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The Lester Will Book - Wills of Suffolk County, NY 1691-1703

silverfox3280 — 2013-05-09 04:10:47Z

Author: Pelletreau, William Smith,1840-1918

Title: Early Long Island wills of Suffolk county, 1691-1703. An unabridged copy of the manuscript volume known as "The Lester will book"; being the record of the prerogative court of the county of Suffolk, New York. With genealogical and historical notes ...
Publication Info: Ithaca, New York: Cornell University Library
Print source: New York: F. P. Harper, 1897

URL: http://ebooks.library.cornell.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=nys;...

WILL of Benjamin King, Proved 1850

silverfox3280 — 2013-05-07 15:56:22Z

This is another one of those wills of a single man, naming peripheral relatives, in this case siblings, brothers-in-law, and nieces and nephews, so it could give a missing piece of info to various surname genealogies of Southold.

I believe this Benjamin may have been the son of Benjamin & Abigail (Terry) King. If so, his paternal line would be:

Benjamin-5,4, John-3, Samuel-2,William-1 King

He would have at least one other King line, as his maternal grandmother was a King, as well.

His father, Benjamin King, died 1780, the same year he was born. His mother, Abigail Terry, married 2nd John Cleaves Terry. This is how he obtained the half-siblings he mentions in his will.
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WILL OF BENJAMIN KING

Abstracts of wills, recorded at Riverhead, Suffolk County, New York, Van Buren, Elizabeth R, Liber 5, pg 8 FHL Film 860327.

"Benjamin King, of Riverhead. 3 Aug 1838. Died 12 Apr inst. Legacies to: wife's nephew Benjamin K. Paine; Benjamin K. Mulford, of Oysterpond; Benjamin K. Woodhull, of Wading River; to "my" nephew John K. Paine $1,000; and to three nieces of Newburn, N. C., children of brother, deceased, vis Sally Ann Bryan, Betsey S(?)lover, Harriet King; to two half-sisters Fanny Mulford and Betsey Warner. Balance to last named. Exts: Nathaniel Warner, Elisha Mulford. Wits: Isaiah Terry, Isaiah Terry, Jr. Proof adds: one deceased half-sister whose children are Nathaniel, Franklin, Edward K. and Lester Fanning; half-sisters Polly, wife of Henry Conklin; Fanny, wife of Elisha Mulford; and Betsey, wife of Nathaniel Warner; and other heirs, viz: Sarepta Squires, Abigail Fanning, Emily Terry. Pro: 20 Jun 1850. File 3992, pp 114-116."
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WILL OF JOHN CLEAVES TERRY

(He was the step-father of Benjamin King, and natural father of half-siblings mentioned in Benjamin's will, plus seven other children from his first wife, Temperance Conklin. He was also first cousin, once removed, from his second wife Abigail Terry.)

For many of these same people, from perspective of his step-father:

Abstracts of wills, recorded at Riverhead, Suffolk County, New York, Van Buren, Elizabeth R, Liber E, Pg 2, FHL Film 860327.

"John C. Terry, of Riverhead. 8 Mar 1823. Legacies to daughters Polly Conkling, Fanny Mulford, Betsey Warner, Temperance Edwards, Desire Benjamin, Abigail Fanning and her daughter Abigail. Apparel of wife, deceased, to daughters. Residuary estate to son John. Exts: son John, David Warner, John King, Esq, who is called "the son of my wife" Wits: Joshua L. Wells, Eurystheus H. Wells, Karan Moore. Codicil 13 Aug 1823, adds legacies to son Thomas; to grandson Josiah Terry, son of William Terry; and to three granddaughters: Hannah Halliock, Temperance Brown, Betsey Reeve. Wits: Joshua L. Wells, Jesse Reeve, Daniel Aldrich. Pro 11 Sep 1823. pp 19-21."
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I have obtained from a local researcher the following information of graves in a private cemetery from the Ackerly Collection, kept by the Suffolk County Historical Society. (The Ackerly Collection was a private researcher's effort to obtain as much documentation of Long Island history and genealogy as he could.)

BENJAMIN K. PAINE BURYING GROUND

A transcript of Private Ground of Benjamin K. Payne or Paine

-Benjamin King, Esq. d. 9 Apr 1850, ae 70
-Betsey, wife of Benjamin King & daughter of John and Elizabeth Payne d. 31
Aug 1827, ae 42
-Mary, relict of John Pane d. 19 Dec 1815, ae 86
-Moses Pain, d. 20 Oct 1783, ae 23
-John Pane, son of John & Elizabeth, d. 20 Sept 1806, ae 21 [must be twin
bro/o Betsey King]
-John Payne, 12 Oct 1832, ae 76
1832-76 = 1756

If you want to see how various of these people are put together in a family tree, you might look here, starting with Abigail Terry:

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d...

