hi, i believe my family (Loethen) of Westphalia, Meta, and St. Elizabeth Missouri is very likely the lineage you are looking for on this post. Check out my tree and let me know! Hopefully I can help you fill in some gaps & i would love love love to get farther back in my tree - especially to the time/place/and relatives that immigrated here. I look forward to hearing from you!!!!! have a great day!!