought me to this board! I am at a stand still because I lack anymore information past my grandpas father and mother. Please help if you can. </description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-17 18:54:29Z</pubDate>
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      <title>David W. Tuttle abt 1786 NY - 1819 St. Louis, MO  </title>
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      <description>From Alva Tuttle's book, David's birthdate given as 1786. In 1813 m to Elizabeth [nee Nichols] Hussey (wid. of George Hussey) at the Dutch Reform Church in NY City. From the Annals of St. Louis in its Territorial Days from 1804-1821 by Frederic L. Billion (1888), has Tuttle &amp;amp; Teller: Drugs and Medicines, new brick below Collet's - Feb. 10, 1819 and pg 154 (Business Notices) has David W. Tuttle: removed to No. 3, Chouteau's row - July 24, 1819. From the Barber Collection of New York Death Newspaper Extracts, 1801-1890, on page 18, gives St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 24, 1819. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;His daughter, Phebe Georgina, marries in NY City in 1838.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Trying to find out what happened to David W. and possibly his parent's name. What happened to Elizabeth (David's wife) and also the correct date of Phebe Georgina who gives in Census information being born in 1819 in Missouri.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any and all information and also nudges in the right direction would be appreciated.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Vicki S. Tesnar&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="mailto://vstesnar@charter.net"&gt;vstesnar@charter.net&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-15 17:21:48Z</pubDate>
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      <title>David W. Tuttle abt 1786 NY - 1819 St. Louis, MO</title>
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      <description>From Alva Tuttle's book, David's birthdate given as 1786. In 1813 m to Elizabeth [nee Nichols] Hussey (wid. of George Hussey) at the Dutch Reform Church in NY City.  From the Annals of St. Louis in its Territorial Days from 1804-1821 by Frederic L. Billion (1888), has Tuttle &amp;amp; Teller: Drugs and Medicines, new brick below Collet's - Feb. 10, 1819 and pg 154 (Business Notices) has David W. Tuttle: removed to No. 3, Chouteau's row - July 24, 1819.  From the Barber Collection of New York Death Newspaper Extracts, 1801-1890, on page 18, gives St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 24, 1819. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;His daughter, Phebe Georgina, marries in NY City in 1838.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Trying to find out what happened to David W. and possibly his parent's name.  What happened to Elizabeth (David's wife) and also the correct date of Phebe Georgina who gives in Census information being born in 1819 in Missouri.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any and all information and also nudges in the right direction would be appreciated.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Vicki S. Tesnar&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="mailto://vstesnar@charter.net"&gt;vstesnar@charter.net&lt;/a&gt; </description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-15 17:11:27Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Obituary Assistance, Please</title>
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      <description>Greetings,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am interested in knowing if an obituary is available for John Earl Williams (January 1, 1887-June 18, 1934). Rev. Williams was a Black pastor who was born and raised in St. Louis but who died in an automobile accident in New Jersey. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;While a local obituary is available in New Jersey, I am wondering if the St. Louis paper carried any obituary for him. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any assistance you can provide is appreciated.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cristoir at optonline dot net&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-14 20:44:08Z</pubDate>
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      <title>obit lookup</title>
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      <description>Im needing some help looking up an obituary.  It's for a Patrick Wallace (middle name could be Francis).  He died in St. Louis on 6/18/1928.  His wife Mary Elizabeth Wallace preceded him in death.  He also had three sisters Margaret, Loretta and Mamie.  Any help would be great.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jillean Wallace</description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-14 01:42:43Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: looking for a little help</title>
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      <description>Oh, good, glad it helps!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not much is turning up on the two named Elbert and Harry though. Nothing that turned up after the 1930 census for either of them, at least that I could find.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Were you able to find William's parents' names? I did find him in the earlier 1900 and 1910 census living with James T. Johnson born about 1850 in Kentucky and Alice E. Johnson born about 1852 in Illinois.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;James' father was born in Maryland and mother in Kentucky. Alice's parents were both born in Illinois according to the 1910 census. Alice was widowed by 1920. She was living with William that year, and as late as 1925 in the Kansas state census, but I couldn't locate her after 1925. In 1930, William was with John and his wife Lily.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mary&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-13 22:34:52Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: looking for a little help</title>