Long Island Genealogy Books on Internet

silverfox3280 — 2013-05-01 21:45:07Z

Remembering that the old books are prone to errors, at the same time, they are often a good starting point. These are the Long Island genealogy books I've found on Google Books. Most are fully accessible - ie downloadable as pdf or ebooks, or just read/search them inside Google books:

History of Mattituck, LI by Craven
The Descendants of Jasper Griffing
Genealogy of the Swasey Family
NYGBR - The Tuthill Family
Paine Family Records
Southold Town Records
The Documentary History of New York
Refugess from LI to Connecticut - Mather
Woodhull Genealogy
Corwin Genealogy by Edward Tanjore Corwin
Southold Connections - Jacobson (Limited access)

Google Books has "pages" for the Jeremiah Vail Genealogy and the William Wells Genealogy, both of which should be in the public domain, but access is limited to none at all. I don't understand why.

If you find more, consider posting them as replies in this thread!

Re: Long Island Genealogies at archive.org and Other Places

silverfox3280 — 2013-05-01 21:34:45Z

The King family of Southold, Suffolk County, New York, 1595-1901. Compiled from public records, family papers and the manuscript King genealogy of Mr. Rufus King of Yonkers, N. Y."

http://archive.org/stream/kingfamilyofsout00aker/kingfamilyo...

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THE BENJAMIN FAMILY IN AMERICA

Compiled by Gloria Wall Bicha and Helen Benjamin Brown

http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/gloria-wall-bicha/the-...

Job Babcock b 1809, Sag Harbor, New York

terrydavis41 — 2013-04-28 20:18:27Z

Smith H. Babcock. In financial circles and among investors generally the name Central Investment Company, Incorporated, is known pretty well all over the country. It has been highly successful in bringing the stable securities of Oklahoma, based on the rapidly rising farm values, to the attention of investors both in and out of the state, and it is now the largest company of its kind in the farm loan business in the state west of Chickasha. Its home offices are on Main Street at the corner of Third Street in Hobart and the present company is the outgrowth of the first business of the kind established at Hobart upwards of fifteen years ago by Smith H. Babcock, who is now president of the Central Investment Company.

Mr. Babcock is an Oklahoma pioneer. Born at Clyde, Wayne County, New York, January 23, 1853, his first twenty years were spent on his father’s farm, and the year 1871 marked his graduation from the Clyde High School. His first independent venture was the purchase of a farm of ninety acres in Wayne County, New York, and he made that the basis of his livelihood and business career until 1883. In 1884, selling his property in New York and coming to the West, he bought a farm of 160 acres in McPherson County, Kansas, and was one of the men who persisted through the many difficulties which beset Kansas agriculture during the ’80s, and eventually profited by his experience. In 1893 he sold his Kansas farm and on September 16, 1893, made the race at the opening of the Cherokee Strip. On that day he rode a hardy cow pony, thoroughly acclimated and accustomed to the plains, and led the run for twelve miles before he decided to stake his claim. His homestead of 160 acres was located a mile and a half northeast of Medford, now the county seat of Grant County. Mr. Babcock pursued his vocation as a farmer on the old homestead claim until 1902, then sold out and removed to Hobart in Kiowa County, where he followed shortly after the pioneer rush into that district. He opened his office as a dealer in farm lands, and was the first in Hobart to take up that line of business. Since then he has organized the Central Investment Company, now incorporated under the state law, and is directing its operations as president.

The Babcock family for several generations lived at Sag Harbor on Long Island, a port which in the nourishing days of the American merchant marine was one of the most important points of outfitting for ships engaged in the whaling industry. Three Babcock brothers named Hedges, Jonathan and Benjamin, had emigrated from England and settled in Sag Harbor just prior to the War of 1812, and all of them subsequently engaged in that war on the side of the United States. The ancestor from whom the Hobart business man is descended was Hedges Babcock. Mr. Babcock’s father was Job Babcock, who was born at Sag Harbor, Long Island, in 1809, and died at Clyde, New York, in 1887. He moved out to Wayne County, New York, in 1851 and lived there quietly as a farmer the rest of his life. Previous to 1851, however, for twenty-two years he had been captain of a whaling vessel that hailed from Sag Harbor. He was not the only member of his family engaged in that industry. He had six brothers, named Benjamin, Hoyl, Henry, Lyman, Jonathan and Hedges, all of whom were captains of whaling vessels that called Sag Harbor their home port. All these veterans of the seas are now deceased. Job Babcock was a republican in politics, a member of the Methodist Episcopal Church and was affiliated with the Independent Order of Odd Fellows. He married Mary Ann Hull, who was born at Hartford, Connecticut, in 1817, and died at Clyde, New York, in 1897. She also had seven brothers and all of them were seafaring men. Smith H. was the older of two sons, and his brother. George is now a farmer at Clyde, New York.

