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Re: Lakeside School for girls, Spring Valley, NY

MarnyRenteria — 2013-06-17 01:31:41Z

Thank you for posting. I am also doing research on this very special school. My mother has had such fond memories of attending this boarding school in upstate New York. She would always tell me that "these were the best years of my life". My mother Nieves Rosario and sister Julia Rosario were schooled here from early 1930's to High School. My mother was born in 1927 and from Puerto Rico. Her mother (my grandmother) could not afford to support her two younger children. My mother was blessed to have such a beautiful place to grow and learn. We grew up singing all the old songs and hearing delightful tales of the loving, and sometimes stern "house mothers". My mother's favorite teacher was the nature teacher named "Miss Jane". My mother always had a desire to write a book about this sanctuary of a place. I also have plenty of photos if you would like me to share. Do you have a Facebook page? My email is MarnyRenteria@aol.com. I was born 1966. My mother had a total of six children. She is now almost 86 in August. Sadly, she has Alzheimer's and cannot recall too much of the past. Let me know if I can help you further. All My Love

Re: Loretta (Laura) May MALLOY

erikaconti — 2013-06-14 03:36:43Z

Hi Jill -
I am hoping this will find its way to you. It has been quite some time since you posted this. I am the granddaughter of James Malloy. Hope to hear from you.

Re: Lakeside School for girls, Spring Valley, NY

kto1375 — 2013-06-11 22:40:52Z

Sorry, I was looking for my mother and uncles who were there in the 1940s, kathleen

Re: great grandparentsts, great great uncles... great great aunts...

debdebnyc36 — 2013-06-11 21:16:40Z

Hi Brian,

My name is Debbie Morgenstern, I live in NYC, and my Mother was born in Rymanow Poland just before WW2. My Mother's Maternal Grandmother was Faige Sheindel Markel, and she was married to Yaakov Elimelech Beil and my Mother's Mother, my Grandmother was her eldest daughter named Gittel/Giza Beil Goldschein, married to Yosef Zvi Goldschein.
I'm the family 'historian', although I'm quite new at doing research... and I'm in the midst of researching our Markel Family. We know that Adolf Markel was my Great Grandmother's brother and that he had settled in Wilmington, Delaware when he came to the USA. Adolf and my Great Grandmother and their other brother, Binem/Binyomen Markel who was married to Faige Bucher (in Rymanow) -- he and his wife and daughters perished during WW2... Thank G-d, their 2 sons Matis(yahu) and Avraham did survive vthe war and made it to Israel after the war. My Great Grandmother and my Great Great Uncle Adolf Markel also had at least 3 sisters and they were all, as well as their Father -- who was Matisyahu Markel -- born in Rymanow. I believe that their Mother's name was Chana and I would love to find out what her Maiden name was, and if she too was also born in Rymanow or not.. Rymanow was, at certain points in history, considered as a part of Poland, and at other points was considered as a part of the Austria/Hungary Empire as the borders kept changing... I'm not as of yet a member of ancestry.com, and thereby wasn't able to contact you directly. So it also listed that you've also posted through here and therefor, I am leaving a message for you in here. My Great Great Grandmother and her brother, my Great Great Uncle Adolf Markel also had 2 sisters here in the USA, one (or both) lived in Perth Amboy, NJ and at some point my family was in touch with them however then, at some point my family lost track of them approximately 20 years ago. I am wondering if you know their names as well as their descendants names and how to reach their children too. There was also a son of their youngest Markel sister who sadly perished during WW2, however her son Elias Beil did survive the war and made it to the US and married a woman named Judy and they lived in Philadelphia and I believe they had a daughter and a son. I discovered that Elias Beil passed away approximately 2-3 years ago, prior to my beginning to search for our family. His wife Judy might still be alive, although when I did try to reach her over the phone during this past year, I kept missing her.... My Mother and her young brother and parents and her Aunt Basia and Uncle Sruel/Irwin and her Great Grandmother Faige Sheindel Markel Beil were sent as prisoners to Siberia by the Russians, after the escaped from the nazis in September 19i39 at the early part of WW2, and then during the 2nd part of WW2 and they were allowed to settle in a warmer area and went to Kazakhstan until the end of the war. After the war, my Great Grandmother and her son Irwin got into the USA and settled in the Bronx, where my Grandmother's 2 sisters lived -- 2 of my Great Aunts: Dayenne and Molly -- who were both lucky to be sponsored by Adolf in 1938 and emigrated to the US in 1938, approximately a year before WW2 began.... I look forward to hearing from you and would greatly appreciate finding out about our 'lost' relatives. My email address is: debdebnyc36 @ yahoo... Bye for now... All the best, Debbie