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      <description>YES! These are the people I am seeking. I am sorry, have been out of town and surely out of commission for a week or so. I am trying to get back on track in search of this family now-thank you</description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-13 21:06:58Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: looking for a little help</title>
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      <description>Are these the same people you're looking for?  &lt;br&gt;In 1920, Elbert and Harry were teenagers living with their parents, John and Lily.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But by 1930, Will T. Johnson was living with his brother John.&lt;br&gt;So Elbert and Harry were the sons of John, and were William's nephews. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But they may have been named after brothers in St. Louis (haven't gotten that far yet in looking).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let me know if these are the right people, and I'll see if anything turns up later.&lt;br&gt;======&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1920 United States Federal Census about Elbert J Johnson&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Name:	Elbert J Johnson&lt;br&gt;Age:	17&lt;br&gt;Birth Year:	abt 1903&lt;br&gt;Birthplace:	Kansas&lt;br&gt;Home in 1920:	Stafford, Stafford, Kansas&lt;br&gt;Race:	White&lt;br&gt;Gender:	Male&lt;br&gt;Relation to Head of House:	Son&lt;br&gt;Marital Status:	Single&lt;br&gt;Father's Name:	John M Johnson&lt;br&gt;Father's Birthplace:	Indiana&lt;br&gt;Mother's Name:	Lilly M Johnson&lt;br&gt;Mother's Birthplace:	Illinois&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Household Members:	&lt;br&gt;Name	Age&lt;br&gt;John M Johnson	47&lt;br&gt;Lilly M Johnson	43&lt;br&gt;Elbert J Johnson	17&lt;br&gt;Harry L Johnson	16&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1930 United States Federal Census about Will T Johnson&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Name:	Will T Johnson&lt;br&gt;Gender:	Male&lt;br&gt;Birth Year:	abt 1881&lt;br&gt;Birthplace:	Kansas&lt;br&gt;Race:	White&lt;br&gt;Home in 1930:	Stafford, Stafford, Kansas&lt;br&gt;View Map&lt;br&gt;Marital Status:	Single&lt;br&gt;Relation to Head of House:	Brother&lt;br&gt;Father's Birthplace:	Indiana&lt;br&gt;Mother's Birthplace:	Indiana&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Household Members:	&lt;br&gt;Name	Age&lt;br&gt;John M Johnson	 57&lt;br&gt;Lillie M Johnson	53&lt;br&gt;Will T Johnson	49&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-09 15:50:21Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: looking for a little help</title>
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      <description>Does the obit give his parents names? Any sisters?  What do you know about Clifford?</description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-09 02:37:42Z</pubDate>
      <author>PYount</author>
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      <title>Re: Taub</title>
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      <description>I have Perlmutter ancestors that came from the same area, and settled in St. Louis.  This was in the late 1860s.  Elias Wolf was my great-great-great grandfather, and he had a brother named jacob.  They were both shoemakers.  Do you have any information about your relatives in Europe (before they came to the U.S.)?  Perhaps there is some connection.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Arthur Siegel</description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-06 13:02:43Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Eugene E Lammay</title>
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      <description>Thank you so much for your help.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-05 14:43:09Z</pubDate>
      <author>Margie856</author>
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      <title>Re: Eugene E Lammay</title>
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      <description>I’m not related to any member of this family. &lt;br&gt;1940 is the last available census at this time. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1920 -&lt;br&gt;Name:	Katherin Laminay&lt;br&gt;[Katherine Jammay] &lt;br&gt;[Katheria Lammay] &lt;br&gt;Age:	59&lt;br&gt;Birth Year:	abt 1861&lt;br&gt;Birthplace:	Pennsylvania&lt;br&gt;Home in 1920:	Pittsburgh Ward 10, Allegheny, Pennsylvania&lt;br&gt;Race:	White&lt;br&gt;Relation to Head of House:	Head&lt;br&gt;Marital Status:	Married&lt;br&gt;Father's Birthplace:	Switzerland&lt;br&gt;Mother's Birthplace:	Switzerland&lt;br&gt;Home Owned:	Rent&lt;br&gt;Able to Read:	Yes&lt;br&gt;Able to Write:	Yes&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Katherin Laminay 59, PA - church janitor&lt;br&gt;Fern Laminay 18, PA&lt;br&gt;Raymond Orth 23, PA - s/inlaw&lt;br&gt;Maria Orth 24, PA - &lt;br&gt;Robert Orth 1, PA&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cem. record -&lt;br&gt;Katherine Marie Stauffer Lammay &lt;br&gt;Birth:  Aug. 16, 1860&lt;br&gt;Brackenridge&lt;br&gt;Allegheny County&lt;br&gt;Pennsylvania, USA &lt;br&gt;Death:  Oct. 30, 1926&lt;br&gt;Pittsburgh&lt;br&gt;Allegheny County&lt;br&gt;Pennsylvania, USA &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Husband:&lt;br&gt;Eugene Ellsworth Lammay 1861 - ?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Other Children:&lt;br&gt;Lydia Evans&lt;br&gt;Ida Roxanne Gruber 1884-1966&lt;br&gt;John Lammay &lt;br&gt;Henrietta Schoenman 1893-1985&lt;br&gt;Jean Fritsch  &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Family links: &lt;br&gt; Parents:&lt;br&gt;  Nicklas Stauffer (1814 - 1889)&lt;br&gt;  Annie Stauffer (1815 - 1896)&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Children:&lt;br&gt;  Lizzie Lammay (____ - 1897)*&lt;br&gt;  Joseph Leroy Lammay (1881 - 1910)&lt;br&gt;  Katherine Lammay (1882 - 1907)&lt;br&gt;  Anna May Lammay Gruber (1882 - 1940)*&lt;br&gt;  Marie Barbara Lammay Orth (1895 - 1986)&lt;br&gt;  Fern Roselyn Lammay Schwechendieck (1901 - 1975)&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Burial:&lt;br&gt;Mount Royal Cemetery &lt;br&gt;Glenshaw&lt;br&gt;Allegheny County&lt;br&gt;Pennsylvania, USA&lt;br&gt;Plot: Northland Section 7 Lot 206 &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Eugene may have simply abandoned his family OR was killed as a result of a RR accident.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-04 14:12:29Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Eugene E Lammay</title>