Since casting his first vote Mr. Babcock has been steadily a republican in politics, and while living in New York and in Kansas served on school boards. He is a member of the Methodist Episcopal Church, and in Hobart Lodge No. 176 of the Independent Order of Odd Fellows is past noble grand and was a member of the encampment and canton of that order in Kansas.

At Clyde, New York, in 1872, Mr. Babcock married Miss Cora Gibson, who is a native of Fort Edward, New York, a daughter of D. G. Gibson, who is now living retired at Clyde, New York. Mr. and Mrs. Babcock can take a reasonable degree of pride in their fine family of children, numbering nine in all. Charles, the oldest, was cashier in the bank at Medford, Oklahoma, at the time of his death in 1892; Benjamin, the second son, is a graduate of the Kansas City Veterinary College and is now a veterinary surgeon at Kirksberg, Idaho; Alice is the wife of Mr. Birdsteen of Los Angeles, California; May, also a resident of Los Angeles, married George Sharp, who is cashier for the Southern Pacific Railroad; Ford is vice president of the Central Investment Company of Hobart; Mattie is the wife of Park Siple, cashier for the United States Express Company at Little Rock, Arkansas; Edith is the wife of Temple Kirkpatrick, who is secretary of the Central Investment Company; George lives in Hobart and is in the vulcanizing business; Harold, the youngest, is now a freshman in the Hobart High School.

Obituary Lookup - Elizabeth DeGonzague

jerryleblanc1 — 2013-04-26 15:56:04Z

Hello,

Looking for an obituary for Elizabeth DeGonzague (nee Mekelburg.

I found the following information on the Obituary Daily Times page for Elizabeth:

DeGONZAGUE, Elizabeth S ( ); 71; Stony Brook NY; Newsday;
2000-5-24; rpng

Unfortunately, no luck finding this online.

Regards,
Jerry

Obituary Lookup - Elizabeth DeGonzague

jerryleblanc1 — 2013-04-26 15:55:51Z

Cutchogue Cemeteries on Find-A-Grave

silverfox3280 — 2013-04-22 16:12:00Z

Just happened to notice this and thought I'd drop a note to those who might have an interest.

There are two Cutchogue cemeteries - The OLD one and NEW one.

In Find-A-Grave, they are called, respectively:

Old Burying Ground, Cutchogue, Suffolk, New York
Cutchogue Cemetery, Cutchogue, Suffolk, New York

So, folks looking for the OLD burying ground may have trouble finding it, if they are using the Cemetery Lookup, since Find-A-Grave's Cemetery Lookup only looks up a text string starting with the left most letter.

For my own purposes, just so that I will remember to find them a year from now, below is what I call them in my genealogy database. Note that if I know the town for a village or hamlet or CDP, I put it in the place name. Not that my way is the best way, it's just how I do it.

Cutchogue Cemetery (New), Cutchogue, Southold, Suffolk, New York, USA
Old Cutchogue Burying Ground, Cutchogue, Southold, Suffolk, New York, USA

They are at:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=25...;

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=12...;

There are a number of cemeteries in Suffolk County that are in Find-A-Grave beginning with the word Old:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=csr&CScn=O...

Re: Paul Vicik

kathymclarty2013 — 2013-04-22 00:30:35Z

This is my Great Grandfather and Great Grandmother, Rudolph is my grandfather, Robert is my father.

Re: Obituary Request - Hennessy, Catherine Sept 24, 2011

texastee10 — 2013-04-20 23:14:47Z

Hi, I'm that Tom Hennessy. I've attached a picture of my grandfather as the motorcycle policeman. Please write me directly at texastee10@gmail.com

Re: ECCLESTON from Suffolk NY

sberry8968 — 2013-04-20 16:11:16Z

Florence was adopted by Joseph and Albina Adams. Joseph was Sarah Adams Eccelstons brother .Florence was only a year old. Grace was adopted by the Putnams when she was only 6 months old Mary Putnam was Sarahs sister. Looks like Sarah died right after Grace was born. Sarahs father was George H Adams 1838-1913. Sarah was born in Orient NY and had 6 bothers and sisters according to the 1880 cenus s

Re: Obituary Request - Hennessy, Catherine Sept 24, 2011

bdignazio1 — 2013-04-19 00:07:43Z

Hello; wondering if you are the Tom Hennessey who would be a cousin of my late husband, Jim Nesome. If so, you would have been in touch with my sister-in-law, Marie Newsome Plaskon (Joseph) daughter of Alfred Newsome & Mabel Hennessey of Bayonne, Hudson County, NJ who now lives in Sun City Center, Fl ?
I am Joan Comiskey Newsome & the bdignazio1 name is my daughter's married name (DOB: June 7,1959 & DOD: Nov. 5, 2010)She is the one who started our Trees. If you are he & your grandfather(?) was Dan, the first Hudson County motorcycle policeman, then you are who I'm looking for. I have copies of your Hennessey & some Newsome documents. I'd like to ask you some research questions. Let me know either way, please. What county is Babylon in? Maybe I can help.

