GAYNELL, I AM CONNY HALE BROTHER TO WILLIE (PETE) HALE. HE PUT UP SOME PIC. OF RAINWATER RAMSEY BACK IN 2002. PETE IS NO LONGER ON THE WEB. I CAME ACROSS YOUR POST, THOUGH I WOULD RESPOND. I KNEW YOUR DAD DEMPSY, KNEW OF YOU GRANDFATHER NELS AND YOUR G.G.GRANDFATHER ELBERT (BIRD) . MY GRANDMOTHER LYDIA AND ELBERT WERE SIBLINGS. HOPE THIS POST GOES THROUGH, SO AS TO TALK AGAIN WITH YOU.