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      <description>I did not find him in the census in St. Louis.  I found him listed in a city directory in 1905.  He was listed as Eugene E.Lammay.  He was from Alleghey county PA and is on the 1900 and 1910 census in Pittsburgh, PA.  He has a history of coming and going from his family in Pittsburgh.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-04 13:35:26Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Eugene E Lammay</title>
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      <description>What is the name he is listed as and in what census year??</description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-03 16:16:20Z</pubDate>
      <author>thomasker2</author>
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      <title>Re: Obit Lookup!</title>
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      <description>Thank you sooo much for this info. Because I knew nothing about my cousin.THanks again.I am in Shelby,Tennessee if you ever need help with this county.Have a blessed day.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-02 21:56:28Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Obit Lookup!</title>
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      <description>Didn't find the obit but he is buried at Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery in St Louis County.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Birth:  Aug. 31, 1954 &lt;br&gt;Death:  Jan. 21, 2010 &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Inscription:&lt;br&gt;US ARMY SP4 VIETNAM&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;  &lt;br&gt;Burial:&lt;br&gt;Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery &lt;br&gt;Saint Louis&lt;br&gt;St. Louis County&lt;br&gt;Missouri, USA&lt;br&gt;Plot: 1GC 0 779 &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Created by: Marvin &amp;amp; Samme Templin&lt;br&gt;Record added: Dec 01, 2011 &lt;br&gt;Find A Grave Memorial# 81294856 &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; </description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-02 20:08:08Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Eugene E Lammay</title>
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      <description>I just came across some info that puts my great grandfather Eugene in St. Louis in 1905 working and/or owning a Saloon.  he most likely was also working as a Brakeman for the RR at this time. I have not found any evidence he had a family there but he has a history of having numerous families in various places.  Just wondering if anyone is familiar with his name from the St. Louis area.  Variations on spelling are LaMay, Lammy, Lammey.  Thanks so much!</description>
      <pubDate>2013-06-01 13:07:50Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Hello- I am researching the family of William T. Johnson born in Mankato , Jewell, Kansas, Dec 22,1880, he died in Stafford Ks in 1938. Apparently he came to Kansas when he was about ten years old, and according to his obit , had three brothers who lived in St Louis. The first two that I am listing- I know nothing about and cant find them. The brothers were Harry Johnson, Elbert Johnson and Clifford Johnson. I have no information on the first two men at all. If anyone finds them, please let me know</description>
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      <title>Re: robert  wheeler was living in fenton  missouri in 1992</title>
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      <description>thank you for searching,,yea its the wrong Robert wheeler,,,thank you for your help</description>
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      <title>Re: robert  wheeler was living in fenton  missouri in 1992</title>
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      <description>This may or may not be your Robert Jr.'s obituary:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wheeler , Robert W. Jr.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;St. Louis Post-Dispatch (MO) - Saturday, May 31, 2003&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;WHEELER, ROBERT W. JR., Mon., May 26, 2003; beloved husband of Catrisse Wheeler; dearest father of Faith and Christian Wheeler; dear son of Cecilia Fernandez and Robert Wheeler Sr.; dear brother of Stephanie, Joseph and Amanda; dear grandson of Ed and the late Mary Ann Clemens and Robert and Shirley Wheeler; dear nephew of Sandy (Rick) Weber, Jerry Wheeler, Chrise Freeman, Janet Michaud, Mary Ann Laut and Michelle Wheeler; dear son-in-law of Melba and Vernon Lunceford; dear cousin, brother-in-law, uncle, and friend. Memorial service at HOFFMEISTER COLONIAL Mortuary, 6464 Chippewa at Watson, Sat., May 31, 10 a.m. Interment Sts. Peter and Paul Cemetery. A trust fund will be set up at Southwest Bank for Robert's children.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Edition: FIVE STAR LIFT&lt;br&gt;Section: CLASSIFIED ADVERTISING&lt;br&gt;Record Number: 0305310043&lt;br&gt;Copyright, 2003, St. Louis Post-Dispatch&lt;br&gt;</description>
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      <title>Re: Obit Lookup! Tom Brown</title>
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      <description>I searched the St. Louis Post-Dispatch for Jan 21, 22 &amp;amp; 23 and did not find one.</description>
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      <title>robert  wheeler was living in fenton  missouri in 1992</title>
