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Re: lookup:city of birth/death caroline kyle 1885-1914

mjancestor2  (View posts) Posted: 27 Apr 2007 6:21PM GMT
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1900 United States Federal Census
about Caroline Dunn
Name: Caroline Dunn
Home in 1900: Cleveland Ward 39, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Birthplace: Ohio
Relationship to head-of-house: Daughter
Father's name: Samuel
Mother's name: Minnie
Race: White
Occupation: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Dunn 54 b. Apr 1846, married 23 years, b. England, parents b. England, immigration 1870, horseshoer, owns home free (no mortgage)
Minnie Dunn 43 b. Feb 1857, birth to 5:4 living, b. OH, parents b. England
Ada Dunn (index says 31, should be 21) b. Oct 1879, laborer - wholesale drug store
Jennie Dunn 17 b. July 1882 laborer - telephone
Caroline Dunn 15 b. Dec 1884
William Dunn 13 b. May 1887
all children listed as b. OH
address: 156 Seymour Ave
(so they moved or city re-numbered between census & marriage, or she didn't live with parents)
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Note: index says RYLE, but looks like KYLE
1910 United States Federal Census
about Caroline Ryle
Name: Caroline Ryle
[Caroline Kyle]
Age in 1910: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Birthplace: Ohio
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: Ohio
Spouse's name: W J
Home in 1910: Spokane Ward 5, Spokane, Washington
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
W J Ryle 26 married 3 years, b. Scotland, carpenter-Electrician
Caroline Ryle 25 birth to 2:2 living, b. OH,
Howard Ryle 2 , b. OH
Norma Ryle 6/12, b. WA

Pennsylvania St.

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1920 United States Federal Census
about William J Kyle
Name: William J Kyle
Home in 1920: Dracut, Middlesex, Massachusetts
Age: 34 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Birthplace: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Ethel E
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1888
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 97
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Household Members: Name Age
William J Kyle 34 immigration 1888, naturalized 1907, laborer in cotton mill
Ethel E Kyle 30 b. MA
Howard J Kyle 12 b. OH
Norma M Kyle 10 b. WA
William R Kyle 8 b. WA
Mildred D Kyle (index says 36 - should be 3-6/12)b MA
All children list father b. Scotland, mother MA, but depends on how family was viewed. Ethel is not the Caroline of WA.

Here is the 1910 family - but with a different wife for William.....
My guess would be that Howard, Norma and William are Caroline's children, then he married Ethel & had Mildred????

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1930 United States Federal Census
about William Kyle
Name: William Kyle
Home in 1930: Quincy, Norfolk, Massachusetts
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Birthplace: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Ethel E
Race: White
Household Members: Name Age
William Kyle 45 married age 30, proprietor of elevator company
Ethel E Kyle 39 married age 24
William R Kyle 18
Mildred D Kyle 13
Leonard L Kyle 9
Bertha L Kyle 7

350 South Street
NOTE: age at marriage lends to William & Ethel marrying about 1915 or so. This would fit well with a first child to the couple born about 1917 (Mildred).

All children listed with father b. Scotland & mother b. MA.
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World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about William James Kyle
Name: William James Kyle
City: Malden
County: Middlesex
State: Massachusetts
Birth Date: 22 Jun 1884
Race: White
Roll: 1674359
DraftBoard: 2

Next of kin - Ethel Kyle
med ht & build, blue eyes, light hair
card has no date - either 1917 or 1918 BUT previous card is dated June 1917
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U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
about William R Kyle
Name: William R Kyle
Birth Year: 1911
Nativity State or Country: Washington
State: Massachusetts
County or City: Norfolk

Enlistment Date: 23 Sep 1942
Enlistment State: Massachusetts
Enlistment City: Boston
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life

Education: 2 years of high school
Civil Occupation: Tracktor Driver* or Truck Driver, Heavy or Chauffeur or Truck Driver, Light An asterisk (*) appearing after a job title indicates that a trade test for the particular occupation will be found in the United States Employment Service Manual, Oral Trade Test
Marital Status: Single, without dependents
Height: 65
Weight: 131

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Not sure if right man, but age fits....
U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
about Howard Kyle
Name: Howard Kyle
Birth Year: 1908
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: West Virginia
State: West Virginia
County or City: Harrison