Re: Lakeside School for girls, Spring Valley, NY

libra12374 — 2013-06-11 14:24:36Z

Hi donnadee1113:

I to went to Lakeside in the late 70's on through to the early 80's I was unit B and C on top then, to the dorm in the original Mansions and on to Roosevelt. Interested in remembering you and exchanging old photos and If you know where some of our generation has gone and is doing.....my regular email is libra123@optonline.net.
Take care

Location of 51st. Roman Catholic Church and obituary

1_ecchavez — 2013-05-18 21:16:20Z

I need some information - location of a Roman Catholic Church.
This is what Abon Kearney's marriage announcement said:
Mr. Abon Kearney, of Tomkins Cove, and Miss Kate Peters, formerly of this place, but now of New York city, were married in the 51st R.C. church on Monday afternoon.
(Haverstraw, Rockland County Times, Volume 0000000, January 13, 1894, Page 8.)
Marriage Date: 8 January 1894

I have no idea where the 51st R.C. Church is located. I assume in New York City; could not find the church there.
Any help would be appreciated.
I am also looking for the obituary or date of death for Abon Kearney's mother, Mary A. Kearney. Her husband, Michael Kearney, passed away in 1896. I can no longer find Mary A. Kearney in the 1900 census.
Again, any help would be appreciated.
Ellen Chavez

Re: Patience Jersey Davis Butler, 1828-

DavisRD59 — 2013-04-29 23:38:04Z

Just wanted to let you know I posted on Find-A-Grave this week, pictures of headstones for William H. Davis and some of his and Patience children buried in the Shaver Hollow Road Cemetery in Andes, New York. These may be of interest and help to your research.
Chhttp://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GScid=2... here for William's memorial.

Re: Defreese/Smith

jwmoore_51 — 2013-04-26 01:34:26Z

Catherine Margaret and William Smith are buried in Goshen,NY Bates cemetary in the black section of cemetary

Re: Defreese/Smith

jwmoore_51 — 2013-04-26 01:28:01Z

Samuel Defreese married Katherine Mann in 1800's,Catherine Margaret was born 1848 in Ramapo Mountains Catherine margaret married william Smith and Had a son named Albert who was born around 1878.he Married Minnie Degroat.they had several children one of whom was my grandmother Minnie she married george williams and they had one sone.Henry aka Lone Feather.he is my dad.Samuel had 10 children-- John who died in infancy,harriet,emiline,Alpheus,Catherine Margaret,Eliza,Samuel jr,Nelson budd,Abraham and Jessie Franklin.He had 1 sister catherine,5brothers-Peter,John,Elias,James and Thomas.he is said to have built the 1st black church of logs in 1870's in Hillburn

Francis Price Hamilton b 2 Jan 1786

pdpol53 — 2013-04-22 23:37:10Z

I need some type of Primary evidence that Francis Price Hamilton is the son of Sarah Price Hamilton and James Hamilton of Sussex, NJ. I could also use proof that he is the brother to Benjamin Hamilton as Benjamin has a death record with his parents listed. I am working on a DAR application and they will not accept the Hamburg Hamilton Monument or family histories as proof.

Thanks,
Pam
pdpollard@bellsouth.net

Persis Ross Browning b. 11 Jul 1786 Jaffrey, NH

pdpol53 — 2013-04-22 23:33:11Z

I am working on a DAR application and need primary evidence that Persis Ross was the daughter of Abraham Ross of Jaffrey, NH. The DAR is not accepting "family" or "Town" histories as evidence without some type of support. If you can help me, I would appreciate it.
Thanks,
Pam

Obituary Look-Up for Vandunk/Jennings of Hillburn

mrs_demas — 2013-04-21 20:50:04Z

I currently was cleaning out my grandparents papers and found a bunch of obits but I am missing two. Hope someone could help me get a copy of my great grandparents obituaries
Thank you

1) Willard Jennings Sr.
Birth 3/15/1895
Death 3/1971 in Hillburn, New York, USA

2)Marion Vandunk-Jennings
Birth 6/1892
Death 3/1969

Birth Record- Mabel Leach, Nyack/Orangetown, 1906

lulupackard — 2013-04-20 14:17:14Z

I'm seeking a birth record for Mabel Leach, daughter of Martin and Helen Leach, born about 1906 in Nyack or Orangetown. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Re: happy valley school

bradovision — 2013-04-20 02:56:05Z

I was at Happy Valley from 1962 to 1966. I lived in Camp Junior, and we had house parents named the Presslers. Do you remember the name of your house? How old were you when you were there? Did you have Mrs. Misner for a teacher? I was 7 years old when i started there. Would be interested in any comments from anyone that was there. Brad Burkhardt.