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      <description>did Robert wheeler and maybe some of his sons lived there too,sons rick,mike-michael,robert jr. and possible  his grandson  ,shawn,,at  one time Robert married Sylvia was a Houston born,, sylvia was married a few timesif Robert did died there ,was there a obit for him,dates unknown&lt;br&gt;thanks to whoever can help</description>
      <pubDate>2013-05-21 00:15:53Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Dear Kathy,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sure, you can have my email, cousin! You can reach me at &lt;a href="mailto://hollyhilde@gmail.com"&gt;hollyhilde@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="mailto://hollyhilde@aol.com"&gt;hollyhilde@aol.com&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I didn't realize your grandmother Della was the sister of Lillian and Eleanore. I remember Lillian and Eleanore referring to Bob as their nephew, but then I found a census record with Adela living with all the other "A" children, so I thought they were siblings and that Lillian and Eleanore were just calling Bob their nephew.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The house you're talking about, where they lived, was on Highland Avenue. My mother always thought that my grandfather Albert Winner (Lizzie's son) helped buy it for them. They used to stay with Lizzie and Albert for long periods of time at Lizzie's house on Holly Avenue. She had that house built after her husband, Hermann, died in 1901. Hermann was a wealthy businessman, about 35 years older than Lizzie, and he had a Teamsters business and general merchancise store on Blair and Madison. That's where my Grandpa Winner was born. When Hermann died, Lizzie wanted to move to a better neighborhood, for Grandpa's sake, so she had the house on Holly built. She lived there until she died on June 6, 1941. Then Grandpa and my Grandpa moved there and lived there for a number of years. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Like her husband, Lizzie's father was a teamster, and they lived in the same neighborhood. The Manneckes and Hermann were from the Hannover area of Germany. Before he left Germany, Hermann changed his last name to Winner from von Dreele; we don't know why. He left in 1847, and there was a lot of political upheaval in Europe around then.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We lived on Claudine Drive in Spanish Lake beginning in 1959. Lillian and Eleanore must have moved there about 1960 or 1961. They lived in Fontaine Estates, just off Bellefontaine Road. Their house is the second on the right as you turn into the subdivision. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I heard of the rift between the Hellmichs and the dropping of the "l" but I don't know why; I'm not sure my family knew either. But I know of the other feud -- Alvin was a teacher, and when he was about 40 he wanted to marry a French teacher. That is Aldred's mother. Alice became furious, said she and Alvin had made a pact never to marry and to instead take care of their parents, but Alvin got married anyway. Lizzie and Grandpa were the only family members to attend the wedding; Lillian and Eleanore were across the street, hiding behind bushes, watching what was going on! Years ago, my Mother called Aldred and explained their relationship, and Aldred said she had never heard of any other Hellmichs! After that she and Mom talked some more and she sent Mom Christmas letters every years.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Another Alice story -- she had a dog she was crazy about, and when it got sick, she pushed it around in a baby stroller. When it died, she had him laid out in her parlor. Supposedly she said to my grandfather, "Are you going to see the dog, Albert?" He said, "No."&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, a bit about me. I've lived in the Houston area since January 1984. I worked at the St. Louis Globe-Democrat, and when it was folding, I took a newspaper job down here. I'm a technical writer now. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have two brothers -- Brad and Lance Hildebrand, both still in St. Louis. Perhaps you've heard them on the radio. Brad used to be on the original KSLQ and now owns its reincarnation in Washington, Mo. Lance is the traffic reporter for KY98. Brad is the only one with kids -- three boys and a girl, Amanda, who is in law school at St. Louis U.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm eager to hear more from you on email!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Holly Hildebrand</description>
      <pubDate>2013-05-14 15:29:21Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Holly, so fun to hear back so soon!  May I ask for your email address?  It might be easier for us to communicate directly thru email, rather than via this board.  My email is &lt;a href="mailto://chapell6@aol.com"&gt;chapell6@aol.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am heading out soon this morning for work--I currently am the Music Director at Covenant Presbyterian Church in St. Louis--and will have more time to write later today.  Where do you live?  It would be fun to meet at some point.  I am good friends with Aldred Hellmich; we just had lunch this past Thursday.  She'll be delighted to hear that you and I are putting some puzzle pieces together.  She and I have visited St. John's cemetery and found the various headstones.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let me give you a quick update on some names and connections, and then I can do more later.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;William F. Hellmich was married to Wilhemina (Minnie or Minna) Mannecke.  Their children were: Lillian, Adela (Della, my grandmother), Bill (William W.), and Eleanore.  Of those, only my grandmother married.  Her husband was Arthur Gabriel, and their children were Dorris (d.2009), Robert, my dad (Bob, d. 2008), and Rosemary (d. 2007).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Frederick Hellmich was married to Louisa Mannecke.  Their children were Arthur, Alvin, and Alice.  All are deceased.  I can get dates at a later time.  