Intestate Admin: Phebe (Tuthill) King 1755-1848

silverfox3280 — 2013-04-18 14:02:22Z

Intestate Admin: Phebe (Tuthill) King 1755-1848

Tuthill Line: Tuthill: Phebe-6, Christopher-5, Henry-4,3, John-2, Henry-1

Phebe Tuthill and husband John King had no children.

Surely this Intestate Administration list of heirs can help somebody connected to Long Island! I continued text strings separated by commas into a sentence, but hit enter and started new paragraphs with semi-colons. I double-spaced occasionally to separate longer lists - double spaces are not in the original.

"Phebe King of Orient, town of Southold, 27 May 1848, died 6 Mch last (03/6/1848)

Adms: Kinsmen Noah Tuthill, John B Young
Bond: Henry H Terry, Francis R Young

Heirs:
Brother Nathaniel Tuthill and sister Martha Young

Nieces & Nephews, viz

Wm H, Jasper Y, and Frederick H Tuthill, and Phebe, wife of said Frederick;
Samuel B Tuthill, of Brooklyn;

James D, David D, Peter V, David A, Henry (of New York), David , David (of Elmira, NY), Ezra (of Shelter Island), Pardon Y (of Alton, IL or Mich), Luther M, Martha, wife of Benjamin F, Deziar, wife of Thomas V, Laura, wife of Peter W, Helen F (minor), Luther M, all surnamed Tuthill;

also Lyndes, Calvin M, and Abraham T. King;
Dolly Vail, widow;
Phebe L, wife of Henry Brooks, of Painted Post, Steuben Co, NY;
Caroline, wife of Elisha S Rackett;
Esther (Tuthill), wife of John Beler;
Nancy wife of Wm S Hobart;
Betsey, wife of David T Glover;
Hetty A, wife of Theodore N Brown;
Harriet, wife of Orange Petty;
Lucinda, wife of Asa Smith;
Esther, wife of Josiah Albertson;
Angeline, wife of Samuel Hudson;
Hannah, wife of Thomas L Young;
Phebe, wife of Joseph C Albertson;
Lydia Darling, of Orange County;
Catherine, wife of Rensellaer King;
Fanny, wife of Seth Griffin;
Jane, wife of Wm Clark;
Hannah, wife of Benjamin Cartwright;
Phebe, wife of Benjamin Havens, of Sag Harbor;
Thos Galen Tuthill of Montgomery, Orange Co;
David and Seth Tuthill of Brooklyn;
Henry Tuthill, of New York;
Seth L, Nancy, and Aaron B Tuthill;
Ezra C and Daniel T Terry;
Stewart Terry, of PA;
Franklin, Thomas, and Ezra Terry;
Daniel T and Moses Latham;
Rhoda, wife of --- Lynn, of Plainfield, Conn;
Angeline Aldrich and Nelson Downs, of Riverhead
children of Augustus Fleet and children of Laura dec'd wife of Jacob Hallock;
children of Moses Terry;
David, Moses J, Mary Ann, Maria, George, and Harriet Terry;

including grandchildren and great-grandchildren of brothers and sisters of dec'd. File 3764, p 178"

Elizabeth Van Buren, Suffolk County, NY - Abstracts of Intestate Records at Riverhead, NY (New York, Long Island Genealogy CDs), Liber G.

Re: Stirling / Sterling Cemetery Listing of Burials

silverfox3280 — 2013-04-17 22:31:20Z

I just heard back from the listed transcriber of this listing.

This was an actual inventory of headstones taken in 2002 by a local Eagle Scout troop, of which her son was one. The Scouts inventoried the stones and her son entered the information into a software app (prob a spreadsheet).

So, this could be missing stones that are gone, vandalized, unreadable, etc. And any desired entry should be probably be confirmed by examining the stone or a photo (see find-a-grave for some photos) - as old stones can be very hard to read.

Stirling / Sterling Cemetery Listing of Burials

silverfox3280 — 2013-04-17 17:44:12Z

Hi all:

I was looking all over the internet yesterday for grave listings for Sterling Cemetrey in Greenport and could not find anything other than Find-A-Grave, which I believe to be incomplete. This included looking all through the Longislandgnealogy.com home page. No luck.

Today, I accidentally found one on the longislandgenealogy.com site. It doesn't list the source and the date (ie an inventory or list from a burial register or whatever), but it does appear to be somewhat complete through some date. I post it here in case others have a similar problem in finding it as I did yesterday; as I still don't know how to drill down to it from the longislandgenealogy.com home page.

Thanks to Kathleen Richter for apparently typing the whole thing.

http://longislandgenealogy.com/StirlingCemetery/AStirling.ht...