KERR family

DiOakley5791 — 2013-04-19 18:52:40Z

I am looking for information on Robert and Mary Kerr, who lived in Rockland County, NY in the mid- to late 1800's. Their children are: Robert, David, Ada, Anna, Goodwin, and Phebe. I am looking for 1850 and prior, and later than 1880. I have all the years in between. They lived in Haverstraw and Stony Point.

Re: Letchworth Village

jdunnquest — 2013-04-13 17:20:55Z

My Great Aunt Julia Kelly (aka Lulu) was an inmate there in 1930. Family all knew that she had some type of disability, but no more details than that.

Julis was with her family in the 1920 census and Letchworth in the 1930 census. She died in 1930. At first I thought that she died in Westchester county where her family was and could never locate her death certificate. I found her obit and it mentioned Haverstraw but said that she died at the home of her sisiter (in Mount Vernon) after a lingering illness. The obit had some info flip-flopped so I'm thinking that she might have died in Rockland County. Fortunately, Julia was buried in a family grave elsewhere. I think that her family did care for her. I hope that her stay at Letchworth was short. If anyone knew of my Aunt, I would love to hear from you.

Re: The Old Letchworth Village Cemetery Monument - List of Souls

preilly328 — 2013-04-12 15:18:09Z

Bette,
No were no Jansky's or Yonsky's in my photos of the monument. The closest name I found was Sarah Levofsky.
Pete

Frank Beasley

ejpw35 — 2013-04-12 06:28:36Z

I am trying to find Frank Beasley Born 1832 in Brooklyn New York. He has been listed as a Captain. He lived in Matthews Va and married Elizabeth Hurst and had a daughter Susan Frances. He later married in Gloucester Va to a Virginia E. Huel. He also has listed with him in census an Israel Dupuy B. 1812 in New York. Israel is listed witha Elizabeth Dupuy B 1791 in Richmond Staten Island New York. I have not been able to find anything on Frank in New York. I believe these two were friends in New York and may have ventured to Va. It is possible that Frank was the Captain of a boat that traveled to Va from New York. If you have any information you may email me at ejpw35@gmail.com. I appreciate any help in advance....

Re: Letchworth Village

PATRICIAGERESSY — 2013-04-11 16:19:47Z

Don't know if these are the same 2 uncles. My 2 uncles, William and Gerald were listed in the 1930 census at Letchworth Village. Their father, William, was my mother's father (my grandfather) from his second marriage. So sad to find out this information.

Re: Bletchley/Williams, d. ~1919 Nyack

PaigeJudi — 2013-04-10 21:02:31Z

Hi...
I believe we might be related because August Kitterle & stepbrother are my cousins (Probably). Their mother was my mother's sister. I am Jennie's & Al's youngest child, Judi. I've been serching many years for some remains of family. Your grandfather was my Uncle Charles (Chappy) and married to my Aunt Florence. Do you have an Aunt Joan who was Jennie's godchild? Write, if you feel we are related and can pass any info to me. Judi
judi.baber@cox.net

Re: Bletchley/Williams, d. ~1919 Nyack

PaigeJudi — 2013-04-10 20:45:21Z

I just discovered after 13 yrs. this message you posted. I've been searching for any family on either side of my family, but most have died. I believe you are my cousin (long lost) it might appear. I had an Uncle Bill & Aunt Sophie who in my childhood lived in Conn. My mother was Jennie she had sisters Harriet, Annetta, brothers, Charles (Chappy), George & Bill all of whom I knew and met. Any info or if you'd like to make contact my email is judi.baber@cox.net

Re: The Old Letchworth Village Cemetery Monument - List of Souls

bettebb — 2013-04-09 00:07:44Z

Thank you Pete. The only other name I can think of would have been JANSKY/YONSKY. I appreciate your efforts.

Thanks again.

Bette

Re: The Old Letchworth Village Cemetery Monument - List of Souls

preilly328 — 2013-04-08 23:59:42Z

Hi,
Take Willow Grove Rd. to Call Hollow Rd.
Make a left onto Call Hollow Rd.
A little past the housing development on your left you'll see a blue sign and a place to pull over. The cemetery is back a few hundred yards from the road.

Re: The Old Letchworth Village Cemetery Monument - List of Souls

preilly328 — 2013-04-08 23:55:05Z

Hi Bette,
Here are the names I found that ended in "Z":
Peter Zychal,
Josesph Zimmerman,
Moriss Zand,
Fannie Zager,
Andrea Zimmerman,
and George Zilles.