Aldred is Alvin's only child.  She is retired and still living in her parents' house in Webster--a delightful lady, active and interested in everything.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At some point there was a feud/argument of some kind between William and Frederick, and for a time Fred changed the spelling of his name to have only one "l".  We don't know the reason for the division, but Aldred was not even aware that her grandfather (Fred) HAD a brother named William.  William took his own life in 1908; Minna remained a widow until the end of her life.  Bill died in St. Louis of TB in 1933.  The house where he, Lillian, and Eleanore lived is still there, although they sold it and moved to the house near your mother in the late 1950's, or maybe 1960 or '61.  Neither sister married.  Eleanore died in 1972, and Lillian in 1982.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My dad's sisters, Dorris and Rosemary, remained single, as well.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Keith IS my brother; he is the oldest, and I am next; we also have two younger sisters, Karen and Kris--they both live in North Carolina.  Karen is single and is a hospice nurse, and Kris is married to a pastor; she is also a nurse and has three children.  Keith is a surgeon in Springfield, IL, and is married with two kids.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wow, I ended up with quite a long message here.  It will be good to connect with you and share stories, history, etc.  I am curious whether your mother or grandparents ever shared stories with you regarding the family rift, the history of the Hellmich's and Mannecke's settling in St. Louis, their lives before coming to America.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Blessings,&lt;br&gt;Kathy</description>
      <pubDate>2013-05-14 13:33:36Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Lloyd is my Grandfather. he was married to my Grandmother Celia {Riser} Carmack. I also am looking for info on my family history. Carl and Jimmy are my uncles. Their families still live in Texas. I remember when he passed away..I was 19 and hadn't seen him since I was small living in Oklahoma. Contact me and we can share our history.&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2013-05-14 12:58:41Z</pubDate>
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      <description>e mail me your e mail i have some or join us on facebook nannie swanepoel my e mail is &lt;a href="mailto://alettacfbucknall@yahoo.com"&gt;alettacfbucknall@yahoo.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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      <title>Re: Winner/Wenner family in St. Louis</title>
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      <description>Dear Kathy,&lt;br&gt;It's so great to hear from you! Yes, Florence Hildebrand was my mother. Her grandmother was Lizzie Winner, whose real name, it turns out, was Elise. She's listed as Elizabeth in some census records, and Mom's middle name was even Elizabeth, because her parents thought that was Lizzie Winner's real name. Then, later, she told them it wasn't!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mom's father, Albert Winner, was Adela's first cousin. Lizzie had another, older son, Harry Buerk, by an Illinois man. There are descedants of that marriage, in Illinois.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My Mom knew Adela (called Della). Adela had three siblings, all with "A" names -- Alvin, Arthur, and Alice. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ALVIN--Married late in life, to a French teacher. They had a daughter, still living, Aldred Hellmich, who is in her early 70s. She lives in Webster Groves, Mo. She doesn't have any children.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ARTHUR--Died, I think, in the early 1970s. Might have been his wife, though. Arthur had two children, Raymond, and Dorothy. Raymond was a lawyer with one son, Stephen ( I think that's his name). Stephen is still alive. Dorothy was my Mom's age. She had a mental illness and died after her parents did.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ALICE--Taught for years in the St. Louis Public Schools. Never married and didn't want Alvin to marry. When he did, she boycotted the wedding, and didn't talk to Alvin for decades. She is buried in Valhalla Cemetery in St. Louis County.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Besides Lizzie, Minnie had another sister, Louisa. Both of them married two brothers, the Hellmichs. Louisa's children were Lillian, Eleanor and Bill. None of them married (although Eleanor was engaged) or had children. Bill died young of TB. They are buried in St. John's Cemetery, St. Cyr and Bellefontaine road in St. Louis County.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We are all descendants of Heinrich (Henry) and Johanne Mannecke, who came to the U.S. from Germany. (Also buried in St. John's.) There is a male line of Manneckes that I've been in contact with. The great-grandson of William Albert Mannecke lives near San Antonio. He's in his early 60s. There are other Manneckes descended from Henry and Johanne Mannecke. They're a little hard to sort out, because down through the generations, they've been called, interchangeably, William Henry or Henry William. Most of them are in Missouri, though.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now here are some questions:&lt;br&gt;Is Keith Gabriel your brother? I met him when wwe both went to the University of Illinois. I was there in 1973-74. (I think he said he was from Peoria.)&lt;br&gt;Lillian and Eleanor talked a lot about Bob Gabriel. Is he your Dad? He used to come to Lillian and Eleanor's house near ours in St. Louis County and mow their grass. Did he go to Washington U? Was Rosemary Gabriel your aunt or great-aunt? From Bunker Hill? Didn't she have a sister? Did Adela died around June 1963? Was there a tornado around that time to? My younger brother was born then, and I think I remember Mom saying something about Della's death.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Write back soon!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Holly Hildebrand&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great-granddaughter of Lizzie Mannecke Winner&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2013-05-13 16:08:41Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Winner/Wenner family in St. Louis</title>