Re: Evolution of Religion on Long Island 1640-1800

silverfox3280 — 2013-04-17 15:23:56Z

Here is more on the History of the Churches of Long Island:

http://longislandgenealogy.com/Presbyterian.pdf

Interesting tidbits:

The Great Awakening and its impact
Couple barred from Presbyterian church, when man married deceased wife's sister.
More there....

Wrights of Suffolk County

juliamayotte1 — 2013-04-11 16:54:44Z

I am looking for any information on Elias Wright married to Mary Brown on 23 May, 1737. Is Mary the daughter of John Brown and Anna Van Oorden? Any help would be most appreciated.

juliamayotte@rogers.com

Re: Frank Evanhoe

GOFFINC — 2013-04-11 01:02:11Z

According to his obituary in 1940, Frank N. Evanhoe married Jessie Estelle Orr of Manhattan in 1892 at Chicago during the Eolummbia Exposition there. They celebrated their 45th wedding anniversary in 1937 at on Long Island.

When Frank died January 20, 1940. He was survived by his wife, his half brother Bernard Baker (my great grandfather), four grandchildren, Frank N. Evanhoe III of Fresno, California, and Carl, Mildredm an dBeverlay Evanhoe of Stockton, California, a great-grandchild John Robert Evanhoe of Fresno. He was burried in Greenfild Cemetary and th Presbyterian Minister officiated.

Re: ECCLESTON from Suffolk NY

jeabrietta — 2013-04-07 06:32:39Z

Was Florence adopted by the Adams family related to Sarah
If so want info do you have on the Adams Family?
I heard Sarah was related to the Adams Family of Wrigly gum

Re: ECCLESTON from Suffolk NY

jeabrietta — 2013-04-07 06:15:27Z

Grace was adopted by the Putnam's
All the info on replies is excellent. we can go on and on with family history who married who, children it wonderful to located past family history..

Captain Bill (William Dewhurst) was a busy man
I know my grandfather lewis (Sarah's son) kept in touch with
many of his brothers and sisters
My question why did he put 5 children out for adoption re-marry and have more kids?

Islip Central Hospital

jacksonD94 — 2013-04-06 17:07:01Z

I have been reading with interest the thread on Islip Cemetery and Death Records.

A Gt Aunt of mine was a patient in the facility but the authorities will not confirm or deny she was there so I have had difficulty finding her death.

I was wondering whether anyone knows what the procedure was for having someone admitted in those days. I understand there could be many reasons not necessarily depression or the like and it would be interesting to know who actually approached the hospital for their admittance.

Doreen

Re: Obit Help Please

historymom16 — 2013-04-01 13:59:15Z

Hi. I don't remember the name of the funeral parlor and there is nothing on the death card either.
Thanks.

need death record info Smithtown - name inside

lorrainejhawkins — 2013-03-31 02:23:45Z

I am looking for a death record circa 1900-1910, for a woman that lived in Smithtown. Her name was Fidella or Fidelia or Della or Delia Peirce or Pierce. She is last listed on the U.S. census for 1900, and died between 1900 and 1910. She was born around 1842 and was a widow.

I just need the information from the death record.

Lorraine Hawkins

help with an obit Please

GGreen523 — 2013-03-30 21:57:42Z

would like to have an obit on Elizabeth Chandler- died 1995, she lived in Mount Sinai at the Chandler estate, also owned a home in NYC. her late husband was Ernest, and one son Fred. thanks

Re: George H. Clark of East Marion

william_wise71 — 2013-03-28 13:47:44Z

I have been compiling a lengthy history of the menhaden ("mossbunker", "bunker") fishery on Long Island. George H. Clark and several others from East Marion built a small menhaden pot works (cooking/pressing the fish for oil and scrap/fertilizer) at Shelter Island's Ram Island Beach in the late 1850's. In the early 1860's, Clark moved these works to the north side of the Island, between Dering Harbor and Hay Beach Point. Clark sold his factory on Shelter Island in 1869.

There is a gap of nearly a decade and then George resurfaces, purchasing a menhaden pot works in East Marion, on the shoreline near Marion Lake. He operates these works from 1878 - 1881. In 1880, Clark and William D. Potter had built a menhaden factory in Virginia, on Dividing Creek, on the west side of Chesapeake Bay between the mouths of the Potomac and, to the south, Rappahannock Rivers. This is in Northumberland County (Northern Neck), where many of the Chesapeake Bay menhaden plants were located. The town of Wicomico is just a short distance away.

After the 1881 fishing season, George Clark began to spend his summers at the factory in Virginia, returning to East Marion for the winter.

Could not trace anything further of George H. Clark past the early 1880's.

Hope this helps.

Bill Wise, Associate Director
School of Marine & Atmospheric Sciences
Stony Brook University (NY)

Re: Is There a Centerville, Long Island, NY?