I'm sorry if none of these are what you are looking for. The next time I go up to the cemetery I'll take another look in case I missed something.

Pete

Re: The Old Letchworth Village Cemetery Monument - List of Souls

herburgd — 2013-04-08 21:56:24Z

I don't live in that state. preilly328 is who went there to take photos for me. You can contact her through ancestry.com to find out where it is.

Debbie

Re: The Old Letchworth Village Cemetery Monument - List of Souls

herburgd — 2013-04-08 21:55:38Z

I don't live in that state. preilly328 is who went there to take photos for me. You can contact her through ancestry.com to find out where it is.

Debbie

Re: The Old Letchworth Village Cemetery Monument - List of Souls

bigvasily — 2013-04-08 20:48:59Z

you know i live in the area; where exactly is this cemetery?..being a historical buff and living a few blocks from letchworth, i would really like to go there. Thanks!

Re: Sarah Suffern

CarolynSuffern — 2013-04-03 14:30:30Z

This was written on "Genealogy Tip of the Day." Please read the bottom sentence.

The Problem With Data Entry
Genealogical databases sometimes want us to know more than we do and encourage us to conclude more than may be actually implied in the record. An estate settlement from the 1870s indicated that the deceased was survivied by the children of his sister--and then it goes to name her two sons and one daughter.

The sons have the same last name and the daughter is listed being married.

Nowhere in the records is it stated that the daughter is the full sister of the two sons. They easily could have been half siblings and the court would not have cared.

Be careful when doing data entry that you do not enter more than the record states.

Re: Sarah Suffern

CarolynSuffern — 2013-04-03 14:02:42Z

When you are introducing your own personal preference without notation, you are introducing an element that has no basis in fact. This may be confusing to others. Perhaps you can take the time to write out, "John S., son of John S. Suffern." Surely this would not take too long.

Re: Sarah Suffern

headtester2231 — 2013-04-03 13:55:28Z

I am well aware of John S. Suffern's name and his descendants names as well. The "II" is for clarification about which man I am addressing. Its a bit awkward to always use"John S. Suffern, son of John S. Suffern who married Elizabeth Suffern."

Re: de la Montagnes in Haverstraw

CarolynSuffern — 2013-03-31 12:08:58Z

Hello,

John Suffern (born Feb 6, 1787) son of patriarch John Suffern and Mary Myers Suffern who settled in what now is Suffern, NY, in 1773, married Anne Montanje. They settled in Haverstraw.

"Major" Suffern was the grandson of John and Mary, and son of their son William. He was James Bogert Suffern. This is a hard family to keep track of since they used the same names all the time!!

Re: SUFFERN FAMILY

CarolynSuffern — 2013-03-31 11:42:23Z

Gail,

William Suffern is the son of John Suffern and Mary Myers Suffern, who settled in what now is Suffern, NY, in 1773. His wife was Martha Bertholf.

Re: Sarah Suffern

CarolynSuffern — 2013-03-31 11:34:03Z

Ted,
In records passed to me Eliza is the given name of Elizabeth and John S' daughter. She is referred to in contemporary family documents as Eliza. I do not think Eliza is a nickname for Elizabeth. Also, in family records of two groups, son John S. is not referred to as "II"

Re: Sarah Suffern

CarolynSuffern — 2013-03-31 11:30:26Z

The John S. Suffern Ted Hester is discussing lived in Elmira, NY. He was descended from John Suffern, patriarch who settled in what now is known as Suffern, NY. His daughter Elizabeth married her cousin from Ireland, John S. Suffern in 1797. They moved to Tioga County, NY/Elmira circa 1801, to manage her father's vast land holdings there.

Their son, probably another John S. Suffern was born about 1804.

Steve Burton's John S. Suffern is descended from John Suffern through his son Andrew's child Peter. Very confusing group we are!!

Re: Sarah Suffern

CarolynSuffern — 2013-03-31 11:26:19Z

Ted,
Steve Burton's Sarah, comes through a different line.

Re: descendants of John SUFFERN; WHEELER

CarolynSuffern — 2013-03-31 11:25:07Z

Hello,

I have interest in your information. I am descended from John Suffern through his daughter Elizabeth who married her cousin John S. Suffern. Their son John married Hannah Wheeler. I expect this is the "Wheeler" you know about.

Thanks

Re: RAMAPO - MANN/DEGROOT

CarolynSuffern — 2013-03-31 11:11:31Z

Hello,

The Mann family, or at least branches of it can be traced to Maniis, who signed the first or one of the first deeds with European colonizers. This was traced by Roger Joslyn, a preeminent genealogist. David Cohen's "Ramapo Mountain People' is based on many false premises, or outright fabrications - follow his footnotes as I have.