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      <description>Holly, I don't know if you are still checking in with Ancestry, but I am delighted to read your post.  My great-grandmother was Minnie Mannecke Hellmich--sister of Elizabeth Mannecke Winner.  We actually were hoping to connect with Florence Hildebrand--your mother?--last summer, only to learn of her passing.  I am Kathy Chapell; you can check the Hellmich tree for more info, although I still have much work to do.  My grandmother was Minnie's (Wilhemina) daughter, Adela Hellmich Gabriel.  My sibs and I are the only descendents of that line. I would love to connect with you.  </description>
      <pubDate>2013-05-13 14:00:01Z</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;SEEK GOSSY descendants from Borotsyanko (now Bernstein), Hungary (now Austria)!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My grandfather Josef Hermann's SISTER Karolina (Lena) nee HERMAN(N) went to ST.LOUIS circa 1900 (+/- a few yrs either way). She was b.in Borostyanko, Hungary c.1880-1890, but that is NOW called BERNSTEIN, AUSTRIA. She was the daughter of Samuel HERMANN and Anna GOSSY. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Are there any GOSSY family persons in Missouri, that come from Gossy families from Borostyanko, Hungary (later called Bernstein, Austria)?? Maybe your Gossy clan is part of mine? Did yours have an Anna Gossy in it, back in the 1850s? as a little girl?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I seek info about the GOSSY family of Borostyanko, HUNGARY that had a daughter named Anna who marries a gentleman named Samuel HERMANN in around 1870s?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I want to know about her mother's GOSSY family. Does anyone know anything of them? Names of HER Parents? Whether they are/were Full HUNGARIAN, or part Austrian/part-Hungarian or whether just carried an Hungarian surname&lt;br&gt;but had inter-married w/Austrians down thru the ages, from way back? Just curious, that's all!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Did Anna have any siblings????&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Would love to exchange info/pix with related folk. Contact me via here or&lt;br&gt;directly, at my regular email address, which is.....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JazzFusion.Gal (then the)@ (symbol,then)Gmail(dotcom)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JUST RUN ALL THE ABOVE TOGETHER-NO SPACES---THANKS!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;thanks so much, take care,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Diane&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2013-05-11 17:13:24Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E Wade Hankins</title>
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      <description>I found the obituary of E. Wade Hankins. If you would like to contact me at &lt;a href="mailto://dpn@mohistory.org"&gt;dpn@mohistory.org&lt;/a&gt; and provide your postal mailing address, I can send you a photocopy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, the St. Louis Mercantile Library's index to the St. Louis Globe-Democrat clippings collection includes a reference to an envelope of clippings regarding Hankins: &lt;a href="http://tjrhino1.umsl.edu/globedemocrat/globe_name.php" target="_blank"&gt;http://tjrhino1.umsl.edu/globedemocrat/globe_name.php&lt;/a&gt; (key in HANKINS in the SEARCH BY NAME box).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dennis Northcott&lt;br&gt;Missouri History Museum Library and Research Center</description>
      <pubDate>2013-05-07 15:19:52Z</pubDate>
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      <title>George Grover Hankins</title>
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      <description>Seeking obituary for George Grover Hankins died 28 Sep 1951 in St Louis, Missouri.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-05-04 22:16:23Z</pubDate>
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      <title>E Wade Hankins</title>
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      <description>Seeking obituary for E Wade Hankins died 7 Aug 1995 in Saint Louis, Saint Louis, Missouri. Obituary was printed in St. Louis Post-Dispatch 1995 Article 8/8. Can someone find this obituary for me?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks, &lt;br&gt;Jerry</description>
      <pubDate>2013-05-04 22:08:57Z</pubDate>
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      <description>I finally made it to his grave site, but no real photograph of him.  I have also made it to his parents grave site at Jackson, Tennessee. </description>
      <pubDate>2013-05-02 21:50:15Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Greg, I am back on genealogy again. Did you find anything for the Harveys or Duncans? I don't know any more...S</description>
      <pubDate>2013-05-02 16:38:19Z</pubDate>
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      <description>I am looking for any and all things on the Emas family (or families) in St. Louis. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am particularly interested in William Emas, who was born October 18, 1926 and was married in 1943 to Doris Adelle Kaeller. I believe both events happened in St. Louis, and any records confirming this would be appreciated...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don't even know William's parents' names.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-05-02 14:49:50Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Jeremiah Looker Family</title>
