Hi, I saw your various posts. John Brail Jr. married Catherine Karcher. She was born in Wayland, most llkely, in 1816. Wayland was formed from S. Dansville and Cohocton, I believe. Catherine was the 4th daughter of the 12 children of WIlliam Karcher and Magdalena Welch. The Karchers settled shortly before 1810. William and Magdalena had their first child, Elizabeth, in 1809. William's siblings and parents also came up their. His older brother George lived in Cohocton but died early 1820's. William was born 1782, in Berks County, PA and died in Wayland in 1852. Magdalena was one of the 7 children of Jacob Welch, who settled in 1798 in Dansville, children were Catherine, 1784, Magdalena 1786, Jacob, Conrad, Henry, Mary, and Elizabeth? Jacob Welch died in Dansville in 1831 or so, wife Catherine Martz born around 1762 in PA and died in early 1850's, very old. Her brother Conrad and father Jacob also came up in 1798. They came from Sunbury, Northumberland Co. PA, although oldest Welch dau. Catherine, 1784, baptized in Berks Co. PA George Karcher, brother of Wm, born 1770's in Berks Co. PA, married Catherine, 10 or more children, Solomon, 1798 or so, Martin, 1800, George, Sophia, 1806 or so married John Hamsher, Christianne, born 1805 or so, wife of WM Hottenstein, I believe, Catherine, Sally, and a few more. Sarah, sister of Wm Karcher, born 1792, married Peter Kuhn of Sparta, Livingston Co, and settled in Livinston Co, Michigan where she died in 1870''s. Parents of William, George, Sarah, and a few more sisters, were Martin Karcher, born 1751 in Berks Co. and died probably Sparta after 1820, and wife, Anna Elizabeth Bader, born 1755 in Berks. Co. and died after 1820, probably in Sparta. 1810 census lists William, George and Martin as Karker, one of many misspellings. Children of WIlliam and Magdelana were Elizabeth, 1809, married James Hallett, settled in Indiana, Mary, 1812, wife of Humphrey Teasdale, she died in Dansville in 1895? and is buried with her husband, some children and parents Wm and Magdalena in Dansville, Greenmount Cemetery. Lydia, 1814, married Artemus Mann, later went to Michigan, Catherine, 1816, wife of John Brail Jr. buried in Greenlawn Cemetery in South Dansville. Susan, 1818, wife of Henry Opp, died 1902? in Dansville, William B. 1820-1880's. married Lydia Shutt, Samuel M, 1822-1906, died in Pavilion, Genessee County, where he, mother Magdalena and younger sister Sophia settled after 1855, Rebecca, 1824, married Jarvis Robinson and settled in Missouri, Eliza Ann, married Frederick Ashbaugh, settled south of Rochester, died very old, and Sophia, born 1833/34 and died in Pavilion NY, never married. 2 other children died young. Magdelana died in 1869, probably in Pavilion. If any of this doesn't make sense, feel free to drop me a line. Also, there is some confusion surrounding the Martz family, but Conrad Welch gave a family history in 1852 which mentioned his grandfather Jacob Martz's farm near Sunbury Northumberland PA. and the 1800 census of Dansville would indicate this Jacob Martz had many grown children. He might have gone back to Sunbury. Finally, Martin Karcher 1751-1820's was the son of Martin Karcher Senior, born 1718 Dobel, near Stuttgart Germany, came to US with many sisters, brother Gottfried who went to Tennessee as Gottfried Carriger. Parents were Michael Karcher (Kaercher) 1692, died near Longswamp TWP. in Berks County PA.