Re: Suffern ancestors

CarolynSuffern — 2013-03-31 11:05:08Z

I am descended from John Suffern and his wife Mary and have family records, including information about Peter Suffern who was descended from Andrew Suffern and who married Sarah Mann, a Ramapough Lenape Indian woman.

Re: Thomas Fortune RYAN, 1900 billionaire

rfortune60 — 2013-03-29 17:09:09Z

He was a second cousin

Re: GEROW

stalter42 — 2013-03-28 17:32:50Z

Hello jean my names Gerald stalter grandson of Gertrude rose and Melvin stalter I am now studying the family history. I saw that you had my grandparents wedding annoncment of Emma and Mel. I was wondering how if you have anything related to the stalters. If so please let me know. I'm looking mainly for stuff on Gerald Edward and Melvin if you have pictures of them as young men or documents anything you can share with me. I can't wait to hear from you. J.
if this isnt joan brooks who knew gertrude and maude im sorry that i took your time.

Re: Firth Haring Fabend's book, "A Dutch Family in the Middle Colonies, 1660-1800"

stalter42 — 2013-03-28 17:29:04Z

Hello jean my names Gerald stalter grandson of Gertrude rose and Melvin stalter I am now studying the family history. I saw that you had my grandparents wedding annoncment of Emma and Mel. I was wondering if you have anything related to the stalters. If so please let me know. I'm looking mainly for stuff on Gerald Edward and Melvin if you have pictures of them as young men or documents anything you can share with me. I can't wait to hear from you. gerald stalter thank you for your time.

also i didnt know if you have heared but gertude rose passed on last year.

Re: The Old Letchworth Village Cemetery Monument - List of Souls

bettebb — 2013-03-21 13:07:16Z

Hi Pete,

I am looking for the name ZELENKA/ZELINKA/ZALANKA - various spellings. Family lore has a relative (probably male), in the Zelenka line, confined to Letchworth. Is this name on your pictures?

Bette

Re: The Old Letchworth Village Cemetery Monument - List of Souls

preilly328 — 2013-03-20 17:54:39Z

Last one.

Re: The Old Letchworth Village Cemetery Monument - List of Souls

preilly328 — 2013-03-20 17:53:41Z

Another.

Re: The Old Letchworth Village Cemetery Monument - List of Souls

preilly328 — 2013-03-20 17:52:40Z

And another.
Pete

Re: The Old Letchworth Village Cemetery Monument - List of Souls

preilly328 — 2013-03-20 17:51:25Z

Debbie,
I guess I have to send one attachment at a time. So here is another.
Pete

Re: The Old Letchworth Village Cemetery Monument - List of Souls

preilly328 — 2013-03-20 17:49:17Z

Debbie,
Here is the close-up of your uncle's name on the plaque at the Letchworth Cemetery: George W Burchell. There was a lot of snow on the ground and it was pretty cold, but I took closeups of all the names on the plaque. I'm not sure if anyone else is interested in those, or how to post them all if that's what makes most sense. I also took a few photos from further away for perspective. Your Uncle George is the 11th name down from the top of the 3rd column.

This was my first trip to the cemetery and although it is a beautiful setting, it made me very sad. The numbered metal T's are so inhuman.

In Gratitude,
Pete

Re: Cyr- Miquelon birth record

mvan26 — 2013-03-20 02:46:29Z

I have a 6 page family tree with 4 generations of descendants of Vincent Cyr that I attached to this reply in a JPG format, probably not the best for printing. Can you send me your direct email address and I will mail you a PDF version? (They don't allow PDF versions to be attached.) Mine is mvan26(the at sign)gmail.com The reason for the using the "code" (the at sign) is they may strip out email addresses so that non-members don't communicate off line.

When you review the trees any changes or questions welcomed. The name Cyr, Cyr-Miquelon, Miquelon are interchangeable as you probably already know.

Re: Cyr- Miquelon birth record

jmtodesc — 2013-03-20 01:27:55Z

I would love to see what you have and share it with my mom. PDFs would work best. Thank you very much!
The birth date you quote for Timoreon sounds possible (I can't comment on the 'Louis'). Family lore is that he came west at the age of 18 just before the second rebellion. I know that the 10th of his 13 children (Cordelie) was born in 1900. So I think those dates could work.
I'm certain that his wife was Oledin though. They had a granddaughter named Olivine (possibly a daughter as well.)

Re: Cyr- Miquelon birth record

jmtodesc — 2013-03-20 01:27:27Z