KTeigue — 2013-03-26 01:21:22Z

There is a Centerville which is part of the town of Riverhead and the Riverhead post office caters to the area (as it is the same zipcode). It was likely a town that became included as part of Riverhead when it was established. The Riverhead and Riverhead Post Office wikipedias both mention Centerville and as Abequogue and Riverhead border each other this is likely what you are searching for. Riverhead is the centeral point of North and South long Island (where the "fish tails" meet)!

Re: Gov Tryon Census-Oath of Allegiance of Southold, NY - 1778

KTeigue — 2013-03-26 01:05:09Z

I too am interested having family ancestors from Southold and Islip (bayshore) particularly Wilsons

Re: Why Did So Many Suffolk Families Migrate to Orange?

KTeigue — 2013-03-26 01:00:38Z

I know from a Long Island history class many Eastern Long Islanders were loyalist and were driven from long Island around the time of the war. There had been issues with confiscating of belongings. Don't know if this relates but as you probably already know Eastern Long Island was mainly English protestant Calvinist farmers as opposed to NYC dutch remnants and merchant traders. South Hampton, Southold and Greenport having been settled by way of Connecticut via Massachusetts Bay. Looking for my Wilson-Gardiner connection, Greenport and Bayshore/Pentaquit

Re: Trying to find burial site.

jbinthai1 — 2013-03-25 13:20:48Z

Can you give me a little bit more information. I amy haves some tings for you that I came across doing my research of the Dennis family in Bay Shore.

Re: Obit Help Please

geogirl1950 — 2013-03-20 08:48:24Z

Why not contact the funeral parlor and ask what cemetery she was taken too? Good luck on your journey.

Re: Patient Records from Central Islip State Hosp

crumbcake13 — 2013-02-28 20:50:23Z

I was able to get a brand new book for like 7.00 from the Kings Park Hospital. They sold all those books for a donation. I don't have the info but they used to have a website and I'm not sure if it's still up and running but I know you can call them. The book is very interesting.

Re: Patient Records from Central Islip State Hosp

sorced — 2013-02-28 19:49:03Z

I would check your Public Library or call or go to Patchoge Medford Library 631-654-4700, ask for Toni Raptis X 231 to ask if they carry the book.
Dolores

Re: Patient Records from Central Islip State Hosp

052092 — 2013-02-28 07:07:04Z

I was finally able to get something after sending documentation evidencing my relationship to the patent (great grandmother) and a letter from my doctor saying it was medically relevant. I only got the very basic information- dates of admittance and discharge and diagnosis. They told me the specific records don't exist.

I'd love to know more. I only discovered my great grandmother was at Islip because I found her name in the 1910 census. (She was a patent from Dec 1909-Aug 1910.) Does anyone know where to get a copy of Polaski's book "Farm Colonies"? I only found it on Amazon for $100!

Re: CHOWS aka Smithtown General Hospital

paulmansfield829 — 2013-02-27 20:58:45Z

Thanks Nancy

I know about those images.

I'm looking for a photo of the building itself - the oustside,
But thanks for trying.

Re: CHOWS aka Smithtown General Hospital

witz1 — 2013-02-27 14:31:55Z

CHOWS aka Smithtown General Hospital

http://lioddities.com/Abandoned/Smithtown.html

Re: Lockel's in Lindenhurst, Suffolk, N.Y.

kshart99 — 2013-02-27 04:23:19Z

Thanks for your reply and for the information! I'll keep investigating and see if I can connect.

Re: Lockel's in Lindenhurst, Suffolk, N.Y.

kshart99 — 2013-02-27 04:21:13Z

Thank you SO much for all of that information! As far as I know, our George was married to "Marie," so I'm not sure if this is the same George, but I'll look into everything, and I really appreciate you helping out. Thanks!

Re: Lockel's in Lindenhurst, Suffolk, N.Y.

doodeeann — 2013-02-26 02:03:07Z

THAT'S a lot ...AND some of these names are in the Suffolk County, NY newspapers you have a link to. I saw George, Albert, Pauline and their spouses. Albert had a son who died as a child - 9,10, 11 years old.

Re: Lockel's in Lindenhurst, Suffolk, N.Y.

witz1 — 2013-02-26 01:57:10Z

George Paul Lockel March 3 1915 - Nov 4 1980 san Diego Ca.
Pauline Gladle Sept 15 1917 Ogdensburg NY- Jan 4 2001 Fulton,Oswego.NY (OBIT ON ANCESTRY)

George's father was August Alfred Lockel Feb 21 1892/1894 - 1956
George's mother was Bertha Grandjot(spelling different from census) Sept 1892 - 1944
married Feb 10 1913 in Manhattan NY (cert.# 4113)

August's father was Albert C.H. March 1865 - 1944
August's mother was Emilie L.C. Umnus Nov 1871 - 1949
married June 4 1893 Brooklyn NY (cert.# 2308)

Bertha's father was Louis Grandjot Oct 1861 germany - Nov 15 1903 in Manhattan (death cert.# 32656)
Bertha's mother was Mary (maiden name unknown) Feb 1863 Germany..Mary remarried May 18 1911 in Manhattan (cert.#1151) to a Peter Bryan born abt 1873 in England

