Thank you, Richard. I sorta thought so, but with no results from all the groups I belong to, finding MY Chism has gotten to be a wild ride. Ancestry is insisting Praytor goes in there somewhere, which would connect to Blind John, but I cannot Find the connection. I Know it goes back to a William from Ireland, & David, Ire., to CT. From Ire to here is ???. What fun this puzzle ! I also know much family was scattered TN., VA., NC., KY., AND back to Tuscaloosa.HMmmmmm.Gotta get that book " The Chiz" & see if it helps, when I can afford it. TY again.