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      <description>&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Missouri, Death Records, 1834-1910&lt;br&gt;Name: George Looker &lt;br&gt;Death Date: 4 Aug 1898 &lt;br&gt;Birth Date: abt 1857 &lt;br&gt;County: St Louis &lt;br&gt;Death Location: St Louis &lt;br&gt;Race/Ethnicity: White &lt;br&gt;Age: 41 &lt;br&gt;Gender: M (Male) &lt;br&gt;Marital Status: Married&lt;br&gt;Occupation: Painter &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Missouri, Marriages, 1750-1920&lt;br&gt;Name: George Washington Looker  &lt;br&gt;Birthplace:  &lt;br&gt;Age:  &lt;br&gt;Spouse's Name: Margaret Flynn  &lt;br&gt;Spouse's Birthplace:  &lt;br&gt;Spouse's Age:  &lt;br&gt;Event Date: 26 Jun 1881  &lt;br&gt;Event Place: Saint Louis,St Louis,Missouri  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1880-&lt;br&gt;Name: George Looker &lt;br&gt;Age: 23 &lt;br&gt;Birth Year: abt 1857 &lt;br&gt;Birthplace: Missouri &lt;br&gt;Home in 1880: Saint Louis, St Louis (Independent City), Missouri &lt;br&gt;Race: White &lt;br&gt;Gender: Male &lt;br&gt;Relation to Head of House: Son &lt;br&gt;Marital Status: Single &lt;br&gt;Father's Birthplace: Ireland &lt;br&gt;Mother's Name: Sarah Looker &lt;br&gt;Mother's Birthplace: Ireland&lt;br&gt;Occupation: Painter &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Household Members:&lt;br&gt;Sarah Looker 45, Head, Ireland  (widowed)&lt;br&gt;George Looker 23 , Son, MO&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;1870-&lt;br&gt;Name: George Lucca [Looker]&lt;br&gt;Age in 1870: 13 &lt;br&gt;Birth Year: abt 1857 &lt;br&gt;Birthplace: Missouri &lt;br&gt;Home in 1870: St Louis Ward 7, St Louis, Missouri &lt;br&gt;Race: White &lt;br&gt;Gender: Male &lt;br&gt;Post Office: Saint Louis &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Household Members&lt;br&gt;Sarah Lucca 39, Ireland &lt;br&gt;William A Lucca 19, OH &lt;br&gt;George Lucca 13, MO &lt;br&gt;James Lucca 21, OH &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;It would appear Jeremiah died during the war&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;U.S., Civil War Draft Registrations Records, 1863-1865&lt;br&gt;Name: Jeramai Looker &lt;br&gt;Residence: Saint Louis, Missouri &lt;br&gt;Class: 1 &lt;br&gt;Congressional District: 1st &lt;br&gt;Age on 1 July 1863: 30 &lt;br&gt;Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 &lt;br&gt;Race: White &lt;br&gt;Marital Status: Married &lt;br&gt;Place of Birth: Ohio &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1860-&lt;br&gt;Name: Geo Locker [Looker]&lt;br&gt;Age in 1860: 3 &lt;br&gt;Birth Year: abt 1857 &lt;br&gt;Birthplace: Missouri &lt;br&gt;Home in 1860: St Louis Ward 9, St Louis (Independent City), Missouri &lt;br&gt;Gender: Male &lt;br&gt;Post Office: St Louis &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Household Members:&lt;br&gt;Jeremiah Locker 31, OH &lt;br&gt;Sarah Locker 30, Ireland &lt;br&gt;Jas Locker 12, OH  &lt;br&gt;Wm Locker 10, OH  &lt;br&gt;Geo Locker 3, MO &lt;br&gt;Caroline Locker 5/12, MO &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1850-&lt;br&gt;Name: Jeremiah Looker &lt;br&gt;Age: 24 &lt;br&gt;Birth Year: abt 1826 &lt;br&gt;Birthplace: Ohio &lt;br&gt;Home in 1850: Columbus Ward 4, Franklin, Ohio &lt;br&gt;Gender: Male &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Household Members:&lt;br&gt;Jeremiah Looker 24, OH &lt;br&gt;Sarah Looker 24, Wales &lt;br&gt;James Looker 2, OH  &lt;br&gt;Wm A Looker 0, OH  &lt;br&gt;Mary Ann Caldwell 16, Wales &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-29 15:08:59Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: House of Refuge</title>
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      <description>Oh my.Thank you so much. There he was! I appreciate your help so much.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-29 14:26:32Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: House of Refuge</title>
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      <description>Thank you so much. Sorry to take so long acknowledging your&lt;br&gt;great explanation .Life interfered . </description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-29 14:16:42Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Jeremiah Looker Family</title>
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      <description>Have two sets of info for Jeremiah Looker who was father of George Looker who married Margaret Flynn. They had a child named Rose who was mother of Sylvia Lehmann Hieger. Both sets of info show Jeremiah Looker being born in 1829 in Ohio. His parents were Joseph Looker and Charlotte O'Kane from Virginia. On set of info shows him married to Sarah ? and dying before 1866  in St. Louis, MO. The other set of info shows him unmarried and dying in 1896 in Summit Station, Licking, Ohio. These have to be 2 different Jeremiah Lookers but I'm looking for the one who was the father of George Looker who lived in St. Louis, MO. Can anyone help?</description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-29 05:13:50Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: 1860 Voter Reg. St. Louis area - Lookup</title>
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      <description>Hi Cathie,&lt;br&gt;You are right, I totally missed the ward being 1 and not 3.  The list of churches I posted were in ward 3. If it was the Ward 1 John McLaughlin you are interested in, then here are a list of Catholic Churches in Ward 1 for that time period. Dates established are in parens.&lt;br&gt;Assumption (1861)&lt;br&gt;St Agatha (1871)&lt;br&gt;St Frances de Sales (1867)&lt;br&gt;St John Nepomuk (1854)&lt;br&gt;Sts Peter &amp;amp; Paul (1849)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here is a link to a transcribed 1860 St Louis City Directory: &lt;a href="http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/1860CyDir/1860CD.htm" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/1860CyDir/1860CD.htm&lt;/a&gt; .  I found John McLaughlin's under 3 different spellings: McGlaughlin, McLaughlan and McLaughlin.  The John's living at 90 Christy Av and 71 Green are in north St Louis, and definitely not Ward 1.  The John McLaughlan, tanner, reside at Jackson betw Barton &amp;amp; Victor is in Ward 1.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Finally, the above list of churches is nearly identical to a list I posted to you back in 2010 at this link:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.stlouis/10313.1/mb.ashx" target="_blank"&gt;http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.mis...&lt;/a&gt; .  The only difference is that the new list do not include St Anthony of Padua (it is outside the city limits) and St Mary of Victories (it is not in ward 1). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good Luck&lt;br&gt;David in Pennsylvania</description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-28 14:21:24Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Request obituary</title>