Enlistment Date: 12 Mar 1942
Enlistment State: Ohio
Enlistment City: Fort Hayes Columbus
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life

Education: Grammar school
Marital Status: Married
Height: 66
Weight: 154

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1930 United States Federal Census
about Howard Kyle
Name: Howard Kyle
Home in 1930: Lynn, Essex, Massachusetts
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1908
Birthplace: Ohio
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Race: White

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William R????
Washington Births, 1907-1919
about Unnamed Kyle
Name: Unnamed Kyle
Birth Date: 13 Oct 1911
LOCATION: Spokane City
Sex: Male
Race: White
Father's name: William James Kyle
Mother's name: Caroline Dunn
Image Filename: 3358

Norma???
Washington Births, 1907-1919
about Unnamed Kyle
Name: Unnamed Kyle
Birth Date: 18 Oct 1909
LOCATION: Spokane City
Sex: Female
Race: White
Father's name: William James Kyle
Mother's name: Caroline Dann
Image Filename: 0424

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Massachusetts Death Index, 1970-2003
about William R Kyle
Name: William R Kyle
Certificate: 032472
Death Place: Quincy
Death Date: 29 Jun 1983
Birth Place: Washington
Birth Date: 13 Nov 1911

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Cuyahoga County Records
This fits the street Caroline was on - and also change of address.
AFN: 190705110024 Type: DEED - Deed
Date Recorded: 05/11/1907 Number of Pages: 2
Book: 1088 Page: 139 Amount: $0.00

Grantor

Type Last First M. Detail
R DUNN SAMUEL W

Grantee
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Type Last First M. Detail
E JUERGENS GEORGE
E JUERGENS ANNA

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Category Value
Street Name : SEYMOUR

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AFN: 190509260012 Type: DEED - Deed
Date Recorded: 09/26/1905 Number of Pages: 2
Book: 981 Page: 493 Amount: $0.00

Grantor
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Type Last First M. Detail
R DUNN SAMUEL W

Grantee
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Type Last First M. Detail
E TEEPLE L VICTOR

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Category Value
Street Name : STATE VIEW

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AFN: 190408190024 Type: DEED - Deed
Date Recorded: 08/19/1904 Number of Pages: 2
Book: 935 Page: 380 Amount: $0.00

Grantor
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Type Last First M. Detail
R DUNN SAMUEL

Grantee
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Type Last First M. Detail
E BURRELL J W

Category Value
Street Name : SEYMOUR

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Possibility???? but doesn't fit middle initial W in deeds above???
#: 0085240
Name: Dunn, Samuel P.
Date: Oct 24 1934
Source: Cemetery record; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #022.
Notes: Dunn: Samuel P., aged 90 years, father of Mrs. W. J. Hilands, late residence, 2209 Payne Ave., Oct. 22. Remains at Young's Funeral Home, 8806 Euclid Ave., where services will be held Thursday, Oct. 25, at 2 p. m. 1844 - 1934. Lakeview Cemetery Cleveland, Ohio.

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I'd look for a death record for Caroline Dunn Kyle in Spokane - after area, 13 Oct 1911 and later, but before 1917. My guess is she died 1911-1913 (or there might have been another child about 1913??? Perhaps childbirth, perhaps the polio epidemic?

By 1917, WIlliam is in MA - and remarried, so he had to either move & find a wife, and marry or move with Caroline and she dies, then find a wife & marry. My guess - only a guess - is that she died & then he moved. But - if you don't find her in Spokane area, look in the MA area that William settles in (Middlesex). In any case - it looks like Caroline & William were out of OH by 1909.

Look for their children's info - perhaps a child's obit states something like ... after mother died when they were ___ years old.....

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So, it seems she was born Dec 1884, had at least 3 children - 1 in OH (Howard 1908), and 2 (Norma 1909 & William 1911)in WA.

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Good Luck!
SubjectAuthorDate Posted
mensa73 24 Apr 2007 9:36PM GMT 
SUE92846 25 Apr 2007 7:45AM GMT 
mensa73 25 Apr 2007 8:17PM GMT 
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mensa73 27 Apr 2007 6:17PM GMT 
mjancestor2 27 Apr 2007 6:21PM GMT 
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