Juvenile home in Syracuse, 1943
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Re: Juvenile home in Syracuse, 1943
 JoMac53
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Posted: 26 Apr 2008 1:45PM GMT |
Classification: Query
Surnames: Roach, Nugent, Perry
Hi Linda,
The "reformed" as you so kindly put it ::grin:: was my dad, James E. Roach, 17, of 271 Flower St., Watertown. He and two other boys were arraigned in police court in Syracuse for train riding. The title of the article is "Delinquency Wave Keeping Police Busy", Syracuse Herald Journal, 19 Oct 1943, page six, column one (on Ancestry.com). Further on in the article it says two other boys, age 15, stole a car, "...after escaping from the juvenile home in Syracuse."
I know my father was in "reform school" as a youth but I don't know where, when or for how long. This article says he plead guilty and was sentenced but I couldn't find a followup story on it to see what the sentence was. This could have been the first time he got into trouble or the second. After getting out of reform school he got into trouble a second time but instead of sending him to jail, the judge sent him to join the Army. I know he enlisted about Sep 1949 (probably in Syracuse), and he's still listed as living with his mother, Ruth Nugent, at 271 Franklin St., Watertown, in the 1944 Watertown city directory, so this train riding incident was probably the first time he was sentenced.
The NY State Archives informed me that I would have to have a name and date in order to try to find the records for him at a reform school. I finally have a name (I don't know if you remember but he's the one who had changed his name from James Edward Roach to James Martin Perry) and it looks like I may have the date. If I can only find out the name of the juvenile home in Syracuse I may be in business. :) Of course, I don't know for certain that he was sentenced to the one in Syracuse but it seems likely.
Jo
The "reformed" as you so kindly put it ::grin:: was my dad, James E. Roach, 17, of 271 Flower St., Watertown. He and two other boys were arraigned in police court in Syracuse for train riding. The title of the article is "Delinquency Wave Keeping Police Busy", Syracuse Herald Journal, 19 Oct 1943, page six, column one (on Ancestry.com). Further on in the article it says two other boys, age 15, stole a car, "...after escaping from the juvenile home in Syracuse."
I know my father was in "reform school" as a youth but I don't know where, when or for how long. This article says he plead guilty and was sentenced but I couldn't find a followup story on it to see what the sentence was. This could have been the first time he got into trouble or the second. After getting out of reform school he got into trouble a second time but instead of sending him to jail, the judge sent him to join the Army. I know he enlisted about Sep 1949 (probably in Syracuse), and he's still listed as living with his mother, Ruth Nugent, at 271 Franklin St., Watertown, in the 1944 Watertown city directory, so this train riding incident was probably the first time he was sentenced.
The NY State Archives informed me that I would have to have a name and date in order to try to find the records for him at a reform school. I finally have a name (I don't know if you remember but he's the one who had changed his name from James Edward Roach to James Martin Perry) and it looks like I may have the date. If I can only find out the name of the juvenile home in Syracuse I may be in business. :) Of course, I don't know for certain that he was sentenced to the one in Syracuse but it seems likely.
Jo