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      <description>Would appreciate the obituary of Charles Reiter who d. Dec. 4, 1916 at St. Louis, Mo.  Thank you so very much.  Dorothy</description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-27 23:13:55Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Rose Looker Family</title>
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      <description>You're very welcome, I was glad to help.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Be sure to check it all out though, and maybe you'll find errors, so you should decide if it's all the right people.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you missed this because it's on another page, the marriage record is also attached.  I added it a bit later.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good luck!  &lt;br&gt;Mary</description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-27 19:50:04Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Rose Looker Family</title>
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      <description>Thanks so much for all your work. I'm just so astounded how much info you can find if you know where to look!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,&lt;br&gt;Pam</description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-27 18:15:40Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Rose Looker Family (marriage record)</title>
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      <description>Here's another record you'll want, Margaret Flynn and George Looker's marriage record.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Will attach the jpg.  Their record is at the end of the left page.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-27 16:42:03Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Rose Looker Family</title>
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      <description>Yes, luckily I saved the link. On Ancestry, when you're searching, links will appear usually on the side that direct you to other records, and that's how this record turned up.  It just popped up when I was looking at the 1880 census of George living with his mother Sarah, and it turned out to be correct because his address at time of death was the same as Margaret's 2 years later.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Those links are sometimes wrong though, so you can't believe the first thing that pops up as a clue on those Ancestry links!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But if you can open this link, it should take you to the old Missouri Death Records book:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?ti=0&amp;amp;indiv=try&amp;amp;db=modeaths&amp;amp;h=6977097" target="_blank"&gt;http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?ti=0&amp;amp;indiv=tr...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'll try to attach a jpg to this, just saved the image. George was #5419 on the page, and it shows he was buried at Calvary.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-27 16:32:28Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Rose Looker Family</title>
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      <description>This is a fly in the ointment. The 1850 census for Ohio shows what appears to be the same Jeremiah Looker and wife Sarah. Jeremiah born Ohio, Sarah in Wales.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But if the family tree that I saw on Ancestry is correct, and it probably is NOT, then there's a problem.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In Ohio in 1850 Jeremiah and family were living next to a Robert S. Looker, and a Benjamin Looker.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just want to point that out.  But George who died in 1898 was the correct husband of Margaret Flynn, since they had the exact same address 2 years apart in the records, and that George was the same one with mother Sarah in 1880 who matches the earlier census.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So don't take the tree info about Rockingham Co., Va., as truth, and also maybe there are mistakes in the census (there always are).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here's the 1850:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1850 United States Federal Census about Jeremiah Looker&lt;br&gt;Name: 	Jeremiah Looker&lt;br&gt;Age: 	24&lt;br&gt;Birth Year: 	abt 1826&lt;br&gt;Birthplace: 	Ohio&lt;br&gt;Home in 1850: 	Columbus Ward 4, Franklin, Ohio&lt;br&gt;Gender: 	Male&lt;br&gt;Family Number: 	310&lt;br&gt;Household Members: 	&lt;br&gt;Name 	Age&lt;br&gt;Jeremiah Looker 	24&lt;br&gt;Sarah Looker 	24&lt;br&gt;James Looker 	2&lt;br&gt;Wm A Looker 	0&lt;br&gt;Mary Ann Caldwell 	16&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also on same page, Robt S. Looker, 30, born Wales, and Benjamin Looker, age 20, born Ohio, along with Robert's family.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not sure about the Caldwells, they were from Wales, maybe their daughter was just helping out at the Looker house, which was why she was recorded there.  Or maybe a relative.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-27 16:25:42Z</pubDate>
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