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JOHN KURZEAK (ABT 1891 - ABT 1949)

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Re: JOHN KURZEAK (ABT 1891 - ABT 1949)

mrsouers  (View posts) Posted: 14 Aug 2010 7:54AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Kurzeak, Kuhavcki, Kocharski, Kucharczyk, Kuchareczk
The daughter Anne was my mother-in-law. She was married to Donald Bruce Souers in Sep. 1947 in Broward County, Florida. Found him in the index and had to search using the certificate # to find her. Here she used the name "Anne Royer." It just gets crazier and crazier. You might think she hadn't changed her name to Kurzeak yet, BUT the Manning City Directory has John KURZEAK living on 271 W. Twelfth St. Elmira Heights with daughters Mary and Ann KURZEAK in 1936 (Eva had already gone by then; where? who knows. 2nd husband Glenn Torrence was still living with 1st or 2nd wife then. I don't find him and Eva together until around 1944. And what do you make of Anne's birth certificate? She obviously wasn't born with that name. What would make me think that she would use her birth name on the Social Security application if she didn't use it anywhere else? I already had most of the sweeney information, but it doesn't really help me as far as John, the father of Anne and brother of Anna (Sweeney), because, again, it's just another variation of the name (Kuhavcki, Kocharski, Kucharczyk, Kuchareczk). At least the one thing that was consistent was the "K" until I discoverd Anne "Royers." Now how bizarre is that? What I want to do is find out about John, what happened to him and in order to that I need to know the name HE used at the time of his death. There doesn't seem to be anyway of discovering that. I do know that the daughter Mary had an out-of-wedlock child when she was about 17. He is still living (in Miami) and HE uses the name Robert JAMES. I believe he knows the family secret, but he's not gonna tell. The reason I think that is because I did talk to the informant for Eva's death certificate (I have it, but no confidence in the information since it was provided by a friend. For what it's worth, the maiden name there is "Zureski"). She was a good friend of Eva and is (or recently was) still living in Elmira Heights or thereabouts (maybe painetd post of horseheads, I don't remember now), but her name is Marion Prince. She said that Eva would never talk about John and that "Bobby" (referring to the o-o-w child) "...hated him. That's why he changed his name." (???). SO, my theory is that John did something really bad and the only thing I can think of that would cause so much shame and secrecy (this is just a guess of course) is that he incested the daughter Mary and fathered the o-o-w child. There is NO info on the child or his father, though he did grow up in elmira Heights (but who knows what HIS name was?). But he did tell me that he went to John's (his father/grandfather's) funeral ("they had him laid out at my mother's house" which was, I presume on W. twelfth street or thereabouts), but doesn't know (so he says) the cause of death or anything like that. HE also told me that John was buried in "the family plot" along with his mother, Mary and the brother Michael in the catholic cemetery (I think it might have been St. Patrick's, but am not sure now I did search through Joyce Tyce's website and I did find Mary and Michael (or "Micky"), but guess what? No John. Well, no surprise there. I know Bob knows, though, because Marion told me that he SEND FLOWERS EVERY YEAR TO THE CEMETERY (but couldn't tell me the name of it). Also, another little piece of the story is that apparently Anne was shipped off at some point as she does not appear with the rest of the family on the 1930 census, but apparently was working as a servant in syracuse (she would have been 15 at that time, working as a servant ??). SOOO Iknow I have rambled on and perhaps this wouldn't matter all that much aside from the curiosity raised by it all, but my husband was diagnosed with dementia at age 51 and is now in a nursing home and we have two sons (17 yo twins) and I would really like to know as much as I can about what happened to John, my husband's grandfather, who died young (in his 50s I presume). His parents had no dementia, I can attest to that. Oh, and one other thing, how do all these people get to be buried in catholic cemeteries? I could swear that my m-i-l told me that Eva and John had DIVORCED. Can divorced and remarried people be buried in catholic cemeteries?
So, you can see what I am up against and I have pretty much given up on ever arriving at the truth. Thanks for listening and for your help. I do appreciate it.

Robin Souers
Harlem, Georgia
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