Now the August Bertha Albert and Emilie are buried in Breslau Cemetery here in Lindenhurst(you can find them on find a grave...as for George's wife Pauline and her family are alos on find a grave in St.Lawrence County,NY

Pauline's father was Myron Henry Gladle Sept 28 1888 - July 22 1968
Pauline's mother was Grace McIntyre March 21 1899- Nov 4 1986

on Ancestry there is a whole lot of family trees you can get more information on them

Hope it helps Good Luck
Nancy

Re: Lockel's in Lindenhurst, Suffolk, N.Y.

kshart99 — 2013-02-25 19:10:56Z

Thanks so much for the tip! I'll try that!

Re: Lockel's in Lindenhurst, Suffolk, N.Y.

doodeeann — 2013-02-25 16:10:45Z

Hi, if you use this link to the Suffolk County, NY, newspapers, and do advance searches on your names, you may find some new names. Some of these may be uncles or cousins, if not a direct relative. Just change the date ranges and paper options for new things.
http://apa3.olivesoftware.com/Default/Skins/Suffolk/Client.a...

CHOWS aka Smithtown General Hospital

paulmansfield829 — 2013-02-24 20:43:01Z

It closed in 1999 & was torn down in 2007. I can't find a photo of it.
Would anyone happen to have one ? Or a link to one ?

Thanks

Lockel's in Lindenhurst, Suffolk, N.Y.

kshart99 — 2013-02-24 16:30:52Z

Hello! My (X)sister in law, PAULA MARIE LOCKEL was born 17 Apr 1948 in Lindenhurst, Suffolk, N.Y. Her parents were George LOCKEL and Marie. I'm interested in finding out more about her parents and their family lines. If you have any information, please email me at kshart99@hotmail.com thank you!!

Re: Robert F. Hopper- Center Moriches policeman

doodeeann — 2013-02-20 22:25:30Z

Have you ever searched the Suffolk County newspapers for his name? Here is a link that gets you into a search; you just have to find the right Robert Hopper for you.
http://apa3.olivesoftware.com/Default/Skins/Suffolk/Client.a...

Just type in his name (no middle initial, it brings too many other things up), adjust periodicals and dates or search "all" which takes longer. There are a few articles on his man.

Re: Robert F. Hopper- Center Moriches policeman

basieracki — 2013-02-19 23:52:51Z

Nancy, I just found your note to me and I never received any message from you other than this one. My email address is basred114@gmail.com

would appreciate your help with any information.

The Case of Two John Robinson's of NYC/Oyster Bay 1660's

astarte00 — 2013-02-16 19:46:59Z

Questions raised regarding two John Robinson's of NYC and of Oyster Bay

I have some definite questions and doubts relating to many so called "documented" proof or histories relating to these two individuals and I wonder if items relating to one have been merged into the history of the other. I feel that over the years others have assumed the documented proof and continued to names, dates, marriages and events from one to the other. There seems to be a enough similarity between the two to make the events plausible.

Both John's were very wealthy and involved in many land transactions and were in possession of large tracts of land in New York. They were granted land patents. Both John's seem to have the same names of families associated with them. Both John's seem to have been involved with the politics of the time.

e.g. In the document relating the history of John of Oyster Bay it states he purchased a Ketch in 1682. Although it is also documented that John of NYC purchased the ketch “Bonito” alias “Ruth” at public auction 6 January 1682. Were these facts reported as being associated with the incorrect John?

John of NYC was owned a farm on the Saw-Kill in 1664 and appointed as Alderman in 1683 and subsequently Justice of the Peace in NYC. He lived within the City during this time period

Whereas John of Oyster Bay was involved in the politics of Queens County as a representative. There also seems to be a lack of information regarding John of Oyster Bay during the period in which John of NYC held political offices in NYC.

John of Oyster Bay was reportedly married to Jane Jeake. I have yet to find records attesting to this. Is it possible that reference to this name has repeatedly been copied from one person to another on family trees? The name "Janke" is dutch for Johannes which some report as John of Oyster Bay's Grandfather's name. Can Jane's name be attributed to transcription errors, a combination of an anglicized name with a correct name?

John of NYC is documented as having at least two wives, Grietje Hendricks which he married on 4 October 1678 in New Amsterdam. A second wife Margaret is mentioned in relation to the land patent in New Jersey in 1683. If Grietje Hendricks and John Robinson had issue (surname Robinson): of Maria, baptized 18 July 1683 and Grietje, baptized 12 October 1684 how was he married to Margaret at the time of the land patent transaction on 24 April 1682? So who was Margaret or were they one and the same and the Grietje was then using Margaret as a anglicized name?

