Please help if you have information. (1) John Butcher (Boucher) and wife Hannah. He died and left will 1707 Phila. PA. Names children John Butcher (eldest son); Samuel; Mary (Eldest daughter); Sarah. Neither of the girls were yet 18, nor the sons yet 21 when he died - meaning they all were born between 1686-1706! (2) Samuel Butcher b.? d. ca. 1778 Loudoun Co. VA - his will refers his wife Susannah back to JOHN BUTCHER SR. OF PA and a bond from SAMUEL BUTCHER JR. IN PA - obviously referring back to the descendants of John Butcher (1).

Samuel (2) has seven children - but only identifies six - Samuel, John, Hannah, Alice (Elsie), Jane and Elizabeth!

Samuel (2) has been identified on the net as being married to two different women (A) Susannah Marple and married 1736 and (B) Susannah Lewis date unknown.

The children listed to Samuel (2) were all born in the 1750's and 1760! Hardly the offspring of Susannah Marple - no woman delays childbirth 20 years.

We know that John Butcher d. 1707/Hannah had two sons: John and Samuel. Has anyone constructed the families of these two men?

It is possible the Samuel that married Susannah Marple in 1736 is the son of John (who became John Sr. after his father's death 1707) listed as Samuel Jr. on the 1778 will. (The Samuel we find in Loudoun Co. VA who and become the father of Samuel b. 28 Mar 1756 in Loudoun Co. VA who married Hannah Drake etc. and the other six children listed in 1778. would have been unmarried for many years to suddenly have children in the 1750's!)

Or - was Samuel who died in Loudoun Co. VA married twice both times to a Susannah - and had two families - or is there another generation of John/Samuel's we have all missed!

These dates don't work very well!!! I would really appreciate any assistance I can in getting my ancestral family somewhat straight! Thank you. Rose Mary S. Rudy