I saw your message when it was gatewayed to the Floyd Co. VA list. Don't know if this will help you in any way, but there are a number of ELLISORs down in our part of the country (NW Florida Panhandle.) If you need more info, e-mail me and I can direct you to one Ellisor that I know. They are no kin to me, but the name struck me because I haven't seen it anywhere but down here. Hope that helps.