It is recorded that John of NYC on 26 April 1681, recorded the sale of various goods to Mr. John Throop of New York that was delivered to him on the sloop “Endeavor.” This same sale of rum and a butt of sherry were reported as having been associated with John of Oyster Bay.

Both John's ultimately had ties to land in New Jersey. A great number of John of Oyster Bay's family eventually migrated to the very lands of which were owned by patent by John of NYC. This is too much of a coincidence to ignore.

There has been no will found on either of these two John's to determine their true identities. In at least the case of John of NYC there seems to have been a connection with the Dutch and the Netherlands whereas in the case of John of Oyster Bay there seems to be a convoluted attempt to connect him to Rev John Robinson Pastor to the Pilgrims although the marital connections between the Davis, Horton, Hallock, and Mather families to make this possible. John of Oyster Bay's descendants appear to have much more of a religious affiliation I do not see that in the limited history of either John's themselves.

It has been assumed that Isaac Robinson is the ONLY direct descendant of the Rev John Robinson to touch the soil on this side of the Atlantic and that all descendants of Rev John within America should end with him. Neither John's fit the timeline. A possibility of relations perhaps but where?

Thomas Robinson son of John of Oyster Bay was awarded Land, buildings and Negroes in Port Royal Jamaica. In consideration that Port Royal was a well documented Slave Market coupled with reported sales of rum and sherry, and masked reports of stolen goods (no detail as to exact items) it makes you ponder on the true nature of John of Oyster Bay as it could be related to legends of privateers and pirates along the North Shore. This is a stark contrast to the likes of the Reverends and Deacons that followed that line.

There are many unanswered question - namely for both is where did they originate from. Many purported writings documenting their histories were written prior to the digitizing of historical documents and easy retrieval via the internet.

So what is the REAL story here?

Re: Why Did So Many Suffolk Families Migrate to Orange?

seekerJay — 2013-02-11 05:56:51Z

I recently attended a presentation that was given by the Orange County Historian, Cornelia Bush. She gave several reasons for the migration of this group of people from Southold to Orange County.

1. The desire to spread their Calvinist-inspired gospel among the Indians. This was a group of austere Protestants that can be traced back through time to the Massachusetts Bay and before that, ultimately, to members of the congregation of St Edmund's Church, Southwold, Suffolk, England. According to Wikipedia, "Southwold was the home of a number of Puritan emigrants to the Massachusetts Bay Colony in the 1630s, notably a party of 18 assembled under Rev. Young, which travelled in the Mary Ann in 1637." Those followers of Rev. Young/Yonge are our ancestors who stayed together for over 150 years from Southwold to Massachusetts Bay Colony to Southold LI, in the Province of New Haven, to Orange County. It's quite amazing.

2. There was a drought on Long Island from about 1750 to 1752.

3. The large patents in Orange County were re-drawn in the last half of the 18th century into much smaller lots that many average persons could afford.

This group of Calvinists belonged primarily to the Protestant and Congregational Churches, frequently treating them as interchangeable.

The group began scattering from Long Island during the Revolutionary War. Most fled to Connecticut for the duration (see "The refugees of 1776 from Long Island to Connecticut" on Archives.org http://archive.org/details/refugeesof1776fr00mathuoft ). Some stayed in Connecticut after the War, some returned to Southold, some migrated to Orange County, and for the Loyalists amongst them, they went to Nova Scotia.

Re: Walter Brocking married Catherine Blanchard b Idaho to Woodside Long Island, NY

jennabrocking — 2013-02-10 16:19:13Z

Hello Annie,

My name is Jenna Brocking. My father's name is Sean Brocking, and Walter and Catherine are his parents. My uncle who the latter post mentions is Doug Brocking.

I am extremely interested to find out about my family's history, and would love to know what research you have done.

If you could e-mail me; jennabrocking@gmail.com

Thank you!

Kendrick of Suffolk County,N Y

ROSAJR — 2013-02-06 18:39:10Z

I am looking to make contact with Willie Mae Kendrick, whose grandmother was also Willie Mae Walker Kendrick and lived in Pike County Georgia.
I lived in Pike County and remembered the grandmother because she later married my Uncle Willie Chunn.
Willie Mae Kendrick would visit her grandmother in the summer. I am not sure if Suffolk county is the birth place and home of the granddaughter or her married name
Any information would be appreciated.
Rosa

Re: Anthony Leslie (formerly Antoni Liszewski)

crdy195798 — 2013-01-30 04:07:38Z

Hi. My name is chris heitert king. my ex-husband(whom im back with)name is Paul Heitert. His mom was Sophie(leslie)Heitert. Her parents were Julian/Frances Liszewski. Her siblings were: frank,tony,bobby and genevieve. Im doing some surprise geneology for Paul,but stuck on a few things. Do you know when they changed their last name? Do you know if julian and frances had siblings and if so, names etc...also if you know julians parents names etc....really, any information you could provide would be great!! THANKS in advance. :)